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IRC Log for 2009-02-24

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  1. [00:00:08] <ryno> how do you connect it to the board then?
  2. [00:00:28] <mru> pin 1-1, 2-2, etc
  3. [00:00:56] <mru> the pin that had the plug should go closes to the power jack
  4. [00:01:31] <ryno> yeah I see pin 10 is marked on the board, close to the power jack
  5. [00:01:33] <mru> same place you'd clip a pin on the board
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  7. [00:04:31] <ryno> thanks for your help
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  9. [00:06:01] <mru> you're welcome
  10. [00:06:16] <mru> you newcomers have it so easy...
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  13. [00:24:11] <ZeZu> this is getting annoying
  14. [00:24:44] <ZeZu> now i get an illegal instruction from a method with nothing other than bx lr in reg. arm code
  15. [00:25:31] <raster> mru: in your day you had to check the electrical signals on the omap3530 pins with your tongue
  16. [00:25:41] <raster> if it tingles u know you're getting singal
  17. [00:25:46] <raster> need to interpret it then with tingles
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  19. [00:26:40] <mru> I started thinking of the scene in the matrix where he's "watching it in code", but it got a bit dirty...
  20. [00:27:10] <raster> hahahahah
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  23. [00:32:12] <ZeZu> the assembler isn't aligning anything .. is it normal that you have to do it yourself for .. each method ?
  24. [00:32:48] <mru> if you want alignment, you must use .align directives
  25. [00:33:08] <mru> don't overdo it though
  26. [00:34:04] <ZeZu> well i assumed if they must be aligned, that the assembler would align them
  27. [00:34:04] <mru> it's beneficial if you can shift the code around so loops stay in one cache line
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  29. [00:34:18] <mru> arm instructions must be 4-byte aligned
  30. [00:34:22] <mru> that's the only requirement
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  32. [00:34:27] <ZeZu> it wasn't !
  33. [00:34:31] <mru> oh
  34. [00:34:38] <ZeZu> is that not odd ?
  35. [00:34:48] <mru> yes, in both senses
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  37. [00:35:11] <ZeZu> 0000852a <CallPrintARM>:
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  39. [00:35:27] <ZeZu> no its still even
  40. [00:35:30] <ZeZu> err
  41. [00:35:43] <ZeZu> the second bit is not ;|
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  51. [01:41:27] <ZeZu> just as amusing, a method in one file is called, and it ends up calling one in a diff. file
  52. [01:41:58] <ZeZu> so .. ok .. most of it was commented, maybe it all was, and was actually going into the code for the next section .... could happen if the compiler got rid of it all
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  56. [01:48:22] <ZeZu> definitely not the case
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  109. [06:53:21] <leslie> Hi all, anybody tried building gtkglext on beagleboard?
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  116. [07:23:26] <methril> good morning
  117. [07:24:09] <AV500> gm
  118. [07:26:30] <erbo> morning
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  123. [08:08:34] <erbo> hmm, sending psplash=false to the kernel has no effect for me. I still get the splash
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  148. [09:26:06] <ldesnogu> ZeZu: if you generate code, you indeed have to flush caches before executing it; swi 0x9f0002 is the syscall
  149. [09:27:16] <suihkulokki> ldesnogu: Aaiieee, that's the oldabi version
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  151. [09:27:46] <mru> isn't there a glibc interface for this?
  152. [09:28:04] <suihkulokki> __clear_cache
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  156. [09:33:15] <ldesnogu> suihkulokki: I shouldn't have looked at qemu armv4 backend :)
  157. [09:37:36] <suihkulokki> ldesnogu: if there is still a swi 0x9f0002 without __clear_cache alternative, it's is good if you looked in :)
  158. [09:40:22] <florian> good morning
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  166. [09:56:06] <Vincent2> 'morning
  167. [09:57:09] <Vincent2> koen: you told me you have oprofile working well in Angstrom <
  168. [09:57:12] <Vincent2> ?*
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  185. [10:34:17] <Beagle3> Whats up guys, is there any getting started for beagle board
  186. [10:40:56] <keesj> yo yo yo yo
  187. [10:42:57] <keesj> Beagle3: try elinux.org
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  189. [11:01:20] <mib_xe8v9h> where can I get the best beaglboard android porting documentation
  190. [11:01:25] <mib_xe8v9h> ?
  191. [11:01:27] <mib_xe8v9h> tx
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  193. [11:17:18] <Beagle3> thanks dude
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  204. [12:13:34] <leslie> Hi, anybody knows how to make window system to support opengl?
  205. [12:14:09] <leslie> my application, which using opengl and gtkglext, it reports: window system doesn't support OpenGL
  206. [12:23:09] <leslie> is it to enable opengl support in Xorg? how to do that?
  207. [12:28:30] <tomba> only if you use software opengl. Beagle hardware doesn't support opengl, only opengl ES
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  209. [12:32:17] <leslie> my application is built with mesa lib in oe, will it use beagle hardware? and how to make it running on board? it requires opengl window system, and my Xorg driver is fb
  210. [12:38:19] <jkridner> good morning all.
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  212. [12:40:17] <jkridner> reminder: just a couple more days for http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/contest
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  235. [14:10:56] <tyhk1987> anyone is using codesourcery g++ ?
  236. [14:11:05] <jkridner> yes.
  237. [14:11:12] <jkridner> er, lite.
  238. [14:11:54] <tyhk1987> have you make GUI on the beagle ?
  239. [14:12:02] <jkridner> yes.
  240. [14:12:18] <tyhk1987> how to do that ?
  241. [14:12:24] <tyhk1987> just eclipse ?
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  243. [14:12:30] <jkridner> no, command-line.
  244. [14:12:47] <tyhk1987> with QT ?
  245. [14:13:00] <jkridner> I've built existing Qt apps.
  246. [14:13:23] <jkridner> I design my own GUIs with the browser.
  247. [14:14:09] <tyhk1987> what browser ?
  248. [14:14:18] <jkridner> Epiphany and Firefox.
  249. [14:14:18] <tyhk1987> do yu use java or c++ ?
  250. [14:14:41] <jkridner> Java, but not C++ for any of my own apps. I've also built a simple app with Android.
  251. [14:15:23] <tyhk1987> have you used c++ ?
  252. [14:15:56] <jkridner> used existing apps written in C++, but I don't like to code in C++.
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  255. [14:16:21] <tyhk1987> i agree with you
  256. [14:17:03] <tyhk1987> i am noe doing a project on the beagle ,but i am confused with GUI program on beagle
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  259. [14:17:47] <tyhk1987> could you give me some tips ?
  260. [14:17:50] <robclark> GTK uses C.. plus bindings are avail in script languages like python which can be good to quickly whip up a GUI..
  261. [14:18:17] <robclark> (well, gobject tries to do classes in C.. I'm not sure which is worse, that or C++..)
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  263. [14:18:37] <robclark> (gobject => lots of boilerplate template code)
  264. [14:20:24] <tyhk1987> what language do you usually use when you do GUI on beagle ?
  265. [14:21:17] <robclark> I haven't yet on beagle.. but poked around just a bit with C/gtk on other omap/linux platforms..
