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- [00:13:25] <icicled>
anyone know if ssh login has been enabled on the angstrom image found @ http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleboardRevCValidation ?
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- [00:16:31] <ali_as>
If you want angstrom you are probably better using one of koens.
- [00:16:46] <muriani>
aye
- [00:17:33] <icicled>
gotcha
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- [01:59:46] <solar>
beagleboard is a tad too fragile. switching to external power alone does not appear to be enough to keep the board from crashing in times of high demand over the usb interface.
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- [02:08:26] <as_leep>
solar, could the peripheral be trying to exceed the usb spec?
- [02:09:54] <as_leep>
Could the external PSU be inb any way glitchy?
- [02:14:35] <solar>
probably but I don't know the exact specs on the devices I'm connecting to it. An airone usb->eth and a logictech keyboard via a non-powered 4-port usb hub.
- [02:15:06] <solar>
next is to get a power to the hub and verify.
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- [02:18:02] <solar>
but either way. device seems a bit fragile in this respect as I've powered many other devices over usb from the laptop and slaved things off of it w/o crashing.
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- [02:19:41] <davidcb>
laptop should be able to supply about 500ma on the usb port. Beagle is limited to about 100ma
- [02:27:11] <geckosenator>
hi
- [02:27:24] <geckosenator>
solar: is it just your name or do you use solar?
- [02:27:32] <geckosenator>
my beagle computer is solar powered
- [02:27:56] <as_leep>
That's a neet trick, I might steal that idea.
- [02:29:03] <as_leep>
solarbeagle, ecobeagle, beaglewithatan, melanomabeagle. Ok maybe not.
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- [02:41:37] <mib_0sz62u>
dear all, i've got trouble to make my beagleboard dvi port work with eizo l367, it's just no signal output,
- [02:43:55] <mib_0sz62u>
could you please help me find out what's wrong with my display? the lcd and dvi line is ok when plug to my pc.
- [02:45:03] <solar>
geckosenator: yes I also use solar. At the moment it's not.
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- [03:16:15] <ds2>
hmmm
- [03:16:23] <ds2>
<--- does not see crashes that people report
- [03:19:58] <solar>
ds2: what kernel tree do you use? git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tmlind/linux-omap-2.6.git linux-omap-2.6 <-- or another?
- [03:20:57] <ds2>
solar: I use that one but I stay with a good snap shot unless I really need something newer
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- [03:23:31] <ds2>
solar: I noticed you said non powered hub... try a powered hub
- [03:23:57] <ds2>
I always use a power hub and with combo I have ethernet, wifi, keyboard all working at once..
- [03:24:09] <ds2>
both the ethernet and wifi works well enough to download packages
- [03:26:02] <solar>
ds2: would/can you post the kernek.config so I can compare with?
- [03:30:13] <ds2>
one sec
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solar: http://www.hy-research.com/misc/config-ESC
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that's a temp URL so please save a copy off
- [03:36:49] <solar>
ds2: got it. thanks
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- [08:57:20] <koen>
raster: is there an shiny efl frontend for gphoto2?
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- [08:58:50] <suri>
any android users with beagle..
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- [09:02:23] <raster>
koen: nups!
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- [09:05:48] <hektor2k>
hi all, i wanted to test video playback on beagle is there a good howto?
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- [09:15:56] <rupeshgujare>
suri: yup
- [09:18:01] <bisco>
Are there any positive experiences regarding mythtv frontend?
- [09:20:02] <bisco>
I can run frontend only at 800x600
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- [10:02:44] <koen>
raster: hows' the new snapshot coming along?
- [10:07:10] <raster>
koen: its note
- [10:07:13] <raster>
not
- [10:07:16] <raster>
i'm too busy
- [10:07:20] <raster>
fsoshrudcon
- [10:07:23] <raster>
travelling
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- [10:26:24] <br48>
does anyone got a beagle with lcd and touch interface?
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- [11:01:30] <raster>
sakoman: BOO!
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- [12:07:01] <jkridner|work>
good morning all
- [12:07:11] <koen>
hey jkridner|work
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- [12:09:34] <ldesnogu_>
morning
- [12:10:11] <Crofton|work>
anyone real familar with /dev/mem here?
- [12:10:46] <Crofton|work>
if I open /dev/mem with O_SYNC, does that force a cache flush after every write into the mmaped address space?
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- [12:11:44] <ldesnogu_>
hum doesn't O_SYNC rather mean that all accesses to /dev/mem will be uncached?
