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IRC Log for 2009-08-05

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[00:36:39] <djlewis> ping ds2:
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[00:47:27] <jkridner|work> mru: did you report compilation issues of FFmpeg with the TI ARM compiler on community.ti.com?
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[01:29:40] <lemay> I ordered my bb on July 22 ... it shipped yesterday \o/
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[01:31:15] <djlewis> so is lemay more impatient now that the BB is on the move or the same ;)
[01:31:27] <lemay> :)
[01:31:29] <lemay> the same
[01:31:45] <lemay> I??e been trying to figure out what my development environment is going to be
[01:32:24] <lemay> Ive got to admit that getting a reasonable process in place is not straightforward
[01:34:10] <lemay> I hope to have something good in place by the time it arrives ... usps says friday!
[01:36:08] <djlewis> interesting, I have NEVER had usps give tracking info. And I paid for the option.
[01:36:37] <djlewis> they say it is on its way and they might mention it arrived a day after that happens.
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[01:37:38] <djlewis> at least with UPS you can keep clicking and see if it has left Memphis yet ;)
[01:38:05] <lemay> youre right - it?? UPS, not usps.
[01:38:11] <djlewis> oh.
[01:38:14] <djlewis> :P
[01:38:34] <lemay> the extra s snuck in there
[01:38:41] <lemay> stowed away
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[01:38:55] <djlewis> sakoman: the first sdhc is parted and formatted.
[01:39:07] <djlewis> hmmm what to put on it ?
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[01:50:54] <javaJake> lemay: you might consider Gentoo ;)
[01:51:42] <lemay> Is that a type of linux?
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[01:53:19] <lemay> I am a pretty big linux rookie - for this development effort I have installed a vmware ubuntu image
[01:53:48] <lemay> I??? an engineer and Ive done a lot of development on Windows, but never linux before
[01:54:24] <lemay> I was more concerned with the toolchain and build process for developing an application, rather than the flavor of linux that I develop on
[01:54:37] <lemay> but that could just be because I am ignorant of all things linux :P
[01:55:20] <lemay> why do you like Gentoo, javaJake?
[01:56:32] <javaJake> lemay: Gentoo is all about compiling things from scratch.
[01:56:52] <javaJake> The entire OS is/can be custom-built.
[01:57:20] <javaJake> The toolchains are readily available in the distro, because they are basically required for the package manager to do anything useful ;)
[01:57:45] <lemay> which is handy for embedded cross compiling, eh?
[01:58:16] <Crofton|work> er
[01:58:24] <Crofton|work> I'd ask mru
[01:58:40] <javaJake> lemay: cross-compiling is another beast...
[01:59:02] <Crofton|work> the beagle can do native compiles, but that is not its strength
[01:59:33] <javaJake> lemay: Gentoo for Pandora is a project that has ported Gentoo to BeagleBoard. In the meantime it has documented how it's done things. One of those things is cross-compiling: http://gentoo.openpandora.org/wiki/index.php/Create_Image
[02:00:17] <lemay> yea, I am strongly leaning towards cross compiling, using the PC as the development platform for the BB
[02:00:19] <javaJake> lemay: this guide, while Gentoo-centric, generates a fairly generic cross-compiler toolchain.
[02:00:27] <javaJake> lemay: might be a good resource
[02:00:34] * lemay clicks
[02:01:58] <javaJake> lemay: the first two pages are most useful. And while Gentoo experience is handy, for the first two pages it isn't necessary.
[02:02:48] <lemay> I??l read them :)
[02:03:32] <ds2> djlewis: pong
[02:03:57] <javaJake> lemay: be sure to look into alternatives too, like CodeSourcery.
[02:04:03] <javaJake> lemay: just in case this doesn't work out for you
[02:04:08] <lemay> yessir
[02:04:29] <lemay> I??e downloaded the codesourcery lite already - but it would be nice to integrate it into and IDE
[02:05:13] <lemay> and I have not quite wrapped my mind around the linux process for linking libraries
[02:05:23] <javaJake> Ah, OK
[02:05:46] <lemay> it?? great being a rookie again
[02:06:01] <javaJake> Well, I have to go to sleep. There are more knowledgeable people here, so be sure to hang around and ask questions. If no one responds, leave your client on for a few hours. Often someone sees it later in the day and has an answer.
[02:06:09] <javaJake> Hehe, welcome :)
[02:06:20] <lemay> thanks for the pointers :)
[02:06:23] <javaJake> It's a wild, wild world you've decided to join.
[02:06:37] <javaJake> Enjoy ;)
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[02:09:22] <djlewis> ds2: I thought I had a answer for your lcd lamp inverter but it was not. sorry.
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[02:21:08] <bobkatzz> well - my son has me listening to ZZ top (I would have thought it was ME that runed HIM on to it hehe - beat me to it)
[02:21:20] <bobkatzz> turned
[02:21:32] <djlewis> good texas band :)
[02:22:34] <bobkatzz> so anyway - as an update - have the PowerSDr guys and several other groups trying to galvanize the Soft Rock crew into getting jiggy with Linux so we can get SDR into a realistic environment on the BB
[02:23:28] <bobkatzz> so it seems to be slowly evolving that way
[02:24:45] <bobkatzz> sorry I haven't been available for a while - major domestic renovation = lanscaping stump pulling, house painting - etc
[02:25:11] <bobkatzz> but now starting to get back reconnected with the "SYSTEM" :P
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[02:26:01] <bobkatzz> I've sent numerous ham geeks to beagle chat so I hope they are learning/contributing something
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[02:26:25] * djlewis say, there are many forks in the road of life :)
[02:26:31] <bobkatzz> you guys rock when it comes to help/nurturing/mentoring
[02:26:45] <bobkatzz> yeah and one is in my ass heheh
[02:27:15] <bobkatzz> pioneers they're the one with the arrows in teir backs
[02:27:39] <bobkatzz> and also the ones who own California -= they say
[02:27:47] <Crofton|work> I've started looking at assembling my softrock's :)
[02:28:09] <bobkatzz> which one's are you working with? Crofton|work ??
[02:28:28] <Crofton|work> 20m and 20 m lite II
[02:28:59] <bobkatzz> I've built the 6.3 for 40M and then I have the parts for 10/15/20
[02:29:13] <bobkatzz> Lite is the RX only right?
[02:29:48] <lemay> what is soft rock?
[02:30:01] <bobkatzz> it's the TX that gets tricky because of the Si570 tuning with the I2C/USB adapter
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[02:30:43] <bobkatzz> it replaces the ATTiny chip on the board and allows you to set the TX parameters and the PTT
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[02:31:52] <bobkatzz> so I've been beating up the Soft Rock guys to push forward on getting PowerSDr and other apps that program that chip to get on Linux
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[02:32:12] <djlewis> lemay: tiny low power ham rx/tx units
[02:32:26] <bobkatzz> then sakoman will guide me through cross compiling those to run on Angstrom - we hope
[02:33:10] <lemay> cool
[02:33:21] <lemay> what?? the bandwidth on those puppies?
[02:33:22] <bobkatzz> I mean koen could do it in an afternoon :P but I wanna know how to do it myself -
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[02:34:02] <djlewis> bobkatzz: I never saw your wiki so I jumped into OE on my own.
[02:34:13] <djlewis> :P
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[02:34:48] <bobkatzz> bandwidth? the Soft Rock 6.3 RXTX works on several bands on SSB so you can use most of the digital modes - BPSK, Olivia, CW, even frikkin Hellschrieber!!
[02:35:18] <Crofton> yeah rx only
[02:36:22] <bobkatzz> yeah - djlewis - that's still in the works - only because I haven't actually been able to get to transmitting with the SR 6.3 yet - only with the SWL PSK20 for BPKS31
[02:37:22] <Crofton|work> koen, gm
[02:37:47] <bobkatzz> can't do the whole thing until it's done but if anyone wants to get the current SDR ham radio image and doesn't want to go through BitBaking etc. if they send me an SD card I will burn it for them
[02:38:07] <Crofton|work> ok time for bed
[02:38:08] <Crofton|work> gn
[02:38:11] <djlewis> gn
[02:38:20] <bobkatzz> or - if you have a really fast connection I could put the image and everything up on my server
[02:38:30] <bobkatzz> gn Crofton|work
[02:38:46] <djlewis> sakoman: inserting sd into BB and powering up.
