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IRC Log for 2009-02-13

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[00:27:57] <koen> jkridner is busy :)
[00:33:27] <ds2> that or his passwords been compromised ;)
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[00:37:31] <koen> ah, so that's why it's called OPENid :)
[00:38:09] <ds2> koen: any progress on the 3D digitizer now that you have a stable camera?
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[00:49:54] <koen> ds2: haven't looked at that
[00:50:12] <koen> ds2: I was planning to ask you if you version could output ogre3d meshes :)
[00:50:25] <koen> since ogre3d seems to play pretty nice with the SGX libs
[00:50:49] <ds2> koen: the answer is no unless you want to write it ;) I am only spitting out point clouds (X/Y/Z) but I am in the middle of a rewrite
[00:51:30] <ds2> the number of setup parameters I am using right now is making it unweildy for the takedown/setup I am doing :(
[00:54:32] <koen> it seems ogre meshes are xml and can be compiled to binary
[00:56:31] <ds2> problem I had before I decided to rewrite is getting things into a mesh
[00:58:12] <ds2> it might be post ESC before I can get back to it :/
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[01:03:04] <koen> heh
[01:03:05] <koen> http://torvalds-family.blogspot.com/2009/02/25-things-about-me.html
[01:03:59] <Crofton|work> thats been going around facebook
[01:05:36] <Gareth> jkridner: ping
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[01:13:40] <koen> ds2: did you try Delaunay on your point cloud?
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[01:15:41] <koen> ds2: e.g. http://www.qhull.org/
[01:18:51] <ds2> nope, I used "standard" cad stuff
[01:19:20] <ds2> tried Rhino and one other free package
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[02:39:11] <jkridner> Gareth: pong
[02:41:06] <jkridner> hi vu3rdd.
[02:41:27] <vu3rdd> Hi Jason
[02:41:43] <vu3rdd> here is how my CCSv4 setup is looking like
[02:43:48] <vu3rdd> at the top level it is TMS320C6747_0
[02:44:04] <vu3rdd> followed up ICEPICK_C_0
[02:44:20] <vu3rdd> followed by a subpath with port number 17
[02:44:35] <vu3rdd> followed by C64XP
[02:44:39] <vu3rdd> that's it
[02:44:52] <jkridner> are you sure it accepts decimal?
[02:45:03] <vu3rdd> I tried hex too
[02:45:24] <jkridner> which driver did you get for C64XP?
[02:45:26] <vu3rdd> btw, what are you running to bring DSP out of reset? are you running something in arm, which waits after CE init?
[02:46:25] <jkridner> I actually use a GEL script that I run on the ARM. :(
[02:46:27] <vu3rdd> it doesn't show any driver explicitly in CCSv4
[02:46:45] <jkridner> the XDS100 doesn't support have ARM drivers currently.
[02:46:52] <vu3rdd> oh..ok
[02:47:21] <jkridner> I have only tested the XDS100 on DM6446.
[02:47:28] <jkridner> I have been working on other bits and haven't had a chance to run this myself yet.
[02:47:29] <vu3rdd> I guess I may have prblem at that point.. becase I just run a test application. It does a video_copy for 5 frames and come out
[02:48:19] <jkridner> as long as it leaves the DSP out of reset, you should be able to initiate a scan.
[02:48:20] <vu3rdd> as per the xml file it is drivers\tixds100c674x.xml
[02:49:31] <vu3rdd> I am wondering, perhaps once a rogram is finished, it may perhaps leave DSP back in reset.. or does it execute a halt? otherwise, dsp may just corrupt the memory if left free running
[02:50:09] <vu3rdd> I guess I may need to modify one of the example programs and rebuilt it, with a wait after CE init call perhaps..
[02:50:44] <vu3rdd> http://wiki.davincidsp.com/index.php?title=Debugging_the_DSP_side_of_a_CE_application_on_DaVinci_using_CCS
[02:50:49] <jkridner> are you available tomorrow @ 4PM central?
[02:51:52] <vu3rdd> let me find what is 4 PM central in India
[02:51:58] <jkridner> ouch.
[02:52:08] <jkridner> it is not good.
[02:52:25] <jkridner> you are up rather early right now!
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[02:53:45] <vu3rdd> I guess it is a bit too earl - 3.30 AM
[02:53:50] <jkridner> I can try it out without you. I just need to block some time on my calendar to give it a shot. If you can write-up what you've done so far to pull the DSP out of reset, then I can look at the XDS100 steps from there.
[02:54:05] <vu3rdd> ok
[02:54:57] <vu3rdd> I will send you a write up.. Just need to look up the paths of the executables I ran on the board and send it to you
[02:55:20] <leslie> I found that if I install ccache, the build will always fail, but on manual it recommend to install ccache, do you guys use ccache?
[02:55:25] <vu3rdd> I will come online as early as I can
[02:56:11] <vu3rdd> meanwhile I will also try modifying one of the apps and ask it to wait as per the wiki page
[02:57:05] <vu3rdd> the problem is.. my available time to play with it has shrunk.. owing to long working hours..
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[03:05:25] <n6pfk> Hi does "loadb", "go" work in u-boot?
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[03:07:21] * jkridner wants http://www.heise-online.co.uk/open/Miro-2-0-released--/news/112618 for Beagle. :)
[03:07:33] <jkridner> n6pfk: used to. not sure why it wouldn't anymore.
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[03:07:44] <santoshpattar> Hi All
[03:07:47] <jkridner> I noticed that TeraTerm had problems with loadb.
[03:08:03] <jkridner> but, Hyperterm and minicom had no problems.
[03:08:29] <santoshpattar> jkridner: I have a question. How is the BB kernel derived? From which base line and which rlease
[03:08:55] <n6pfk> I do a loadb 0x8030000, and send hello_world.bin, followed by a go 0x8030000 and u-boot hangs.
[03:09:09] <jkridner> there is no "the BB kernel". to use the BB, you'll likely want to derive a kernel from the linux-omap git tree.
[03:09:36] <jkridner> santoshpattar: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/tmlind/linux-omap-2.6.git;a=summary
[03:09:52] <santoshpattar> yesterday i got the GIT OMAP kernel and tried applying the BB patches but i couldnt .. i got only HUNKS
[03:09:54] <jkridner> different distributions choose different starting points and different patches.
[03:10:13] <jkridner> what are "HUNKS"?
[03:10:15] <santoshpattar> which version of OMAP kernel should i take from GIT.. Please suggest
[03:10:38] <santoshpattar> when we apply patches.. if the patch does not apply properly.. it gives hunks on the files
[03:10:39] <n6pfk> If I do a loads, followed by a send ascii helo_world.srec, go 0x80300000 runs hello_world.