  266. [14:21:20] * jkridner writes in evil JavaScript and uses the dojo and jquery libraries.
  267. [14:21:56] <robclark> but really, it depends less on the hardware, and more on all the software on top..
  268. [14:22:15] <robclark> ie. if you have linux, X11, etc, then it is more or less like writing GUI for a desktop linux box..
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  271. [14:23:40] <tyhk1987> i am using angstrom , and when i program on the X86 plattforms ,i should use cross-compiling
  272. [14:25:08] <tyhk1987> a hello world program is easy ,but when i want to do a GUI,it is hard for me ,and i don't know how to begin?
  273. [14:25:39] <jkridner> if your GUI app is small, you can do native development to avoid doing cross-dev.
  274. [14:25:58] <jkridner> you can even run 'git' natively to manage your code.
  275. [14:25:59] <tyhk1987> is there any website that i can refer ?
  276. [14:26:15] <tyhk1987> you mean i install a developtool on the SD card ?
  277. [14:28:24] <tyhk1987> how can i avoid cross-compilng ?
  278. [14:28:35] <jkridner> opkg install task-native-sdk cpp gccmakedep git
  279. [14:28:37] <jkridner> http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/e8bff0c78955d6d/f557d42379c49c6b?lnk=gst&q=task-native-sdk#f557d42379c49c6b
  280. [14:31:36] <tyhk1987> if i want do cross-compiling , do i have any good choice ?
  281. [14:33:22] <tyhk1987> can i use email to contact you ?
  282. [14:33:41] <robclark> I'm not sure if it is the best environment for *developing*, but bitbake/openembedded is good for cross compiling..
  283. [14:34:09] <robclark> but basically cross compiling is sort of the same as native compiling.. just different compiler executables, library paths, include paths, etc
  284. [14:34:11] <jkridner> I'm here pretty much every morning US time.
  285. [14:34:58] <jkridner> There is work in Angstrom to have it output its tool-chain for use on the PC without needing to create recipes.
  286. [14:35:15] <jkridner> Generating recipes isn't so bad, but it is still something to learn.
  287. [14:35:20] <tyhk1987> but i am in china ,so it is night here
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  289. [14:35:55] <jkridner> discussion AT beagleboard.org might be good for you.
  290. [14:36:11] <jkridner> also, there are frequently people on this channel.
  291. [14:36:19] <tyhk1987> so i can install a devolop tool on the sd card ,then do any program on the beagle ?
  292. [14:36:36] <tyhk1987> ok ,thank you very much !!!
  293. [14:37:09] <robclark> yeah, recipes are not bad.. but would be more convenient for development if you could tell bitbake to just use your local git/svn checkout for src for some certain package (ie. for it's tmp/work/..etc../..etc.. directory)
  294. [14:37:24] <jkridner> as with any development, use version control.
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  296. [14:38:13] <robclark> yeah, but bitbake always wants to take the src from the repository, not from your local workspace where you are working on some changes...
  297. [14:39:14] <tyhk1987> when the beagleboard is compilmg ,will it run very slowly ?
  298. [14:39:16] <_boto> i am trying to get an overview how much memory is consumed by various parts in system
  299. [14:39:33] <jkridner> so the "sdk" work would help you avoid needing to import stuff into the local workspace.
  300. [14:39:36] <_boto> i see that the user apps including firefox and XOrg consume about 50 megs
  301. [14:39:46] <Crofton|work> robclark, I've made recipes that pull from svn with AUTOREV set b4
  302. [14:39:59] <_boto> the remaining memory (about 50 megs) seem to be consumed by kernel, can this be true?
  303. [14:40:12] <_boto> top shows me a memory usage of about 100 megs
  304. [14:40:13] <tyhk1987> maybe i can use 4G SD card
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  306. [14:40:58] <robclark> I think I'm explaining myself badly.. bitbake is fine once the changes are committed to the workspace.. the issue is how do you do development that way.. you always push the changes to the repository, and *then* see if it compiles?
  307. [14:41:05] <robclark> s/workspace/repository
  308. [14:41:05] <tyhk1987> what i am afraid is the speed when i am comping
  309. [14:41:40] <simon42> the speed of the compiler run oder the other applications working in background?
  310. [14:41:53] <_boto> if i start firefox and surf a little i see that the system memory runs empty; the network traffic gets slow as the kernel cannot immediately allocate memory for the packets
  311. [14:41:57] <simon42> s/oder/or/
  312. [14:42:32] <AV500> _boto: I would not use firefox on the BB, use a webkit based browser, faster and lighter
  313. [14:42:39] <_boto> although the swap partition is on, it seems that only having firefox + Xorg + gpe running drives the memory usage to limits
  314. [14:42:53] <tyhk1987> thank you all ,than you very much ! i need to go !
  315. [14:42:58] <_boto> AV500, unfortunately i am forced to use it
  316. [14:43:28] <AV500> _boto: think about the last time you had a PC with only 128 meg and what you were running on it...
  317. [14:43:44] <_boto> lol, that time there were no youtube ;-)
  318. [14:44:18] <_boto> in principle, i would like to know what is consuming the rest of 50 megs
  319. [14:44:28] <_boto> i cannot believe that the kernel needs 50 megs
  320. [14:45:20] <_boto> looking into slaptop entries does not unveile any unusual object memory too
  321. [14:45:29] <AV500> page cache?
  322. [14:45:43] <mru> the kernel will use any spare memory for various caches
  323. [14:46:01] <AV500> thanks mru, you take it from here :-)
  324. [14:46:16] <_boto> is there a way to define some rules for the kernel and set a limit?
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  326. [14:46:40] <AV500> no need, the kernel drop cached pages if the user space needs mem, no?
  327. [14:46:41] <mru> why would you want to do that?
  328. [14:46:49] <AV500> drops
  329. [14:47:01] <_boto> well, the network traffic is the problem ...
  330. [14:47:04] <mru> AV500: yes, it does
  331. [14:47:25] <mru> _boto: the problem there seems to be that userspace is using too much, not the kernel...
  332. [14:47:38] <_boto> if the mem usage is on limit then the kernel needs some iterations when memory is needed by the usb lan driver
  333. [14:47:58] <_boto> mru: i see that the user space needs about 50 megs
  334. [14:48:03] <mru> yes, but if userspace didn't keep taking it back, it would be faster
  335. [14:48:10] <_boto> the system has a total of 128 megs
  336. [14:48:19] <_boto> sure
  337. [14:49:09] <_boto> is there a way to play with vm mem settings for reserved mem size etc?
  338. [14:49:41] <_boto> what i would like to have is a memory margin for networking traffic
  339. [14:49:53] <_boto> something about 5 megs may be ok
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  342. [14:50:48] <_boto> the problem is: if the network traffic is not fast enough then media will stuck
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  345. [14:55:15] <AV500> _boto: could it that your decoding of the media is the bottleneck?
  346. [14:55:51] <_boto> well, atm i see only that simple surfing in internet via firefox and looking some images cause already the problem
  347. [14:56:18] <_boto> using gstreamer fetching media from internet seems to have the same problem
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  349. [14:56:59] <_boto> the lan driver tries to get kernel memory and cannot; this leads to several retries until the kernel manages to drop non-used memory
  350. [14:57:22] <mru> are you sure this is what's happening?