[02:39:17] <bobkatzz> Robert Johnson - Frikkin ROCKS!!! sorry :P
[02:39:25] <bobkatzz> Pandora :D
[02:39:53] <lemay> he?? old school
[02:40:14] <bobkatzz> in this case it's Cream !!!
[02:40:33] <bobkatzz> hehe - I'm music agnostic :P
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[02:40:51] <ds2> djlewis: oh okay, thanks. I'll just put on my analog design hat and work it taht wway
[02:40:56] <bobkatzz> from ol' funky blues to Tuvan throat-singing
[02:41:21] <lemay> crossroads?
[02:41:50] <lemay> lol, tuvan throat singing ...that is pretty far out there
[02:41:56] <bobkatzz> holy crap - yes!!
[02:42:05] <lemay> I saw a movie about that once. crazy music.
[02:42:28] <djlewis> ds2: I was thinking those ccfl invertors for custom cpu cases but they say 650v
[02:42:43] <bobkatzz> got a 100 year old Washburn guitar that my grandmother brother gave me that I play blues on - gotta love it
[02:42:59] <djlewis> ds2 but cheap.
[02:45:23] <bobkatzz> had it restored when I moved back from CA and it was in like two pieces - so I gave it to Tommy Rodriguez (http://www.rodriguezguitars.com/) and he took a year to restore it
[02:46:09] <ds2> djlewis: I got one of those but that's a bit too high voltage wise
[02:46:23] <bobkatzz> it now has the action of an electric guitar - I also have Tommy's first ever Flamenco guitar - cypress and cedar - will blow the doors off your coop!
[02:46:31] <djlewis> yep, bunner
[02:46:40] <ds2> djlewis: this particular LCD has a 24LED backlight arrange as 3x8
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[02:47:13] <djlewis> ds2: lots of current?
[02:47:15] <lemay> lol :)
[02:47:26] <ds2> any of the hams here know if 2.4GHz is still a amateur primary band?
[02:47:34] <ds2> djlewis: nope... mere 20mA
[02:48:03] <djlewis> ds2: no!
[02:48:10] <ds2> so I could drive it with a 20mA, 120V max compliance constant current drive
[02:48:20] <ds2> djlewis: we lost 2.4GHz?
[02:48:56] <djlewis> ds2 : ? what
[02:49:53] <ds2> djlewis: what was that "no!" refering to?
[02:50:40] <djlewis> ds2: I dont understand your comment "we lost 2.4GHz"
[02:50:51] <djlewis> oh.
[02:50:59] <djlewis> I wasnt reading the chatter.
[02:51:16] <djlewis> I was on a subject ;)
[02:51:22] <ds2> djlewis; you said "no!" I thought that was refering to - <ds2> any of the hams here know if 2.4GHz is still a amateur primary band?
[02:52:04] <djlewis> argh: we have 2 ds2's
[02:52:10] <ds2> Ohhh hahahah
[02:52:19] <ds2> thought 'ds' is not active at the oment
[02:52:21] <ds2> moment
[02:52:39] <djlewis> I'm so confused :(
[02:53:46] <ds> !
[02:54:37] <ds2> :D
[03:14:50] <bobkatzz> huh?
[03:15:33] <bobkatzz> 2.4GHz = very small antennas :P
[03:15:42] <bobkatzz> gotta love that
[03:15:49] <ds2> bobkatzz: but do we still have that or is it pure ISM now?
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[03:31:19] <Animule> There's shared segments in 2.4GHz ISM
[03:31:27] <Animule> technically it falls in the amateur band
[03:31:35] <Animule> but low-power transmissions are still OK
[03:32:04] <ds2> Animule: so can one operate as a ham at a full 1KW in that band?
[03:32:05] <Animule> and if you're under part 15/95... and oyu live next to a radio geek with a 2.4GHz radio... you're screwed :D
[03:32:13] <Animule> ds2: affirmative
[03:32:21] <Animule> and 1.5kW iirc
[03:32:25] <ds2> hehehe }:-)
[03:32:46] <Animule> 2.4GHz high-power is prohibitively expensive for me though :\
[03:32:57] <ds2> it is currently 1.5kw, nice... .tuned horns in front of a microwave oven with the door interlock disabled....
[03:33:02] <ds2> N0N mode ;)
[03:33:08] <Animule> and there's not much traffic up there anyways... 1.2's about the highest for terrestrial radio
[03:33:27] <Animule> till you get into satellites and P2P microwave
[03:33:40] <ds2> sarcasm aside, I was thinking of the TI Chipcon stuff as a QRP radios
[03:33:46] <Animule> anyways
[03:33:50] <Animule> just wrapped up here
[03:33:51] <Animule> so i'm out
[03:33:53] <Animule> 73 all :D\
[03:33:55] <ds2> later
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[03:39:53] <djlewis> sakoman: so far soo good. no hiccups with the sdhc running g-r8
[03:41:14] <ds2> djlewis: so it was your reader?
[03:42:09] <djlewis> ds2: I am not certain of that. I noticed that the sd's I placed in the laptop reader got an id #
[03:42:18] <djlewis> added to them and they no longer worked.
[03:42:33] <ds2> djlewis: windows laptop?
[03:42:39] <djlewis> A fresh sd has no id shown in fdisk 'p'
[03:42:56] <djlewis> no,, running Ubu 9.latest
[03:43:03] <ds2> hmmm
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[03:43:50] <djlewis> I sent back the two cards and reader and got new. So nothing goes in HP no more.
[03:44:13] <djlewis> It could have been the reader but I lean toward confused cards.
[03:44:16] <ds2> know what the HP uses? i.e. is it USB device or something integrated into a chip?
[03:44:59] <djlewis> lspci = SD Host controller: Texas Instruments PCIxx12 SDA Standard Compliant SD Host Controller
[03:45:12] <ds2> hmmm
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[03:46:11] <djlewis> dmesg
[03:46:16] <djlewis> oops
[03:46:33] <djlewis> the real test will be a angstrom desktop image.
[03:47:34] <djlewis> I may try the one wierd sd I have left that NewEgg said keep, in the new reader.
[03:56:59] <bobkatzz> djlewis: I have a gret image that works so well it just kicks Ubuntu's Butt!!
[03:57:21] <bobkatzz> if you wnat it just let me know and I'll get it to you somehow
[03:57:25] <bobkatzz> want
[03:57:29] <djlewis> hmmm.
[03:57:48] <bobkatzz> or send me an SD card and I'll burn it for you
[03:57:54] <bobkatzz> 2G+
[03:58:38] <djlewis> that wouldn't be UE would it?
[03:59:00] <djlewis> U R talking of wkstn, not BB?
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[04:00:57] <djlewis> brb, dog needs out.
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[04:15:08] <djlewis> good, synergy brings me back to one kybd and mouse.
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[04:24:19] <bobkatzz> Pandora just frikkin rocks!! - where can you hear Aerosmith, Cream, Jimmy the H, Clapton and et-cetera all in less 30 minutes?? for free?
[04:24:37] <bobkatzz> I'm ont worthy B^)
[04:24:39] <bobkatzz> not
[04:30:47] <gpreddy> Hi, I am new to beagleboard. can anyone tell what all the functionalities that r provided by dsp on OMAP
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[04:33:45] <bobkatzz> gpreddy: are you doing ham radio stuff?
[04:33:59] <bobkatzz> or straight DSP?
[04:35:44] <bobkatzz> djlewis: no it's a BB / Angstrom image with all the ham stuff running on it
[04:38:19] <gpreddy> bobkatzz: I started looking what r all libraries or plug-in available for dsp on beagleboard? and what I can work for on any new.
[04:41:17] <djlewis> tnx bobkatzz: it wouldnt do me much good as I dont have ham hardware.
[04:45:38] <bobkatzz> ok
[04:46:29] <bobkatzz> i'm beddy-bye g'night
[04:46:33] <djlewis> bobkatzz: btw: I dont run Ubuntu on BB. Angstrom and gnome.
[04:46:42] <djlewis> gn bobkatzz
[04:47:01] <bobkatzz> yeah ubuntu sux - gn
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[04:54:23] <djlewis> good night all...