[03:10:46] <jkridner> n6pfk: do you know hello_world.bin is good?
[03:10:57] <jkridner> ah.
[03:11:33] <santoshpattar> jkridner: My requirement is that i want to have the latest stable verion of linux running on Beagle board
[03:11:36] <jkridner> I don't know what "hunks" are, but the majority of people using Beagle today seem to be using the Angstrom kernel builds.
[03:11:46] <n6pfk> It from the same compilation and the memory display looks the same in both cases.
[03:12:12] <santoshpattar> jkridner: So the angstrom kernel is derived from GIT right?
[03:12:28] <santoshpattar> jkridner: I want to take the GIT and apply the patches to get the Angstrom kernel
[03:12:32] <jkridner> santoshpatter: yes, from a certain point with a set of patches.
[03:12:57] <n6pfk> I am not a happy camper.
[03:13:06] <santoshpattar> jkridner: This is bevasue i will not be able to get the Angstrom kernel directly using OE.
[03:13:36] <santoshpattar> jkridner:Can you pease tell me which veriosn of OMAP GIT kernel i should take and what all patches i need to aplpy
[03:14:11] <jkridner> santoshpatter: are you saying that you cannot execute the instructions at http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardAndOpenEmbeddedGit ?
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[03:15:38] <jkridner> santoshpatter: did I tell you yesterday: http://www.beagleboard.org/irclogs/index.php?date=2009-02-12#T12:19:18 ?
[03:15:54] <santoshpattar> jkridner:To get the exact Angstrom kernel.. Please help me
[03:15:54] <santoshpattar> No No.... I can do that.. but i am not able to get the GIT repository beacsue of firewal settings so i will not able be able to download it
[03:15:55] <jkridner> is that not useful?
[03:16:02] <santoshpattar> jkridner:that is the problem. So i want to take GIT .tar directly using the snapshot and aplpy all the opatches to get the angstrom kernel
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[03:16:39] <santoshpattar> yes you told me.. i took the OMAP GIT kernel and tried appying the patches .. But i could not apply the patches
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[03:17:29] <jkridner> oh. go to http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/tmlind/linux-omap-2.6.git;a=commit;h=HEAD and click 'snapshot'.
[03:17:51] <jkridner> oops, that is the wrong point in the tree!
[03:18:01] <Gareth> jkridner: hey :) check email...send the info for getting everyone registered.
[03:18:03] <santoshpattar> jkridner: oh ok...
[03:18:34] <santoshpattar> jkridner:I think thats why i was not able to apply the patches
[03:18:39] <jkridner> santoshpatter: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/tmlind/linux-omap-2.6.git;a=commit;h=79d042a081d3e467c735bb0d9569ed6296f85a3c is the right point in the tree based on the URLs I gave you yesterday.
[03:19:08] <javaJake> Is there any harm in leaving the BB on all night?
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[03:19:21] <jkridner> Gareth: thanks! I thought that was just for invites, not for exhibitors. seems it will work for both. thanks!
[03:19:33] <santoshpattar> jkridner: Ok i will download this and what all patches do i need to apply to get the same Angstrom kernel please provide the link for those patches also
[03:19:43] <Gareth> jkridner: Yup :)
[03:20:21] <Gareth> jkridner: we have coupons for both exhibitors and initees...the system then labels them as the appropriate badge type depending on the coupon.
[03:20:29] <jkridner> santoshpattar: I already gave you the link for all the patches.
[03:20:56] <jkridner> the coupon you send was for exhibitors though, right?
[03:21:05] <Gareth> Yessir.
[03:21:10] <Gareth> along with the instructions.
[03:21:29] <jkridner> thanks so much.
[03:21:33] <Gareth> thank you :)
[03:21:44] <santoshpattar> jkridner: So with this kernel these patches will get applied.. Thank you i will try doing this and will come back if any problems.. thank you..
[03:21:45] <jkridner> I really wish I was going to be there myself, but it looks like there should be good BeagleBoard.org representation.
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[03:21:53] <jkridner> looks like SCALE will be a great event!
[03:22:02] <Gareth> Yup. Looked that way...good group.
[03:22:08] <Gareth> Shaping up that way :)
[03:24:46] <jkridner> n6pfk: I don't see a kermit app on my Mac.
[03:25:37] <jkridner> http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/mac.html says "Macintoshes running Mac OS X have their own native Kermit program: C-Kermit 8.0. Don't bother with this page if you have Mac OS X"
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[03:35:30] <n6pfk> iam using ckermit.
[03:35:51] <n6pfk> In linux.
[03:37:29] <jkridner> I don't see an easy place to grab g-kermit or others for a Mac OS X x86.
[03:48:09] <n6pfk> Well, minicom doesn't cut it for a kermit type transfer.
[03:51:13] * jkridner starts building kermit, but doesn't expect to get to this tonight.
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[03:55:59] <n6pfk> ok, I will check back.
[03:56:10] <jkridner> n6pfk: I've started a download.
[03:56:15] <jkridner> not sure if I did it right.
[03:56:41] <jkridner> I exited screen and did 'gkermit -s u-boot.bin > /dev/tty.usbserial...'
[03:57:57] <jkridner> hmmm... that didn't seem to move any bytes.
[03:58:33] <jkridner> old kermit I used had a command prompt!
[03:58:42] <santoshpattar> jkridner: Hi.. I downloaded that GIT kernel and now trying to appyl the patches.. Still its giving problem..
[03:59:00] <jkridner> use pastebin to share the errors.
[03:59:13] <jkridner> pastebin.com or similar.
[04:00:12] <ds2> Hmmmm
[04:00:58] <santoshpattar> i am not sure how to sue it.. I ahve not used it before... i am trying to aply packages_linux_linux-omap_cache-display-fix.patch this
[04:01:08] <santoshpattar> usorry it is use not sue...
[04:03:56] <santoshpattar> jkridner: I ahve put the log in pastebin.com...
[04:04:06] <jkridner> care to share the URL. :)
[04:04:09] <jkridner> ?
[04:04:20] <santoshpattar> http://pastebin.com/d68d2cbb8
[04:04:25] <santoshpattar> http://pastebin.com/d68d2cbb8
[04:05:21] <jkridner> did you apply these patches in order?
[04:05:44] <santoshpattar> ya.. this is the first patch i am appying..
[04:06:29] <jkridner> "No empty flash" should be the first.
[04:07:30] * jkridner gives up on kermit on my Mac for now b/c gkermit is awful.
[04:08:43] * jkridner doesn't even see the "cache display fix" patch in the list.
[04:09:37] <jkridner> what was the name of the file in http://cgit.openembedded.net/cgit.cgi?url=openembedded/tree/packages/linux/linux-omap_2.6.28.bb ?