  351. [14:57:32] <mru> or are you just speculating?
  352. [14:58:21] <_boto> i am sure
  353. [14:58:34] <_boto> i get kernel logs and looked into driver sources
  354. [14:59:02] <_boto> the driver gets packets and tries to allocate memory in atomic mode
  355. [14:59:07] <AV500> but wouldnt the driver allways alloc/free the same memory all the time?
  356. [14:59:09] <_boto> and that fails
  357. [14:59:31] <mru> it would only fail if something is taking it away between packets
  358. [14:59:38] <mru> and that would be your hungry userspace
  359. [14:59:39] <_boto> the driver passes the new packet to higher level of networking, that level frees the packets
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  361. [14:59:53] <_boto> mru: yep
  362. [15:00:08] <mru> so do less in userspace
  363. [15:00:09] <_boto> mru: but i hope to find a solution somehow
  364. [15:00:18] <AV500> do not use firefox
  365. [15:00:20] <mru> buy a rev c beagle
  366. [15:00:30] <_boto> mru: the application needs firefox, i cannot change the application requirements
  367. [15:00:30] <mru> or buy a pc
  368. [15:00:34] <AV500> or ram doubler (tm)
  369. [15:00:43] <_boto> i have also rev c
  370. [15:00:43] <mru> AV500: aka rev c
  371. [15:01:01] <_boto> it has only 128 megs
  372. [15:01:09] <jkridner|work> Rev C has 256MB.
  373. [15:01:24] <_boto> oh, you mean i have rev b then?
  374. [15:01:28] <AV500> yep
  375. [15:01:29] * _boto checks ...
  376. [15:01:32] <jkridner|work> yeah, what does the board say?
  377. [15:01:50] <_boto> you are right; i have rev b
  378. [15:01:59] <_boto> is rev c already available?
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  381. [15:02:13] <mru> no
  382. [15:02:14] <jkridner|work> late March.
  383. [15:02:28] <AV500> = april 1st :-)
  384. [15:02:30] <_boto> cool, then there is hope :-)
  385. [15:02:35] <_boto> hehe, april joke
  386. [15:02:41] <AV500> there is always hope...
  387. [15:03:09] <AV500> jkridner|work: btw, can I trade 2 rev B for one C?
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  389. [15:03:23] <jkridner|work> sorry. :)
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  392. [15:03:47] <jkridner|work> maybe someone else will buy them from you at 1/2 price.
  393. [15:03:54] <AV500> I am sure
  394. [15:04:09] <mru> keep them and build a cluster
  395. [15:04:23] <_boto> hehe
  396. [15:04:30] <AV500> one is not even booted, all electrons like new!
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  399. [15:05:06] <jkridner|work> Still in the same uncertain positions, eh?
  400. [15:05:23] <mru> never observed
  401. [15:06:29] <jkridner|work> then we should know exactly where they are.
  402. [15:06:45] <AV500> yes, on my desk
  403. [15:07:27] <mru> if we know exactly where they are, they could be moving very fast...
  404. [15:07:39] <mru> AV500: are you sure they're still on your desk?
  405. [15:07:47] <AV500> hmm, the board does feel warm :-)
  406. [15:07:56] <AV500> I guess they run in circles...
  407. [15:08:02] <jkridner|work> they could be half-way across the universe. oh, wait, are they back?
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  424. [15:50:49] <Carlm> this might be a stupid question, im using angstrom base, theres no cron tried a opkg install cron but theres no cron package for the beagle it seems, is their an alternative?
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  426. [15:59:23] <eFfeM> Carlm: there is a package that exports cron, i have it on my backup image
  427. [16:03:58] <eFfeM> Carlm: i looked in the dev tree, there is a package cron, but it is indeed not in the angstrom feed
  428. [16:04:34] <Carlm> :(
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  430. [16:05:07] <eFfeM> maybe there is a busybox-cron
  431. [16:05:44] <Carlm> there is but, the busybox in the angstrom feed doesnt have it
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  433. [16:06:57] <eFfeM> how urgent do you need it ?
  434. [16:07:45] <Carlm> i can wait....
  435. [16:09:28] <Carlm> might be easier to make my own simple scheduler, I just need my application called every hour. wanted to make sure i wasnt being daft and had missed it. i just assumed it would be there
  436. [16:09:41] <eFfeM> i added cron to the list, but it still need to be build
  437. [16:10:14] <Carlm> thanks
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  439. [16:10:30] <Crofton|work> vixie cron?
  440. [16:10:33] <Carlm> so will that appear on the angstrom feed list eventually then
  441. [16:11:13] <eFfeM> yes, but i decided to lend you a hand: http://filebin.ca/cbjyac/cron_3.0pl1-r8.1_armv7a.ipk
  442. [16:11:53] <eFfeM> you can dl to your beagle and install with opkg install cron_3.0pl1-r8.1_armv7a.ipk
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  444. [16:13:33] <Carlm> perfect thanks ! :D
  445. [16:15:19] <eFfeM> Carlm: np
  446. [16:15:22] <eFfeM> my pleasure
  447. [16:15:39] * eFfeM wonders why OE has a package cdrtools-native, but no package cdrtools
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  457. [16:45:13] <koen> eFfeM: to create livecds
  458. [16:45:39] <Qball> hi all
  459. [16:46:00] <Qball> anybody here knows about tweaking usb bandwidth allocation?
  460. [16:48:04] <VVeIrD> damn.. i can't get my usb working..
  461. [16:48:23] <VVeIrD> tried shortening pins 4/5 with a screwdriver..
  462. [16:48:28] <VVeIrD> but still nothing
  463. [16:48:39] <VVeIrD> ( held it on the pins while booting )
  464. [16:49:03] <VVeIrD> still no reaction
  465. [16:49:21] <Qball> why not buy the right cable?
  466. [16:49:32] <mru> Qball: ever tried to buy one?
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  468. [16:49:41] <VVeIrD> pfft ;)
  469. [16:49:56] <Qball> mru: yes
  470. [16:50:00] <VVeIrD> no stores around
  471. [16:50:04] <Qball> I have one
  472. [16:50:14] <Qball> local "hasan" computer store had them
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  476. [16:50:56] <VVeIrD> what is supposed to happen, if 4/5 not short?
  477. [16:51:07] <VVeIrD> should devices still get power?
  478. [16:51:14] <VVeIrD> if so, this does not happen at all..
  479. [16:51:16] <AV500> power?
  480. [16:51:32] <AV500> if you short 4/5 you want to be host, in this case you cannot provide power over usb
  481. [16:51:47] <VVeIrD> i proviode power via dc
  482. [16:51:49] <AV500> i mean to the BB
  483. [16:51:57] <VVeIrD> not via usb
  484. [16:52:01] <AV500> VVeIrD: ok, understand
  485. [16:52:15] <VVeIrD> i mean, power to the connected device FROM bb
  486. [16:52:16] <_boto> i have found a solution for the memory problem
  487. [16:52:18] <AV500> BB can only provide a little power, best is to use a powered HUB
  488. [16:52:23] <AV500> _boto: tell us
  489. [16:52:26] <VVeIrD> i know..
