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IRC Log for 2009-05-22

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[02:19:23] <nwp> Good evening! A newbie question, please.
[02:20:35] <nwp> Are there working Beagle projects that use the DSP core for anything other than media codecs?
[02:21:02] <nwp> I am curious to see how much the DSP side of the chip is being used by the community.
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[02:30:05] <as_leep> nwp, I don't think the media codecs use it yet.
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[02:30:32] <as_leep> Last I remeber I think they were being NEON optimised until better DSP tools came out.
[02:33:49] <nwp> as_leep, interesting! Looking at some amateur Software Defined Radio (SDR) projects, which take two audio inputs, the signal processing parts seem to be do-able in 100-200 Pentium MIPS.
[02:34:44] <nwp> So the ARM side of the OMAP processor on Beagleboard should handle this quite well. But I'm thinking the DSP side would do even better, and allow higher bandwidths.
[02:36:13] <as_leep> People have not been complimentary about the quality of the audio on the board.
[02:37:42] <as_leep> I've not tried it yet, alas I need some sleep, it's past 3am here. I'll look back to see if anyone else had anything to say about the DSP as I'm curious myself.
[02:37:46] <as_leep> Gnite.
[02:38:16] <nwp> Ah, good night.
[02:38:33] <nwp> And thanks for the advice.
[02:38:48] <as_leep> btw, for SDR the audio bandwidth is almost certainly limiting.
[02:39:11] <as_leep> Followed by the heterodyne radio stage.
[02:41:18] <nwp> Google on "amateur SDR" ... Most amateur projects use a simple quadrature mixer to go from RF directly to 0-20 KHz, 2 channels, then use PC sound cards to digitize.
[02:41:31] <muriani> it's possible that a higher-quality USB audio card would assist?
[02:42:15] <nwp> the IF frequency is about 12 KHz. It's a neat trick that limits the bandwidth of the DSP chain, which is okay for ham radio (voice and CW) signals.
[02:42:26] <muriani> my Creative Extigy is being used on my embedded PPC system, alsa supports it quire well.
[02:42:55] <muriani> I'd think any similarly supported quality component would help
[02:44:01] <nwp> There are some "audio" interfaces out there that will digitize more than 100 KHz bandwidth. This translates to 100 KHz radio bandwidth due to 2 input channels in quadrature phase.
[02:44:48] <nwp> Beyond that there are the GnuRadio USRP-style input stages, A/D at 60 to 100 MSPS, then digital downconverter to reasonable baseband bandwidths.
[02:45:29] <nwp> The trouble with the USRP approach is that all the front end hardware costs $700 and up. (Euro 600+ ?)
[02:46:49] <nwp> I'm thinking that Beagleboard plus some "compromise" front end could make a complete general-coverage receiver for perhaps $300 total.
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[02:47:28] <TypoNAM> sounds cool nwp :)
[02:48:33] <nwp> It would be a pretty ambitious project. I notice two profs at the US Naval Academy are trying this. More power to them!
[02:53:55] <nwp> thanks for the info - good night!
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[04:04:34] <bobkatzz> is there an X11 desktop for Angstrom or is it strictly command line?
[04:05:01] <bobkatzz> or is there another "flavor" of Angstrom that has it?
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[04:17:32] <bobkatzz> boink
[04:29:43] <Animule> this jac kadn coke is going down way too fas
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[04:33:51] <LiraNuna> hello,
[04:33:53] <muriani> hehe
[04:33:56] <muriani> they do that
[04:34:05] <LiraNuna> what's the state of OGL ES drivers on the beagle?
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[04:46:29] <bobkatzz> Kentucky
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[04:47:04] <bobkatzz> hey muriani
[04:47:23] <bobkatzz> approaching singularity hehe
[04:48:29] <bobkatzz> last step ---->>> converge distro that support ethernet adapter >><< and distro that supports SDR >>> ---------
[04:49:52] <bobkatzz> they may be mutually exclusive :(
[04:50:24] <bobkatzz> LiraNuna -- sorry can't answer your question - maybe someone else can
[04:50:54] <LiraNuna> I know omap3 has PowerVR SGX, but is it being used?
[04:51:18] <muriani> yes
[04:51:25] <LiraNuna> GPL drivers?
[04:51:46] <muriani> that I'm not sure on, I believe it's a blob?
[04:52:05] <bobkatzz> muriani do you know if there an X11 desktop for Angstrom or is it strictly command line?
[04:52:14] <muriani> there's x11
[04:52:21] <bobkatzz> kewl
[04:52:32] <muriani> most seem to use xfce4 or e17 as the window manager
[04:52:50] <bobkatzz> ok
[04:52:51] <muriani> e17's wonderfully light, and pretty as well
[04:53:31] <muriani> but I'm not sure if there are precompiled binaries of e17. You may have to compile from svn
[04:53:32] <bobkatzz> I did an lxde build of Ubuntu but koen says that fldigi will "run like ass" on it
[04:53:43] <bobkatzz> as in "smell like . . ." hehe
[04:53:46] <muriani> fldigi?
[04:54:02] <muriani> I'm not familiar with that, is it the WM lxde uses?
[04:54:22] <bobkatzz> yeah it's one of the SDR programs that supports my transceiver
[04:54:29] <muriani> ooh
[04:54:59] <bobkatzz> http://www.w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html
[04:55:04] <muriani> yeah, if all else fails, maybe something like fluxbox would be best
[04:55:11] <muriani> something incredibly minimal
[04:55:27] <bobkatzz> http://www.w1hkj.com/images/Ubuntu-3.1.jpg
[04:56:06] <bobkatzz> yeah lxde is really nice and lite but I couldn't get my ehternet to work with it (yet)
[04:56:38] <muriani> lxde shouldn't preclude the ethernet from running, it's just a desktop environment
[04:56:48] <bobkatzz> so I'm going back to Angstrom to get some experience with the ethernet settings and then try again
[04:57:14] <muriani> I'm really tempted to get a beagle long before I should afford one
[04:57:26] <bobkatzz> well it's the Ubuntu then (and my gross lack of knowledge on the subject )
[04:57:40] <muriani> that's possible
[04:57:46] <bobkatzz> you can try Gumstix too they are related
[04:58:08] <bobkatzz> I don't know how much cheaper they are
[04:58:13] <muriani> yeah, but if I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna get the beagle.
[04:58:40] <muriani> it's really just the best bang for the buck, I think
[04:59:16] <muriani> so, that text there, I assume that's auto-decoded cw?
[04:59:40] <bobkatzz> also I couldn't get the screen setting in lxde to change and all my controls ended up off the bottom of the screen - that was not helpful
[04:59:47] <muriani> ew yeha
[05:01:26] <bobkatzz> no it's BPSK31 - if you look in the lower left below the "waterfall" you will see the mode displayed there
[05:02:03] <muriani> I really know nothing about such things so far
[05:02:10] <bobkatzz> PSK31 is really just CW at about 330 baud
[05:02:19] <muriani> ah, hehe
[05:02:34] <muriani> I've hardly even had time to study for my technician's license
[05:02:34] <bobkatzz> then there's PSK68 (I believe) that's faster
[05:03:03] <muriani> new job's quite busy.
[05:03:08] <bobkatzz> then there's Hellschreiber ooooooooooooo - voodoo!
[05:03:19] <bobkatzz> what do you do?
[05:03:39] <bobkatzz> did you tell me already - sorry if you did
[05:03:53] <muriani> I'm a linux server and network admin
[05:03:59] <bobkatzz> I'm all fulla distros and compiling an stuff
[05:04:03] <bobkatzz> kewl
[05:04:13] <muriani> I used to be desktop support... was bored off my ass all the time
[05:04:17] <bobkatzz> then you're a good guy to know hehe
[05:04:39] <muriani> that was when I started looking into radio, right at the end of that
[05:04:41] <bobkatzz> linux is very nice - my kids shamed into leaving MS long ago
[05:04:46] <muriani> hehe
[05:04:52] <muriani> I use MS on my desktop at home
[05:04:59] <muriani> Windows 7 currently
[05:05:01] <bobkatzz> yeah all the digital radio stuff is really bleeding edge now
[05:05:14] <bobkatzz> yeah I have to have it too - but
[05:05:24] <muriani> every other machine I have here in the apartment is linux or BSD.
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[05:05:46] <bobkatzz> I'm actually in Ubuntu right now in VMWare - on my PC running in windoze
[05:05:50] <muriani> hehe
[05:06:02] <muriani> 2 debian, one ubuntu, one FreeBSD
[05:06:03] <bobkatzz> sorry bill
[05:06:09] <bobkatzz> nice
[05:06:17] <bobkatzz> Suse sucks though
[05:06:19] <muriani> one of the debian machines is a little embedded PPC box
[05:06:22] <muriani> yeah
[05:06:35] <bobkatzz> it's the only German thing that I've ever seen not work
[05:06:40] <muriani> haha
[05:06:49] <muriani> I liked SuSE at first
[05:07:04] <bobkatzz> I liked their logo :D
[05:07:04] <muriani> older versions though
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[05:07:19] <muriani> I liked that it came with *everything*
[05:07:44] <bobkatzz> I had to have it on a server my son built for me so that the RAID 5 would work with the chaepo card that was all I could afford
[05:07:57] <muriani> but now, I'm a little more minimalist
[05:07:58] <muriani> hehe
[05:07:59] <muriani> yeah
[05:08:07] <muriani> linux softraid's not too bad
[05:08:15] <bobkatzz> hell mine didn't even have "locate" and other vanilla flavors
[05:08:24] <muriani> I'm using BSD's GEOM softraid on my NAS
[05:08:42] <bobkatzz> don't say that in mixed company hehe
[05:08:51] <muriani> FreeNAS is a pretty slick little NAS setup though.
