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IRC Log for 2010-02-05

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  6. [00:14:41] <s4wrxttcs> anyone familiar with how to install all the python packages available using the opkg command?
  7. [00:15:25] <s4wrxttcs> I'm trying to get the Cherokee webserver working, It does work, but the cherokee-admin won't work without a python
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  9. [00:16:04] <s4wrxttcs> so I install python, but the cherokee-admin still doesn't work
  10. [00:16:18] <s4wrxttcs> but it does work on another machine with a LOT more python packages installed
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  12. [00:16:43] <s4wrxttcs> none of the documentation seems to tell me which package it wants
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  14. [00:17:53] <s4wrxttcs> note - this on a beagleboard using sakomans gnome for beagleboard
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  19. [00:30:46] <torusle> my chilli-coke tastes really good!
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  27. [01:11:21] <s4wrxtt> I really like the gnome environment on the beagleboard, but it has drawing issues
  28. [01:11:30] <s4wrxtt> where it leaves patches of garbage on the screen
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  31. [01:15:19] <s4wrxtt> where enlightment is faster, doesn't have drawing issues. but I hate the lack of copy and paste in the terminal
  32. [01:15:25] <s4wrxtt> or I'm doing something wrong
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  37. [01:28:06] <djlewis> in angstrom term you can left button hold, drag over test, right click on end of line to copy.
  38. [01:28:37] <djlewis> of course let up the left button before using right one.
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  41. [01:28:50] <djlewis> test = text
  42. [01:30:33] <djlewis> that was for s4wrxtt
  43. [01:30:39] <s4wrxtt> thanks
  44. [01:30:41] <s4wrxtt> I'll try it
  45. [01:31:42] <djlewis> I copy paste between my Beagle and my workstn all the time.
  46. [01:32:05] <djlewis> I too prefer the gnome terminal. Multiple tabs, works great etc.
  47. [01:32:39] <s4wrxtt> do you get the graphical glitches?
  48. [01:33:55] <djlewis> I get some green blotches at times. sakoman is looking into it.
  49. [01:34:18] <s4wrxtt> yeah thats it
  50. [01:34:24] <s4wrxtt> if it was just a bit faster
  51. [01:34:38] <s4wrxtt> and without the graphical glitches
  52. [01:34:59] <djlewis> I'd say it performs as well as a 500Mhz with 256M ram can be expected to considering the overhead.
  53. [01:35:13] <s4wrxtt> I'm using it on a C4
  54. [01:35:19] <djlewis> :P
  55. [01:35:20] <s4wrxtt> err, rev c4
  56. [01:35:35] <djlewis> still :P
  57. [01:35:37] <s4wrxtt> my c3 got stolen
  58. [01:35:41] <djlewis> sorry man.
  59. [01:35:54] <djlewis> I am using last years C2
  60. [01:36:10] <s4wrxtt> anytime something can do a lot of things its gets stolen for someone else's project
  61. [01:36:36] <djlewis> can you hunt down the scoundrel and put some hurt on em?>
  62. [01:36:55] <s4wrxtt> I sorta assisted so I could get the C4 board
  63. [01:37:09] <s4wrxtt> the 720MHz chip and the USB host fix seemed like a good idea
  64. [01:37:09] <djlewis> ah, the truth trickles out...
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  66. [01:37:45] * djlewis is waiting for the next generation before getting another.
  67. [01:38:19] <s4wrxtt> *can't wait till they have a cortex a9 version
  68. [01:38:26] <s4wrxtt> but that will probably be awhile
  69. [01:39:10] <djlewis> I find the c2 to be a very good board. Just a little troublesome with usb webcam.
  70. [01:40:01] <s4wrxtt> I'm just glad the problem has been resolved
  71. [01:40:13] <fenn> is it generally much faster to copy an entire image to an sd card with "dd" than to "cp" the individual files?