  490. [16:52:28] <AV500> killall -9 firefoy
  491. [16:52:31] <AV500> killall -9 firefox
  492. [16:52:34] <VVeIrD> but i want to see something happening at least..
  493. [16:52:45] <AV500> kernel logs should show a hub
  494. [16:52:54] <_boto> i have just increased the min_free_kbytes
  495. [16:52:55] <VVeIrD> if i connect a usb-stick, nothing happens at all ( has a led to indicate connection )
  496. [16:53:09] <_boto> in /proc/sys/vm
  497. [16:53:11] <VVeIrD> if so, this does not happen @ log
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  499. [16:53:26] <_boto> now there is more reserved memory for networking traffic
  500. [16:53:34] <AV500> _boto: ok
  501. [16:53:59] <_boto> i took a value of 10000
  502. [16:54:05] <_boto> before it was 1442
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  504. [16:55:49] <VVeIrD> if i connect a powered usb-hub ( w/o shortened pins ), should the kernel find connected devices like a usb-stick ?
  505. [16:56:09] <VVeIrD> or is this not possible in non-host mode?
  506. [16:56:21] <VVeIrD> ( im quite unfamilliar with usb )
  507. [16:56:25] <AV500> no, you have to be in host mode
  508. [16:56:32] <VVeIrD> ok..
  509. [16:56:34] <AV500> so ,right cable or 4/5 short
  510. [16:57:10] <VVeIrD> k thx
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  512. [16:57:14] <VVeIrD> ill continue trying
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  514. [17:03:09] <Qball> what are these errors:
  515. [17:03:09] <Qball> what are these errors: omap-dss DISPC error: dispc irq error status 0040
  516. [17:03:12] <Qball> omap-dss DISPC error: dispc irq error status 00c2
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  518. [17:04:19] <AV500> Qball: most likely your DSS config is "out of range"
  519. [17:04:36] <Qball> how to fix it?
  520. [17:05:25] <Qball> I am not using X or anything
  521. [17:06:09] <Qball> I am the fb I guess
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  523. [17:06:29] <AV500> Qball: you are the fb, cool :-)
  524. [17:06:41] <AV500> Qball: I cannot say from here
  525. [17:06:52] <Qball> damn
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  530. [17:06:55] <Qball> stupid typos
  531. [17:07:14] <Qball> AV500: when it happens my soundcards "crackles"
  532. [17:07:18] <Qball> (usb card)
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  534. [17:07:40] <eFfeM> koen i was just curious why cdrtools was missing, it used to exist in the past, 100% sure I used it on nslu2
  535. [17:08:25] <AV500> Qball: what mode do you run fb in?
  536. [17:08:29] <dev_543> Hey guys. I'm trying to mount a NFS export onto my beagle, I've enabled all the options in the kernel for NFS client but the mount fails with "missing codepage or helper program..."
  537. [17:08:32] <AV500> res, bpp etc..?
  538. [17:08:47] <Qball> AV500: 1280x720 or something like that
  539. [17:09:00] <AV500> and it does work?
  540. [17:09:02] <dev_543> I've got wireshark running and I can see it doesn't sent any traffic to my Linux PC so it's not the server
  541. [17:09:06] <Qball> it only happens when I have usb 2.0 card attached
  542. [17:09:11] <Qball> AV500: tested it working before yes
  543. [17:09:17] <AV500> what BPP?
  544. [17:09:22] <Qball> 24 60Hz
  545. [17:09:28] <Qball> I think
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  547. [17:09:44] <Qball> 1280x720@60
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  549. [17:09:57] <AV500> yes, this works
  550. [17:10:15] <AV500> it happens with card just attached or playing?
  551. [17:10:16] <dev_543> I've not had problems with NFS on other embedded systems am at a loss what to do next :(
  552. [17:10:17] <Qball> usb 2.0 network card seems to be the issue.. with a 1.0 it is lot less
  553. [17:10:24] <Qball> playing
  554. [17:10:28] <Qball> audio from network to usb soundcard
  555. [17:10:31] <eFfeM> Qball: on 2.6.28?
  556. [17:10:40] * mckoan is now known as mckoan|away
  557. [17:10:52] <AV500> hmm, it would mean that somehos the DSS does not get enough mem bandwidth to do it's job
  558. [17:10:53] <eFfeM> Qball: that was related to 1280x720@60
  559. [17:11:07] <VVeIrD> ok.. now i used a knife to shorten the pins. The usb-hub is now powered by the bb, but still no reaction on added devices..
  560. [17:11:18] <AV500> but I doubt you can generate that much mem BW with networking and audio
  561. [17:11:19] <Qball> eFfeM: yeah, OE build from 2 days ago
  562. [17:11:37] <AV500> VVeIrD: do not power from the BB, use a power supply to the hub
  563. [17:11:40] <Qball> AV500: well if I use mii-tool to set it to 10mbit I still have it
  564. [17:11:48] <AV500> yes and this is strange
  565. [17:11:52] <eFfeM> on a monitor or a tv ?
  566. [17:12:23] <eFfeM> Qball: what cmd line did you boot with (the video part)
  567. [17:12:29] <VVeIrD> AV500: i did this only to see if anything happens at all..
  568. [17:12:37] <VVeIrD> i do power the hub afterwards..
  569. [17:12:41] <Qball> omapfb.video_mode=1280x720MR-24@60
  570. [17:12:41] <AV500> VVeIrD: ok
  571. [17:12:51] <Qball> anyway I could ditch that
  572. [17:12:56] <Qball> as I am not planning to use X
  573. [17:12:59] <Qball> or the video out
  574. [17:13:00] <dev_543> hmm, strace shows it trying to run /sbin/mount.nfs which doesn't exist. I didn't know it was required :/
  575. [17:13:05] <eFfeM> Qball: monitor or tv ?
  576. [17:13:10] <AV500> Qball: it should still work
  577. [17:13:18] <eFfeM> thought i tried that but that it did not work with my tv
  578. [17:13:18] <Qball> X works fine
  579. [17:13:23] <Qball> just sound crackles
  580. [17:13:28] <eFfeM> the R seems to be the problem
  581. [17:13:39] <Qball> it works on both samsung monitor as philips full hd tv
  582. [17:14:01] <Qball> anyway be back later
  583. [17:14:04] <Qball> food time
  584. [17:14:18] <AV500> chew slowly
  585. [17:14:28] <eFfeM> Qball: enjoy your meal will try on tv later on
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  593. [17:38:06] <Qball> hmm
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  599. [17:50:55] <dev_543> Strangle, getting the beagle to boot over NFS seems easier then mounting a NFS export from a running system
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  601. [17:51:15] <dev_543> nvm, it's what I wanted to do :)
  602. [17:52:23] <mru> dev_543: says who? adventure runs perfectly on mine
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  604. [17:53:27] <Qball> mount -t nfs <ip>:<mount> <mount poinrt>
  605. [17:53:28] <dev_543> I was trying to do mount -f nfs ... and it just kept giving me an error
  606. [17:53:33] <Qball> works fine here
  607. [17:53:38] <Qball> install the nfs-utils-client
  608. [17:53:38] <dev_543> Yep, that's what I did
  609. [17:53:44] <Qball> or how it is calle
  610. [17:53:45] <Qball> d
  611. [17:54:00] <dev_543> Ah, that might be missing from the demo-image
  612. [17:54:08] <Qball> nfs-utils-client - 1.1.2-2.1 - userspace utilities for kernel nfs
  613. [17:54:34] <dev_543> I thought all you need was the kernel to be configured for NFS support
  614. [17:54:48] <dev_543> and mount to support NFS of course
  615. [17:56:00] <dev_543> Have to confess that up till now I've always used buildroot as the systems I've been working on are normally "smaller"
  616. [17:56:47] <Qball> I have a console-image here.. 68mb.. works fine
  617. [17:57:30] <mru> dev_543: sorry, wrong window, wrong nick...