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[06:02:21] <acollamati> #gst_ti
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[06:42:56] <_dash_> Anybody here for audio related problem ?
[06:43:14] <ds2> you are just running into all sorts of stuff =)
[06:44:27] <_dash_> ds2: Have u faced audio problem ?
[06:44:40] <ds2> yep.
[06:44:50] <ds2> I have done battle with those pesty McBSPs
[06:45:02] <_dash_> thank god at least i found one
[06:45:29] <_dash_> What kerenel version gave u problem ?
[06:45:42] <_dash_> is id V2.6.29-r35
[06:45:50] <_dash_> *is it
[06:46:20] <ds2> I don't recall...
[06:46:59] <_dash_> I am unable to get an audio though it does not show any error logs
[06:47:12] <ds2> well, trouble shoot then!
[06:47:27] <ds2> does ALSA see the device?
[06:47:39] <_dash_> yep
[06:47:46] <_dash_> even I tried with oss
[06:47:49] <ds2> is the 4030 happy?
[06:48:01] <ds2> do you have the volume turned down to zero?
[06:48:35] <_dash_> how do I check it in beagle (of course not for speakers thwey are havinfg full vol)
[06:48:39] <ds2> throw in debugging print outs in the mcbsp lib or use kgdb or use jtag to see if the McBSP DMA interrupts are firing
[06:48:48] <ds2> you check the volume the same way you do it with any ALSA device
[06:49:03] <ds2> alsamixer, amixer or whatever your favorite control program is
[06:49:17] <_dash_> I just use shell
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[06:49:38] <_dash_> no full fledge distro
[06:49:44] <ds2> no need
[06:49:53] <ds2> alsamixer and amixer should be part of the stock alsa utils
[06:50:02] <_dash_> ok
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[06:50:12] <_dash_> I will check and get back to u
[06:50:49] <ds2> the audio subsystem is pretty trivial, there are only so many things that software can do. and it all comes down to bits being sent out on a serial bus
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[06:51:28] <ds2> the setup is [ALSA] - [MCBSP] --{I2S + I2C}-- [TWL4030]
[06:52:12] <_dash_> oh long chain
[06:52:26] <ds2> the 2 things on the left are software
[06:52:32] <ds2> the rest is HW
[06:52:42] <_dash_> I got it
[06:52:45] <angstrom_port> All, I have built x11-image for beagle board, when I start X, I get the following error: AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so: undefined symbol: _glapi_tls_Context)n
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[06:53:24] <_dash_> ds2: as a primary test I simply did cat beep.pcm > /dev/dsp
[06:53:32] <_dash_> but no luck
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[06:53:42] <ds2> define no luck
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[06:54:03] <_dash_> I was unable to hear anything
[06:54:25] <ds2> thought so... check the volume/mute settings... that is one of more common causes
[06:54:33] <_dash_> ok
[06:54:37] <ds2> also make sure the mixer is routed to the headphone output
[06:55:38] <_dash_> how do I check it with alsa mixer ?
[06:55:49] <ds2> see man page? :D
[06:56:15] <ds2> Sorry, spoonfeeding is reserved for paying folks.
[06:56:38] <_dash_> ok boss
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[06:59:45] <Christos_N|Work> _dash_: ping
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[07:00:13] <_dash_> ds2: Finally got luck
[07:00:22] <_dash_> Christos_N: Hi
[07:00:41] <_dash_> ds2: Headset was mute
[07:01:03] <_dash_> Christos_N|Work: Hi
[07:01:14] <Christos_N|Work> you called me yesterday
[07:01:19] <_dash_> yup
[07:01:35] <_dash_> Actaully I was facing audio problem
[07:01:39] <_dash_> on dk8k
[07:01:54] <Christos_N|Work> 'was' means you solved it?
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[07:02:18] <_dash_> Nope right now I solved it on beagle board
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[07:02:29] <_dash_> as headset setting was mute
[07:02:43] <_dash_> thanks to ds2:
[07:02:54] <_dash_> now I will check it on dk8k
[07:02:57] <Christos_N|Work> bb had audio problems? I didnt knew that
[07:03:03] <ds2> _dash_: =) always start with the basics
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[07:03:31] <_dash_> ds2: yup thanks. got to learn one more approach
[07:03:56] <_dash_> Christos_N|Work: yep bb not having any issue with audio
[07:03:56] <alfred_> Hi all! a little question, I have BB Rev. B5. Can I use USB OTG as HOST? or I need the C3 revision? A little confused here, google doesn't help.
[07:04:20] <_dash_> Christos_N|Work: yep bb not having any issue with audio
[07:04:34] <Christos_N|Work> on dk8k and the provided board support package, audio is also working ok
[07:04:59] <Christos_N|Work> what exactly you're trying to do?
[07:05:03] <_dash_> but sound setting for speaker got to mute automatically
[07:05:21] <_dash_> I found it on bb with the help of ds2
[07:05:23] <ds2> alfred: all versions of the beagle hardward can workwith the OTG as host
[07:05:32] <_dash_> now I will try on dk8k
[07:05:41] <ds2> alfred: just need to find the version of the kernel that has a non buggy MUSB (OTG) driver
[07:06:05] <_dash_> Christos_N|Work: and let u know about the result which I think would be a positive one
[07:06:09] <alfred_> ds2: Great to hear that, thats all I need. Thanks!
[07:06:15] <Christos_N|Work> _dash_ with other distro than what embest is giving?
[07:07:51] <_dash_> yep I used bb kernel with help of chainmail by u and Harishkumar
[07:08:15] <_dash_> Actually patches are realeased for Android
[07:08:32] <_dash_> which I applied on bb angsrom distro
[07:08:47] <_dash_> and was able to boot everything including nw
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[07:09:10] <_dash_> now I will test sound problem which i cured with alsa mizer
[07:09:14] <Christos_N|Work> what these patches miss is the lcd
[07:09:15] <_dash_> *mixer
[07:09:26] <_dash_> oh OK
[07:10:00] <_dash_> Shall try to do lcd stuff ?
[07:10:18] <Christos_N|Work> why not?
[07:10:24] <_dash_> It would be learning for me under ur guidance
[07:10:35] <_dash_> OK I will ping u back
[07:10:55] <_dash_> just after fixing some issues over here ... othewise boss will shoot me
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[07:23:01] <bbbb> bitbake base-image is giving an error
[07:23:05] <bbbb> NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 350 tasks of which 346 didn't need to be rerun and 1 failed. ERROR: '/home/beagle/oe/openembedded/recipes/qemu/qemu-native_0.10.3.bb' failed
[07:23:23] <kblin> alfred_: also USB OTG at least in the RevBs only works with usb2.0 devices, if you want any 1.1 devices you need a hub
[07:24:10] <kblin> alfred_: and I'm running into some issues with mixing usb 1.1 and usb 2.0 devices on my B6
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[07:26:08] <bbbb> can anyone help to solve it ? someone told it might be OE issue at this point of time. But I am tying it for two days
[07:27:28] <ds2> kblin: NO
[07:27:37] <ds2> OTG will handle 1.1 just fine
[07:27:37] <av500> gm
[07:28:01] <ds2> EHCI is the one that only supports HS devices
[07:28:09] <Christos_N|Work> gm
[07:29:15] <Christos_N|Work> is oe downloading the kernel source tree from git.kernel.org ?
[07:31:00] <Christos_N|Work> actually how can we see or define from where is oe downloading the kernel source tree? anyone?
[07:31:32] <kblin> alfred_: oh, ok, I withdraw the part about only usb2.0 devices then
[07:31:50] <kblin> ds2: looks like I misremembered the manual then
[07:32:05] <kblin> ds2: thanks for the correction
[07:32:18] <av500> Christos_N|Work: I guess it is on the recipe file
[07:33:09] <bbbb> can I get anyone help ?
[07:33:52] <Christos_N|Work> well, htat belongs to my other question, how can I trace what a recipe is about to do? from where can I start of lets say the console-image recipe?