  72. [01:40:16] <s4wrxtt> one of those really nasty problems
  73. [01:40:28] <s4wrxtt> fenn - I'd say so
  74. [01:41:03] <s4wrxtt> assuming lots of files, etc
  75. [01:41:49] <fenn> ok that explains why it's taking so long (over 30 mins for 600MB)
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  77. [01:43:01] <s4wrxtt> *has no clue how to get php to work with cherokee
  78. [01:43:21] <s4wrxtt> all I want to do is to trigger something (even like an LED) via a website
  79. [01:43:27] <s4wrxtt> cherokee works
  80. [01:43:30] <s4wrxtt> php is installed
  81. [01:43:36] <s4wrxtt> I can configure cherokee
  82. [01:43:59] <s4wrxtt> *googles for examples
  83. [01:46:41] * djlewis can light a led with his rabbit 3700 board via WEB page
  84. [01:47:00] <s4wrxtt> is that running linux?
  85. [01:47:08] <djlewis> Hardly... heheee
  86. [01:47:21] <djlewis> just a little c prog
  87. [01:47:23] <s4wrxtt> yeah, doing it on a PIC was so much easier
  88. [01:47:38] <djlewis> Pic with a web page?
  89. [01:47:46] <s4wrxtt> yeag
  90. [01:48:07] <s4wrxtt> yeah, some of the recent ones have a netwok port
  91. [01:48:27] <djlewis> yep the omap is not so straight forward where toggling gpio is concerned.
  92. [01:48:44] <s4wrxtt> the gpio I can do
  93. [01:48:58] <s4wrxtt> its figuring out how to get it from the webpage to the C program
  94. [01:49:07] <s4wrxtt> that my knowledge has a giant hole in it
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  96. [01:55:20] <ds2> fenn: are you doing it in OE? if so, that's because the default is to mount things SYNC
  97. [01:56:28] <fenn> no i am just flailing around with parted and wondering what the difference is between all these disk images
  98. [01:57:03] <fenn> apparently kooen's narcissus image builder doesn't install an MLO or u-boot.bin to the /boot?
  99. [01:57:19] <ds2> MLO must be in the root directory
  100. [01:57:34] <ds2> u-boot.bin needs to be but it is less of a must
  101. [01:57:43] <fenn> that doesn't work if /boot is the bootable partition
  102. [01:57:50] <fenn> or at least i dont think it would
  103. [01:58:05] <ds2> Oh you are looking at it from inside the running environment?
  104. [01:58:09] <fenn> no
  105. [01:58:18] <fenn> i have an sd card mounted to /mnt/...
  106. [01:58:20] <ds2> MLO/u-boot.bin needs to be in the first partition, FAT32, root directory
  107. [01:58:36] <fenn> right
  108. [01:58:43] <ds2> then?
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  110. [02:07:48] <fenn> well, now it displays orange instead of half of a beagle :)
  111. [02:08:15] <fenn> so at least i know it's loading something from the card
  112. [02:08:17] <ds2> as in you see a citrus fruit instead of a dog mooning you? ;)
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  114. [02:08:46] <fenn> humorous, but no, just the color
  115. [02:12:05] <s4wrxtt> okay, so now php scripts can run via a webpage
  116. [02:12:12] <s4wrxtt> so I'm close to my goal
  117. [02:12:17] <s4wrxtt> I think
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  129. [02:52:08] <tomatoes7> i just got my beagleboard, its missing a pin on the jtag port
  130. [02:52:32] <tomatoes7> is it supposed to be missing?
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  132. [03:01:14] <djlewis> tomatoes7: your bible
  133. [03:01:15] <djlewis> http://beagleboard.org/static/BBSRM_latest.pdf
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  135. [03:03:45] * fenn wonders why the 1939MB image won't fit on the 1949MB partition
  136. [03:04:12] <fenn> fortunately i expected this to take all day/week
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  138. [03:04:31] <ds2> how are you dd'ing?