  618. [17:57:36] * vlad is now known as vlad_
  619. [17:57:56] <dev_543> mru, np :)
  620. [17:58:33] <dev_543> Systems where you only have 32MB flash if your luckily :)
  621. [17:59:23] <dev_543> And as I mainly did kernel development I was only interested in building a few simple apps to test my drivers
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  623. [18:00:07] <dev_543> I think OE is also getting more user friendly :)
  624. [18:01:03] * Qball hates being so busy.. got some 1/2 done packages for it.
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  628. [18:09:50] * koen is getting annoyed by the fact he can't type properly on his old keyboard anymore
  629. [18:10:20] <AV500> koen: new fingers?
  630. [18:10:22] <mru> koen: so get a new one
  631. [18:11:18] <Qball> hmm if I do halt on my machine, the reset button does not work (after power down messagE)
  632. [18:11:34] <mru> Qball: yes, that's a known bug
  633. [18:11:46] <Qball> so not me, that is good
  634. [18:12:52] <eFfeM> koen, get a kbd like the one florian has and showed at fosdem
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  636. [18:13:19] <mru> eFfeM: that's a great gadget but not very good for typing
  637. [18:13:21] <AV500> eFfeM: I doubt it is RSI friendly to pound on a hard surface all the time :-)
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  639. [18:13:38] <mru> AV500: no need to pound
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  641. [18:14:03] <AV500> you have not seen me type :-)
  642. [18:14:07] <eFfeM> i'm pretty sure it isn't
  643. [18:14:33] <eFfeM> silly q of the day: if I do an opkg install gpsd why does it then install fso-gpsd and not gpsd
  644. [18:16:04] <Qball> AV500: you need one of those old fashion, kill while typing e-mail, ibm keyboard
  645. [18:17:00] <koen> mru: it's built in to my old laptop :)
  646. [18:17:20] <eFfeM> no takers for the silly Q of the day ?
  647. [18:18:15] <eFfeM> "Seems I've found a replace gpsd gpsd
  648. [18:18:15] <eFfeM> "
  649. [18:18:17] <koen> eFfeM: the fso-gpsd is due the teh fso people having no clue about RREPLACES and QA
  650. [18:18:46] <eFfeM> koen, is fso-gpsd compatible with gpsd ?
  651. [18:19:05] <koen> if it has 'fso' or 'openmoko' in it's name, it's made out of turds and gaffa tape
  652. [18:19:20] <koen> eFfeM: the dbus interface should be compatible
  653. [18:19:22] <eFfeM> not even duct tape ? bleh
  654. [18:19:38] <koen> eFfeM: but you want to use gypsy or geoclue for positioning :)
  655. [18:19:48] <koen> gaffa > ductape
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  657. [18:20:09] <eFfeM> gpsd is needed to connect to e.g navit
  658. [18:20:16] <eFfeM> and probably also for gpsdrive
  659. [18:20:33] <eFfeM> just wanted to see if i could get my bt gps thing runnign on bealge
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  661. [18:22:37] <eFfeM> koen btw trying to make cdrtools for target but for some reason the install dir remains empty and make install seems not to be done, exe's do stay in the src dir, any idea what could be wrong
  662. [18:23:38] <koen> empty make install rule?
  663. [18:23:42] <koen> empty do_install in OE?
  664. [18:23:58] <Qball> broken ${DESTDIR} in install target?
  665. [18:24:04] <Qball> in the makefile of cdrtools
  666. [18:24:36] <eFfeM> there is no do_install in the recipe and if I type make install in the target dir something happens
  667. [18:25:04] <koen> do_install() {
  668. [18:25:19] <koen> oe_runmake install DESTDIR="${D}"
  669. [18:25:20] <koen> }
  670. [18:26:26] <eFfeM> koen, will try that, thanks
  671. [18:26:43] * eFfeM bought an external dvd writer today (only eur 10)
  672. [18:26:55] <Qball> those get cheaper by the day
  673. [18:27:00] <Qball> a slimline or not
  674. [18:27:00] <eFfeM> it can accomodate 10 beagles or so
  675. [18:27:04] <eFfeM> nope
  676. [18:27:06] * koen has an external dvd writer attach to the beagle
  677. [18:27:15] <Qball> eFfeM: where?
  678. [18:27:17] <eFfeM> that's why i wanted to have a look at cdrtools
  679. [18:27:20] <koen> buspowered, but for the actual writing you need extra psu
  680. [18:27:29] <eFfeM> Qball: philips staff shop
  681. [18:27:33] <Qball> aah
  682. [18:27:37] <Qball> nice shop
  683. [18:27:46] <Qball> the one in the stadion right
  684. [18:27:50] <eFfeM> yes
  685. [18:28:28] <Qball> been there once with my uncle
  686. [18:28:29] <Qball> years ago
  687. [18:28:37] <Qball> when I was a little boy..
  688. [18:29:28] <eFfeM> they were getting rid of some old stuff and stuff with damaged packaging etc
  689. [18:29:37] <Qball> always a good time to shop
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  691. [18:35:09] <eFfeM> also trying to get ampache running on beagle, but that is even a bigger challenge, it uses php+sql and currently php is compiled without php support
  692. [18:42:16] <Qball> hmm ampache
  693. [18:42:22] <Qball> ask vollmer.
  694. [18:43:30] <Qball> if it is to heavy maybe he can make a "light" mode
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  696. [18:49:14] <eFfeM> qball, first need to get a php with iconv and mysql
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  705. [19:31:46] <eFfeM> hm, what is wrong if I get an error "Architecture did not match (40 to 3)" during QA
  706. [19:32:14] <koen> most likely it's an x86 binary
  707. [19:32:25] <eFfeM> guess so
  708. [19:32:26] <koen> see classes/insane.bbclass what '3' is
  709. [19:32:40] <koen> "i386": ( 3, 0, 0, True, True),
  710. [19:32:44] <koen> indeed, x86
  711. [19:37:41] <eFfeM> the other thing is that it complains that /usr/man/man8/mkisofs.8 etc is not shipped in any package, but I did a FILES_#{PN}-doc += ${mandir}/man8/mkisofs.8
  712. [19:38:45] <koen> ${mandir} is /usr/share/man
  713. [19:38:51] <eFfeM> ah
  714. [19:39:00] * koen just checked bitbake.conf
  715. [19:39:38] <eFfeM> can I add a dir? e.g. += "/usr/man" ?