[04:11:08] <santoshpattar> jkridner: OH.. I think these are different patches... let me try with the above link patches.. Will i be able to download above link patches directly..
[04:11:47] * jkridner wonders where you got the other patches and how he was unclear yesterday.
[04:12:46] <santoshpattar> i am sorry .. i will try with these patches.... But i dont no how to download these patches..
[04:15:25] <jkridner> http://cgit.openembedded.net/cgit.cgi?url=openembedded/tree/packages/linux/linux-omap
[04:15:59] <jkridner> for example: http://cgit.openembedded.net/cgit.cgi?url=openembedded/blob/&id=ab344b044915a6cca82dfcc3f6b10a6243fed93e&path=packages/linux/linux-omap/no-empty-flash-warnings.patch
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[04:24:29] <santoshpattar> jkridner: Thank you now i am able to apply the patches... Is it possible for me to download the toolchain also for building this kernel?
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[05:14:34] <aaron_> checking for extra flags to get ANSI library prototypes... configure: error: cannot run test program while cross compiling
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[05:28:34] <Guest34858> hi
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[05:30:17] <kulve> hi
[05:30:42] <kulve> (and again I forgot to tab-complete)
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[06:46:53] <garren|work> morning all
[06:50:32] <AV500> hello
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[07:01:20] <santoshpattar> jkridner: HI
[07:01:43] <santoshpattar> jkridner: I downloaded the GIT kernel and successfully applied all the mentioned patches..
[07:01:51] <santoshpattar> Now i am trying to build it..
[07:02:21] <santoshpattar> Which toolchain should i use
[07:02:27] <santoshpattar> arm-linux-gcc?
[07:02:37] <santoshpattar> or arm-linux-none ..? please help me
[07:03:28] <santoshpattar> Dear All
[07:04:33] <santoshpattar> I am trying to build the GIT kernel aftert appying akll the BB patches.. which toolchian should i use
[07:08:21] <AV500> csl2007q3
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[07:18:28] <ldesnogu> at last OMAP3 power usage: http://www.beyond3d.com/content/news/711
[07:18:59] <ldesnogu> there seems to be a mistake for omap3525 MPU however
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[07:24:59] <rehack> anyone messed around with lcd panels much? is there any fiendish trick to the ffc ribbons i don't know about? i'm getting a bunch of lines on my screen, but after un/replugging the ffc ribbons, the lines will be different and sometimes give image segments. could they be dirty somehow?
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[07:30:20] <santoshpattar> Can any body help me in compiling the kernel?
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[07:36:24] <santoshpattar> Hi Nishanth
[07:38:08] <santoshpattar> Nishanth: I am trying to get the angstrom kernel derived from GIT. So i took GIT kernel and aplied all the patches successfully.. while building i am getting the following error --- Unknown architecture armv7-a
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[07:45:33] <methril> good morning
[07:45:43] <AV500> santoshpattar: what toolchain are you using?
[07:45:52] <AV500> santoshpattar: try csl2007q3
[07:46:42] <santoshpattar> i am using arm-linux-gcc (GCC) 4.1.1
[07:46:56] <santoshpattar> from where will i get csl2007q3
[07:47:08] <santoshpattar> AV500: please can you give me the path
[07:48:22] <adj> santoshpattar: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#Compiler
[07:49:45] <AV500> http://www.codesourcery.com/sgpp/lite/arm/portal/subscription3057
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[08:15:36] <santoshpattar> AV500: That toolchian is not a cross compiler
[08:15:49] <santoshpattar> AV500: I need a cross compiler
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[08:18:16] <zuh> koen: I roughly know that, but the point is that it won't get wider testing if just chirs, behdad, carl and some others know what the hell they are talking about :)
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[08:22:08] <santoshpattar> Hi All.... I am getting follwoing error ( unknown architecture armv7-a) which tool chain should i use..
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[08:23:51] <adj> santoshpattar: did you check my link?
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[08:25:01] <AV500> santoshpattar: I am quite sure it is a cross compiler, not many people have a CORTEX A8 as a desktop ps
[08:25:02] <AV500> santoshpattar: I am quite sure it is a cross compiler, not many people have a CORTEX A8 as a desktop pc
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[08:28:11] <santoshpattar> AV500: I installed cs2007q3-armel.tar.gz
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[08:29:38] <santoshpattar> AV500: and i get arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc
[08:30:38] <AV500> well, why dont you get a toolchain from the link I gave you: http://www.codesourcery.com/sgpp/lite/arm/portal/release313
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[08:32:58] <santoshpattar> AV500: ok i have started downloading it.. Its around 150MB :-)
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[08:34:15] <AV500> santoshpattar: sorry for that :-)
[08:35:24] <santoshpattar> thank you for the info.. I will try with that toolchain
[08:35:33] <santoshpattar> thank you for the info.. I will try with that toolchain
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[08:52:44] <tyhk987> hello
[08:54:39] <tyhk987> i want to program the beagleboard ,which version eclipse i should use ?
[08:57:08] <koen> 'morning
[08:57:53] <koen> zuh: yeah, we had the same situation with bitbake a few years ago where I thought cow meant well, dairy animals :)
[08:58:17] <koen> 'bbcow'
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[09:45:56] <saurabh> hello
[09:46:23] <saurabh> I am looking out for a hello world script for beagle board to get started with embeded linux application
[09:46:29] <saurabh> any one who can help out?
[09:46:32] <saurabh> any link wil also do
[09:47:45] <eFfeM> saurabh: http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hello_world_(computerprogramma)
[09:48:03] <eFfeM> but i don't think that is what you want
[09:48:40] <florian> good morning
[09:48:55] <eFfeM> what you probably want it to install the cross tools and (assuming you want to program in C) call the cross compiler
[09:48:59] <eFfeM> morning florian
[09:52:02] <saurabh> actually i wanted to know how to get a sample application running in the init process
[09:55:03] <saurabh> on linux
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[10:00:02] <kulve> saurabh: you mean instead of the init process? Add "init=/usr/bin/yourbinary" to the bootargs
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[10:09:22] <koen> RogerMonk: good morning!
[10:10:00] <RogerMonk> gm sir!
[10:10:10] <RogerMonk> feeling a little shaky this morning - late night hacking...
[10:10:17] <RogerMonk> (same for u IIRC!)
[10:12:53] <RogerMonk> koen thanks for pushing the commit
[10:18:51] <saurabh> yeah right kulve
[10:19:10] <saurabh> whr can i find something like tht
[10:21:18] <kulve> saurabh: you set that init in u-boot to bootargs (bootargs are the kernel arguments passed to kernel by u-boot)
[10:23:51] <saurabh> ok
[10:23:54] <saurabh> sounds trivial
[10:23:58] <koen> RogerMonk: breakfast helped for me :)
[10:24:00] <saurabh> thts it?