[07:33:59] <Christos_N|Work> that
[07:37:15] <Christos_N|Work> I didnt expect that question to be that difficult to get an answer from someone :-)
[07:38:52] <Christos_N|Work> I'm asking these because I think I've seen a difference in what oe downloaded and what git.kernel.org has so I'm trying to find what happened
[07:40:05] <Christos_N|Work> arch/arm/configs/omap3_beagle_defconfig was not there in oe's download but exist in git.kernel.org (unless I'm missing something)
[07:40:46] <methril|work> goood morning
[07:41:20] <Christos_N|Work> probalby its too early to pose such questions... :-)
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[07:47:55] <psykes> digikey is showing 0 quantity available of beagleboards, anybody know when they'll be getting stock?
[07:48:13] <ds2> just order it
[07:48:26] <ds2> they digikey database is misleading
[07:48:41] <psykes> is revision C2 or C3 shipping?
[07:48:51] <cajun-rat> i got a c3 last weeek
[07:49:05] <ds2> C3 should be shipping
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[07:49:31] <psykes> thank you
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[07:51:46] <psykes> anybody know where I should start looking if I want to use the LCD header as GPIO, I've used GPIO on the expansion header but was wondering how I tell linux these are GPIO and not an LCD output?
[07:52:09] <ds2> pinmux
[07:52:56] <psykes> I thought the pinmux only controlled the expansion header, to be honest I haven't looked into it much for the lcd header?
[07:53:45] <psykes> wouldn't I have to tell the kernel to not use it as LCD output somehow?
[07:54:17] <av500> psykes: almost every pin on the omap3 is controlled by pinmux
[07:54:39] <av500> and so far the kernel does not control the LCD lines at all, IIRC
[07:56:06] <psykes> will look more closely at this thank you.
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[08:07:41] <cajun-rat> what controls the version of the linux kernel that OE uses?
[08:08:57] <cajun-rat> so far I've found beagleboard.conf, which points to omap3.inc, which has 'PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "linux-omap"'
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[08:11:44] <alfred_> kblin: Thanks, I will use it with a powered hub. I'm thinking on using the BB as a Desktop, and I needed a mouse and a Keyboard. I bough a B5 used BB and I was fearing that I could'n connect any device using USB
[08:12:11] <DJWillis> cajun-rat: then look to the DEFAULT_PREF stuff within the BB's to choose what is built for your setup.
[08:13:54] <cajun-rat> DJWillis: bingo thanks.
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[08:17:13] <mru> morning
[08:18:33] <kblin> alfred_: I use mine as as network server, so I'm not sure about desktop usage. but apart from my usb 1.1 ethernet controller dropping off the bus when I start pulling heavy disk traffic on my usb 2.0 disks, I didn't have any issues
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[08:19:05] <cajun-rat> kblin: which usb host ports are you using, btw?
[08:19:46] <kblin> cajun-rat: I've only used a B6 so far
[08:19:54] <cajun-rat> so that's the OTG?
[08:20:12] <kblin> yeah
[08:20:36] <kblin> I just got a c3, but didn't get around to try that yet
[08:22:10] <kblin> fot a revC, I'd use the ehci port for the usb storage and the otg port for hub/ethernet, I think
[08:22:31] <florian> good morning
[08:22:52] <cajun-rat> is the performance of the ehci better than the otg?
[08:23:10] <cajun-rat> or is it for low/full speed support?
[08:23:48] <kblin> the usb disk is high speed usb anyway, so I don't have to deal with that
[08:23:58] <kblin> I'm not sure if the performance differs
[08:24:32] <kblin> or differs enough, at least
[08:25:08] <cajun-rat> i'll give both a try when the cables arive
[08:26:06] <RobertBerger> Good morning florian, I guess you can help Christos with his oe question.
[08:26:55] <florian> hi RobertBerger
[08:27:12] <florian> maybe :)
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[08:28:07] <RobertBerger> florian: sorry for the mess
[08:28:41] <RobertBerger> florianL he wants to know where in oe to define which kernel is downloaded
[08:29:38] <florian> it depends :)
[08:29:56] <kblin> to be honest, I'm not 100% sure what I'd use the revC board for if using a usb2.0 ethernet controller fixes my networking problems
[08:30:56] <florian> Usually the machine configuration specifies which kernel is the correct one. Somtimes there are speciall bb files for some kernels but usually its just "linux".
[08:31:33] <florian> The linux kernel bb files have information about compatibility and if they are preferred for a particular machine.
[08:31:57] <florian> They usually have patches for the devices thy support as well.
[08:32:27] <florian> The tx27 device might be a good example.
[08:32:39] <RobertBerger> I guess this might help, thanks
[08:32:45] <florian> yw
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[08:49:10] <booxter> koen: hello! i just returned from vacation and saw that qt4-embedded-gles recipes are disabled. what's the reason?
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[08:54:27] <hrw> morning
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[09:01:16] <hrw> ok, who maintain beagleboard ML?
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[09:01:48] <kblin> wow, I never did solderwork on surface mounted elements before.. I don't think I want to start on $150 hardware..
[09:02:46] <rupeshgujare> i guess jkrinder
[09:03:41] <av500> kblin: well, use a 1500$ EVM then :-)
[09:05:46] <hrw> rupeshgujare: ok, will go to him
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[09:07:06] <kblin> av500: no thanks
[09:07:28] <kblin> av500: I'll just run ntpdate from a startup script
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[09:21:06] <_koen_> good morning all
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[09:22:54] <mru> morning _koen_
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[09:28:27] <booxter> _koen_: hello! i just returned from vacation and saw that qt4-embedded-gles recipes are disabled. what's the reason?
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[09:52:26] <_dash_> _koen_ : Finally audio worked for me
[09:56:09] <diorahman> av500: hello -- I put all.x64P and app_remote.xv5t for video_copy in the same folder and execute the app_remote.xv5T -- but it doesn't work
[09:56:26] <_dash_> volume vas mute
[09:56:27] <diorahman> it couldn't find the engine
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[09:57:45] <av500> diorahman: export CE_DEBUG=2 an rerun
[09:57:52] <av500> and pastebin the result
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[09:59:54] <diorahman> av500: wait a sec
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[10:01:53] <bbbb> when I started building image using bitbake I am getting error .... NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 350 tasks of which 346 didn't need to be rerun and 1 failed. ERROR: '/home/beagle/oe/openembedded/recipes/qemu/qemu-native_0.10.3.bb' failed
[10:02:06] <bbbb> I followed the instructions given http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom
[10:02:51] <bbbb> I tried bitbake base-image
[10:03:07] <diorahman> av500: http://pastebin.com/m379bd8c5
[10:03:33] <bbbb> can anyone help in this regard?
[10:04:23] <bbbb> someone told it might be OE issue at this point of time. But I am tying it for two days
[10:05:29] <hrw> bbbb: show logs
[10:06:02] <av500> diorahman: it found the engine
[10:06:02] <diorahman> av500: and I have CE debugging oExisting entry's end address is covered by given entry's start & end address., can not create TLB entry for address: [0x8600000] size: [0x1]
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[10:06:37] <diorahman> av500: but it said can't open engine video_copy
[10:07:02] <av500> yes, it cannot open it, but at least it found it
[10:07:13] <av500> where do you see that TLB error msg?
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[10:07:37] <diorahman> when I run the app
[10:07:45] <diorahman> CE_DEBUG=1
[10:07:58] <av500> pastebin?
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[10:09:14] <diorahman> http://pastebin.com/m26f6345f I think I have problem with cmemk
[10:09:33] <diorahman> av500: http://pastebin.com/m26f6345f
[10:09:45] <bbbb> hrw : http://pastebin.com/m73903aff
[10:10:03] <av500> diorahman: k
[10:11:09] <_dash_> Anybody for toolchain related querries here
[10:11:10] <av500> diorahman: something strange, the one pastebin has: startAddress=0x86000000, sizeInBytes=0x1800000
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[10:11:31] <av500> the error msg has: for address: [0x86000000] size: [0x1000000]
[10:12:56] <hrw> bbbb: I want qemu log not bitbake out[put
[10:13:04] <diorahman> av500: hum
[10:14:01] <diorahman> av500: I've set mem=88M
[10:14:24] <diorahman> av500: what is the correct phys_start and phys_end and the pools
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[10:15:06] <mru> physical ram starts at 0x80000000
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[10:15:29] <av500> diorahman: mem=88m is fine
[10:15:32] <diorahman> mru: for cmem configuration
[10:15:42] <diorahman> mru: dsplink
[10:15:45] <mru> well, add 88M
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[10:16:16] <av500> diorahman: Setting CMEM base to 0x85800000, size to 0x1000000
[10:16:45] <av500> so at 88M...