  139. [03:04:51] <fenn> time sudo dd if=Angstrom-Beagleboard-demo-image-glibc-ipk-2009.X-dev-20090903-beagleboard.rootfs.img of=/dev/sdb2 bs=1024
  140. [03:05:06] <ds2> try bs=2048k
  141. [03:05:15] <ds2> the bigger block size seems to help
  142. [03:05:41] <fenn> why would that matter? (trying now)
  143. [03:05:51] <ds2> not sure
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  145. [03:06:18] <ds2> there seems to be some large magic numbers that sped things up last year when we were all dd'ing SD cards for ESC
  146. [03:08:39] <fenn> i wonder if the demo image could be slightly less packed to the gills, as maybe all "2GB" cards are not created equal
  147. [03:08:56] <ds2> definitely all 2G cards are not equal
  148. [03:09:31] <fenn> ran out of space with bs=2048k
  149. [03:09:34] <fenn> oh well
  150. [03:09:45] <ds2> at least you knew before you went to bed ;)
  151. [03:10:01] <ds2> try it... it may work to at least get somewhere
  152. [03:10:11] <ds2> it all depends on how the partition table was setup
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  155. [03:13:39] <fenn> i can't even mount the filesystem. i'd rather not have one more source of unexplained errors anyway
  156. [03:13:59] <ds2> then you best create the SD by hand and use the tarballs
  157. [03:14:05] <fenn> yeah
  158. [03:14:19] <fenn> it was just taking a long time to copy files, upwards of an hour
  159. [03:14:22] <ds2> it is a pretty straight forward process
  160. [03:14:43] <ds2> that's probally because you have it mounted as sync...mount it by hand or use the option to disable sync mounting
  161. [03:14:44] <fenn> trying a stripped down version from narcissus now
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  164. [03:27:04] <djlewis> fenn: putting together a SD can be done in <= 15 minutes
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  166. [03:27:15] <hinv> howdy,
  167. [03:27:21] <djlewis> ho
  168. [03:27:36] <hinv> anybody know the difference between the c3 and c4 beagleboards?
  169. [03:27:52] <djlewis> a 3 and a 4
  170. [03:27:57] <fenn> djlewis: i'm sure it can, once you figure it out
  171. [03:27:57] <djlewis> ;)
  172. [03:28:36] <djlewis> fenn: I been there. built so many SD's testing I got it down. Still follow a howto I wrote though
  173. [03:29:13] * djlewis has far too many "slept since then" moments :P
  174. [03:30:00] <djlewis> hinv: 1 major dif, = more stable EHCI
  175. [03:30:21] <djlewis> so they say
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  186. [03:54:28] <djlewis> night
  187. [03:54:34] * djlewis (~4b0f4303@gateway/web/freenode/x-merymlchiggrncka) Quit ()
  188. [03:55:45] <hinv> djlewis, can you point me to where I would find the documention on this, like "release notes"?
  189. [03:56:11] <hinv> I heard that the c4 is also 720MHz. Is that true?
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  212. [05:05:29] <ds2> Hmmm
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  214. [05:17:58] <torusle> Ha! 10% speedup of my DSP code...
  215. [05:18:13] * torusle celebrates.
  216. [05:18:21] <ds2> remove all those sleep(1) calls don't count :P
  217. [05:19:43] <torusle> I restructured my innerloops a little bit..
  218. [05:21:13] <torusle> I can now demosaic a camera-image with 167 megapixels/second..
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  222. [05:27:01] <torusle> funny thing btw: dsplink only initializes the DSP to use half of the caches on start...
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  225. [05:38:07] <jkridner|work> Crofton|work: have you seen http://www.datasoft.com/ds-hardware.php ?
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  253. [06:27:38] <Differentkindof> Anyone using ubuntu arm?
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  255. [06:28:24] <Differentkindof> Or angstrom actually... I have a few really strange questions
  256. [06:28:43] <fenn> really strange questions?