[10:24:06] <saurabh> is tht all I need to do/
[10:24:28] <kulve> saurabh: yeah, normally kernel starts /sbin/init, but with that "init" argument you can set it to start anything else
[10:25:38] <RogerMonk> koen - yeah - off for morning tea now :)
[10:26:35] <saurabh> ok kool
[10:26:55] <saurabh> all the peripherals are ready and accessible at this point right/
[10:27:19] <saurabh> i wanna use FTP and USB stick
[10:28:16] <koen> RogerMonk: /OE/angstrom-dev/work/beagleboard-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/dsplink-1_160-r8/dsplink_1_60/dsplink/gpp/BUILD/EXPORT/RELEASE/../../../../gpp/src/osal/Linux/user.c:35:27: error: asm/semaphore.h: No such file or directory
[10:28:20] <kulve> saurabh: peripherals are ready, yes (although it takes a while for the kernel to find the usb-stick).
[10:28:27] <koen> RogerMonk: dsplink doesn't build anymore
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[10:29:14] <saurabh> ohk....basically i am doing some file manipulation on init
[10:29:24] <saurabh> the code wud be in a while(1)
[10:29:30] <saurabh> does this sound sane?
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[10:29:37] <koen> RogerMonk: nm, I know how to fix it
[10:29:51] <kulve> saurabh: maybe. Depends what you are doing..
[10:30:07] <saurabh> didnt get u
[10:31:23] <RogerMonk> koen - that was one of my patches - works ok on omap3evm?
[10:31:28] <kulve> saurabh: "while(1)" doesn't say much. Busy looping is generally a bad idea. But it probably doesn't matter if there's no other applications running
[10:32:08] <koen> RogerMonk: you forgot to add that patch to dsplink_1.60.bb
[10:32:20] <koen> kulve: powermanagement :)
[10:32:23] <saurabh> actually its an embedded application tht runs linux, acquires image, processes it and sends it to pen drive or FTP client
[10:32:24] <kulve> koen: yeah..
[10:33:15] <kulve> saurabh: maybe you shouldn't then bypass the init? Start udevd etc. first, then your app. Then you can wait for /dev/sda1 to appear, then mount it, then do whatever you want, then unmount it
[10:33:39] <koen> you could even hook into udev scripts or hal for that :)
[10:34:01] <koen> RogerMonk: http://cgit.openembedded.net/cgit.cgi?url=openembedded/commit/&id=e0f91b55ce20c87fac5c754205788d561fd2b069
[10:34:53] <kulve> koen: yeah, depending on the application, listening dbus-calls from hal might be a decent way of dealing with that..
[10:36:20] <saurabh> kulve,koel: ok fine, seems i will have to explore a bit
[10:36:23] <saurabh> thks a lot for ur suggestions
[10:36:32] <saurabh> anything else tht u guys think i shud check out
[10:36:33] <saurabh> ?
[10:37:03] <kulve> saurabh: start trying with the real thing. Then you find out what might be the best approach for you
[10:38:03] <kulve> saurabh: first I guess you might try out doing it semi-manually on top of ?ngstr?m (or ALIP) and after that make your own stripped and optimized version
[10:41:22] <RogerMonk> koen - ah-ok - building dsplink - didn't test that - only used codec_engine version of dsplink
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[10:57:05] <BeagleBot> http://beagleboard.org/support/board/45081971428/ was edited by viethoang.myopenid.com
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[11:11:51] <lifebalance> Does anyone know if BeagleBoard will work with this display - http://www.mimomonitors.com/products/mimo-740
[11:14:06] <AV500> given that somebody writes an USB driver for it, yes
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[11:18:58] <santoshpattar> AV500: Hi
[11:19:26] <santoshpattar> i want to recreate linux-omap_2.6.26.bb
[11:20:23] <santoshpattar> i have taken all the following patches from http://cgit.openembedded.net/cgit.cgi?url=openembedded/tree/packages/linux/linux-omap_2.6.26.bb
[11:21:33] <santoshpattar> and i have taken the linux-omap2.6 kernel... when i apply the patches its giving errors.. Can you please help me in taking the correct kernel for 2.6.26.bb
[11:22:52] <santoshpattar> How to recreate the 2.6.26.bb kernel from the GIT kernel.... Please provide info on this
[11:23:27] * koen wonders why people insist on duplicating work
[11:25:00] <santoshpattar> Can any body provide me info on recreating the 2.6.26.bb kernel from GIT kernel.....
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[11:28:23] <AV500> santoshpattar: sorry, I am the wrong person to ask for that. I suggest you use the stock BB kernel and be happy
[11:28:49] <pfo> any chance that the beagle will work if C128 melted away?
[11:29:22] <pfo> i just connected +7vdc to the power port and c128 exploded :(
[11:30:00] <santoshpattar> AV500: I want to rerbuild the kernel so i need to source.. who can be the best person to help me in this?
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[11:40:53] * koen reads http://beaversource.oregonstate.edu/projects/cspfl
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[11:43:13] <MostAwesomeDude> koen: You're reading our project page?
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[11:50:44] <methril> MostAwesomeDude: What is the cost of that board?
[11:52:07] <MostAwesomeDude> methril: Hopefully, about $160 or so to students.
[11:52:16] <methril> :O
[11:52:22] <MostAwesomeDude> We're really excited.
[11:52:30] <methril> are you planning to sell in Europe?
[11:52:35] <methril> looks really nice
[11:52:56] <MostAwesomeDude> But yeah. I need to (finish) rebasing the kernel patches from that SVN into git on linux-omap, and I need to figure out how to get a dang Angstrom build.
[11:53:15] <MostAwesomeDude> methril: It's only intended for students at Oregon State, unfortunately.
[11:53:21] <MostAwesomeDude> They're locally made.
[11:53:34] <methril> oh!! what a pitty :(
[11:53:44] <methril> because is cheap
[11:54:17] <MostAwesomeDude> Yeah.
[11:54:33] <MostAwesomeDude> Really, though, they're essentially Beagles.
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[11:58:48] <methril> well, are beagles + zigbee + LCD + touchscreen + touchpad + accelerometers :)
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[12:05:01] <MostAwesomeDude> Right. Essentially Beagles. :3
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[12:13:39] <koen> MostAwesomeDude: the ncurses problem you're seeing is one of the heisenbugs some people experience which I can't reproduce :/
[12:14:03] <koen> normally you can say "don't use dash" or "don't have '.' in $PATH"
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[12:15:35] <MostAwesomeDude> koen: Hm, I do have dash... Maybe.