  716. [19:39:51] <koen> yes
  717. [19:39:57] <eFfeM> nice
  718. [19:40:17] <koen> although do_install_append() { mv ${D}/usr/man* ${D}${datdir}} would be better
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  720. [19:41:44] <eFfeM> does it then package automatically ?
  721. [19:48:13] <eFfeM> hm. giving up on cdrtools, if anyone wants to give it a try: here is what I got: http://filebin.ca/wsvkke/cdrtools_2.01.bb
  722. [19:49:55] <koen> if it's in the right dir it will package automagically
  723. [19:50:19] <koen> packaging /usr/man doesn't make sense, since the man package will look in /usr/share/man
  724. [19:50:45] <eFfeM> well i don't manage to get it compiled with the cross cc compiler, added the mv at the end of do_install, but to no avail
  725. [19:50:49] * eFfeM feels stuck
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  734. [20:29:16] <mib_tduxg3> hi ! I need to use an incremental encoder with my beagleboard... do I have to create a kernel modul or a kid of driver to handle interrupts ?
  735. [20:29:48] <mib_tduxg3> (kind of driver....)
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  737. [20:31:32] <fayce> guys ?
  738. [20:32:30] <harbaum> yes, only the kernel can handle interrupts
  739. [20:33:25] <harbaum> although you can have a generic driver that does exactly that: forwarding interrupts as signals to some user space app
  740. [20:34:00] <harbaum> but i don't think something like that exists (and would make much sense since you usually want to do more than just getting notified of interrupts)
  741. [20:34:33] <fayce> I just need to get notified of interrupts...
  742. [20:34:45] <fayce> so I can increment a value ...
  743. [20:34:55] <fayce> (encoder's Top)
  744. [20:39:18] * koen attempts to read http://www.marvell.com/products/embedded_processors/developer/kirkwood/sheevaplug.jsp
  745. [20:40:24] <pH5> still /.ed?
  746. [20:40:27] * Crofton wonders if the overo build in oe.dev will work ...
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  748. [20:40:44] <koen> Crofton|work: it should
  749. [20:40:48] <koen> the result runs on my overo :)
  750. [20:40:58] <Crofton|work> great :)
  751. [20:41:13] <Crofton|work> I am going to test in a bit
  752. [20:42:50] <koen> Crofton|work: uboot prolly won't work
  753. [20:43:06] <Qball> cool localedef triggers the oomp
  754. [20:43:10] <Crofton|work> I was going to use dl'd u-boot and xloader
  755. [20:44:55] <harbaum> fayce: What kind of hardware is that? _only_ generating interrupts on certain events doesn't make much sense as you can actually miss interrupts
  756. [20:46:02] <harbaum> fayce: if the number of events is important such a hardware should also run a hardware counter, so you can check after you received an irq if you've missed previous ones
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  760. [20:52:21] <fayce> harbaum: the hardware is an incremental encoder ..
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  763. [20:53:44] <fayce> harbaum: do you have any example code for such a need ??
  764. [20:55:43] <fayce> harbaum: and... what is a hardware counter ? do you mean a kind of an external chip that must do the counting operation ?
  765. [20:55:50] <harbaum> you are planning to connect the encoder directly to the irq inputs? You might consider adding a hardware counter for the reasons i told you
  766. [20:55:57] <harbaum> yepp, exactly that
  767. [20:56:33] <harbaum> example code: basically every linux driver example uses interrupts
  768. [20:58:44] <fayce> but they are made for a type of hardware wich interrupts can be not ALL taken in consideration. is that right ?
  769. [20:59:07] <harbaum> ??
  770. [20:59:34] <fayce> humm... it's really hard to explain, i'm french...
  771. [20:59:36] <fayce> :)
  772. [20:59:41] <Qball> that explains
  773. [20:59:53] <fayce> :D
  774. [21:00:02] <harbaum> an interrupt usually only tells you that something happened. E.g. a packet was received by a network card
  775. [21:00:43] <harbaum> but your system may have been processing other interrupts running at higher priority or may even had interrupts completely disabled for some time
  776. [21:01:14] <harbaum> the network card in this example would have buffered as many packets as possible. after receiving the interrupt the driver checks the hardware
  777. [21:01:24] <fayce> and what if I put those interrupt (encoder's ones) at the higher interrupt priority ?
  778. [21:01:31] <harbaum> of the network card to see how many packets actually have been received
  779. [21:01:49] <harbaum> then it's less likely they get missed.
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  781. [21:03:11] <fayce> to tell you everything, it's for a robot... for the motor control system... one wheel round is equal to 2048 tops... if I miss one or two TOPs.. it doesn't really matter for me
  782. [21:03:15] <harbaum> on a small system like the beagle board you may actually have success with your approach. but the more other hardware is involved the more likely you'll run into problems
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  784. [21:04:18] <harbaum> how fast will your wheels turn?
  785. [21:04:32] <fayce> I will not use any other hardware... only I2C (if we can consider it as a hardware)
  786. [21:04:47] <fayce> humm they won't be tooo fast...
  787. [21:05:17] <harbaum> the beagle board already uses interrupt generating hardware internally like the usb controller etc
  788. [21:05:29] <harbaum> cat /proc/interrupts will tell you more
  789. [21:05:31] <fayce> i think 2 - 3 meter /s
  790. [21:05:34] <Qball> still if you loos say 1 interrupts on say left wheel, after 10 meter you might be completely offtrack
  791. [21:06:03] <harbaum> 2-3 m/s is how many wheel rotations per second?
  792. [21:07:01] <fayce> Qball: if I loose 1 interrupt on how many others ? (because if I loose 1 interrupt for every 2048, it won't have a big impact on my robot's precision...)
  793. [21:07:33] <fayce> ~20cm
  794. [21:07:49] <fayce> (and the speed is variable...)
  795. [21:08:03] <harbaum> so you'll have 10-15 wheel turns per second and 2048 interrupts per wheel turn?
  796. [21:09:06] <fayce> sorry .. i thing 2-3 meters /s is too much ... my older robot wasn't so fast...
  797. [21:09:16] <harbaum> this results in 20000-30000 interrupts a second. the pause between two interrupts is then 30-50us
  798. [21:09:41] <fayce> 1meter /s is the maximum I think ...
  799. [21:10:00] <harbaum> that's still 10000 interrupts a second
  800. [21:10:17] <fayce> yes
  801. [21:10:28] <harbaum> meaning that everything blocking interrupt handling for more than 100us will make you loose interrupts
  802. [21:10:37] <fayce> the beagle board with her 600Mhz cannot handle that ?
  803. [21:11:01] <harbaum> e.g. dma transfers block interrupt handling
  804. [21:12:01] <harbaum> and any other interrupt running at higher priority which interrupt service routine runs longer than 100us will also make you miss interrupts
  805. [21:12:33] <harbaum> i don't say it won't work, but you'll really have to make sure nothing blocks your irq processing for more than 100us
  806. [21:13:18] <robclark> harbaum: does linux use FIQ for anything? (does linux mask FIQ?)