[10:18:23] <av500> diorahman: your cmem is 0x85800000, size to 0x1000000 which makes it end at: 86800000
[10:18:36] <diorahman> yeah
[10:18:41] <av500> but then: name='DDRALGHEAP', startAddress=0x86000000, sizeInBytes=0x1800000,
[10:18:44] <_dash_> Can I distribute toolchain on my PC with my collegues ??
[10:18:50] <av500> which overlaps cmem area, no?
[10:19:09] <av500> make the ALGHEAP start at 86800000 and reduce the size to 16MB
[10:19:19] <av500> 24MB is crazy anyway
[10:19:33] <diorahman> av500: hum, how to do that?
[10:19:39] <av500> the whole CE default mapping is way too oversized
[10:20:03] <av500> adit the server tcf file
[10:20:09] <av500> edit the server tcf file
[10:20:20] <av500> or reduce CMEM to 8MB...
[10:20:20] <diorahman> av500: OK
[10:20:59] <av500> so, either make CMEM smaller, or reduce size of DDRALGHEAP to 16MB
[10:20:59] <diorahman> av500: at the bootargs?
[10:21:07] <av500> when you load it
[10:21:10] <diorahman> av500:
[10:22:04] <av500> to reduce DDRALGHEAD, edit the server .tcf file, but also check the app .cfg file, unless it has engineCreateFromServer, it will also have the mem mapping...
[10:23:04] <av500> diorahman: also read these two: http://wiki.davincidsp.com/index.php/Codec_Engine_Examples_Memory_Map
[10:23:16] <av500> http://wiki.davincidsp.com/index.php/Changing_the_DVEVM_memory_map
[10:23:24] <av500> ah hell, read the whole wiki :-)
[10:23:34] <_dash_> anybody for toolchain discussion ??
[10:23:42] <av500> not before lunch
[10:23:53] <florian> good point :)
[10:24:08] <diorahman> av500: so I have to have something like: EVM3530 Multi-core Examples
[10:24:30] <bbbb> hrw: can you pls tell me where it will be ?
[10:24:47] <av500> bbbb: lunch? here :-)
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[10:25:02] <av500> diorahman: ???
[10:25:19] <diorahman> av500: I read this: http://wiki.davincidsp.com/index.php/Codec_Engine_Examples_Memory_Map :-)
[10:25:20] <av500> diorahman: ah yes, you are reading :-)
[10:25:37] <bbbb> av500: I am newbie , pls tell me
[10:26:02] <av500> bbbb: I know nothing about oe
[10:26:17] <diorahman> av500: how can I print that (memory map) table?
[10:26:26] <diorahman> av500: for validation
[10:26:27] <av500> CE_DEBUG=2
[10:26:38] <diorahman> ok
[10:26:44] <av500> it should also be in one of the html files that is generated when the server is built...
[10:28:18] <av500> e.g. server/package/info/server_production/server.x64P.DataSheet.html
[10:28:21] <bbbb> hrw: I am newbie, pls tell me which directory contains the logs for qemu
[10:29:05] <diorahman> av500: the datasheet -- I think I saw that
[10:29:21] <av500> diorahman: see, the wiki lists linux at 80M, not 88!
[10:29:28] <diorahman> yeah
[10:29:40] <diorahman> av500: I'm changing my conf
[10:29:42] <av500> but you can really shuffle that around as you like
[10:30:09] <av500> demo map wastes one full MB at the end too...
[10:30:30] <diorahman> av500: my cmem should 0x85000000 - 0x85FFFFFF or 0x85000000 - 0x8560000 ?
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[10:31:48] <av500> diorahman: 85000000 means only 80mb for linux
[10:32:15] <diorahman> av500: yes
[10:32:20] <av500> you can also do that of course, then you match the wiki default mapping
[10:32:36] <av500> but for fun, redo the whole CE map, you'll learn a lot ;-)
[10:32:48] <av500> see the http://wiki.davincidsp.com/index.php/Changing_the_DVEVM_memory_map
[10:33:58] <cajun-rat> To (partially) answer my EHCI USB problem: http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/5b8385f0bb1f63da/f17f485ebdc01e0d
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[10:34:34] <diorahman> av500: I'm excited -- yet dizzy :-(
[10:34:50] <av500> cajun-rat: yes, as I said, they are working on it
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[10:36:24] <cajun-rat> av500: yes, thanks. Thought the background would be useful to anyone searching the chat logs
[10:37:44] <av500> for the log: THEY are working on an EHCI fix :-)
[10:39:39] <diorahman> av500: how boaut the pools?
[10:39:45] <diorahman> av500: *about
[10:39:58] <av500> pools are nice on a hot day
[10:40:07] <diorahman> av500: :-)
[10:40:12] <av500> bbl, lunch
[10:43:57] <hrw> bbbb: tmp/work/*/qemu-native*/temp/
[10:44:39] <hrw> bbl
[10:46:31] <diorahman> av500: I did it!
[10:46:33] <diorahman> thanks
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[11:10:05] <Mag_> Hi, Please tell me which resolutions are supported in DVI mode?
[11:10:32] <hrw> Mag_: any - as long as your display will display them
[11:11:33] <Mag_> hrw: but in s-video only 720x480 supported, i think there are some fix resolution supported in DVI
[11:11:46] <hrw> Mag_: I use 1280x800
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[11:12:09] <Mag_> hrw: hav u configured 1280x800 in DVI driver?
[11:12:22] <hrw> yes
[11:12:49] <Mag_> hrw: ok thx, which DVi driver u r using?
[11:13:34] <hrw> Mag_: I use angstrom kernel
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[11:15:29] <Mag_> krw: i m not from linux. can u plese send me the link of angstrom kernel? from where i can download the source?
[11:16:20] <hrw> Mag_: google for 'angstrom distribution' as I never remember url
[11:16:33] <hrw> and source... that should in some faq. use OpenEmbedded
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[11:17:22] <Mag_> krw: do u have DVI .c files with u?if yes, can u please send it to my email?
[11:18:04] <Mag_> krw:i just want to knw the initialization of DSS, DISPC etc
[11:18:27] <hrw> bag_: then ask someone more familiar with kernel
[11:19:05] <Mag_> hrw: do u not have c files for DVI?
[11:19:46] <hrw> Mag_: do me a favour... use google, find angstrom website and build kernel using their instructions. this will give you working kernel and its sources
[11:20:41] <hrw> for future I have to ignore people more often...
[11:20:48] <Mag_> hrw: i dont need kernel,as i said i just want to knw the initialization sequence of DVI driver.any way if u dont have time then its ok,thanks for ur help
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[11:22:55] <twinsen1> hi!
[11:25:17] <twinsen1> I made an OE base image for beagle, it has gcc 4.3.3. The float abi used for the image is softfp. Can I use this compiler to build hard abi software? Is the hard abi stable or broken?
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[11:47:31] <ToM____> I try to make my own Image for BB using openembedded and I have a question: When I using the command "bitbake x11-image" how can I know which version of the kernel will be participate in the construction of the image? I try to run the SPI and I don't know which files should I taken into account using a patch.
[11:48:08] <ToM____> use a Philip Balister's patch "0001-Changes-to-make-MCSPI3-work-on- the-Beagle-Board-expa" which was written for kernel version 2.6.28 (the current version which appears to me after the construction of the image is "Omap1 2.6.30"). In the repository are some version like: omap-linux-2.6.28 (original) and omap-linux-2.6.29 but oamp- linux-2.6.30 version does not exist. Any ideas?
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[11:58:16] <Crofton|work> I suppose I should update that patch to work with the current kernel .....
[11:59:08] <Crofton|work> also, I think mcspi4 works with the current kernel
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[12:19:43] <bbbb> hrw: No folder named qemu-native, temp, work found in ~/oe/openembedded/ path. I used find -name qemu-native command
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[12:20:21] <av500> gm Crofton|work
[12:20:26] <Crofton> gm
[12:29:03] <bbbb> hrw: No folder named qemu-native, temp, work found in ~/oe/openembedded/ path. I used find -name qemu-native command
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[12:30:55] <Jef_Patat> Has anyone recently tried to modify the splashscreen in u-boot?