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  258. [06:29:00] <Differentkindof> Well here's my Linux experience in general
  259. [06:29:18] <Differentkindof> Have used redhat know very minor amounts of c++
  260. [06:29:34] <Differentkindof> And recently have switched to ubuntu meh
  261. [06:29:35] <av500> sorry for you on both accounts :)
  262. [06:29:51] <Differentkindof> Thinking of picking up an sbc
  263. [06:29:59] <Differentkindof> Beagleboard seems sweet
  264. [06:30:10] <Differentkindof> But since I oversimplify things
  265. [06:30:12] <av500> 'tis
  266. [06:30:27] <fenn> i always overcomplicate things
  267. [06:30:39] <Differentkindof> I was wondering that if angstrom and ubuntu etc most distros have make
  268. [06:30:48] <fenn> GNU make? of course
  269. [06:30:57] <Differentkindof> And a package I wanna use employs c and tcl
  270. [06:31:01] <av500> make cost extra
  271. [06:31:18] <fenn> please send an envelope full of cash to my P.O. box which i'll be sending shortly
  272. [06:31:18] <Differentkindof> I dint see why it would be a pain to make/build the package
  273. [06:31:28] <Differentkindof> Hehe
  274. [06:31:48] <Differentkindof> I mean excepting lobs that may be dependencies or some such
  275. [06:32:07] <Differentkindof> Right? (here's where you say no you're stupid)
  276. [06:32:10] <fenn> if its a package you don't generally need to compile anything
  277. [06:32:20] <Differentkindof> I mean tarball
  278. [06:32:27] <Differentkindof> Source sorry
  279. [06:32:58] <Differentkindof> As I said I'm surely oversimplifying and I'm forgetting curvature of the earth or some such
  280. [06:33:07] <fenn> well, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, doesn't matter what you know
  281. [06:33:10] <av500> the earth is flat!
  282. [06:33:19] <Differentkindof> Doh flat earthers abound
  283. [06:33:47] <Differentkindof> But let's say I make it it'll throw an error if there's something wrong eh
  284. [06:33:47] <fenn> so Differentkindof did you have a question?
  285. [06:34:14] <Differentkindof> Yeah will puredata extended build on angstrom or ubuntu arm on a beagleboard?
  286. [06:34:49] <fenn> hm. does that require a realtime kernel or anything?
  287. [06:35:04] <Differentkindof> Doesn't require but I think it's helpful
  288. [06:35:15] <Differentkindof> I've run it on STD and rt kernels before
  289. [06:35:26] <fenn> i dont see any reason it wouldnt work
  290. [06:35:48] <Differentkindof> It's more my total unfamiliarity with arm and being told stoff needs massive work to port
  291. [06:36:01] <Differentkindof> And me not getting what I must be missing
  292. [06:36:31] <Differentkindof> And not being able to tell f any source is arch dependent if it's not stated x86
  293. [06:37:08] <fenn> try building for x86 first then
  294. [06:37:31] <Differentkindof> Right right on STD ubuntu no a problem ever
  295. [06:37:56] <Differentkindof> So all should be well excepting some freaky non ported libraries I guess
  296. [06:38:10] <Differentkindof> Yay pd and gephex would make life awesome
  297. [06:38:23] <av500> .....versions exist for Win32, IRIX, GNU/Linux, BSD, and MacOS X running on anything from a PocketPC to an old Mac to a brand new PC
  298. [06:38:37] <Differentkindof> I think DJWillis would throttle me I'd he was listening
  299. [06:39:18] <Differentkindof> Yeah but pure data anywhere (PDA) is crippled hard and that's the only standard arm version I've seen around
  300. [06:39:42] <Differentkindof> So I figured smarter people than I ran into problems which would mean I'd be lost
  301. [06:40:39] <Differentkindof> I mean I just have to wait for sweet hardware to show up and tinker
  302. [06:41:03] <Differentkindof> I was just hoping to get at least prepped
  303. [06:41:09] <av500> Differentkindof: well, the BB is a tab more powerfull than your average PDA from 5ys ago...