  807. [21:13:44] <harbaum> what's fiq?
  808. [21:13:56] <robclark> the ARM's second interrupt line
  809. [21:14:17] <fayce> harbaum: I don't think that i will have process that will make me an interrupt for 100us ...
  810. [21:14:23] <robclark> if linux uses the IRQ vector for everything, then FIQ could be used to do something simple, like if you just need to increment a counter
  811. [21:14:28] <fayce> no DMA ... only I2C who will cause interrupts ...
  812. [21:14:29] <robclark> FIQ == fast interrupt
  813. [21:15:12] <fayce> robclark: and how can I use that FIQ ???
  814. [21:15:28] <robclark> well, depends really on whether linux uses it for anything
  815. [21:15:29] <harbaum> i don't know any details about the beagle board. had mine for a few days only. i just tell you what you have to think about
  816. [21:15:39] <robclark> at a minimum, you would have to do that in kernel space..
  817. [21:16:00] <robclark> but honestly I'm not really sure about the linux part, that is one area I've not looked into
  818. [21:16:29] <robclark> I've used FIQ on a more RTOS sort of OS on ARM (nucleus), where the rest of the system didn't know about (nor mask) IRQ
  819. [21:17:40] <harbaum> you can't install an irq handler in user space as you application may not be active when the interrupt occurs
  820. [21:18:05] <harbaum> it may even be swapped out
  821. [21:19:14] <harbaum> robclark: "cat /proc/interrupts" should tell you which irqs have a driver listening for it
  822. [21:19:25] <fayce> i will check that
  823. [21:20:08] <robclark> well, the ARM itself only (unless you are talking about some of the cortex-M series) only has two interrupt lines into the processor, IRQ and FIQ
  824. [21:20:29] <robclark> you normally have an interrupt controller that muxes all the interrupt srcs into one of those two lines
  825. [21:20:56] <robclark> I'd guess /proc/interrupts is referring to the other side of that interrupt controller, not to IRQ vs FIQ..
  826. [21:23:05] <fayce> hey, there is an interesting line in my cat /proc/interrupts
  827. [21:23:16] <fayce> 95: 4626 INTC gp timer 167: 0 GPIO user 376: 0 twl4030 PwrButton
  828. [21:23:28] <fayce> specially this one :167: 0 GPIO user
  829. [21:24:06] <fayce> I can deduce that there is a driver that is supposed to handle interrupts from the GPIO ?
  830. [21:26:33] <harbaum> Dunno. Maybe there's a driver listening for the user button?
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  833. [21:26:56] <harbaum> That's a question for someone who actually knows the beagle board :-)
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  838. [21:33:03] <mpoullet> hi, can someone helps me to build linux-omap-pm? It still doesn't fetch: http://pastebin.com/d11d39594
  839. [21:33:18] <mpoullet> I'd like to test the 600MHz mode
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  844. [21:41:53] <ZeZu> where the @%*( can i find neon instruction encoding ?
  845. [21:42:07] <ZeZu> other than the Arch. Ref. Manual for cortex-A*
  846. [21:42:34] <jkridner> mpoullet: can you simply perform the git clone, just to be sure it works?
  847. [21:42:43] <ZeZu> google suggests the realview assembler docs, but i've looked and it has mnemonics but no instruction encoding
  848. [21:43:08] <ZeZu> digging through gcc doesn't sound like much fun
  849. [21:43:18] <vlad_> ZeZu: not available other than via an IP agreement with ARM, unfortunately =/
  850. [21:43:21] <mru> ZeZu: most instructions are the same as the public armv5 manual
  851. [21:43:38] <ZeZu> mru, armv5 has neon ?
  852. [21:43:42] <mru> vlad_: that's not true
  853. [21:43:47] <mru> ZeZu: no, not neon
  854. [21:43:52] <mru> didn't know you were doing neon
  855. [21:43:56] <ZeZu> i'm looking for neon now
  856. [21:44:02] <ZeZu> got most of the rest working
  857. [21:44:16] <ZeZu> although i dont handle the S bit for flags yet
  858. [21:44:21] <mpoullet> jkridner: outside oe, I can clone the repo: http://pastebin.com/d480014f
  859. [21:44:49] <ZeZu> and you can specify the shifter to the compiler but i haven't tested it much
  860. [21:44:54] <koen> rm rm DLDIR/*hil* DLDIR/git/*hil* -rf
  861. [21:45:03] <ZeZu> i dont see why it wouldn't work though, just not a great interface
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  863. [21:46:13] <vlad_> ZeZu: what are you working on?
  864. [21:46:29] <ZeZu> vlad_: a dynamic compiler
  865. [21:46:42] <mru> for what?
  866. [21:46:44] <jkridner> mpoullet: what are you building that relies on linux-omap_2.6.28.bb ?
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  868. [21:46:45] <ZeZu> will go in a dreamcast emulator
  869. [21:47:01] <ZeZu> but i will probably release the source to the compiler as well
  870. [21:47:27] <jkridner> mpoullet: you might try generating depends.dot to see why that kernel is being pulled into the build.
  871. [21:47:38] <ZeZu> I dumped thumb, it uses arm code atm
  872. [21:48:14] <ZeZu> but i can't find neon instruction encoding, i know gcc supports it now but i'm almost scared to dig through gcc source and try to decode it
  873. [21:48:38] <ZeZu> and ARM is being awfully slow about deciding whether it wants to give me the cortex-a* ARM manual or not
  874. [21:48:48] * ZeZu checks corp. email again
  875. [21:49:01] <mru> it took me a while to get the manual too
  876. [21:49:11] <mru> and some help from inside
  877. [21:49:34] * ZeZu needs some help from inside, or someone inside the channel ;)
  878. [21:49:47] <mpoullet> koen: I've tried to clean up my DLDIR as you explained, without luck: http://pastebin.com/d5b29296f
  879. [21:50:07] <ZeZu> I could live without the manual, but really .. why should it not be made available to me, if i own one?
  880. [21:50:20] <ZeZu> Or should it be TI's responsibility to provide it ?
  881. [21:51:22] <mpoullet> jkridner: not sure I understand the question, I'd simply like to try the linux-omap-pm because of the clean 600MHz support (cpufreq + core voltage ok)
  882. [21:51:47] <mru> ZeZu: it's up to ARM to provide manuals
  883. [21:52:17] <jkridner> I was just looking for anything oddball in your logs. the fact that something was pulling in dependencies on both kernels looked interesting.
  884. [21:52:54] <ZeZu> I guess, I just dont understand why they aren't made publicly available, and what is with things like Jazelle where its such a big feature, that they dont want you to use
  885. [21:53:40] <mpoullet> jkridner: I think it is only a warning because per default virtual/kernel is provided by linux-omap-2.6.28 and I try to compile another package that provides it too, but I'm not sure
  886. [21:53:45] <mru> jazelle is no more, it's called RCT and ThumbEE now
  887. [21:53:59] <mru> the A8 has no support for directly executing java opcodes
  888. [21:54:06] <ZeZu> i dont want the java bytecode
  889. [21:54:16] <mru> good
  890. [21:54:16] <ZeZu> I want ThumbEE and details
  891. [21:54:24] <mru> then you want the manual...