[05:09:02] <bobkatzz> you'll get your face slapped :)
[05:09:06] <muriani> heh
[05:09:14] <muriani> pfft, I don't care
[05:09:23] <muriani> I use whatever I need to.
[05:10:04] <bobkatzz> I like to say that ham radio is the only pursuit where you can ask a girl "how's the MUF tonight?" and not get your face slapped hehe
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[05:10:26] <bobkatzz> maximum usable frequency
[05:10:29] <muriani> hehe, yeah
[05:10:45] <muriani> anyhoo
[05:10:48] <muriani> I'm headed to bed
[05:11:08] <muriani> last day of work tomoroww before a long weekend :)
[05:11:19] <bobkatzz> yep - me off to baid - got a phone interview tomorrow
[05:11:30] <muriani> good luck!
[05:11:40] <bobkatzz> and then lots of Beagle barking before the weekend
[05:11:44] <bobkatzz> thanks
[05:12:06] <bobkatzz> I'll have to move to Vienna but the money's worth it
[05:12:25] <bobkatzz> Virginia that is, hehe
[05:13:07] <bobkatzz> maybe I can find a place I can put up a 60' tower - yessss!
[05:13:37] <bobkatzz> oh - did I tell you that I picked up a Heathkit SB-101??
[05:14:00] <bobkatzz> AND - - - - power supply!!
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[05:14:29] <bobkatzz> anyway - more on that later - g'night
[05:14:34] <bobkatzz> 73
[05:14:39] <bobkatzz> sk
[05:14:48] <bobkatzz> . .
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[06:13:06] <roshan> hi I have L2 cache disable ...but I want to enable it ......so which boot loader should I use?
[06:13:53] <roshan> i got to know that L2 cache is disable from my kernel print at boot up time
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[07:06:59] <chipperhome> what is the minumum system to run a linux system with a keyboard, mouse, ethernet and display
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[07:23:01] <chipperhome> hi any suggestions on what a minimum linux system with a usb ethernet would look lik
[07:23:03] <chipperhome> like
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[07:31:07] <koen> it would look like a display, keyboard, mouse and ethernet connected to a computer
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[07:31:15] <koen> maybe even using a usb hub
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[08:08:39] <priyanka> is it possible for the v4l2 driver to play an mpeg stream directly on the frame buffer
[08:08:59] <priyanka> i m using the linux-2.6.29 kernel for beagle
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[08:10:51] <maggie> is it possible for the v4l2 driver to play an mpeg stream directly on the frame buffer
[08:10:51] <maggie> <priyanka> i m using the linux-2.6.29 kernel for beagle, i m using the linux-2.6.29 kernel for beagle
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[08:29:05] <AV500> morning
[08:29:23] <mru> morning AV500
[08:30:04] <AV500> dont beat adobe too much, they wont let you into CA :-)
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[08:30:16] <andrevs> morning
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[08:33:21] <wyattwriy> I buy the board,today is come. I want to know,where can I download the circuit
[08:33:43] <AV500> beagleboard.org
[08:34:54] <maggie> is it possible for the v4l2 driver to play an mpeg stream directly on the frame buffer i m using the linux-2.6.29 kernel for beagle, i m using the linux-2.6.29 kernel for beagle
[08:34:58] <mru> AV500: oh, I'm sure they wil
[08:35:01] <wyattwriy> can you give me link?
[08:35:12] <mru> in fact, I'm visiting one of their employees
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[08:39:26] <wyattwriy> If I use HDMI to DVI and DVI to VGA, is this OK?
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[08:44:13] <AV500> maggie: repeating your question all the time does not help
[08:44:41] <maggie> ooh
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[08:45:24] <AV500> the v42 driver does not play mpeg stream, it could maybe display frames
[08:47:10] <maggie> ok..
[08:47:25] <maggie> so it does not have the support for decoding mpeg stream..
[08:47:50] <AV500> V4L2? no
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[08:52:27] <maggie> can i get some sample code for video o/p driver for v4l
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[09:13:24] <mcgeagh> does anyone know if/when the none-beta opengles drivers are gonna be released?
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[09:14:07] <cki> hey all ;]
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[09:39:27] <SplasH> Is it possible to use the beagleboard as an i2c-slave?
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[09:41:54] <maxired> hi everybody
[09:42:40] <maxired> I'm using Angstorm on a 2.6.28 kernel and would like to change the psplash picture
[09:42:57] <maxired> does anybody had ever done this ?
[09:45:40] <florian> maxired: yes this isn't that complicated. look for the examples in the recipes/psplash directory
[09:49:51] <maxired> florian : could you be more explicit ? do I need to recompile psplash ?
[09:50:18] <florian> maxired: yes, the logo is compiled in
[09:52:40] <zumbi> hi - i have also been able to boot angstrom, but how do you attach a keyboard or mouse (input devices) to the beagle?
[09:54:43] <maxired> ->florian ok tanks
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[09:55:09] <florian> zumbi: usb?!
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[09:58:56] <zumbi> florian: i have USB OTG (rev B7)
[09:59:37] <zumbi> right now, board is being powered by the usb connector, can it also be attached an input device (usb hub) ?
[10:01:47] <koen> florian: the logo is now managed with update-alternatives, so adding a new psplash-mylogo recipe is all that's needed
[10:02:05] <koen> florian: that avoid patching psplash_svn with a gazillion overrides
[10:02:21] <mru> zumbi: if your hub violates spec and supplies power to the host, yes
[10:04:29] <florian> zumbi: you can this if you have a usb hub that powers the uplink port as well. i guess that violates the specs but some cheap mini-hubs do this
[10:05:25] <florian> koen: yes... but I guess maxired was searching for a way to do this without compiling
[10:06:09] <SplasH> Is it possible to use the beagleboard as an i2c-slave?
[10:06:27] <zumbi> but my hub has different connector (standard one, i do not recall the exact name) and OTG has one of those mini conectors.. this is a bit confusing
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[10:09:17] <maxired> florian you are right, i'm using a pre-compile angstorm
[10:09:22] <Ohne> hey does anyone know how to connect with the beagel with only a db9m cabel (maybe how to weld it to the board)????
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[10:10:28] <zumbi> Ohne: Beagle (2,3,5) --> DB9 (3,2,5)
[10:10:43] <maxired> ohne you need a null-modem db9m cable
[10:11:08] <Ohne> thx
[10:14:17] <maxired> koen what is the best way to change the psplash logo with recompile the kernel/system ?
[10:14:25] <maxired> *without
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[10:26:25] <zumbi> maxired: update-alternatives ?
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[10:57:59] <hrw> morning
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[11:25:29] <WAHa_06x36> ok, two questions about the audio codec:
[11:25:54] <WAHa_06x36> 1) how do you ensure the left and right channels get to the right place when talking to it?
[11:26:19] <WAHa_06x36> 2) and is there some reason it seems to be sampling at 60 kHz when I tried to configure it to 44.1 kHz?
[11:26:38] <WAHa_06x36> I mean, I could have gotten it wrong, but I didn't think it HAD a 60 kHz mode at all.
[11:27:45] <WAHa_06x36> (just to be clear, I'm hitting the hardware directly, not through linux)
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[11:34:09] <AV500> WAHa_06x36: for the L/R, you send the data in the right order
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[11:50:32] <WAHa_06x36> AV500: I do, but it seems to still keep jumping between channels randomly.
[11:51:01] <WAHa_06x36> AV500: I guess that might be because of issues with the buffer being full.
[11:51:07] <XorA> WAHa_06x36: what platform?
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[11:51:27] <WAHa_06x36> like I said, no platform, I am hitting the hardware directly.
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[11:51:56] <XorA> WAHa_06x36: check make sure the linux driver doesnt manually sync the L/R signal
[11:52:01] <XorA> s3c24xx does
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[11:54:19] <Yurand> I am trying to compile ti-codec-combos in OE and get compile error: can't locate the package 'ti.catalog.arm', does anyone have idea what can be wrong?
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[11:54:55] <koen> Yurand: you'd have to ask in #gst_ti
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[11:55:12] <Yurand> ok, sorry will do that
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[11:55:41] <Crofton|work> koen, I'm testing a revert of the udev update to see if my boot hang goes away
[11:55:48] <WAHa_06x36> XorA: any idea how that would work?
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[11:56:01] <Crofton|work> ppoll appears to not actually be implemented in arm :(
[11:56:01] <XorA> WAHa_06x36: monitor the gpio
[11:56:20] * WAHa_06x36 tried setting the buffer limits to 2 so there'd always be room for two samples, but there still seems to be some kind of race condition somewhere that switches the channels around.
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[12:16:20] <topi_> hello.
[12:16:44] <topi_> can anyone tell me how to make the beagle recognize a newly inserted SD/MMC card? I can't see any switch there to flip a GPIO to notify about the mmc change
[12:17:08] <ali_as> What has your rootfs?
[12:17:30] <topi_> i created a jffs2 on the NAND and tarr'd stuff from the angstrom demo distro there
[12:17:31] <ali_as> And what OS are you using?
[12:17:41] <topi_> it boots ok from there so I don't need MMC for booting any longer
[12:17:48] <ali_as> Cool.
[12:18:04] <topi_> but this was a hardware question. is there any hw switch that is bound to a GPIO to notify the kernel about MMC change?
[12:18:06] <ali_as> Does it unpack to ram to run?
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[12:18:44] <ali_as> I suspect there is an IO line that is broken by removing a card.
[12:18:45] <topi_> nope, i just mount jffs2 root from flash
[12:20:08] <topi_> maybe the kernel is just buggy. i'm using 2.6.28 kernel compiled by koen
[12:20:10] <ali_as> Best to chec the schematic.