[12:16:00] <MostAwesomeDude> Nice to know I'm not alone, though. I'll check and see if it's on other systems too.
[12:16:08] <koen> dash messes gtk+ libtool scripts, you're not up to that point yet
[12:16:08] <MostAwesomeDude> Is there a doc anywhere about how to create an overlay?
[12:17:19] <koen> try http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardOpenEmbeddedDevelopment
[12:17:38] <koen> most docs on OE overlays stuff in a lot of NIH and needless forking in their tutorials
[12:17:42] <MostAwesomeDude> Will do, as soon as my X comes back up.
[12:18:10] <koen> did you break llvm again?
[12:18:13] <MostAwesomeDude> Our NIH is in the hardware, not software. :) Really, we think that only a custom kernel should be needed.
[12:18:49] <MostAwesomeDude> koen: Does everybody know about my X hobbies? :3 No, I'm on Fedora Rawhide, and I accidentally broke my X with yum.
[12:19:25] <koen> I tend to google nicknames :)
[12:19:30] <MostAwesomeDude> Ah.
[12:19:47] <MostAwesomeDude> Yeah, on that OSU page, I'm simpsoco, but if I changed my nick then nobody would recognize me.
[12:20:31] * koen wishes the sgx stuff would use gallium and stuff
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[12:21:59] <MostAwesomeDude> koen: Actually, the moblin driver, poulsbo, is currently a piece of shit, so we're considering just ganging up on it and getting it working.
[12:22:26] <koen> the o-hand people seem to be working in it
[12:22:40] <koen> well "getting it to build against current X" type of working on it
[12:22:56] <koen> how similar are sgx530 and 535?
[12:23:10] <koen> it seems to me that teh 535 is "just" a 530 with twice the MHz
[12:24:42] <koen> that just leaves the problem of getting the x driver blob for ARM
[12:25:21] <koen> hmmm
[12:25:29] <MostAwesomeDude> As far as I can tell it's quite similar, just a little different.
[12:25:30] <koen> the pandora community is funny
[12:25:51] <koen> it takes 9 comments on a blogpost before it's possible to invoke godwins law
[12:27:48] <MostAwesomeDude> Heh.
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[12:43:06] <koen> approx 11 hours left till 1234567890
[12:46:12] <MostAwesomeDude> Hehe.
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[12:58:33] <jkridner> good morning __alanc__ and all.
[12:58:42] <javaJake> Morning
[12:58:56] <jkridner> hi javaJake.
[12:59:19] <__alanc__> mornin'
[12:59:29] <MostAwesomeDude> Morning?
[12:59:32] <MostAwesomeDude> Aw, man.
[12:59:47] <javaJake> You and some other nicks around here were chatting about SCALE. Google was unhelpful. Mind passing me a link?
[12:59:55] <javaJake> jkridner: ^^^ :)
[13:00:29] <jkridner> http://scale7x.socallinuxexpo.org/
[13:00:41] <javaJake> Alright, thanks!
[13:00:46] <jkridner> http://scale7x.socallinuxexpo.org/dotorg/beagleboard
[13:01:36] <javaJake> Ahh, California. That's the other end of the country. :/
[13:01:37] <jkridner> calculus should be around the booth quite a bit and is also a Gentoo fan.
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[13:03:10] * jkridner finds 3.00.00.06 graphics release at https://www-a.ti.com/downloads/sds_support/targetcontent/dvsdk/oslinux_dvsdk/v3_00_3530/index.html
[13:03:48] <jkridner> koen: do you have a howto for those hoping to use it? I expect that getting these out there will be the question of the day.
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[13:04:21] <koen> jkridner: it's all in geoff C's mail
[13:04:21] <jkridner> before I do a big announce on the blog/mailing-list, I want to hear that a few people are able to get this running and there is some kind of useful wiki entry somewhere.
[13:04:27] <jkridner> k.
[13:04:45] * jkridner re-reads, because I thought that there were still issues in his setup.
[13:04:55] <koen> there are
[13:05:12] <koen> thankfully it's all due to missing flipbuffers
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[13:09:39] <koen> jkridner: is there a public changelog for the sdks somewhere?
[13:10:36] <jkridner> for the Graphics SDKs? I don't think so. Yes for the Linux Support Packages.
[13:11:27] <koen> I wonder if the release fixes the truncated binaries in the RC
[13:11:36] <koen> 2 hours remaining till I can see for myself
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[13:14:55] <jkridner> koen: no, the release is identical to what you got.
[13:15:18] <jkridner> only difference is now it is at a URL where anyone can download it.
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[13:15:48] <jkridner> which binaries were truncated?
[13:16:06] <koen> the shader demo is one
[13:17:13] <MostAwesomeDude> Waaait a second.
[13:17:35] <MostAwesomeDude> Currently, the DRM, the kernel modules, for the SGX, are open-sourced, right?
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[13:18:36] <koen> heh
[13:18:41] <koen> MostAwesomeDude: the kernel modules are
[13:19:05] <koen> MostAwesomeDude: no DRM, just kernel modules with lots of camelCaseEveryWhere
[13:19:29] <koen> MostAwesomeDude: nokia attempted to hack in DRM, but that's only 1.1.x, we're up to 1.3.13.1397 now
[13:19:34] <MostAwesomeDude> koen: DRM in this case is Direct Rendering Manager, yeah?
[13:19:39] <koen> yes
[13:20:02] <MostAwesomeDude> So the kernel modules currently do all the work of mapping the PCI device, setting up MMIO, starting the DMA engine?
[13:20:32] <koen> pci?
[13:20:46] <MostAwesomeDude> Sorry, it's not a PCI bus.
[13:20:46] <koen> there's no pci in omap3
[13:20:53] <MostAwesomeDude> Still thinking in DRM terms, I guess.
[13:21:19] <MostAwesomeDude> But these modules essentially set up the chip for accelerated stuffs?
[13:21:24] <koen> the magic is in the binary blobs. AIUI it's a JIT that compiles gl to sgx
[13:21:32] <MostAwesomeDude> koen: Then that's it. Game over. After the OSWALD gets off the ground, I'll see if I can secure funding to repair the userspace.
[13:21:34] <koen> and vg to sgx, etc
[13:22:36] <MostAwesomeDude> It's not exactly JIT. What happens is a state converter takes OpenGL context and creates chip-specific context and then sends it to the chip. It's actually not too terrible to figure out.
[13:22:58] <MostAwesomeDude> The hard part is mostly in the handshake, the magic incantations that get the chip up off the ground. That's why kernel-side code is so important.
[13:23:06] <jkridner> k, I sent the URL to the mailing list with a list of issues.
[13:23:16] <jkridner> please check the list of issues if you can.