  304. [06:41:17] <Differentkindof> So I don't chuck hardware towards a wall
  305. [06:41:27] <Differentkindof> I assumed <g>
  306. [06:41:49] <Differentkindof> The beagles just seem so cool
  307. [06:42:26] <Differentkindof> Ordered one and the lucite case
  308. [06:43:32] <Differentkindof> That being said I thank you all for putting up with my stupidity and I will sleep better now
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  313. [07:04:51] <tushar> hi i am new to beagle board. i just purchased a board and powered it though otg
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  315. [07:05:36] <tushar> power led is glowing on but USR0 and USR1 leds are not glowing. PMU STAT is blinking once in 3 sec
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  317. [07:05:56] <tushar> as per http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardBeginners USR0 and USR1 should glow
  318. [07:06:44] <tushar> i also tried rs232 link(using proper cable and baud rate and other settings) but not getting any response from board
  319. [07:06:50] <tushar> what should i do?
  320. [07:14:39] <av500> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardRecovery
  321. [07:15:01] <fenn> wtf. after 4 hours of "bad input signal" on the monitor, the furnace turns on and i get a new user creation screen
  322. [07:15:01] <av500> http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleboardRevCValidation
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  324. [07:26:46] <adj> fenn: I must admire your patience as for most of us waiting for even 10 minutes is too long :)
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  353. [09:05:40] <XeMa> Hello everyone
  354. [09:05:58] <XeMa> did anyone tried the UART recovery ?
  355. [09:06:18] <XeMa> I flashed the x-load.bin
  356. [09:06:21] <dhaval1> Hello everyone.. I want to do hardware accelerated decoding of video using TI Gstreamer plug-in, I downloaded angstrome image from narcissus online builder with support for TI gstreamer plug in, do i need to install DVSDK for running Gstreamer with hardware accelerated encode/decode?
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  359. [09:07:07] <XeMa> but the u-boot it is not working !
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  361. [09:07:23] <XeMa> Failed after 4 retries in sequence 0 - success send = 0 bytes Data transmit failed
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  375. [09:37:45] <hgs> hi everyone, in omap3530 (silica 3.1), when playing videos which were downloaded to MMC (mounted as rootfile system), using wget i found the video playback to be stuttering, sometimes the following error is getting displayed , "EXT2-fs error (device mmcblk0p1): ext2_free_blocks: EXT2-fs error (device mmcblk0p1): ext2_free_blocks: bit already cleared for block 1109360bit already...",
  376. [09:37:46] <hgs> but if i play the content which was already uploaded to mmc from PC, i found the issue was occuring can any one clarify this/
  377. [09:38:36] <hgs> sorry small correction in the last message: but if i play the content which was already uploaded to mmc from PC, i found the issue was "not" occuring can any one clarify this
  378. [09:41:50] <hgs> iam passing the following bootargs "mem=88M console=ttyS0,115200n8 noinitrd root=/dev/mmcblk0p1 rw rootfstype=ext2 rootdelay=5 $(video_arg)" am i missing something ?
  379. [09:42:01] <hgs> like sync??
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  390. [10:19:47] * hrw-gone-fosdem is brussels
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  392. [10:20:22] <av500> you are brussels?
  393. [10:21:39] <turtle_> i got my beagleboard connected to my laptop over rs232, i can't type anything at the prompt "OMAP3 beagleboard.org #"
  394. [10:22:01] <hrw-gone-fosdem> in
  395. [10:22:05] <av500> you connected it wrong
  396. [10:22:15] <hrw-gone-fosdem> free slow wifi ate letters
  397. [10:22:20] <mru> turtle_: you're using the wrong idc-dsub adaptor with a straight instead of crossover cable
  398. [10:23:09] <turtle_> you mean my rx and tx lines need to cross over?