[12:20:38] <ali_as> Its the sort of thing that would go unnoticed as most people have the rootfs on SD card.
[12:20:58] <topi_> I just bought a 16GB SD card and am anxious to see if it works with beagle or not
[12:21:48] <ali_as> I had a few errors with my sdhc 4G card. That was with the february release.
[12:22:10] <ali_as> Those glitches may have been fixed by now.
[12:26:40] <ali_as> Are you booting the kernel off sd?
[12:27:00] <topi_> no, the kernel comes from the NAND
[12:27:27] <ali_as> Any reason you need to swap in order to access the card then?
[12:27:41] <topi_> i also bought a hdmi->dvi adapter but d'oh, it was of wrong gender! i hate this.
[12:27:55] <topi_> i want to see some video out of the little board!
[12:28:45] <ali_as> Wrong gender?!
[12:29:14] <topi_> yeah. the beagle HDMI output is a female connector, and i bought a HDMI female - DVI male
[12:29:23] <topi_> female-female doesn't match, you know
[12:29:35] <AV500> topi_: not always...
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[12:30:42] <ali_as> I don't understand what that cable could ever be used for.
[12:31:40] <topi_> HDMI? you can drive a DVI monitor with the signal from the HDMI connector.
[12:31:44] <AV500> connect DVI output to HDMI input
[12:31:57] <ali_as> Though I'm surprised the one on the board is called the female.
[12:32:01] <topi_> oh, you meant *my* cable
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[12:32:07] <AV500> e.g. PC to TV
[12:33:23] <ali_as> Ahhh.
[12:35:27] <ali_as> I assumed input and output would use the same connector. Duh!
[12:37:13] <topi_> ok, now the SD card got recognized when i rebooted
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[12:42:31] <SplasH> Is it possible to use the beagleboard as an i2c-slave?
[12:46:30] <AV500> SplasH: yes
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[12:58:05] <SplasH> AV500, ok, where can I find some informations about it? I don't have a Beagleboard yet, but I want to inform me a bit..
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[12:58:59] <AV500> SplasH: I guess nobody did that before, so I doubt there is much info. I am not sure whether the HW I2C can run in slave mode, but you should in any case be able to make one yourself with GIO pins.
[12:59:42] <SplasH> ok, thanks
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[13:12:49] <adj> SplasH: i would imagine omap supports i2c slave mode, but kernel i2c documentation (Documentation/i2c/summary) says:
[13:13:28] <adj> "At this time, Linux only operates I2C (or SMBus) in master mode; you can't use these APIs to make a Linux system behave as a slave/device..."
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[13:15:19] <AV500> adj: yes: "Each multimaster HS I2C controller can be configured to act like a slave or master I2C-compatible device."
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[13:25:10] <topi_> why is the USR0 led blinking regularly?
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[13:25:20] <topi_> USR1 seems to indicate some activity. (usb? mmc?)
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[13:25:41] <Kithera> howdy folks
[13:25:56] <Kithera> I have a side question, not strictly related to the beagle.
[13:26:04] <topi_> shoot
[13:26:15] <muriani> sorry, that's not allowed :p
[13:26:26] <AV500> only one per week!
[13:26:26] <Kithera> I have always planned to put a 20x4 char serial lcd on my beagle.
[13:26:37] <AV500> ah, those were the times
[13:26:50] <topi_> what for? showing uptimes? :)
[13:27:42] <Kithera> But, recently I was reading about Steve Roberts, and his bikes from the 80's http://microship.com/bike/behemoth/index.html
[13:28:05] <Kithera> @topi_ mostly, and mpd info, and home automation status
[13:28:53] <Kithera> And I was wondering if there are any options I have for a "large" text display, could be strictly on serial.
[13:29:19] <AV500> 4x20 is large?
[13:29:19] <Kithera> by large, I mean > 8" with a 40x24 char display or better
[13:30:07] <AV500> IBM selectric?
[13:30:30] <Kithera> and (B), If I got such a display (and assuming I'm quite happy stuck to a linux command line) would it be comprible in terms of price and power.
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[13:32:39] <topi_> Kithera: this guy is crazy.
[13:32:47] <Kithera> any ideas?
[13:33:02] <Kithera> Oh, I know, especially that third bike.
[13:33:27] <koen> eFfeM: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/e7a737e55de2318c40b872ec6011a1f8.png
[13:33:31] <topi_> i'm building my Beagle for my sailing boat, so I guess I'm crazy as well
[13:33:36] <Kithera> And all of that ham equipment
[13:33:46] <Kithera> Then you should look at his newer stuff.
[13:34:00] <Kithera> He traded his bike for a sailboat quite some times ago.
[13:34:48] <topi_> i'm trying to use the Beagle as the central warehouse fo rall sorts of data from different sensors, e.g. sonar, wind, compass
[13:35:19] <topi_> and I have a Nokia N810 that can act as a console via WLAN
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[13:36:18] <Kithera> Very cool.
[13:36:25] <Kithera> Auto sailing.
[13:36:37] <topi_> i still want to install a radar.
[13:36:59] <topi_> i'm looking forward for creating some autopilot software, but i'm not holding my breath. it's a complex task
[13:40:03] <Kithera> There have been a few people who have made completely automated tallships.
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[13:43:20] <topi_> Kithera: i just want a system that is able to send the coordinates every hour to my server at land
[13:43:42] <topi_> satellite data via inmarsat costs around $7 per megabyte
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[13:44:54] <Kithera> If you're talking about that little bit of data, you might be a bit more happy with a terrestrial packet radio.
[13:45:14] <muriani> Aye
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[13:45:45] <Kithera> You'll need a license and a base station, but at least you can push mail and other small packets.
[13:46:07] <muriani> depending on where you are, the license isn't hard to get
[13:46:07] <Kithera> mind you, as far as I know, those units top out at 9600baud.
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[13:51:22] <Kithera> But, back to my display.
[13:51:25] <Kithera> Any ideas?
[13:51:30] <AV500> VT100?
[13:52:27] <Kithera> Close, but I really want something in a lcd.
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[13:54:01] <muriani> I'd set it up as a serial console, if I were to do that.
[13:54:13] <muriani> maybe as output only
[13:54:36] <muriani> but that'd allow me to pipe data from almost anything to it
[13:55:03] <topi_> Kithera: I doubt that the terrestrial packet radio can work from the middle of the Atlantic...
[13:55:23] <Kithera> @muriani, that's the idea
[13:55:26] <AV500> topi_: floating PR nodes, why not :-)
[13:55:35] <topi_> :)
[13:55:49] <Kithera> @topi_ You'd be supprised at the range you can get from those things.
[13:55:53] <topi_> so, does anyone know why these USR0 and USR1 leds blink?
[13:55:54] <muriani> topi_: there's been transatlantic transmissions via packet radio
[13:56:08] <muriani> Kithera: yeah, I figured
[13:56:37] <muriani> really, you just need a decent lcd controller paired with the screen
[13:57:08] <muriani> vt100 would be cool for i/o, but you just want output.
[13:57:34] <muriani> I'd say find an LCD+controller you like, and then hit ebay.
[13:59:06] <Kithera> Everything I'm finding thus far is either small ( 2 or 4 lines, or < 200 pixels square), or little more than a serial<-
[13:59:07] <Foxdie> i'm using qemu-omap3 to simulate the beagle board on qemu - how can I use tftp to transfer files to the guest ?
[13:59:10] <Kithera> >vga convert
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[13:59:38] <muriani> hm.
[13:59:40] <Kithera> From a price/power standpoint, I might as well keep with a standard vga monitor.
[13:59:46] <muriani> really, yeah
[13:59:58] <muriani> LCD's like that get expensive real fast.
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[14:00:14] <muriani> problem is that there's no VGA output on the beagle.
[14:00:56] <Kithera> well, DVI is common enough than that shouldn't be an issue at all
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[14:02:11] <topi_> foxdie: qemu should be able to provide the emulated environment with a eth0 interface, just try dhclient with it
[14:02:21] <muriani> yeah, you generally have to go with a newer monitor, drives the price up a bit
[14:02:34] <Kithera> I guess for unit cost, I just can't get past commodity hardware.
[14:02:40] <Foxdie> oh, ok
[14:02:41] <muriani> yup
[14:02:43] <Foxdie> will try that
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[14:03:08] <Foxdie> should the qemu command be altered for that?
[14:03:26] <topi_> can't remember
[14:04:02] <Kithera> @muriani, Maybe I can get a TRS80 portable and have that as a dump terminal :)
[14:04:09] <muriani> Kithera: hehe
[14:04:13] <Foxdie> usually I call : ./qemu-system-arm -M beagle -mtdblock beagle-nand.bin
[14:04:28] <muriani> find an old TI-85 with the grey link cable
[14:04:44] <muriani> run zterm on that and you'll actually get a full console :p
[14:05:04] <Kithera> That's true, but (A) isn't not
[14:05:37] <Kithera> "large" and (B) it brings back memories of lears from High School calculus class
[14:05:45] <muriani> haha
[14:06:07] <muriani> yeah, but it's cheap and functional
[14:06:24] <muriani> and runs off what, 4AAA batteries?
[14:06:33] * Kithera used that setup with a gender changer and modem to browse the early web
[14:06:37] <Kithera> yep
[14:06:38] <muriani> :)
[14:06:55] <muriani> yeah, I used to dial up shells and IRC with it
[14:07:35] <muriani> I've totally forgotten my old Hayes commands :/
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[14:16:46] <Kithera> Actual I was just joking about it, but a functional TRS-80 model 100 apprently ebays for less than 100
[14:17:11] <Kithera> I wonder if there are any keyboard hacks for it.