[13:26:06] <Crofton|work> anyone here really understand spidev and spidev_test?
[13:26:54] <koen> Crofton|work: prpplague?
[13:28:00] <Crofton|work> yeah, he is the obvious guy
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[13:29:38] <Crofton|work> I have bits coming out and I can see them on the scope, need to start working on getting bits in
[13:29:49] <Crofton|work> which is where people seem to get stumped on the list
[13:29:58] <Crofton|work> I think he took the day off today though
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[13:48:14] <jkridner> Crofton|work: I thought you were only having the issue on the first byte. are you staying you are also getting all 0's?
[13:48:48] <Crofton|work> I am guesing guys are wiring the output pin to the input pin
[13:48:55] <Crofton|work> haven't done that yet :)
[13:49:02] <Crofton|work> the data coming out looks sane
[13:49:15] <Crofton|work> on the scope, which means I only see a few bytes
[13:49:41] <tomba> I have the strangest problem with overo. if USB cable is connected, DVI output is unstable, disappearing and coming back again.
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[13:51:14] <koen> tomba: powersupply problems?
[13:51:44] <tomba> I don't know. that is what I'm thinking about, but I'm not sure how to test or measure it
[13:52:25] <koen> which usb cable, btw?
[13:52:25] <tomba> but as overo is in gadget mode, I don't get it how it could affect
[13:52:29] <koen> there are 3 options :)
[13:54:07] <tomba> options for what?
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[14:19:10] <koen> jkridner: do you have any objections to doing ./devmem2 0x48004b40 w 0 in the pvr initscript?
[14:19:15] <koen> tomba: for usb plugs
[14:19:21] <koen> tomba: serial console, musb and ehci
[14:19:57] <jkridner> koen: I have no objections, but we can expect problems with future kernels. I suspect that you'll provide close tracking when the kernels are fixed such that there are new solutions.
[14:20:37] <koen> jkridner: I still don't get why the flip code being a noop being detrimental to performance
[14:22:09] <AV500> koen: tearing, no?
[14:22:36] <koen> AV500: I meant performance as in 'speed' :)
[14:22:48] <koen> tearing is annoying, but doesn't cause a slowdown
[14:22:51] <AV500> yes, maybe it is just tearing, perf should stay the same
[14:23:12] <AV500> "visual performance" :-)
[14:23:20] <koen> I got annoyed with hearing "it's so slow because it lacks flipbuffers"
[14:23:34] <koen> and now it turns out the kernel modules run the sgx at 55MHz instead of 110Mhz
[14:23:51] <AV500> so why not fix the kernel module?
[14:23:56] <AV500> binary?
[14:24:42] <koen> gplv2
[14:25:05] <koen> but till recently TI wasn't interested in supporting anything that wasn't 2.6.22 or $$$$$$$$$
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[14:28:39] <AV500> but there is source code somewhere?
[14:29:05] <AV500> any git visible, or I have to download the 400MB?
[14:29:24] <koen> git clone http://www.bat.org/~tomba/git/omap3-sgx.git/
[14:29:34] <koen> that's patched to support DSS@
[14:29:35] <koen> a2
[14:29:54] <koen> and it has a sane makefile instead of the TI recursive ones
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[14:31:54] <tomba> koen: yes, I have console connected. but when I connect the gadget usb cable (can't remember if it's musb or ehci), the image starts to stutter. removing cable, works again
[14:32:11] <koen> maybe a short somewhere
[14:32:19] <koen> I only tried musb host and ehci
[14:34:22] * MostAwesomeDude scribbles down URLs furiously
[14:34:34] <MostAwesomeDude> Is this channel, by any stroke of luck, being logged?
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[14:34:51] <Crofton|work> yes
[14:35:05] <Crofton|work> You'll need to find the url from beagleboard.org
[14:36:15] <muriani> zOMG ALL I SAY IS BEING RECORDED!?!?!?
[14:36:22] <muriani> :p
[14:36:42] <kulve> at least all that you write
[14:37:08] <koen> MostAwesomeDude: see topic :)
[14:37:22] <koen> MostAwesomeDude: freenode TOS requires channels to inform people of logging
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[14:38:25] <MostAwesomeDude> Oh, hello, topic.
[14:38:29] <MostAwesomeDude> ( >&)
[14:39:43] <brummik> hello everybody! Quick question: is S-Video out fully functional on the BB running Linux?
[14:40:33] <AV500> koen, sgx driver tries to set clock to 110
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[14:48:49] <brummik> anyone, please: is S-Video out working in Linux?
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[14:50:50] <Vincent2> Hi
[14:50:59] <muriani> holy shit android boots fast on the beagle
[14:51:08] <muriani> (I think it's a beagleboard, looks like one
[14:51:13] <muriani> http://i.gizmodo.com/5152928/android-on-e+ink-induces-headaches-is-actually-great-news-for-ebook-readers
[14:51:34] <Vincent2> I would like to know the value of the bus_width currently used for my SD card. How could I get this information ?
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[15:02:08] <eFfeM> what is the simplest way to start an app during bootup? is rc.local supported on beagle (the file does not exist atm)
[15:07:56] <koen> eFfeM: inherit update-rc.d
[15:08:34] <ali_as> muriani, it is! http://labs.moto.com/
[15:08:57] <eFfeM> koen, not sure if i want the package to auto install the service
[15:09:21] <eFfeM> actually just discovered that X needs to be running so it has to go in xinitrc or so.
[15:09:44] <eFfeM> I'm writing some text on how to use synergy, and I think it is convenient to tell how to autostart it
[15:10:06] <koen> eFfeM: check packages/angstrom/ for the x11vnc init
[15:10:16] <eFfeM> koen, thanks will do
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[15:17:31] <ali_as> I heard about the freescale cortex A8 yesterday.
[15:18:19] <ali_as> Fingers crossed for 1GHz.
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[15:20:38] <koen> jkridner: http://cgit.openembedded.net/cgit.cgi?url=openembedded/commit/&id=1bd17718ed3df6521b77d6aeef36e58db7fd1fda
[15:21:55] <eFfeM> documented the synergy usage: http://www.elinux.org/BeagleBoard/James#Optionally:_install_Synergy
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[15:24:01] <jkridner> eFeM: I think your DISPLAY= line is wrong.
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[15:24:10] <jkridner> DISPLAY=:0.0 makes sense.
[15:24:30] <jkridner> DISPLAY=0:0 would mean that someone has a machine name of '0'.
[15:24:53] <jkridner> did you test these steps yet?