- [12:11:59] <Crofton|work>
I'm not sure
- [12:12:17] <Crofton|work>
I'm trying to learn some stuff :)
- [12:12:51] <Crofton|work>
so that means it will just write straight through the cache?
- [12:13:04] <ldesnogu_>
you could try to run two processes; one writes to /dev/mem and check what the other reads
- [12:13:20] <ldesnogu_>
then mmap with and without O_SYNC to see if the behaviour changes
- [12:13:41] <ldesnogu_>
Crofton|work, yes uncached would mean that writes directly go to memory
- [12:14:01] <Crofton|work>
I'm looking over another guys work :)
- [12:14:13] <ldesnogu_>
OTOH on ARM uncached normal memory still uses the write buffer
- [12:14:14] <Crofton|work>
how bad of a perfomance hit is this?
- [12:14:18] <ldesnogu_>
big
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- [12:14:38] <Crofton|work>
the particular case is on a ppc in an fpga
- [12:14:49] <ldesnogu_>
oh I don't know anything about ppc :)
- [12:14:54] <Crofton|work>
but, I will be very interested in the arm case in a few months :)
- [12:14:59] <ldesnogu_>
I guess that's a virtex
- [12:15:02] <Crofton|work>
yeah
- [12:15:29] <ldesnogu_>
do you really need coherency ?
- [12:15:34] <Crofton|work>
I'm going to be interested in the case where the fpga is on the gpmc controller ...
- [12:15:47] <ldesnogu_>
oh that's IO stuff then
- [12:15:52] <Crofton|work>
well, in this case, he is writing to a fifo to stream data into the fpga
- [12:16:21] <ldesnogu_>
wouldn't it be better to have a dedicated driver instead of using /dev/mem?
- [12:16:26] <Crofton|work>
yes :)
- [12:16:29] <ldesnogu_>
:)
- [12:16:39] <Crofton|work>
I know this and you know this
- [12:16:59] <Crofton|work>
I am trying to figure out how to explain this without screwing up a guys MS defence
- [12:17:16] <ldesnogu_>
MS as in Microsoft?
- [12:17:24] <Crofton|work>
Master of Science
- [12:17:27] <ldesnogu_>
oh :)
- [12:17:35] <Crofton|work>
poor guy has been working without good supervision
- [12:18:03] <Crofton|work>
thus the mmap'd driver using polling to see when data is available :(
- [12:18:08] <ldesnogu_>
point him to http://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/
- [12:18:56] <Crofton|work>
heh
- [12:19:08] <Crofton|work>
yeah
- [12:19:13] <Crofton|work>
it is kind of late
- [12:19:38] <Crofton|work>
I need to make sure I can ask some really good questions :)
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- [12:34:24] <Crofton>
koen, look for Bill Stone's talk
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- [12:39:08] <geckosenator>
koen: crap. now I'm watching it
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- [12:40:29] <koen>
geckosenator: :)
- [12:41:18] <koen>
Crofton: the caving one?
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- [12:43:54] <Crofton|work>
yeah
- [12:43:59] <Crofton|work>
he is a bit nuts
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- [12:49:58] <Crofton|work>
koen, in the bad news department, the beagle is booting on the older udev :(
- [12:50:05] <Crofton|work>
just caught that
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- [12:52:58] <Toast>
hi
- [12:54:58] <Toast>
Has somebody an experience how big the power consumption of the beagleboard is with an usb wlan-stick and an usb webcam connected?
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- [12:57:09] <geckosenator>
Toast: yes
- [12:57:27] <geckosenator>
Toast: http://digitalsurveyinstruments.com/beagleperiphials/solarcomputer/index.htm
- [12:57:37] <geckosenator>
scroll down to bottom for power consumption
- [12:57:52] <geckosenator>
don't have a webcam but they vary widely depending on type
- [12:58:08] <geckosenator>
some use as much as a watt
- [13:00:13] <koen>
geckosenator: did you see http://www.iunika.com/ ?
- [13:00:30] <koen>
geckosenator: they are doing a mips based laptop with an optional solar-panal case
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- [13:04:04] <Toast>
geckosenator: thanks
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- [13:07:16] <myhrman>
My beagleboard rev C hangs right after "uncompressing linux" is done, but this happens only when powering the board via 5V DC-plug. When the board is USB-powered, the system boots up properly. Any ideas why this is happening?