[14:17:25] * Kithera really likes IBM model M keyboards
[14:17:56] * AV500 types on an BM model M keyboard
[14:19:36] * Kithera uses a customized unicomp model
[14:20:25] * mru uses a 'das keyboard'
[14:21:05] <Kithera> Yep that is about what I got customized
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[14:23:03] <koen> mru: the one without lettering?
[14:23:07] <mru> koen: the one
[14:23:38] <Kithera> Although mine has enough crud on it, it went from black to dull grey
[14:24:17] <AV500> actually; I could have a grey "das kbd" by removing all the caps from the type M
[14:25:09] * florian doesn't expect to find many friends of Silicon Graphics keyboards here ;)
[14:25:17] <Kithera> It's nice that you have one of the origionals, those are getting hard to find
[14:25:23] <Kithera> @florian, heck no.
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[14:29:07] <recalcati> morning
[14:29:57] * mru used have some DEC keyboards
[14:30:53] <florian> hello recalcati
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[14:32:43] <recalcati> I'm back to develop with omap3503 and dm365. I was on other projects last days
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[14:33:48] <eFfeM> koen, thanks for the pic. looks very nice. Anything special needed to get it running or did it compile out of the box (not sure whether I actually tested wmgui when I looked at the wiimote)
[14:34:07] <koen> eFfeM: it's part of cwiid
[14:34:14] <eFfeM> koen, i know
[14:34:24] <koen> eFfeM: I ran it, put the mote in discoverable mode and *presto*
[14:34:32] <hrw> keyboards...
[14:34:41] <eFfeM> nice, i know i tested it with cmd line but was not sure about the gui part
[14:34:45] <hrw> I use Microsoft Ergonomic 4000
[14:35:06] <eFfeM> mostly sidetracked with all kind of non fun issues last week :-(
[14:35:10] <koen> eFfeM: btw, what's your opinion on adding an extra hd720 mode to modedb.c that uses inverted sync?
[14:35:26] <eFfeM> still working on the frame prototype
[14:35:48] <eFfeM> koen, i would prefer things to be automatic (e.g, based upon edid)
[14:35:53] <koen> eFfeM: so you can do omapfb.mode=dvi:hd720 and omapfb.mode=dvi:hd720ytiralop
[14:36:33] <eFfeM> ytiralop ? is that supposed to be an acronym of somehting?
[14:36:43] <hrw> does someone know how to get information which devnode /dev/root is?
[14:36:59] <eFfeM> hrw: ls -l /dev/root ?
[14:37:07] <hrw> eFfeM: no such file or directory
[14:37:08] <koen> eFfeM: that's 'polarity' inversed :)
[14:37:16] <eFfeM> ah :p
[14:37:29] <koen> eFfeM: since 'i' would get mistaken for interlaced
[14:37:48] <hrw> koen: hd720is
[14:37:58] <hrw> is as "inverted sync"
[14:38:01] <koen> hrw: same problem
[14:38:09] <hrw> so hd720p-is
[14:38:10] <koen> people see 'i' and go crazy
[14:38:18] <eFfeM> hd720invsync
[14:38:35] <hrw> I use 1280x800MR-16@50 iirc
[14:38:35] <eFfeM> hd720psync versus hd720nsync ?
[14:38:41] <koen> interlaced negative vsyncn
[14:38:56] <eFfeM> hrw isn't /dev/root just a symlink to the dev that has the root fs ?
[14:39:16] <eFfeM> can't check
[14:39:28] <hrw> root@bug:~# ls -l /dev/root
[14:39:28] <hrw> ls: cannot access /dev/root: No such file or directory
[14:40:01] <hrw> same on beagleboard
[14:40:02] <eFfeM> koen, wrt hd720: I would prefer an automated mechanism that will allow me to connect to either my monitor or my tv and work with the same u-boot settings
[14:40:04] <koen> root@beagleboard:~# ls /dev/root -l
[14:40:04] <koen> ls: cannot access /dev/root: No such file or directory
[14:40:09] <eFfeM> guess edid would be the solution there
[14:40:16] <koen> eFfeM: most TVs lie about their polarity
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[14:41:02] <eFfeM> koen, you're not telling me the company i work for makes tv's that lie, do you ?
[14:41:18] <eFfeM> if so, I think I'm forced to quit :-)
[14:41:30] <hrw> eFfeM: ;D
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[14:42:11] <eFfeM> the odd thing is that the logo in u-boot seems to work on the tv iirc
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[14:43:57] <eFfeM> what about using the edid info as a starter and allow for a list of extensions. The edid info identifies the device so it should not be that difficult to create an exception table (and fill that as we encounter non-compliant systems)
[14:44:03] <recalcati> eFfeM: I've looked the source of u-boot present on rev B7 . There are video registers set, but there are no comment. Impossible to understand,.
[14:44:13] <koen> eFfeM: well, I'm after a quick fix for now
[14:44:13] <eFfeM> or in your terms: that are lying on their sync
[14:44:27] <koen> adding a new mode is a lot easier than to forward port the edid hack
[14:44:39] <eFfeM> koen, quick fix is additional mode
[14:44:44] <eFfeM> what about hd720-s
[14:44:54] <koen> fine by me
[14:44:54] <eFfeM> that would be -s for inverted sync
[14:45:03] <koen> does anyone have the timings for that?
[14:45:27] <eFfeM> what I had was a patch that toggles some regs
[14:45:36] <eFfeM> but the pastebin is probably expired
[14:45:37] <koen> as in, any volunteers to update http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/recipes/linux/linux-omap-2.6.28/modedb-hd720.patch?id=e1d669119346c6fe36373873ab364716b9a941af to add 2 modes?
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[14:47:32] <eFfeM> koen, the patch I had fiddled with the regs, but can be easily added to the modes
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[14:47:50] <eFfeM> but the stuff is on another system
[14:47:57] * eFfeM is actually triple tasking atm
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[14:48:20] <eFfeM> i *might* have time to look at it in a few hrs, but no promise
[14:48:41] <eFfeM> how urgent do you need this ?
[14:50:42] <eFfeM> afk for a short while (15 minutes or so), but feel free to clutter chat with messages for me :-)
[14:53:35] <recalcati> anyway I saw that u-boot displays correctly the logo on two differents tv (soby,samsung) instead with the kernel I had an horizontal shift of about 82pixel in one tv (I don't remember which one)
[14:55:07] <recalcati> koen: restarting with beagleboard, I update the stable branch and so on?
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[15:00:23] <mib_fnl4vd> hope this isnt a dumb question, but is there a way to get pandora onto a digikey beagleboard?
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[15:09:25] <XorA> mib_fnl4vd: its a dumb question
[15:11:00] <mib_fnl4vd> how so?
[15:12:02] <XorA> just take the packages and install them on Angstrom
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[15:14:02] <mib_fnl4vd> cool, i just bought the beagle, hasnt arrived yet and i just found out about pandora ;-)
[15:16:03] <muriani> yeah, the only major differences are just that the pandora has wifi/bluetooth/keyboard/gamepad/touchscreen/etc all built in already :)
[15:16:16] <muriani> Software wise, they're pretty much identical.
[15:18:37] <mib_fnl4vd> cool, where would i get the packages from, is it built into OE?
[15:18:57] <muriani> well, it's all angstrom
[15:19:10] <muriani> the pandora packages will likely have modules for the extra hardware the pandora has
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[15:19:44] <muriani> you'll probably want to build a normal beagleboard distro, and then fnd out where the pandora software repository is.. I don't know that off hand
[15:19:51] <muriani> although I am interesting in finding out.
[15:28:07] <mib_fnl4vd> yah so am i, quake on a beagleboard would be sweet
[15:28:50] <AV500> is it even published yet?
[15:28:56] <muriani> Well, one of the things I want to do with it is make it a little multi-console emulator machine for the bedroom.
[15:29:19] <muriani> so I can unhook all my old consoles :p
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[15:31:46] <muriani> I'll probably leave the sega CDX hooked up though
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[15:32:36] <cki> and how's the work goin on so far?
[15:35:52] <muriani> hasn't started yet, I don't have a beagle currently :p
[15:36:24] <cki> ...
[15:36:29] <cki> mine is verry strange
[15:36:38] <cki> i can't still get the usb working (the otg)
[15:36:51] <muriani> trying to use it as host?
[15:37:07] <cki> .... (mine was one week ordered before the rev.C) and ofc i didnt knew about the order.. :X
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[15:37:10] <cki> well yes
[15:37:17] <cki> i've tried almost everything
[15:37:29] <muriani> are you using a proper adaper for otg to host?
[15:37:45] <cki> well thats one of the thigs i do suspect...
[15:37:52] <cki> but i've got 4 and 5 pin shorted
[15:37:53] <muriani> I have a cable with the right ends on it here, but it doesn't work as an otg adapter
[15:37:56] <muriani> ah, hm
[15:38:02] <muriani> I think that's what's supposed to do it
[15:38:15] <cki> yup but it doesn't
[15:38:23] <cki> once i don't have any idea how
[15:38:26] <cki> i've got the mouse working
[15:38:29] <muriani> yeah, you'll have to wait for one of the other lurkers here to pop up on that one
[15:38:30] <cki> just plugged only the mouse
[15:38:37] <muriani> ooh
[15:38:37] <cki> and the external power to the board
[15:38:40] <muriani> well, that works then
[15:38:51] <muriani> but the hub you have doesn't work?
[15:38:51] <cki> yup but only once.. :D
[15:38:54] <muriani> hm
[15:39:05] <cki> i've bought 1 expensive hub
[15:39:15] <cki> and 4 more that are less expensive ;]
[15:39:18] <cki> same thing.