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[13:10:24] <bbbb> hrw: No folder named qemu-native, temp, work found in ~/oe/openembedded/ path. I used find -name qemu-native command
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[13:17:49] <sakoman> koen: ping
[13:18:35] <Crofton|work> I think he is _koen_ atm
[13:19:02] <sakoman> Ah, he is being corporate this morning
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[13:19:45] <av500> he is being corporated!
[13:20:02] <sakoman> I pushed another 7 of the gnome related changes yesterday:
[13:20:11] <sakoman> http://www.sakoman.net/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=openembedded.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/overo
[13:20:34] <sakoman> another hundred or so and it will be done :-)
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[13:20:52] <_koen_> sakoman: thanks
[13:20:58] * _koen_ is at the UK office now
[13:21:10] <sakoman> they are spread all throughout the repo
[13:21:14] <hrw> bbbb: -name qemu-native*
[13:21:22] <Crofton|work> looks like you are just up the road from where I was born
[13:21:28] <sakoman> I'll do a bunch more today
[13:21:29] <hrw> bbbb: for future: set BBINCLUDELOGS="1" in local.conf
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[13:23:53] <Crofton|work> rands is amusing atm: http://www.randsinrepose.com/
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[13:24:10] <Crofton|work> Our favorite is "Thought Leadership"
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[13:26:31] <cajun-rat> "Stretch Goal" I've used that before...
[13:28:46] <Jef_Patat> Has anyone recently tried to modify the splashscreen in u-boot?
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[13:33:40] <_koen_> Jef_Patat: there is no splash screen in uboot, check the sources from u-boot git :)
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[13:48:25] <sprince09> hi all, i've a question about getting my USB wifi stick working with the beagle. I plug it in, but it doesn't show up when i run "ifconfig", and lsmod doesn't list any modules at all
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[13:49:01] <sprince09> i'm guessing that the beagle kernels are set up differently than a standard desktop OS?
[13:49:17] <sprince09> *running xubuntu
[13:49:29] <booxter> sprince09: of course
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[13:50:02] <booxter> sprince09: it's another hardware architecture in the first place :-\
[13:51:27] <sprince09> booxter: yeah, i know that... i guess I'm looking for how I would go about installing wifi drivers for my stick
[13:52:08] <booxter> sprince09: enable the needed wifi driver in config kernel and recompile the kernel for beagle
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[13:52:54] <sprince09> booxter: fair enough, how does one access the config kernel?
[13:53:13] <booxter> sprince09: it depends on how you built it
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[13:53:44] <booxter> generally, it's a matter of 'make menuconfig' or 'make xconfig'
[13:54:09] <sprince09> booxter: all right, i've got some research to do then
[13:54:16] <sprince09> booxter: thanks
[13:54:35] <booxter> np
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[13:57:29] <Jef_Patat> koen how can I then change the splash screen?
[13:58:29] <Jef_Patat> I tried this method but I don't seem to be able to get it working http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#U-Boot
[13:58:35] <mru> how can I change the unicorns?
[13:59:37] <Jef_Patat> good question
[14:00:03] <XorA> Jef_Patat: there is no support for splash in OE built u-boots
[14:00:21] <XorA> I beleive there is even a comment int he source telling you that
[14:00:30] * _koen_ looks at his opensdr lanyard
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[14:02:30] <Jef_Patat> I'm new to all of this
[14:02:58] <XorA> we eat newbs for lunch round here :-D
[14:03:19] <Jef_Patat> well, I'm fresh and tasty
[14:03:26] <XorA> nom nom nom
[14:03:45] <Jef_Patat> I'm even new to linux
[14:03:58] <Jef_Patat> maybe it's too early to start eating
[14:03:59] <XorA> heh, jumped in the deep end then
[14:04:33] <Jef_Patat> into the very dark deep
[14:04:43] <Jef_Patat> I'm still falling
[14:05:08] <Jef_Patat> I just got an oe built and running
[14:05:32] <Jef_Patat> now I made a custom u-boot and have everything booting from SD
[14:06:20] <Jef_Patat> my current goal is SPI but it seems a bit too complicated atm
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[14:09:55] <prpplague> Jef_Patat: what aspect of SPI are you wanting to use?
[14:10:37] <Jef_Patat> to goal is to be able to communicate with an external chip
[14:11:01] <prpplague> Jef_Patat: what chip?
[14:11:05] <Crofton|work> I am going to ride my bike for a while, but if I get a chance, I'll publish patches against current OE to enabel mcspi[3,4] and spidev
[14:11:21] <prpplague> Crofton|work: no, get back here
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[14:11:41] <Crofton> heh
[14:11:43] <Crofton> no
[14:11:50] <Crofton> need to ride b4 weather gets crappy
[14:11:52] <prpplague> ~lart Crofton
[14:12:13] <mru> _koen_: did you see my compiler benchmarks?
[14:13:01] <Crofton> prpplague, most of the info is on the linux-omap list
[14:13:16] <prpplague> Crofton: just messing with you today
[14:13:20] <Crofton> I just want to make a set against OE to make it easier for OE users
[14:13:24] <Crofton> yeah
[14:13:29] <Jef_Patat> prpplague, to have communication zith CANbus
[14:13:41] <prpplague> Jef_Patat: ahh
[14:13:43] <Crofton> I have the kernel pinmux working
[14:13:57] <Crofton> to ease things for people who need different setusp for the expansino connector
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[14:14:21] <prpplague> Crofton: give me a /msg when you get back
[14:14:34] <Jef_Patat> at this moment I'm focussing in trying to send something
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[14:14:50] <Jef_Patat> but it's really hard to find any information for a noob like me
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[14:18:29] <Crofton> Jef_Patat, you need spidev :)
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[14:18:36] <Crofton> that will wiggle bits
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[14:20:58] <_koen_> mru: yes I did, thanks for writing that up
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[14:21:54] <_dash_> hi all
[14:22:00] <Jef_Patat> I have noticed a couple of times while searching google results but haven't tried it
[14:22:24] <_dash_> anybody here with mplayer and omapfb ?
[14:22:28] <Jef_Patat> I'm not sure about the pin multiplexing yet and I need to be sure of that first
[14:23:29] <mru> _koen_: what is the default arm compiler in OE these days?
[14:24:24] <_koen_> 4.3.3
[14:24:45] <mru> why not codesourcery?
[14:24:51] <mru> it seems better to me
[14:25:00] <_koen_> 2009q1 seems to look ok
[14:25:01] <javaJake> It's not GNU?
[14:25:04] <javaJake> :P
[14:25:23] <mru> codesourcery are the gcc maintainers for several targets
[14:25:40] <_koen_> mru: but pretty much every CSL from 2005 to 2008 I tried make stuff segfault, so I'm apprehensive about using it
[14:25:50] <sakoman> _koen_: I tried the ROOTFS_POSTPROCESS_COMMAND += 'install_linguas;' trick, but it doesn't seem to work right
[14:26:01] <sakoman> It only installs the last item in the IMAGE_LINGUAS list
[14:26:13] <_koen_> sakoman: ah, hmmm, that would be a bug
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[14:27:56] <_koen_> the joy of conference calls
[14:28:07] <prpplague> _koen_: indeed
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[14:29:09] <sakoman> _koen_: but if you are there in person . . .
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[14:46:43] <sakoman> _koen_: I see what is behind my issue with IMAGE_LINGUAS
[14:46:59] <sakoman> I copied what you had in the demo image recipe
[14:47:23] <sakoman> which included things like de-de
[14:48:02] <sakoman> but the linguas code doesn't find any packages with a suffix of package-name-locale-de-de
[14:48:16] <sakoman> they are all named package-name-locale-de
[14:48:19] <_koen_> correct
[14:48:26] <_koen_> that's with it cuts the input as well
[14:48:32] <_koen_> it tries both de-de and de
[14:49:05] <sakoman> I guess that is the part that doesn't work then, because it only picks up the en-gb packages
[14:49:18] <sakoman> (which happend to be the final item in my list)
[14:50:19] <sakoman> I'll look at the code to see if I can figure out what is going wrong
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[15:04:13] <sakoman> _koen_: I think in "for translation in ${IMAGE_LINGUAS} $(echo ${IMAGE_LINGUAS}" you want LINGUAS_INSTALL instead of IMAGE_LINGUAS
[15:04:50] <_koen_> could be
[15:04:55] <_koen_> feel free to fix ;)(
[15:04:58] <_koen_> :)
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[15:05:33] <sakoman> _koen_: of course, just wanted to get your opinion
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[15:52:06] <ssvb> mru: nice benchmarks. btw, what was the size of generated code? especially for H.264 as it is quite huge and does not fit well instructions cache.