- [13:08:04] <as_leep>
Dirty power?
- [13:09:25] <as_leep>
Is the voltage right?
- [13:10:08] <myhrman>
I would like to believe it's not because of "dirty power", because the 5V supply is quite powerful. Maybe I need more bypass capacitors on beagleboard?
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- [13:10:59] <ali_as>
A powerful PSU and a clean one are often not the same thing drawing low current.
- [13:11:08] <myhrman>
From the schematics, it seems like the power source should be completely transparent to the software, so it must somehow be a current peak problem, right?
- [13:11:35] <ali_as>
If the voltage is steady current takes care of itself.
- [13:12:16] <ali_as>
Do you have an oscilloscope or a multimeter?
- [13:12:21] <myhrman>
ali_as: you're right, but with powerful I mean it should be steady. its a laboratory cube
- [13:12:43] <myhrman>
yes, just haven't done any measurements yet
- [13:13:31] <myhrman>
seems like the next thing to do
- [13:13:40] <ali_as>
No current limiting enabled?
- [13:13:49] <br48>
anyone using an lcd with beagle?
- [13:15:32] <myhrman>
ali_as: it was enabled, yes, but i think at a quite high current level
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- [13:16:00] <myhrman>
I obviously need to do some more testing and measurements. thanks for advice so far though =)
- [13:16:18] <ali_as>
How high, only with a lab power supply that can make a really stable PSU produce glitches?
- [13:17:05] <myhrman>
don't remember how high, hence my need to go back to lab and do it properly =)
- [13:17:26] <ali_as>
Fair enough, good luck. Haven't dared try a power supply yet.
- [13:17:51] <ali_as>
One person in here fried a beagle by putting in 12v power.
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- [13:19:33] <meek>
does anyone know where to get an angstrom beagle kernel-defconf?
- [13:20:52] <koen>
meek: zcat /proc/config.gz on a running beagle
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- [13:21:23] <meek>
koen: thanks a lot! I'll try
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- [13:26:55] <hektor2k>
hi all, i wanted to test video playback on beagle, but its very slow with angstr??m. is there a good howto?
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- [13:27:41] <koen>
hektor2k: mplayer -vo xv <videofile> seems to do the job for me
- [13:28:49] <hektor2k>
koen: i tried die big rabbit demo movie, its only starting with a black screen
- [13:29:01] <hektor2k>
die=the
- [13:29:46] <hektor2k>
maybe im missing something, is the bootloader playing any role?
- [13:30:42] <koen>
yes, older ones don't enable l1neon
- [13:31:35] <hektor2k>
on my board is X-Loader 1.4.2, U-Boot 2009.01-00013-g52eddcd (Feb 03 2009 - 22:22:56)
- [13:31:45] <hektor2k>
should i boot new ones from source?
- [13:31:55] <hektor2k>
build new ones of course
- [13:32:52] <koen>
those are new enough
- [13:33:17] <koen>
there's a bug in the XV driver where it won't allow images larger than your screensize
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- [13:33:43] <koen>
if you want to do that, change your xorg.conf to use fbdev, reboot and use mplayer -vo omapfb
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that shouldn't be a problem i'm using 1280x768, but ill give it a try. thanks so far
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- [13:43:24] <dirk2>
jkridner|work1: good morning!
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- [13:51:47] <davidcb>
12 hours later and my GPRS connection is still alive.
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- [13:58:27] <mib_6wwf4p>
Hi, trying to get the dsp working, what should ping.out return? at the moment i'm getting nothing
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Ok just installed the bridgedriver.ko module and now I get DSP detected: DSPNode_Allocate failed:0x80008008
- [14:05:42] <mib_6wwf4p>
Is this correct?
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- [14:14:31] <mib_6wwf4p>
Ok should try reading more, found what I wanted. Thanks
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hi
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- [16:47:16] <ds2>
morning
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- [17:22:56] <Olipro>
if you set PC to 0xFFFFFFFC what's the 2nd instruction address it'll execute
- [17:29:19] <dirk2>
Approved project of week 21 is Accelerated USB Graphics Adapter http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/contest#Approved_projects
- [17:30:22] <koen>
dirk2: I suspect we need to pimp it on the mailinglist a bit more so more people register a project
- [17:30:43] <dirk2>
koen: I hoped jkridner|work1 would do it
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- [17:32:18] <dirk2>
http://digitalsurveyinstruments.com/beagleperiphials/solarcomputer/index.htm sounds like a nice project, too. But there seems to be already a board to work with.