[15:39:51] <cki> so for last thing i'll do is to look for otg usb cable somewhere on the internet or mobile phone store (nokia N800 i think will work)
[15:40:28] <cki> even the biggest computer shops in here don't know what is "usb mini-A to A female"
[15:40:43] <cki> they give me f**king mini-B ...
[15:40:50] <cki> i've got a lot mini-Bs ;\
[15:42:25] * mru got the blank stare when asking for an idc to dsub cable
[15:42:34] <AV500> cki: yes, OTG never took off, so a lot people dont know about it
[15:43:02] <cki> well how did they use the usb in the earliest versions anyway? (sorry for the bad english ;] )
[15:43:12] <AV500> who?
[15:43:25] <cki> the owners
[15:43:30] <mru> otg is a late addition to the usb spec
[15:44:10] <AV500> cki: you mean the BB owners? they came here daily asking where to get the mini-A cable :-)
[15:44:19] <cki> :D
[15:44:48] <cki> can't i "emulate" the mini-a with the 4 and the 5th pins?
[15:44:51] <cki> shorted
[15:45:03] <AV500> the whole BB is a scam to sell mini-A, IDC-DSUB and HDMI to DVI cables
[15:45:12] <AV500> cki: yes
[15:45:12] <cki> i knew it.. :d
[15:45:34] <cki> but the mini-b shorted version is not working with me...
[15:45:34] <muriani> hah
[15:45:44] <cki> bought like 6 different hubs :D
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[15:45:59] <AV500> cki: see, it worked
[15:46:08] <cki> cut some adapters to mod
[15:46:27] <cki> so where can i get a mini-A cable? :]
[15:46:28] <AV500> cki: will not work, 5th pin is not in the cable
[15:46:54] <AV500> where are you based?
[15:46:59] <cki> bulgaria.. :X
[15:47:06] <cki> eastern europe ;D
[15:47:35] <cki> anywhere... exept digikey please.. (dont want to pay another 150 bucks for shipping)
[15:47:57] <hrw> cki: get mini-B cable and solder pins 4-5 in miniB connector
[15:48:04] <cki> did that ;]
[15:48:09] <hrw> works here
[15:48:10] <cki> to 3 different adaptors :D
[15:48:38] <AV500> cki: http://trisoft.de/en_tzubehr.htm
[15:48:39] <cki> i'm just goin to look for a mini-A on the internet (because i can't find it in here)
[15:48:50] <cki> ooh
[15:48:55] <cki> thank you very much mate ;]
[15:48:56] <AV500> but shorting 4+5 should work, u sure you counted the right way?
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[15:49:07] <cki> yup ;]
[15:49:11] <cki> even shorted the board one time :D
[15:49:14] <cki> to test
[15:49:19] <muriani> yeah, I've messed that up before :p
[15:49:20] <muriani> oof
[15:49:25] <cki> ?
[15:49:56] <muriani> shorting the board
[15:50:21] <cki> actually i didn't have the balls to short the board so i gave it to a friend of mine who is an engineer
[15:50:46] <cki> and i'm sure he couldn't mess the board ;]
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[15:52:00] <cki> lol this dudes from the "yoss.de" wont ship to bulgaria.. ;D
[15:53:12] <cki> hm the only one cable looking like the usb mini-a was a "Usb Nintendo DS charger" :D
[15:53:28] <AV500> nope
[15:53:37] <cki> i was sure ;]
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[15:54:24] <cki> AV500 what about this one https://serialio.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=456
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[15:56:31] <AV500> cki: yes
[15:56:51] <cki> they want 40$ for shipping.. :X :D
[15:56:55] <cki> i'm going to try ebay
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[15:57:00] <topi_> has anyone started hacking on an ethernet interface for beagle? then it would make for a nice pwr-efficient server, with a suitably sized USB hard drive.
[15:57:24] <Stan-Dave> hi, USB question.
[15:57:57] <Stan-Dave> Occasionally my USB devices just stop responding. Ethernet interface dies (though ifconfig still says it's up), my keyboard and mouse stop responding.
[15:58:05] <Stan-Dave> lsusb says that all devices are still connected.
[15:58:15] <Stan-Dave> there are no messages from dmesg
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[15:58:44] <Stan-Dave> Unplugging my USB hub doesn't change anything: no messages, and lsusb still says everything is connected.
[15:58:50] <topi_> uh, luckily my usb network adapter has been working all day
[15:59:05] <topi_> but then again, it's directly connected to the USBHOST port, not to any usb hub.
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[15:59:19] <Stan-Dave> Does this sound familiar to anyone?
[15:59:58] <Stan-Dave> The only way to get the USB port to start working again is to reset.
[16:01:02] <Stan-Dave> Is there, perhaps, a way to simply reset the USB port? Force it to, I don't know, power down the USB interface or something, and force a redetect/reconnect?
[16:04:26] <AV500> tried to unload all the usb modules?
[16:05:34] <Stan-Dave> "rmmod <ethernet module>" hangs, if that's what you're talking about.
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[16:07:45] <topi_> it's bound to the eth0, that's why it hangs. ifconfig eth0 down first
[16:08:04] <Stan-Dave> ra0, actually. ifconfig ra0 down hangs as well
[16:08:34] <zumbi> hi
[16:08:59] <zumbi> i have bough an adapter from usb to the usb-otg
[16:09:23] <zumbi> now, i power beagle from the plug, and i have attached an usb mouse on the OTG
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[16:09:41] <zumbi> but it does not seem to work (mouse light does not even come on)
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[16:10:19] <topi_> you might need to force the musb to host mode
[16:10:24] <zumbi> it is also not posible to make a hub work on the OTG
[16:10:29] <topi_> there is a sysfs entry for that, i reckon
[16:10:50] <zumbi> i am not using gadget on u-boot
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[16:12:11] <zumbi> /sys/bus/usb/drivers ?
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[16:15:50] <topi_> /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode
[16:16:09] <topi_> echo "host" there and it should work...
[16:19:51] <zumbi> topi_: that did the trick :-D
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[16:34:33] <eFfeM> topi_: zumbi what kernel are you using? I.m using 2.6.29, compiled by myself on april 25, typically I build from the dev head. I do have /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/ but no mode in that "dir" , only modalias and uevent a dir power, and symlinks bus and subsystem
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[16:42:15] <zumbi> eFfeM: i have 2.6.29 compiled 20 May
[16:42:52] <zumbi> eFfeM: i do have /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode on angstrom, but ubuntu just works out-of the box
[16:43:46] <zumbi> when i cat mode, i get a_host on ubuntu rootfs
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[16:44:36] <zumbi> happy weekend ! bye
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[16:47:51] <eFfeM> zumbi: thanks and have a nice weekend
[16:48:03] <eFfeM> did rebuild a few days ago but it is not on the card yet
[16:48:09] <eFfeM> will try that one
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[16:54:28] <koen> heh
[16:54:40] <koen> I was thinking "Oh look, atom devkits"
[16:54:49] <koen> till I saw the $2000 pricetag
[16:56:43] <mru> who cares about atom?
[16:56:46] <mru> it's just x86
[16:57:30] <koen> I still haven't actually used an atom CPU
[16:57:48] <eFfeM> i have an atom devkit, it is called eeepc :p
[16:58:08] <eFfeM> paid only usd 245 or so 1.5 yr ago
[16:58:20] <koen> that's like 5 eurocents
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[16:59:48] <eFfeM> 7 at that time :-)
[16:59:56] <eFfeM> eurocents
[17:00:00] <eFfeM> anyway, boss paid
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[17:24:37] <zumbi> eFfeM: i used rcn-ee patches over omap3 git kernel tree (i think the one at gitorius)
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[17:33:47] <Crofton|work> getting sdr on beagle is an atom killer :)
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[17:34:57] <eFfeM> zumbi: ahhh, shouldn't these in oe? koen? or should the kernel dev recipe be moved to a later git version ?
[17:35:40] <eFfeM> Crofton|work: sdr? does that still exist. ddr is much cheaper. or do you mean somethng else?
[17:35:49] <KosiNuss> Crofton|work: do you mean software defined radio?
[17:35:51] * eFfeM thinks floating point could be more important
[17:36:05] <eFfeM> special drawing rights
[17:38:47] <KosiNuss> oh, i think software defined radio with beagleboard & sdr daughterboard would be very interesting. but its still beyond my possibilities.
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[17:44:30] <Crofton|work> software defined radio
[17:49:25] <eFfeM> would be nice, but isn't that going to be very expensive
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[17:50:01] * eFfeM liked gnu radio until he saw the price tag; a basic set will buy a very nice and very allround receiver
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[17:56:12] <Crofton> eFfeM, you should look at the prices of other stuff in the field :)
[17:57:08] <koen> Crofton: like dandilions and thistles?
[17:58:05] <eFfeM> koen, atom development boards
[17:58:25] <mru> a thistle is certainly more interesting than an atom dev board
[17:58:56] <eFfeM> Crofton, i know, but i consider this as hobbyist stuff and if you want to get started with gnu radio, I think you need at least usd 800 or os
[17:59:53] <koen> that's like 11 eurocents
[18:00:45] <eFfeM> koen do you know anyone in the us who will mail me one for 11 eurocents. to make it more attractive i will try to get cents from 11 different countries :p
[18:01:18] <koen> all this talk about software makes me want to order pizza
[18:01:36] * koen takes a look at http://www.thuisbezorgd.nl/
[18:03:25] <Crofton|work> I do not know what that is, but it looks good
[18:03:57] <koen> Crofton: it translates as "deliveredtoyourhome.nl"
[18:04:15] <koen> put in your postalcode, select restaurant and food, done
[18:06:14] * eFfeM thinks koen is an expert in those things
[18:06:54] <mru> eFfeM: koen is a student, what do you expect?