[15:52:52] <ssvb> mru: additionally, it would be interesting to play with ASE bit in u-boot as it should affect instructions cache use
[15:53:25] <ssvb> mru: currently it is set to 1 for whatever reason
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[15:54:59] <mru> ASE?
[15:55:18] <ssvb> mru: the one which is set along with L1NEON
[15:56:07] <ssvb> s/ASE/ASA
[15:56:09] <ssvb> sorry
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[16:17:44] <ssvb> mru: also 2007q3 results seem to be missing in the table
[16:18:00] <mru> ssvb: they're all 1
[16:18:06] <mru> since that's the reference
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[16:20:32] <ssvb> mru: ok, sorry, my bad. I did not read it carefully enough and thought it was something like time measured in minutes or seconds
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[16:21:00] <ssvb> mru: jumped from "lower is better" to the table itself :)
[16:25:34] <mru> I thought it was easier to make sense of the numbers like that
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[16:59:05] <javaJake> I thought gcc v4.4 added NEON support. Anyone know whether or not this is true, and if so, how to utilize this feature?
[16:59:16] <mru> hahahaha
[16:59:46] <javaJake> ??
[16:59:49] <mru> 4.4 has no more neon support than 4.3
[16:59:52] <javaJake> OK
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[17:01:58] <mru> gcc "supports" neon in the sense that it lets you use it in inline asm, sort of
[17:06:46] <rkirti> Which organization gives away the boards in the sponsored projects program ?
[17:07:09] <mru> TI
[17:07:59] <rkirti> mru: which office of TI is this ?
[17:08:40] <mru> wherever jkridner is
[17:08:56] <rkirti> mru: I see. Thanks.
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[17:25:33] <cajun-rat> I've got a working kernel and rootfs image onto the nand flash. How do tell uboot how to boot it automatically?
[17:26:13] <cajun-rat> at the moment I type nand read 80200000 280000 400000 ; setenv bootargs 'console=ttyS2,115200n8 console=tty0 root=/dev/mtdblock4 rootfstype=jffs2 rw rootwait' ; bootm 80200000 by hand
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[17:28:32] <adj> cajun-rat: first type that setenv bootargs thingie, then type: setenv bootcmd 'nand read 80200000 280000 400000; bootm 80200000'
[17:28:48] <adj> cajun-rat: and finally save them with saveenv
[17:29:27] <hoj> I tried to config 16bpp video using uboot's bootargs env, but still get 24bpp when loading SGX. I did not do saveenv in uboot. Do I need to for the video driver to see the bpp setting?
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[17:32:21] <cajun-rat> adj: Woot thanks!
[17:32:49] <hoj> I was able to workaround the 24bpp by unloading SGX, echoing "16" to the video driver /sys entry, then reloading the modules, but would like to know the right way.
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[17:52:58] <nano_nano> hi was wondering how the arm-cortex a8 support was going for flyswatter openCD. Any ideas?
[17:56:05] <prpplague> nano_nano: the icepick support is pretty much functional
[17:56:32] <prpplague> nano_nano: the cortex-m3 support was already in openocd, so adding in the A8 specific stuff along with mmu support is moving along
[17:56:55] <nano_nano> Cool
[17:57:34] <nano_nano> So at the moment we can update flash and look at registers? Is it something like that?
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[17:58:45] <ds2> and sakoman returns fire....
[17:59:41] <prpplague> http://www.elinux.org/BeagleBoardOpenOCD
[17:59:47] <prpplague> ds2: ping
[18:00:10] <nano_nano> thanks
[18:00:13] <ds2> prpplague: pong
[18:00:29] <prpplague> ds2: didn't you tell me you were looking for a s3c6410 board?
[18:01:21] <ds2> prpplague: _cheap_ 6410 board, i.e. not the embedian one if that's what you were going to say
[18:02:09] <prpplague> ds2: http://www.armdesigner.com/IDEA6410%20(new).html and http://www.armdesigner.com/KIT6410.html
[18:02:15] <prpplague> ds2: i ordered one of each
[18:03:27] <ds2> looking
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[18:03:50] <_dash_> hi all
[18:04:01] <_dash_> anybody there ?
[18:04:57] <ThomasEgi> asking that question in a channel with >100 people is a bit silly..
[18:05:07] <_dash_> ok
[18:05:45] <_dash_> Can anybody tell me how can i disable cursor while runnig console image ?
[18:06:00] <ds2> prpplague: and they accepted the order for just one?
[18:06:35] <prpplague> ds2: yea why/
[18:06:36] <prpplague> ?
[18:07:06] <ds2> prpplague: a lot of board places don't accept orders for 1 unless you buy their 23942394902840123814902384023849023840 dollar dev kit first
[18:07:27] <prpplague> ds2: hmm, never had that problem
[18:07:40] <jkridner|work> _dash_: what is the symptom you are trying to prevent?
[18:07:48] <ds2> prpplague: embedian does that
[18:08:03] <jkridner|work> _dash_: if you are just trying to avoid text showing up on the screen, you can avoid opening up a terminal on the console.
[18:08:21] <prpplague> ds2: ahh, i've used them, didn't like their prices or customer service
[18:08:54] <_dash_> jkridner|work: I am displying some images on fb0 with my application but I am seeing cursor in between
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[18:09:17] <ds2> prpplague: I see. if the board from this place arrives in your hands and you have checked your CC statement to make sure there were no surprise charges....
[18:09:27] <_dash_> jkridner|work: I have removed that text part from inittab
[18:09:37] <prpplague> ds2: we'll see
[18:09:48] <_dash_> jkridner|work: but still cursor is there
[18:09:48] <jkridner|work> _dash_: you might also look at your kernel command line.
[18:10:10] <_dash_> what should be the param to disable cursor ?
[18:10:54] <_dash_> jkridner|work: if u know it please tell me
[18:10:56] <ds2> prpplague: I only know of about 4 companies that don't do that game
[18:11:02] <jkridner|work> if you give the kernel command line....
[18:11:09] <jkridner|work> it should be fairly obvious what to remove...
[18:11:10] <_dash_> ok
[18:11:12] <jkridner|work> i don't recall.
[18:11:27] <ds2> don't think the commandline can help
[18:11:32] <jkridner|work> ds2: no?
[18:11:50] <jkridner|work> can't you have the console go out the serial port instead of the local console?
[18:12:01] <ds2> jkridner|work: no... you are thinking of doing the quiet trick, right?
[18:12:28] <ds2> yes you can but that won't disable the drop to text thing
[18:12:32] <_dash_> jkridner|work: console=ttyS2,115200n8 noinitrd root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rw rootfstype=ext3 rootwait omapfb.mode=dvi:1280x720-24@60 omapdss.def_disp=dvi
[18:12:57] <_dash_> ds2: My console is on serial only
[18:13:05] <jkridner|work> _dash_: guess ds2 is right, at least mostly, I thought there would be a tty0 in your console=.
[18:13:09] <ds2> _dash_: *nod*
[18:13:14] <ds2> there are other ways
[18:13:28] <_dash_> dropping of text thing has been disabled from inittab
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[18:13:45] <jkridner|work> but the cursor still disrupts the video image, right?
[18:13:46] <ds2> has nothing to do with userland stuff, IIRC
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[18:13:59] <jkridner|work> is there no sysfs entry that can do it?
[18:14:06] <_dash_> but I am unable to disable cursor
[18:14:13] <ds2> not that I know of
[18:14:30] <jkridner|work> so, it requires a kernel hack?
[18:14:31] <_dash_> ds2: so directly code modification in fbcon ??