[15:24:56] <eFfeM> could be, I always mix those up, i thought this was what I did, but will correct
[15:25:04] <eFfeM> will check
[15:25:10] <eFfeM> (again)'
[15:28:03] <AV500> eFfeM: synergy looks cool, does it also support Windows XP :-)
[15:28:15] <AV500> then I could rid my desk of one kbd/mouse
[15:28:17] <eFfeM> i think so, but i never used it under xp
[15:28:22] <eFfeM> see the synergy web page
[15:28:50] <jkridner> I use it under XP.
[15:29:24] <jkridner> synergy is part of beagleboard-demo-image and I use it often this way.
[15:29:27] <eFfeM> jkridner: retested and whereas for some reason yesterday I needed the DISPLAY var, I do not need it now
[15:29:28] <AV500> jkridner: ok, will check it out
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[15:30:02] <eFfeM> anyway, it definitely should be :0.0 ; corrected it; thanks for pointing this out
[15:30:36] <eFfeM> jkridner: btw will there be another contest this month ?
[15:31:17] <jkridner> yes. The Facebook page says it ends this month, but I expect to extend it into March.
[15:31:36] <jkridner> I was reluctant to make a splash until the 3D graphics was out, because it was so close to release.
[15:31:48] <jkridner> I want to encourage people to do something with 3D for the contest.
[15:31:50] <eFfeM> ah, didn't look at the facebook page, did not see anything on the mailing list or on elinux
[15:31:58] <jkridner> Though James seems to be moving right along. :)
[15:32:01] * eFfeM wants to resubmit james
[15:32:06] <eFfeM> ty!
[15:32:33] <eFfeM> it is a pity i cannot get my pvr running, apparently the musb driver has some issues
[15:32:46] <eFfeM> but i'm not sure if i can debug those
[15:33:20] <eFfeM> my webcam also has some problems (colored stripes) which look like some data corruption (same cam works fine under opensuse and nslu2)
[15:35:43] <jkridner> dirk2,koen,robertk,mru,ds2,sakoman: shall we set some deadlines for Contest #2?
[15:36:24] <jkridner> how long will it take some of the existing entries or a 3D entry to become compelling?
[15:36:44] <jkridner> eFfeM: how far is James from being at a demo stage?
[15:37:01] <eFfeM> jkridner: one of the reasons asking this is to make a schedule
[15:37:24] <eFfeM> I have a fair amount of time next week, need to glue things together and probably create some top level UI.
[15:37:30] <jkridner> here's your chance to influence the dates. :)
[15:37:48] <eFfeM> What is on the wiki page is all running so I can easily make a demo image
[15:38:44] <koen> jkridner: march 1st?
[15:39:08] <eFfeM> jkridner: what about settling for end of feb? eg feb 27, with the judges to decide in the weekend of feb 28/mar 1 ?
[15:40:13] * eFfeM is also interested to play with the 3D stuff so a pointer is appreciated
[15:41:17] <eFfeM> (currently kind of wrapping up what I am doing by updating the wiki page; documentation: the most boring part of any project :-) )
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[15:44:13] <jkridner> http://97.65.119.20/android-meets-e-ink/
[15:44:44] <jkridner> If that is enough time, I'm fine with Feb 27.
[15:45:05] <jkridner> result on Mar 1.
[15:45:20] <eFfeM> fine with me :-)
[15:45:46] <eFfeM> gives me some pressure to actually create the docs
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[15:57:39] <n6pfk> jkridner: the loadb problem was my error.
[15:58:03] <jkridner> glad to hear. can you document the error?
[15:59:17] <n6pfk> Not needed, I had a bad hello_world.bin file.
[16:00:21] <n6pfk> I copied over to my XO which I am using as the serial terminal and never updated it.
[16:00:56] <n6pfk> Senior moment.
[16:02:24] <n6pfk> I used objcopy to convert the working .srec file to a .bin file and the new .bin file worked.
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[16:22:03] <n6pfk> Bye
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[16:26:51] <ddompe> does somebody knows if the EHCI port on the Rev C works already with OE kernel?
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[16:29:29] <mru> the C1D boards should have working ehci
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[16:32:42] <koen> ddompe: it works
[16:32:50] <koen> ddompe: if you have a recent uboot
[16:33:04] <koen> ddompe: try http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/u-boot.bin
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[16:40:43] * dirk2 looks in archives what he missed regarding uboot
[16:43:59] <dirk2> jkridner: contest: I'm fine with feb 28/mar 1, too.
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[17:01:10] <dirk2> jkridner: you are again too fast for me. Just wanted to update http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/contest , but it's done already :)
[17:06:51] <dirk2> contest: Do we need to ask for renewal (how?) for existing projects? In case some of the existing entries are not interested in contest #2?
[17:07:20] <koen> create a new section for the contest
[17:07:27] <koen> people can move over sections
[17:10:19] <dirk2> koen: good idea. will do so.
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[17:16:01] <jkridner> why would they not be interested in contest #2?
[17:17:53] <dirk2> they are not interested any more, have no time, are busy, doing other stuff etc
[17:18:54] <dirk2> copy their project description from one section to an other to sign they are still alive is fair, no?
[17:21:08] <dirk2> eFfeM: I moved James already to contest #2 to have an example entry. Sounds like you are still alive an interested ;)
[17:21:13] <jkridner> any objections to http://beagleboard.blogspot.com/2009/02/software-design-contest-2-in-3d.html before I push to the RSS feed and send a notification to the mailing list?
[17:21:30] <jkridner> fine, it is fair.
[17:21:42] <jkridner> they should stay engaged to win.
[17:23:54] <dirk2> jkridner: RSS: nice! k.
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[17:34:15] <jkridner> consider it official: http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/661879a591dc396d#
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[18:10:58] <eFfeM> dirk2: thanks! I'm definitely interested
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[18:12:07] <torus_> hi.
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[19:46:33] <live_winry> Hello. I was trying to run the Angstrom demo on the BB and it does not seem to be able to run from the flash memory. This has not been a problem in the past.
[19:47:02] <live_winry> After I configured the BB to run from flash and not the SD card I got this
[19:47:15] <live_winry> beagleboard login: mtd->read(0x979 bytes from 0xb8b3800) returned ECC error
[19:47:34] <live_winry> JFFS2 notice: (1655) check_node_data: wrong data CRC in data node at 0x0b8b3734:
[19:47:44] <live_winry> read 0x978821fc, calculated 0x37cdfc80.
[19:48:14] <live_winry> Usually the BB login just continues to blink, but this time I got that. Any idea what is going on?
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[19:52:28] * koen uses ubifs to run in nand, not jffs2
[19:52:31] <live_winry> Does anybody know who I should ask about this issue?
[19:53:26] <orifice_work> what do i need to link against for compiling with sys/sockets.h ?
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[19:56:14] <kulve> orifice_work: c library
[19:56:24] <orifice_work> -lc ?