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[18:11:53] <eFfeM> mru lol
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[18:12:17] <eFfeM> mru i think if he knows urls like that and can drink beer, he is ready to graduate
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[18:28:56] <Crofton> I think XorA|gone is better at beer drinking, well at least rum drinking.
[18:29:36] <koen> Crofton: you should come over, enough rum here :)
[18:30:15] <XorA|gone> we should return to Brussels rum bar
[18:30:26] <Crofton> yes
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[18:32:22] <koen> mru, sakoman & ds2: don't forget to vote at http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/contest#Approved_projects
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[19:10:31] <geckosenator> I havea dilemma
[19:10:40] <geckosenator> I have my pico projector.. and it works great
[19:10:43] <geckosenator> this thing is cool
[19:10:51] <geckosenator> but, I also have a 480x272 psp display
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[19:11:08] <geckosenator> so the issue is, how do I switch between them?
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[19:16:52] <geckosenator> maybe have it boot on one screen, then manuall
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[19:56:54] <geckosenator> I got x running under debian
[19:56:56] <geckosenator> by runnin X
[19:57:09] <geckosenator> but I have no startx, I forget how to set up fwwm
[19:57:28] <elementz> hi all
[19:58:06] <elementz> i was wondering if the beagleboard is capable of decoding 720p video or even 1080p. has it been tried?
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[20:01:31] <geckosenator> elementz: in realtime?
[20:01:42] <geckosenator> I'm going with 480p :-P
[20:02:14] <elementz> hm. so building a media center out of the beagle will be out of the question
[20:02:41] <geckosenator> ?
[20:02:45] <geckosenator> I'm doing it
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[20:06:07] <elementz> geckosenator: nice. but in the long run i'll want something that is capable of hd.
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[20:06:21] <geckosenator> well
[20:06:30] <geckosenator> my projector here is 640x408
[20:06:38] <geckosenator> it gets hot
[20:06:47] <geckosenator> I wonder if I should add a heatsink
[20:08:02] <elementz> what about running the beagle as a server with multiple apps running: eg lightppd, screen, irssi a mail server and a squid proxy at the same time? do you think that would work?
[20:08:33] <elementz> oh, and a media server as well ;-)
[20:09:18] <geckosenator> yes it would work
[20:09:38] <geckosenator> I'm already running sshd screen irssi
[20:09:43] <geckosenator> and other stuff
[20:09:48] <geckosenator> emacspeak works even
[20:09:52] <geckosenator> so I don't need a screen
[20:12:20] <geckosenator> elementz: anyway maybe it can do 720p
[20:12:22] <geckosenator> I haven't tried
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[20:12:59] <elementz> would be great if you could check :)
[20:14:35] <elementz> geckosenator: what about the overall performance of that board? it is really hard to tell from the videos online
[20:14:49] <koen> you won't be able to to 720p with debian
[20:14:53] <koen> you need angstrom for that
[20:15:08] <koen> or any other distro that has the ffmpeg neon bits working
[20:15:17] <elementz> what about gentoo?
[20:15:20] <koen> (which is "none" at the moment)
[20:15:27] <elementz> k
[20:15:55] <_AV500_> koen: neon is on mainline ffmpeg
[20:16:29] <koen> _AV500_: and how many distros for the beagle use a recent enough ffmpeg compiled for neon capable cpus?
[20:16:36] <koen> s/beagle/arm/
[20:17:10] <_AV500_> no idea :-)
[20:17:17] <_AV500_> prolly none :-P
[20:17:29] <koen> _AV500_: angstrom does :)
[20:17:32] <koen> so that's 1 :)
[20:17:41] <_AV500_> mine does too
[20:19:47] <elementz> ok, so 720p is possible. fair enough. so much for graphics. but how about overall performance? could you guys give me some info on your experience?
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[20:21:06] <koen> you get decent performance if you distro has been tweaked for armv7a
[20:21:18] <_AV500_> define "overall performance"
[20:21:34] <_AV500_> mouse cursor moves nicely
[20:21:40] <koen> ram is slow, so if you are IO bound...
[20:22:27] <elementz> well, as stated earlier, i'd like to use the beagle as a home server. multiple apps running but no gui
[20:24:18] <_AV500_> doing what?
[20:24:35] <koen> beagling
[20:24:40] <elementz> ok, maybe it would be easier to put it into terms of an x86 cpu. where would the bb rank amongst those?
[20:24:46] <elementz> lol
[20:24:46] <_AV500_> depends
[20:24:50] <_AV500_> :-)
[20:25:17] <elementz> i guess i'll have to just buy one and find out ;-)
[20:25:29] <muriani> Closest I saw was "a comparably clocked Pentium 3"
[20:25:36] * elementz is hooked anyways
[20:25:40] <elementz> k
[20:25:47] <_AV500_> see, just buy it
[20:26:04] <muriani> which, given what I've seen run on the Beagle (sans DSP acceleration) looks about right
[20:28:18] <elementz> muriani: since the main purpose for the bb will be a server in the beginning, dsp won't be that important. if i see that the box performs well, it would be cool to have it work as a mediacenter.
[20:28:34] <elementz> but i am looking into the xbox as an alternative as well for that purpose
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[20:29:04] <muriani> the xbox (original) works well for video playback as long as it's SD, and not h.264
[20:29:23] <muriani> even SD res h.264 hurts on the xbox
[20:29:29] <elementz> i've just seen that the xbox360 in linux capable
[20:29:41] <elementz> in/is
[20:29:56] <muriani> 360 has a lot more power, but I don't know of any linuxes running on it..
[20:29:58] <elementz> but any cheaper alternative would be very welcome
[20:30:36] <muriani> I've run 720p h.264 on an intel Atom 330 machine, it *seemed* to play well
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[20:30:59] <muriani> but it was anime, so it might have been framedropping and I'd never have known :p
[20:31:08] <elementz> k
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[20:32:13] <elementz> looks good http://www.free60.org/wiki/Main_Page
[20:34:03] <muriani> a decent little Atom box will run you <200USD
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[20:34:48] <elementz> youre probably right
[20:35:16] <muriani> I plan to test the atom capabilities a bit more
[20:35:38] <muriani> this was also using XBMC under windows, I imagine the Linux variant might be a little smoother
[20:36:11] <elementz> probably
[20:36:45] <elementz> ok, so the xbox 360 is 240 EUR here right now. not too bad
[20:36:58] <muriani> but it seems a good solution for basic network video playback and such, fairly inexpensive and quite easy to set up
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[20:37:13] <geckosenator> well the pico projector is really cool
[20:37:17] <muriani> yeah, but the hacking you have to do on the 360 though
[20:37:20] <elementz> yeah
[20:37:21] <geckosenator> I just wish it didnt' dissapate so much heat
[20:37:24] <muriani> and you have to get an older one, most likely
[20:37:36] <elementz> muriani: ebay
[20:37:42] <muriani> right
[20:38:23] <elementz> yeah, the pico is awesome. would be a great project to build a multitouch out of the bb and a pico
[20:39:09] <geckosenator> with a webcam?
[20:39:09] <_AV500_> 720p on the BB works for some MPEG4 content and then you have 0cpu left for sound or other stuff
[20:39:25] <_AV500_> so, to use it as a MC, cound on SD (unless you add the DSP)
[20:39:50] <elementz> sk
[20:39:52] <elementz> k
[20:39:59] <elementz> geckosenator: yeah
[20:40:15] <koen> geckosenator: you can tune down the power sent to the leds
[20:41:15] <geckosenator> yeah I'm trying to figure out how to do it
[20:41:19] <geckosenator> there is a program I need
[20:41:21] <geckosenator> I'm running debian
[20:41:39] <geckosenator> bluetooth keyboard, running mplayer and iceweasel surfing web
[20:41:41] <koen> angstrom has it installed by default in the demo
[20:41:43] <geckosenator> wifi working
[20:42:03] <geckosenator> I'm going to get angstrom again
[20:42:17] <geckosenator> debian has a lot more packages though
[20:42:52] <geckosenator> I'm running on battery power too
[20:42:52] <elementz> has anybody tried gentoo on that box?
[20:43:57] <geckosenator> I'm afraid to try gentoo on the beagle
[20:46:05] <mru> I run gentoo on beagle
[20:47:02] <geckosenator> on an sd card?
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[21:03:08] <geckosenator> hmm
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[21:05:43] <geckosenator> how is there a way to get the pico control app without pulling all of openembedded?
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[21:07:49] <bobkatzz> Whoa!! I'm on BeagleChat with my Beagleboard - YEAAAAAAA!
[21:07:56] <bobkatzz> X11 and all!
[21:08:18] <bobkatzz> a round for the house B^)
[21:09:12] <DJWillis> geckosenator: I have run Gentoo on the Beagle and Pandora off SD, that said, not for long (fairly fixed on OE/Angstrom ;-)).
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[21:10:01] <geckosenator> ok
[21:10:09] <geckosenator> well how do I set the brightness of the pico projector?
[21:10:29] <geckosenator> since I don't have bus3-i2c
[21:10:42] <DJWillis> geckosenator: get me a Pico and I 'promise' to work it out for you ;-)
[21:10:54] <geckosenator> hah
[21:10:57] <geckosenator> sorry no
[21:10:58] <bobkatzz> geckosenator - do you know what linux distro family Angtrom belongs to?