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  401. [10:23:40] <hrw-gone-fosdem> time to go
  402. [10:24:02] <av500> turtle_: no, as you can see the prompt one line is ok, the other is not
  403. [10:24:40] <av500> so your idc-dsub adaptor is wrong
  404. [10:24:56] <turtle_> damn
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  406. [10:25:57] <turtle_> should i get a new null modem cable?
  407. [10:25:59] <av500> http://www.klikhome.com/demos/BBSerial.jpg
  408. [10:26:06] <av500> thats is what you need in the end
  409. [10:26:56] <turtle_> umm ok
  410. [10:27:06] <turtle_> switch the 2 and the 3?
  411. [10:27:15] <av500> no
  412. [10:27:19] <nrossi> 5 = ground, 2 = Tx (of the BB) 3 = Rx (of the BB)
  413. [10:27:21] <av500> [11:24] <av500> turtle_: no, as you can see the prompt one line is ok, the other is not
  414. [10:28:10] <turtle_> better get out my continuity tester
  415. [10:28:22] <av500> yup
  416. [10:34:16] <turtle_> i'm glad i have an old cut DB9F to F
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  418. [10:35:37] <turtle_> hmmm
  419. [10:35:41] <turtle_> its late
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  421. [10:37:29] <turtle_> av500, thanks for the help, goodnight all
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  456. [12:46:29] <siji> hi all
  457. [12:46:59] <siji> am trying to build angstrom for beagle with clutter support
  458. [12:47:13] <siji> so anybody can mention the procedure for it
  459. [12:48:11] <av500> angstrom is not cluttered enough?
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  461. [12:48:46] <siji> av500, ??
  462. [12:48:52] <av500> never mind
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  528. [15:31:11] <ajd> list
  529. [15:31:22] <av500> file not found
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  536. [15:43:07] <ajd> Can the OMAP Resizer hardware be used on the beagleboard?
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  539. [15:43:50] <prpplague> ajd: resizer hardware?
  540. [15:44:43] <_koen_> ISP resizer
  541. [15:44:44] <av500> ajd: yes
  542. [15:44:52] <av500> both
  543. [15:45:02] <av500> ISP and DSS resizers work
  544. [15:47:52] <ajd> av500: i'm a newbie. is there a kernel module i need?
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  547. [15:50:38] <av500> ajd: I think there is one
  548. [15:50:46] <av500> but what do you want to resize?
  549. [15:51:48] <ajd> av500: hi res imagery to be output on s-video
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  551. [15:52:17] <av500> and it is in contigous memory buffers?
  552. [15:52:43] <ajd> yes
  553. [15:52:50] <av500> good
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  558. [16:07:16] <djlewis> gm
  559. [16:07:25] <av500> gm
  560. [16:07:29] <djlewis> _av500_: ping
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  562. [16:08:16] <djlewis> _av500_: hi, earlier you pasted a link to the BB serial image.
  563. [16:08:41] <djlewis> It shows conflicting wiring to page 114 of the latest bbsrm
  564. [16:09:11] <djlewis> even pins on left and odd on right.
  565. [16:09:55] <djlewis> I can see it if it is the pov of the pc end
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  568. [16:10:47] <av500> it is from you
  569. [16:10:56] <av500> feel free to update the jpg, my bookmakr stays :)
  570. [16:12:08] <djlewis> Just seems it should be labeled, connect those PC pin numbers to the header as shown.
  571. [16:12:25] <djlewis> otherwise it wont help a newbie at all
  572. [16:12:56] <av500> update it
  573. [16:13:02] <djlewis> nope.
  574. [16:13:07] <av500> wasnt it yours?
  575. [16:13:10] <djlewis> nope
  576. [16:13:16] <av500> ah, my bad
  577. [16:13:29] <av500> i will ask china to take that server off the net
  578. [16:13:54] <djlewis> and please ask them to lay off google while you are at it ;)
  579. [16:14:16] <av500> sure
  580. [16:14:19] <djlewis> :)
  581. [16:16:03] <djlewis> time for me to get ready to join society tis day.