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[19:56:41] <kulve> I'm not sure if you can even build without it..
[19:57:02] <kulve> i.e. it's linked in always
[19:57:06] <orifice_work> ah. ok
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[19:57:51] <javaJake> Kinda like the mysterious linux-gate.so.1 :P
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[20:10:36] <yosmy> does anybody know what library can I use for having sw rendering (opengl ES is better) on the angstrom without using the PowerVR of the bb?
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[20:12:11] <koen> yosmy: vincent would probably work, otherwise mesa can provide full opengl in software
[20:15:24] <kulve> I guess they both are extremely slow on sw?
[20:16:02] <koen> vincent was designed for pdas and is reasonably now slow
[20:16:09] <koen> s/now/not/
[20:17:08] <lcuk> theres a TinyGL implementation - all totally software and delivers a subset of real GL but keeping the api
[20:17:37] <lcuk> i compiled and ran on my n810 - might be enough on the faster hardware..
[20:19:15] <kulve> koen: well, I guess it depends on a bit on the hw, but e.g. on Nokia's 770, a rotating textured cube was something like 10fps
[20:19:38] <kulve> I guess it has quite high resolution compared to the hardwares the vincent was meant to
[20:20:30] <koen> right
[20:20:42] <koen> jkridner|work: http://www.robster.org.uk/blog/2009/02/13/introducing-librest/
[20:20:51] <ds2> ``morning''
[20:22:24] <javaJake> ds2: curious what the quotes are for :)
[20:22:55] <ds2> Fri Feb 13 12:22:51 PST 2009
[20:23:19] <ds2> any questions? ;)
[20:24:37] <javaJake> Yea :P
[20:24:56] <javaJake> Relation between time and quoting, for example
[20:26:20] <ds2> anyone tried a gpio expander on the expansion header?
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[20:27:57] <koen> ds2: didn't prpplague do that?
[20:28:18] <ds2> oh yeah, he mentioned something along those lines
[20:28:34] <ds2> I got to figure out if I can use I2C first
[20:29:01] <ds2> SPI/second SD/UART is eatting up a lot of pins
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[20:31:58] <torus_> anyone knows if debian on beagleboard supports dspbridge?
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[20:33:04] <kulve> probably it doesn't (yet at least)
[20:33:15] <kulve> but debianizing that shouldn't be a big thing
[20:34:03] <torus_> hm. maybe I'm lucky... does anyone here has a running image that does: a: alsa and b: dspbridge? I've tried to compile one myself, but the patches don't work anymore :-(
[20:35:50] <kulve> I did too and failed as well
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[20:36:08] <kulve> I think I have it running on the TI kernels but I don't know if they support beagle..
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[20:36:41] <kulve> (from omapzoom.org that is)
[20:36:58] <torus_> hm - worth a try..
[20:37:30] <torus_> it's kinda tragic. All I need is audio and dsp. the linux-kernel is just in the way..
[20:37:58] <torus_> I whish I could boot the dsp from uboot..
[20:38:08] <torus_> wish even...
[20:39:05] <koen> dsplink works with 2.6.28
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[20:40:05] <torus_> koen, without patches?
[20:40:57] <koen> OE has all the patched needed, so the binaries in the angstrom feeds just work
[20:41:36] <kulve> but you still need to install the dsp binaries from some TI release..?
[20:41:44] <torus_> hm. maybe I should really give OE a try.. my last working image is broken anyways.
[20:46:07] <jkridner|work> re: http://www.robster.org.uk/blog/2009/02/13/introducing-librest/, does indeed look elegant, but do we really need yet another solution for this?
[20:47:19] <koen> jkridner|work: intel it trying to make fancy frontends for webapps, e.g. flickr browser with clutter
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[20:54:15] <koen> jkridner|work: e.g. http://git.moblin.org/cgit.cgi/mojito/tree/README
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[20:56:43] * torus_ installs OE now..
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[21:10:28] <koen> looks like zoom2 has an autofocus lens
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[21:17:45] <koen> gcohler: good to hear you got 3d working
[21:18:24] <gcohler> koen: Thanks. It's working but not superb yet. :-)
[21:18:50] <koen> hopefully TI allocates some resources to fix that :)
[21:19:01] <gcohler> BTW, is there a way to tell Angstrom to not start up the gpe-dm? Suppose I want to run the desktop image, but run it in console mode.
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[21:19:52] <koen> update-rc.d
[21:20:10] <koen> that will show the help output on how to add/remove initscripts
[21:20:35] <gcohler> Ok. I know how to change the scripts. I was wondering if there was a u-boot way.
[21:21:40] <gcohler> I'm pushing the TI folks to add some resource. But you can never tell. I'm just one voice.
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[21:36:02] <florian> re
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[21:44:15] <bkero> /wi/win 50
[21:45:02] <ds2> grrrr when maemo goes awry.... full battery to near zero battery in 2 minutes :(
[21:45:11] <bkero> what
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[21:46:23] <jkridner|work> gcohler: you are too modest. :)
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[21:47:42] <jkridner|work> koen: you going to add mojito to Angstrom?
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[21:48:06] <koen> jkridner|work: maybe later
[21:48:16] <koen> jkridner|work: it seems like a backend
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[22:09:01] <gcohler> It's Friday night for Koen, evening for us. Mojitos sound good. Or my favorite is the Brazilian version the Caiparinha (probably spelled wrong).
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[22:12:52] <maelcum|konv> caipirinha
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[22:17:20] <lcuk> omap3 question: supposing i had 5mpix images on my drive. to load them i generally use libjpeg - at the moment does this make use of the hardware accel?
[22:20:47] <koen> gcohler: after the last trip to bossaconference.org I keep a bottle of Cacha??a in stock :)
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[22:36:19] <simon42> one more hour :-)
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[22:56:37] <mib_4r3c43> anyone able to get http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/gst-openmax gstopenmax working on the beagleboard with the dspbridge?
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[23:16:08] <brijesh> can anyone help me on figuring out kernel cmdline arg for setting video modes on fb1,fb2? passing omapfb.video_mode=480x640MR-16@60 sets only fb0.
[23:16:20] <brijesh> im on omap3evm
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[23:33:46] <puppy> Anyone got gst-openmax working on their beagleboard?
[23:35:29] <BeagleBot> http://beagleboard.org/project/beagleepd/ was edited by jayakumar.myopenid.com
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[23:41:18] <BeagleBot> http://beagleboard.org/project/beagleepd/ was edited by jayakumar.myopenid.com
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[23:47:55] <jkridner|work> ah.
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[23:50:08] <torus_> in oe, when I build the console-image.. Where is the content of console-image actually defined? e.g. where can I add packages that I want to be included?
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