  892. [21:54:40] <ZeZu> which ... god only knows if i may get it anytime soon
  893. [21:55:05] <ZeZu> and goes back to the original point of them not providing documentation :|
  894. [21:55:16] <mru> there's nothing I can do, I'm afraid
  895. [21:55:27] <ZeZu> i know, i'm just rambling i guess
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  897. [21:55:49] <mru> people that could do something are watching this channel...
  898. [21:55:53] <ZeZu> ARM doesn't even sell the things, they just sell the silicon license
  899. [21:56:17] <ZeZu> so are they really responsible for the developers getting to use it ?
  900. [21:57:05] <ZeZu> mru, i know they are, why i discuss it here, and people seem to know what they are talking about in here ... definitely helpfull
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  902. [21:58:02] <ZeZu> Is anyone familiar with the kernel syscalls and cache flushing btw?
  903. [21:58:21] <ZeZu> mprotect seems to flush it sometimes
  904. [22:02:23] <mru> mprotect is not guaranteed to do what you need
  905. [22:03:47] <ZeZu> i know
  906. [22:04:07] <ZeZu> it is working partially at least
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  908. [22:04:23] <ZeZu> but if i modify what is already written the cache loses sync
  909. [22:04:39] <ZeZu> and i'm worried that quick compiles will not work either
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  918. [22:16:28] <ZeZu> (UNSPEC_VABAL 68)
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  920. [22:17:06] <ZeZu> this looks like gcc greek for opcode encode
  921. [22:17:44] <mru> if you're looking for instruction encodings you should be looking at binutils, not gcc
  922. [22:19:11] <ZeZu> you sir, have a very good point
  923. [22:19:50] <ZeZu> the .md/.ml files i'm looking at, are some of the ugliest things i've ever seen
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  926. [22:20:43] <mru> binutils is very ugly
  927. [22:21:50] <ZeZu> this is gcc but it looks like some kindof auto gen of parts of the assembler
  928. [22:22:14] <ZeZu> i guess i could read up on gcc backend but that would take longer than digging for what i want
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  930. [22:22:29] <mru> gcc uses a machine description file to generate a translator from some intermediate format to target assembler
  931. [22:22:55] <mru> the translation from mnemonics to binary is done by binutils
  932. [22:25:33] <ZeZu> found it
  933. [22:25:42] <ZeZu> arm-dis.c
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  939. [22:38:54] <ianr> hey zezu, you are having trouble getting hold of ARM ARM manual?
  940. [22:39:51] <teamcobra> I'm building a very multimedia-intensive application based around the beagleboard, should I wait for the c2 rev?
  941. [22:40:17] <ali_as> I'm waiting for c2.
  942. [22:40:43] <ianr> happy to try to help, i work for ARM
  943. [22:41:03] <ali_as> ianr, does that apply to anyone else?
  944. [22:41:25] <ianr> yes
  945. [22:41:28] * ogra guesses to anyone working for arm at least :)
  946. [22:41:43] <ianr> hi ogra
  947. [22:41:47] <ogra> hey :)
  948. [22:42:10] <ali_as> I wouldn't mind a copy, I'm interested in assembler optimisation for the A8.
  949. [22:42:33] <ianr> if anyone wants to drop me a note to ian.rickards@arm.com I'll see what strings I can pull
  950. [22:43:07] <Qball> lets spam him
  951. [22:43:21] <ali_as> There is also someone porting RiscOS to the OMAP architecture who's just been refused a v7 based entirely on his email address not belonging to a company.
  952. [22:43:32] * cbrake is now known as cbrake_away
  953. [22:44:50] <ianr> There are some rules being applied here... I will try to lobby anyone's case
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  955. [22:45:42] <ianr> even Qball's :)
  956. [22:47:00] <ali_as> Understood, may I post your address to http://www.riscosopen.org/forum/forums/5/topics/166?page=2 or do you want it kept off forums?
  957. [22:48:08] <ali_as> His name is Jeffrey Lee and last I heard he was having cache setup issues.
  958. [22:49:11] <jld1> Can anyone discuss reducing power consumption on the beagleboard?
  959. [22:50:24] <ianr> ali_as: not sure about posting my email addr widely... Now I know his name I will chase it internally
  960. [22:50:27] <Crofton|work> I didn't have any trouble getting the manual
  961. [22:50:37] <Crofton|work> but I think I used my .com address
  962. [22:52:37] <ali_as> Ian, this feels like an odd situation with ARM keeping the documents under guard, are they going to be made public in any reasonable time frame?
  963. [22:54:57] <Crofton|work> ali_as, it seems like it is hit or miss whether you get the docs easily
  964. [22:55:55] <ianr> not my decision i'm afraid, but I am lobbying for a better & more scalable solution
  965. [22:56:02] <ali_as> I havn't tried yet, since it isn't an issue until C2 is released I only know of Jeffrey's refusal.
  966. [22:57:17] <jld1> Can anyone discuss reducing power consumption on the beagleboard?
  967. [22:58:01] <ali_as> Ian, any effort to get the docs to the community developers much apreciated.
  968. [22:58:23] <Crofton|work> jld1, try the pm kernel
  969. [22:58:32] <mru> or unplug it ;-)
  970. [22:58:37] <jld1> lol
  971. [22:58:52] <mru> or just use green fonts more
  972. [22:58:57] <Crofton|work> also, using coloured text annoys the crap out of us
  973. [22:59:24] <jld1> Cfrofton, can you point me to the pm kernel
  974. [22:59:45] <jld1> sry about the colors
  975. [22:59:49] <ZeZu> ianr: yes, at first i used the wrong email
  976. [22:59:57] <ZeZu> replied w/ company email and reapplied
  977. [23:00:03] <ZeZu> waiting to hear back from them
  978. [23:00:41] <Crofton|work> linux-omap-pm recipe in OE
  979. [23:00:55] <ianr> zezu: drop me a note if it seems to be taking too long
  980. [23:01:02] <jld1> Thanks!
  981. [23:01:16] <ZeZu> will do, thanks :)
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  985. [23:05:42] <ZeZu> email sent
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  988. [23:24:15] <ssvb> ZeZu: have you already checked __clear_cache (__builtin___clear_cache) gcc function? you can also google for it to find more details about the use of self modifying code and jit on arm
  989. [23:25:36] <ssvb> ZeZu: it uses syscall on arm linux, you can disassemble test sample code or check gcc sources or whatever to find out which one of them is used, I don't remember the exact name at the moment
  990. [23:28:23] <ssvb> ZeZu: whatever, I'm not going to bug you any longer regarding this thing, everything is up to you :)
  991. [23:31:26] <ZeZu> ssvb, I haven't checked __clear_cache i will look at that, i did look around on google, there were few thigns about JIT on ARM, one persons test for ffmpeg that doesn't use a working syscall
  992. [23:31:43] <ZeZu> I will take objdump to __clear_cache and see, thanks :)
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  994. [23:35:40] <ssvb> ZeZu: there is a chance that you found my old posts from the time when I also had no clue about how to do this in a correct way ;)
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  996. [23:36:45] <ZeZu> ah, quite possible
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