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  592. [16:35:52] <sam_> is the beagle board wireless enabled
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  594. [16:36:59] <muriani> not initially, you can add a USB wifi adapter though
  595. [16:37:34] <sam_> is the USB wifi is being provided with the beagleboard
  596. [16:38:23] <muriani> no
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  599. [16:39:38] <sam_> does the beagleboard support video streaming
  600. [16:40:13] <av500> depends
  601. [16:40:31] <bgamari> Does the Beagle board driver not have any spi_board_info in 2.6.32?
  602. [16:40:50] <sam_> depends on video type or ????
  603. [16:41:59] <av500> video type, resolution, streaming protocoll, etc etc etc
  604. [16:42:35] <sam_> ok then will u plz mention which file type does it support?
  605. [16:43:22] <av500> no, got my own homework to do atm
  606. [16:44:43] <djlewis> muriani: long time no see.
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  608. [16:44:59] <muriani> anything you have a decoder for. The beagle has a generic DSP that can be coded how you liek.
  609. [16:45:02] <muriani> ooor nevermind
  610. [16:45:06] <muriani> yeah, it's been awhile
  611. [16:46:13] <muriani> I'm pissed about the Wrap920 glasses not being transparent as we were promised :(
  612. [16:46:35] <muriani> all my HUD dreams went away.
  613. [16:46:42] <djlewis> bummer
  614. [16:47:01] <muriani> ah well.
  615. [16:47:18] <muriani> I'm gonna try some of these projects people have been working on
  616. [16:47:22] <muriani> android, nthplayer, etc
  617. [16:47:30] <djlewis> cool
  618. [16:47:48] <muriani> I think I might have a winner with android on the device, given the touch-centric UI and the availability of apps
  619. [16:48:18] <muriani> as much as I loathe that everything rins through a VM
  620. [16:48:30] <muriani> at least it'll be as fast as the Droid :P
  621. [16:48:56] <muriani> if there was a recent maemo5 release for it, I'd try that.
  622. [16:49:01] <av500> muriani: you can program native code nicely
  623. [16:49:08] <av500> on android
  624. [16:49:29] <av500> use java for the ui and jni for the grunt
  625. [16:49:32] <muriani> and package it as .apk?
  626. [16:49:42] <av500> sure
  627. [16:49:44] <muriani> I've not really dug into android.
  628. [16:49:53] <muriani> huh, I wonder why more people aren't doing that.
  629. [16:50:08] <muriani> davlik's fast, but it's not native fast.
  630. [16:50:26] <av500> muriani: ppl do that
  631. [16:50:33] * djlewis has to head to the office, later guys...
  632. [16:50:41] <av500> you think all the nav guys rewrote their engines in java?
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  634. [16:50:48] <muriani> hm. I don't know that I've seen any examples of it
  635. [16:51:01] <av500> I have
  636. [16:51:11] <muriani> oh, I've not looked at any nav stuff outside stock maps
  637. [16:51:32] <av500> same for a lot of guys that existed on other platforms before
  638. [16:51:46] <muriani> I'll have to give that a look-see later
  639. [16:52:12] <muriani> I'm mostly gonna be running Pandora on it if I can :P
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  667. [18:42:49] <ds2> morning
  668. [18:42:57] <tahsin> can anyone help me? i recently compiled an image with rootstock.. and the username doesnt show up in gui login
  669. [18:43:33] <tahsin> and running xfce4
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  671. [18:50:29] <tahsin> can anyone help me? i recently compiled an image with rootstock.. and the username doesnt show up in gui login
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  674. [18:54:57] <torusle> hi everyone.
  675. [18:55:14] <tahsin> hey
  676. [18:55:20] <tahsin> can anyone help me? i recently compiled an image with rootstock.. and the username doesnt show up in gui login
  677. [18:55:29] <torusle> no idea..