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- [17:33:02] <koen>
dirk2: I thought the idea was to donate people a board they can blow up during experiments ;)
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- [17:33:42] <ldesnogu_>
Olipro: that's an UNPREDICTABLE behaviour
- [17:33:52] <ldesnogu_>
but you can bet it will go to 0 :)
- [17:33:55] <dirk2>
koen: ... and then rma so that Gerald will have some fun ... ;)
- [17:34:27] <muriani>
ah sweet, I thoguht the accelerated USB graphics adapter a fascinating project
- [17:35:12] * koen ponders about updating ogre3d sgx support
- [17:36:46] <koen>
by 'updating' read 'poke prabindh to do it'
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good morning
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- [18:19:35] <Peace50>
hi
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hi
- [18:22:47] <Peace50>
i have a question about bootargs and hdmi
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- [18:24:19] <Peace50>
i add video=omapfb:mode:720p60 but my tv is not a good display
- [18:25:11] <Peace50>
i use the last uImage of ??ngstr??m
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- [18:28:28] <Peace50>
hi
- [18:29:49] <djlewis>
Peace50: hang in there someone with TV experience is probably nearby. I use DVI LCD monitor.
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- [18:31:02] <Peace50>
arff ok
- [18:31:47] <lirtex>
Has anyone here succeeded cross-compiling a Debian kernel for the BeagleBoard? I'm not sure how to do that.
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- [18:45:06] <Crofton|work>
Should I push a patch to enable MCSPI 3 and 4 driver and configure them for use with spidev (built as module)?
- [18:45:18] <Crofton|work>
people would still need to change the mux to use them
- [18:45:27] <Crofton|work>
(push in Angstrom)
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- [18:50:39] <digger3>
Hi, I'm looking at the beagleboard to build a media centre, but I'm also looking at an eeepc (which with all the extra's comes close in price) for using it as a media center. Any reason why I really want to use the beagleboard, does it have interesting strengths?
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- [18:51:26] <djlewis>
digger3: ya get to learn more on the BB
- [18:51:26] <ali_as>
Some people have been unimpressed with sound quality on the beagle.
- [18:51:46] <mru>
someone should make an s/pdif addon
- [18:51:53] <mru>
it should be easy
- [18:52:10] <djlewis>
mri: cool go for it dude :)
- [18:52:16] <djlewis>
mru: that is
- [18:52:56] <digger3>
djlewis: I've read quite a bit, anything I should read in particular so I can answer my own question?
- [18:53:34] <mru>
djlewis: I don't have the resources to do it
- [18:53:45] <mru>
but there's a TI chip that should plug right in
- [18:54:20] <djlewis>
digger3: I was being just a tad facicious man, The Eeeeeepc is more user ready than the BB.
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- [18:55:25] <djlewis>
I am the stubborn type that tends to do things the most difficult path :(
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- [18:56:17] <digger3>
djlewis: :), that's okay, I know about the user readiness, I'm trying to weigh options
- [18:57:04] <djlewis>
I'd say BB offers a better path to the developer and hardware person.
- [18:57:17] <djlewis>
I chose it for robotics.
- [18:57:36] <djlewis>
If that doesn't work out it might become a media center ;)
- [19:00:02] <djlewis>
I think it is still too early for BB and HiDef video though.
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- [19:05:58] <muriani>
djlewis: a bit early, aye
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- [19:08:21] <muriani>
I think I'm planning more of an OpenPandora console until Vuzix releases their AR glasses
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- [19:39:33] <Crofton|work>
koen, linux-omap_2.6.29 isn't building for me due to a missing patch
- [19:39:48] <Crofton|work>
the patchfile for ppoll is missing I think?
- [19:39:50] <Crofton|work>
weird
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- [20:37:10] <koen>
Crofton|work: aw crap, I committed too much in the davinci commit
- [20:40:01] <koen>
Crofton|work: the patch is there now, we need to sort out if we actually want it
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- [20:53:32] <Crofton|work>
ok
- [20:53:41] <Crofton|work>
I am doing a build to check it on the beagle
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- [20:55:42] <Crofton|work>
the hang I see is right before INIT starts ...
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- [20:57:53] <Crofton|work>
ok, build continues
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Hi, been searching for the max. tick rate for the beagle board. I know the Omap2 chip in the n810 is 100hz. Anyone know?
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