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[18:14:43] <ds2> no, just a kernel reconfig
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[18:15:02] <jkridner|work> what about outputting something to the console so that the cursor is transparent?
[18:15:10] <_dash_> ds2: what option in reconfig ?
[18:15:32] <_dash_> I am serching one in config
[18:15:47] <prpplague> _dash_: you application needs to place the console fb in graphics mode
[18:15:48] <ds2> don't recall off hand, it is pretty obvious in menuconfig
[18:16:32] <_dash_> ds2: yup but in menuconfig I am not finding one which is guggestive
[18:16:51] <_dash_> *suggestive
[18:17:14] <_dash_> prpplague: I am not getting u
[18:17:26] <prpplague> _dash_: one second
[18:17:55] <_dash_> ok
[18:18:28] <_dash_> Also I want to disable monitor going blank after some time
[18:18:45] <_dash_> I checked with pwr management which is already disabled
[18:19:13] <ds2> wonder if rich @ esc got fired... latest ESC spam doesn't have his name on it...
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[18:21:06] <prpplague> _dash_: http://asm.sourceforge.net/articles/fb.html
[18:21:42] <prpplague> _dash_: you need to use the KD_GRAPHICS flag
[18:21:53] <_dash_> ok thanks
[18:22:18] <ds2> prpplague: heh, you becoming a userland folk ;)
[18:22:47] <prpplague> ds2: hehe, naw, just one of those items i'm familair with
[18:23:40] <ds2> prpplague: have you heard of asmutils?
[18:24:14] <prpplague> ds2: yea
[18:24:27] <ds2> prpplague: know if anyone is actively getting that onto ARM for EABI?
[18:24:43] <ds2> that thing makes busybox look like Windows Vista ;)
[18:25:02] <prpplague> ds2: hehe
[18:26:34] <prpplague> _dash_: here is another reference - http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/2783
[18:27:00] <_dash_> thanks
[18:27:35] <prpplague> _dash_: np
[18:28:40] <_dash_> prpplague: Looks helpful
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[18:28:51] <_dash_> I will checkout in app
[18:29:29] <_dash_> one more thing .... my screen is going off after some time
[18:29:39] <_dash_> I checked for pwr management
[18:29:53] <_dash_> it is disabled
[18:30:00] <prpplague> _dash_: thats the standard console blanking, there are a number of utilities you can use to turn that off
[18:30:02] <_dash_> then what else can do this ?
[18:30:25] <ds2> setterm
[18:30:43] <prpplague> _dash_: setterm is the most popular app for controlling console features
[18:31:06] <_dash_> ok
[18:31:13] <ds2> isn't it also the oldest?
[18:31:25] <ds2> seem to recall mucking with in in the 0.99 days
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[18:31:56] <_dash_> ds2: So if I use setterm that wil stop blanking after some time right ?
[18:32:11] <prpplague> ds2: yea probably the oldest, but there a number of small apps during the early busybox days
[18:33:07] <ds2> _dash_: you can configure it. See man page
[18:33:34] <_dash_> ok
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[18:34:20] <prpplague> _dash_: you can also use setterm to turn off the cursor if you need to
[18:34:32] <prpplague> _dash_: (i.e. instead of using KD_GRAPHICS)
[18:35:23] <_dash_> yup got entire thing
[18:35:47] <_dash_> ds2: prpplague: thanks for ur help
[18:35:53] <cajun-rat> has anyone else noticed the left/right channels on the audio out jack are swapped?
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[18:36:18] <prpplague> _dash_: np, glad to share when i can
[18:36:59] <prpplague> cajun-rat: they aren't swapped, your output device is mislabled. hehehe
[18:37:25] <cajun-rat> wikipedia says left ==tip :)
[18:37:40] <prpplague> cajun-rat: (that was a joke)
[18:39:22] <cajun-rat> one more 'quirk' to add somewhere
[18:39:31] <_av500_> cajun-rat: just turn around....
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[18:40:23] <dirk2> prpplague: Unfortunately, nano-nano is already away, but BeagleBoardOpenOCD page isn't really up to date (OpenOCD is moving to fast). Last status I tried is https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/openocd-development/2009-June/008256.html
[18:40:43] <cajun-rat> i'm going to lobby amazon to sell mp3s with the chan's swapped
[18:40:59] <prpplague> dirk2: ahh thanks
[18:41:07] <dirk2> prpplague: And I think to remember a mail from Dave (or was it Magnus and his patches?) that flashing should be possible
[18:41:09] <ds2> prpplague: is the wiring diagram for the flyswatter adapter available or does one have to reverse engineer it?
[18:41:17] <ds2> cajun-rat: it is a trivial swap in software
[18:41:22] <_av500_> cajun-rat: how do you know they dont already ;)
[18:41:25] <prpplague> ds2: it is posted
[18:42:03] <cajun-rat> i could just change wikipedia
[18:42:37] <dirk2> ds2: http://tincantools.com/assets/BeagleBoard_JTAG_Adapter.pdf
[18:42:46] <_av500_> ds2: normally we have one bug per product generation that says "L&R swapped", coz there is like 10 places in the whole chain to get it wrong, so one of them hits...
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[18:43:21] <_av500_> cajun-rat: thats the spirit!
[18:43:43] <prpplague> ds2: http://www.tincantools.com/assets/FLYSWATTER_REV-B.pdf
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[18:44:22] <ds2> dirk2: thanks
[18:44:35] <ds2> prpplague: I just wanted the adapter cable that dirk2 pointed out
[18:44:46] <prpplague> ahh
[18:44:48] <ds2> easy enough to wire it
[18:45:58] <ds2> _av500_: heheh, it is pretty trivial to fix in either sw or hw... it is almost easy enough to put a spare gate on the L/R signal from the McBSP and have a GPIO decide if it should be inverted or not
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[18:49:08] <_av500_> ds2: we never had to use a gate for that, SW fixed it nicely all the time
[18:51:39] <ds2> _av500_: it is nice when sw actually talks to other people
[18:52:29] <_dash_> prpplague: I have got setterm but lacking proper terminal
[18:52:53] <_dash_> it disables my serial cursor
[18:53:06] <_dash_> I want to disable monitor one
[18:53:16] <_dash_> I mean dvi one
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[19:01:24] <pfoetchen> I just compiled https://garage.maemo.org/projects/qemu/ but somehow it does not accept any input at all ( no matter if I use -nographics or not ) but the strange thing is that if I do echo bla | qemu-sytem-arm... it stops the u-boot autoboot and switches to the u-boot console but I can still not type in anything...
[19:01:30] <_dash_> ds2: prpplague: What terminal type is required by setterm for my dvi o/p ?
[19:01:57] <pfoetchen> I use the newest version from git...
[19:02:26] <_dash_> me too
[19:02:43] <_dash_> but what is -term to override with ?
[19:03:42] <_dash_> if I do enable disable cursor it works for my serial port terminal
[19:03:56] <_dash_> I want to disavble same one on dvi
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[19:25:32] <pfoetchen> the strange thing is that even if I do -monitor stdio the monitor does not receive any keystroke...
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[19:28:20] <pfoetchen> curses interface does not work either :(
[19:28:24] <pfoetchen> very strange...
[19:28:32] <pfoetchen> I will try with another machine....
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[19:30:20] <Crofton> well, I've killed the mux thread
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[19:32:39] <sakoman> Crofton: OK, I won't make any further comments :-)
[19:32:51] <Crofton> heh
[19:32:57] <Crofton> I want to get it sorted out
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[19:56:11] <_av500_> sakoman: couldnt the board muxes overwrite the common ones where they overlap?
[19:56:29] <_av500_> instead of applying board after common...
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[20:28:49] <sakoman> _av500_: how would you do that? ifdefs in the common defs?
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[21:16:25] <pfoetchen> does not work on another machine either... is anybody able to actually use the qemu from https://garage.maemo.org/projects/qemu/ ? I tried on two completely different machines but it simply shows no response at all to my inputs no matter if I choose nographic or not..
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[21:19:50] <pfoetchen> it works with other machines (I tested the verdex machine) but the beagleboard simply does not want to work... is there a trick or something to get it to work?
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[23:02:08] <djlewis> hi guys...
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