[21:11:30] <geckosenator> bobkatzz: no
[21:11:34] <Crofton|work> Angstrom :)
[21:11:44] <geckosenator> he said angtrom
[21:11:46] <bobkatzz> othanks Crofton
[21:12:02] <geckosenator> well I'm not using angstrom
[21:12:21] <bobkatzz> so if I'm looking for programs then would Debian versions work?
[21:12:37] <geckosenator> well what are the debian versions?
[21:12:56] <geckosenator> I guess no one has ever attempted what I'm doing
[21:13:02] <DJWillis> bobkatzz: family or heritage ;-) - Debian version would work some of the times but what packages do you think your missing from Open Embedded/Angstrom.
[21:13:20] <bobkatzz> say I'm trying to set up hamlib, there are various versions for the falvors of linux
[21:13:30] <bobkatzz> flavors
[21:14:04] <geckosenator> I was using angstrom
[21:14:08] <bobkatzz> ok DJWillis - I need aptitude
[21:14:16] <geckosenator> but I got sick of having to download tarballs and build half the stuff from source
[21:14:20] <geckosenator> since there were no packages for it
[21:14:21] <bobkatzz> for apt-gets (will that work?)
[21:14:25] <bobkatzz> maybe sv
[21:14:36] <bobkatzz> and wget
[21:14:52] <geckosenator> plus my wifi doesn't work in angstrom
[21:15:10] <bobkatzz> none of those work and since I don't have "locate" I haven't found out if they are there but just not in the $PATH
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[21:16:06] <geckosenator> the latest kernel for angstrom I can find a binary for is 2.6.28
[21:16:14] <DJWillis> bobkatzz: ipkg is the package manager for Angstrom and you could use that to install APT but it is of mixed use IMHO ;-)
[21:16:22] <geckosenator> is there a better url than http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
[21:16:25] <geckosenator> for getting the images
[21:16:41] <geckosenator> can I install ipkg under debian?
[21:16:47] <bobkatzz> ipkg it is then tnx
[21:16:55] <bobkatzz> is that resident on Ang?
[21:17:16] <bobkatzz> I don't have any "man" db either
[21:17:25] <muriani> I think ipkg is on angstrom
[21:17:37] <bobkatzz> so at least my son can't say "read the man pages Dad" hehe
[21:17:42] <DJWillis> bobkatzz: it's there by default, try it ;-)
[21:17:43] <muriani> it's used similar to apt, I think
[21:17:54] <muriani> it's been awhile since I've used ipkg
[21:17:57] <bobkatzz> ok I can google the commands
[21:18:00] <DJWillis> geckosenator: under debian ARMEL why not just use APT?
[21:19:08] <bobkatzz> hey muriani - I'm talkin to you from THE DOG - yep the Beagel speaks - ethernet is up and running
[21:19:08] <muriani> if you're running debian, use apt. angstrom, use ipkg. You'll more likely get packages designed for your particular distros that way.
[21:19:15] <muriani> bobkatzz: sweet
[21:19:20] <geckosenator> DJWillis: because I don't have i2c controll
[21:19:31] <geckosenator> DJWillis: I want to talk to the pico
[21:19:35] <muriani> which usb ethernet adapter?
[21:19:44] <geckosenator> apparently it's only been done under angstrom
[21:19:52] <bobkatzz> the Trendnet from RadShack
[21:19:57] <muriani> really?
[21:19:59] <muriani> hm
[21:20:13] <bobkatzz> right outta the box - no drivers and Angstrom found it right away
[21:20:23] <bobkatzz> su-weet
[21:20:33] <muriani> hmm
[21:20:36] <muriani> there's a couple of models
[21:20:47] <muriani> the TU2-ET100 or the TU-ET100C?
[21:20:51] <bobkatzz> it's the TU2-ET200
[21:20:56] <bobkatzz> oops
[21:20:58] <bobkatzz> 100
[21:21:07] <muriani> ok, the *slightly* more expensive one then
[21:21:11] <muriani> $19, not too bad
[21:21:15] <bobkatzz> $25
[21:21:20] <muriani> not where I work :p
[21:21:25] <muriani> http://www.directron.com/tu2et100.html
[21:21:26] <bobkatzz> worht every pfennig
[21:22:00] <bobkatzz> dats da wun!
[21:22:02] <muriani> I get my stuff there because I can just walk back to the warehouse and pick it up, no shipping for me :p
[21:22:27] <bobkatzz> oh kewl - I'll support ya if I can B^)
[21:22:30] <muriani> well sweet then. bookmarking that
[21:23:45] <bobkatzz> jeez my sceen is like 320x400 res ouch (on a HD monitor) any way to change the settings? it said if it used alternaitve refresh setting it could damage my monitor - that's for old CRT's isn't it?
[21:24:11] <bobkatzz> screen
[21:24:35] <bobkatzz> but the tool wouldn't let me do it
[21:24:36] <DJWillis> geckosenator: is there a problem building the picodlp control for Debian from the source at http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/recipes/i2c-tools/picodlp-control?
[21:25:06] <muriani> yeah, that's for old CRTs that'll do that
[21:25:14] <bobkatzz> well I'm just having a fine time anyway just getting out on the innynet :D
[21:25:28] <muriani> most modern LCDs will just throw you an error
[21:25:35] <bobkatzz> so how would I change the settings without the tool?
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[21:26:24] <geckosenator> DJWillis: how do I pull those files?
[21:26:26] <muriani> well, I imagine you need to change omapfb? *looks around for others who've done this*
[21:26:33] <geckosenator> DJWillis: there is no clone url
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[21:26:40] <muriani> and then check the xorg.conf settings?
[21:26:44] <geckosenator> also no makefile
[21:26:59] <muriani> although, xorg may be running generally confless
[21:27:23] <geckosenator> I had to tell it to use fbdev
[21:28:33] <DJWillis> geckosenator: they are in the GIT at git.openembedded.org so you can clone from there.
[21:29:31] <DJWillis> geckosenator: ${CC} -o bus3-i2c *.c ${CFLAGS} ${LDFLAGS}
[21:29:31] <DJWillis> << Not the most complex build ever ;-)
[21:29:37] <geckosenator> ok, I need to figure out how to clone a path
[21:29:40] <geckosenator> but thanks
[21:30:05] <DJWillis> geckosenator: /msg me an email and i'll zip the suckers for you.
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[21:31:55] <bobkatzz> geckosenator - ype its calling for fbdev - whatever that is
[21:32:04] <geckosenator> bobkatzz: did it work?
[21:32:23] <geckosenator> my keyboard can't type ctrl+alt+F1 heh
[21:32:29] <geckosenator> since function keys use another modifier
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[21:32:34] <bobkatzz> i didn't edit it yet - don't know what to set
[21:32:35] <geckosenator> and it can't do more than 3 keys at a time
[21:32:51] <geckosenator> so I override the window manager shortcut to run "chvt -t 1" with alt+F1
[21:32:57] <geckosenator> bobkatzz: let me see
[21:33:27] <geckosenator> bobkatzz: do you have Option "UseFBDev" ?
[21:33:31] <bobkatzz> my arrow keys won't continuously back up hehe spastic
[21:33:36] <rcn-ee> geckosenator, still catching up in the back irc log, are you still trying to use pico control on debian?
[21:33:44] <bobkatzz> in the tool? no
[21:33:51] <geckosenator> bobkatzz: use ^p ^n
[21:33:58] <geckosenator> rcn-ee: I already am
[21:34:03] <geckosenator> rcn-ee: can't set brightness though
[21:34:03] <bobkatzz> ok
[21:34:08] <geckosenator> bobkatzz: in xorg.conf
[21:35:10] <bobkatzz> yeah i looked in there but didn't know what to change
[21:35:25] <geckosenator> bobkatzz: do you have the like "option "UseFBDev"" ?
[21:36:15] <rcn-ee> geckosenator: brightness should be "picodlp-control ledc 0 0 hex(rled) hex(gled) hex(bled)" Assuming you dloaded the picodlp-control script from Angstrom
[21:36:22] <bobkatzz> i'll look . . .
[21:36:58] <geckosenator> rcn-ee: the script is in the openembedded git?
[21:37:06] <bobkatzz> Section "Device" Identifier "Builtin Default fbdev Device 0" Driver "omapfb" EndSection
[21:37:16] <geckosenator> oh, well I used Driver "fbdev"
[21:37:17] <geckosenator> and it works
[21:37:20] <geckosenator> but it might be slower
[21:37:35] <bobkatzz> where would I set that?
[21:37:46] <geckosenator> bobkatzz: change omapfb to fbdev
[21:37:57] <geckosenator> it's annoying since I can see the script in cgit
[21:38:05] <bobkatzz> ok (I backed up xorg.conf just in case, hehe)
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[21:38:28] <geckosenator> rcn-ee: also I don't have "bus3-i2c"
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[21:38:48] <maxired> hi everybody
[21:39:03] <rcn-ee> geckosenator, bu2-i2c builds fine in debian. (that's how i did it for that 3rd pico video running ubuntu)
[21:39:13] <geckosenator> where did you get the source to build it?
[21:39:42] <rcn-ee> just copied from oe git to my svn repo, let me tar up the source and give you a link...
[21:39:47] <DJWillis> geckosenator: give me your email and I will mail you the source from my local GIT checkout.
[21:39:49] <geckosenator> I want to get it from git, but not sure how to clone partal path
[21:40:00] <DJWillis> geckosenator: got a mail ready to send ;-)
[21:40:03] <geckosenator> since I don't have enough harddrive space on either beagle or laptop to clone openembedded
[21:40:11] <maxired> I'm a trying to get javafx running on beagle board. I didn't find anything on the net. did anybody manage that ?
[21:40:13] <geckosenator> DJWillis: /msg DJWillis geckosenator@gmail.com
[21:40:18] <geckosenator> er oops
[21:40:19] <geckosenator> heh
[21:40:26] <DJWillis> oh well, close enough ;-)
[21:40:34] <geckosenator> yeah, and thaks
[21:40:47] <geckosenator> I wonder what would be involved making a debian package
[21:40:47] <DJWillis> sent
[21:40:52] <bobkatzz> do I have to reboot for that to work then?
[21:40:57] <geckosenator> bobkatzz: no
[21:41:09] <geckosenator> someone could host all the beagle specific packages
[21:41:19] <DJWillis> geckosenator: not a lot at all, it's a really simple little app that just needs i2c-tools under the hood.
[21:41:22] <geckosenator> DJWillis: ok I got it
[21:41:30] <bobkatzz> I have my own server and would be happy to host anyhting
[21:41:33] <bobkatzz> anything
[21:41:49] <bobkatzz> it's at goDaddy - dedicated
[21:41:54] <rcn-ee> geckosenator: most is here http://rcn-ee.homeip.net:81/dl/omap/picocontrol/
[21:42:02] <maxired> i actually got javafx and javafxc on my board, but the execution of any javafx programme crash
[21:42:10] <bobkatzz> Fedora core 10 I think
[21:42:42] <rcn-ee> copy it all, then just run the build-*.sh script.. for a quick run...
[21:43:20] <bobkatzz> so geckosenator then how does the screen setting change take place ?
[21:43:25] <geckosenator> thanks
[21:43:30] <geckosenator> bobkatzz: when you restart X
[21:43:53] <bobkatzz> hmmm - it's been a while since I did that (eek!)
[21:44:03] <geckosenator> ice weasel is kind of slow.. but I have RevB with only 128m ram
[21:44:10] <bobkatzz> I'm ashamed
[21:44:13] <bobkatzz> hehe
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[21:47:26] <bobkatzz> ok - I might get lost here for a minute - rebooting X11 tnx (might grab a beer in the interim) tnx 4 help geckosenator
[21:48:02] <geckosenator> ctrl+alt+backspace
[21:48:04] <geckosenator> that does it
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[21:49:42] <geckosenator> too bad my wall is bumpy
[21:49:42] <maxired> so, nobody got on his beagleboard ? to bad :s
[21:49:46] <geckosenator> it's hard to read the picky
[21:50:44] <bobkatzz> hmm - didn't do anything ??
[21:51:47] <geckosenator> what is the problem again?
[21:53:15] <geckosenator> ooh it works!
[21:53:23] <geckosenator> rcn-ee: DJWillis: thanks
[21:53:30] <geckosenator> made bus3-i2c sticky..
[21:53:51] <bobkatzz> hmm ok ctrl+alt+backspace = 0 and c+a+left arrow takes me to another window hehe
[21:54:27] <bobkatzz> c+a+delete asked me if I wanted to log off
[21:54:27] <rcn-ee> geckosenator, good to hear, if you want to play around with python, that unreleased gui is in that directory too..
[21:56:22] <geckosenator> actually
[21:56:32] <DJWillis> geckosenator: glad it's working, the pico is a cool little device.
[21:56:33] <geckosenator> how do I set the leds to different values
[21:56:51] <geckosenator> ./picodlp-control rled 1
[21:56:52] <geckosenator> that works
[21:56:59] <geckosenator> but how to set to 50%
[21:58:19] <rcn-ee> geckosenator, it isn't documented at all (quick hack) but use ledc (led current)
[21:58:26] <geckosenator> oh
[21:58:35] <geckosenator> for all 3?
[21:58:43] <rcn-ee> yeah, all 3 at once: picodlp-control ledc 0 0 hex(rled) hex(gled) hex(bled)
[21:58:54] <rcn-ee> 0xEC is default according to my notes..
[21:59:39] <geckosenator> also my python was in /usr/bin not /bin
[22:00:48] <geckosenator> oh
[22:00:49] <rcn-ee> that might have been ubuntu's method, haven't worked on the script since mid january.. it was just for the 3rd video,
[22:00:54] <geckosenator> the rled just turns it on and off
[22:01:27] <rcn-ee> correct: rled, bled, gled are 0/1 for on and off
[22:01:30] <geckosenator> I'm installing pythontk
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[22:02:27] <geckosenator> well this projector is awesome
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[22:03:30] <rcn-ee> and socket-a heatsinks work great to keep them cool in the lab...
[22:03:49] <geckosenator> oh great
[22:04:00] <geckosenator> I got pythontk installed
[22:04:08] <geckosenator> then subprocess.py isn't found
[22:04:11] <geckosenator> socket-a?
[22:04:19] <geckosenator> is it better to keep the pico cool?
[22:04:59] <rcn-ee> they mostly kept it steady, so i wouldn't bump it after finally getting it focused...
[22:05:20] <geckosenator> well my wall is bumpy
[22:05:25] <geckosenator> so it isn't focused very well
[22:05:27] <geckosenator> but I can read it
[22:05:53] <rcn-ee> that focus knob can be very touchy..
[22:06:19] <geckosenator> do you know what package for python has subprocess.py?
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[22:07:29] <rcn-ee> i don't remember off hand, trying google too...
[22:08:35] <geckosenator> wait nevermind
[22:08:44] <geckosenator> I didn't have the picocontrol program in my path
[22:08:48] <geckosenator> it works now
[22:10:13] <geckosenator> I wonder how much power it actually saves
[22:10:19] <geckosenator> I need to get the pico running off battery
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[22:12:27] <bobcatzz> ok that didn't work - replaced hacked xorg.conf with old one
[22:12:56] <bobcatzz> I got no x11 at all with fbdev
[22:13:13] <bobcatzz> so I'll just have to google it :D
[22:13:18] <muriani> what's your omapfb variable currently set to?
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[22:13:50] <bobcatzz> um - let me see . .
[22:15:31] <bobcatzz> hmm - looking at my terminal on my dev box - with minicom monitoring the boot - there is an error message that says
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[22:15:53] <bobcatzz> Starting GPE display manager: gpe-dm
[22:16:36] <bobcatzz> ipv6 disagrees about version of symbol struct_module
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[22:16:50] <bobcatzz> and that line about 6 times
[22:17:07] <bobcatzz> don't know if that has anything to do with it
[22:17:15] <bobcatzz> back to the conf file then . . .
[22:17:57] <muriani> that's an issue with the ipv6 stack, sounds like
[22:18:02] <muriani> unrelated
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[22:18:36] <geckosenator> my arrow keys work find on framebuffer console, but not in x.. hmm
[22:18:45] <bobcatzz> ok I'm gonna just upload the file since ctl+prscrn not working either hehe
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[22:19:27] <bobcatzz> http://up.widget.mibbit.com/up/vJ5Z16Ei.conf
[22:19:38] <bobcatzz> ok there ya go muriani
[22:19:59] <bobcatzz> or anybody :)
[22:20:09] <bobcatzz> that's xorg.conf
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[22:21:50] <muriani> well, with any normal setup, I'd usually enter some mode lines in the Screen section to define resolution
[22:21:58] <muriani> but that should be defined by omapfb, no?
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[22:22:13] <muriani> I'm not particularly familiar with how it works on the beagle.
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[22:24:56] <bobcatzz> I'm not familiar with how it works anywhere hehe
[22:25:24] <bobcatzz> but i'll research it - thanks for the lead anyway that'll get me there on the right track
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[22:30:10] <bobcatzz> I'm going to teleport over to hamlib (maybe)
[22:31:16] <bobcatzz> am i still here?
[22:31:25] <bobcatzz> yep there I am hehe
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[22:34:10] <muriani> heh
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[22:34:35] <geckosenator> hi
[22:34:54] <muriani> greetings/
[22:34:55] <geckosenator> I'm using irc from beagle on pico
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[22:40:01] <mru> geckosenator: sorry, ran away for a bit... I'm running a cross-compiled gentoo on sd card
[22:40:13] <geckosenator> oh
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[22:40:21] <geckosenator> well adobe is dumb
[22:40:26] <geckosenator> I went to youtube
[22:40:37] <geckosenator> and it said click here to install flash player
[22:40:50] <geckosenator> so I did it, then it tries to install x86 player
[22:41:39] <mru> hehe, what did you expect?
[22:42:06] <geckosenator> to "just work"
[22:42:19] <geckosenator> it should at least not download a file
[22:42:38] <geckosenator> anyway, framebuffer console is great
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[22:52:40] <geckosenator> does anyone know the part # for the power plug to the pico projector?
[22:52:54] <geckosenator> maybe I should just cut and splice with the adapter provided..
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[22:54:59] <bobkatzz> wow! I just emerged from the wormhole over at hamlib hehe
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[23:03:07] <bobkatzz> so evidently there are a bunch of libraries missing on Angstrom that need to be there to make/compile thing (um, like the compiler, hehe) at least that's what it says - it may be that it just can't find them
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[23:28:48] <geckosenator> got my new beagle!!
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[23:28:54] <geckosenator> time to test it
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[23:31:32] <solar> the arm port of flash is in the works by adobe. No idea when it will be ready/usable
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[23:35:08] <geckosenator> it works!
[23:35:13] <geckosenator> perfectly
[23:35:17] <geckosenator> and all my usb is on the host port now, and no issues
[23:35:23] <geckosenator> which I didn't expect
[23:35:38] <geckosenator> anyway, it's a rev C3
[23:35:49] <geckosenator> and there is a BT1 footprint..
[23:35:52] <geckosenator> is that for a battery?
[23:40:32] <geckosenator> hmm
[23:41:21] <geckosenator> oh cool
[23:41:28] <geckosenator> but I have to order one on digikey now
[23:41:36] <geckosenator> that's very useful though
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