  678. [18:55:55] <tahsin> hmm this is the first time i am having this problem too
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  680. [18:56:14] <torusle> I don't even know what rootstock is...
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  682. [18:58:17] <tahsin> i see
  683. [18:58:37] <ds2> please STOP repeating
  684. [19:00:03] <tahsin> ok
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  686. [19:01:37] <ogra> tahsin, come over to #ubuntu-arm for rootstock questions
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  688. [19:05:06] <torusle> does anyone know if the DSP of the OMAP3530 still has the MAR-registers, or have they been removed in favor to some MMU settings?
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  690. [19:16:42] <torusle> to answer my own question: They still exist.
  691. [19:20:10] <torusle> Grrrrr and they aren't set up properly..
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  695. [19:40:07] <torusle> Oh the subtle differences between DaVinci and OMAP3530...
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  697. [19:41:40] <chroos> does anyone know about programming the arm core on the omap lowlevel?
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  699. [19:43:22] <prpplague> chroos: almost everyone you are going to meet are using an OS on the omap3, the only developers who will be running in a lowlevel mode are those doing development work on x-load and u-boot
  700. [19:44:13] <prpplague> chroos: if you want look at how those are built, that might give you some ideas
  701. [19:44:36] <prpplague> chroos: is there a specific reason you don't want to run an OS on the omap3 ?
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  703. [19:46:07] <chroos> prpplague i want to use it as an development board
  704. [19:46:28] <prpplague> chroos: and you are unable to do that running an OS?
  705. [19:47:02] <ds2> write u-boot applets
  706. [19:47:11] <chroos> no, but i just dont want to use an OS
  707. [19:47:34] <prpplague> chroos: well you are going to find you will be re-inventing alot of stuff to make it work
  708. [19:47:52] <chroos> thats what i want
  709. [19:47:53] <prpplague> chroos: easiest would be start out looking at u-boot and how it is built
  710. [19:48:14] <ds2> u-boot is not an OS
  711. [19:48:53] <prpplague> ds2: was that a statement for me or chroos ?
  712. [19:50:22] <chroos> but whats so wrong in not using an os?
  713. [19:50:46] <ds2> prpplague: more for chroos
  714. [19:51:12] <chroos> if i am able to programm the arm core, its a standard microcontroller and i already have access to the dsp core
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  716. [19:51:35] <chroos> i just thought my devboard would give me direct accres to both cores
  717. [19:51:42] <prpplague> chroos: the cortex-a8 really isn't considered a microcontroller
  718. [19:52:16] <prpplague> chroos: just that in order to take advantage of many of the features for the OMAP3 you are going to have to do _alot_ of work
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  721. [19:52:48] <prpplague> chroos: if you are limiting it to just some very basic features, then you probably could get away with it
  722. [19:53:11] <chroos> i use an omap-l138 with arm9 core
  723. [19:54:21] <chroos> prpplague what do you mean ?
  724. [19:54:25] <chroos> with a lot of work
  725. [19:55:30] <ds2> chroos: in that case, start with the ARM-ARM then look at the TRM
  726. [19:55:37] <ds2> or vice versa
  727. [19:55:44] <prpplague> chroos: for example, if you wish to use a SD card on your device, you will need to write a SD card driver from scratch, or perhaps you want to communicate with a peripheral via SPI, then you will need to write code for that
  728. [19:56:30] <chroos> prpplague yes, that how it works on embedded systems and that what i want to do
  729. [19:56:42] <chroos> im not new to that stuff just new to omap
  730. [19:57:29] <prpplague> chroos: the comparison you are probably thinking of is more for microcontrollers, working with Systems-on-Chips is a totally different ball park
  731. [19:57:48] <prpplague> chroos: but hey, whatever floats your boat
  732. [19:57:56] <chroos> i bought it because of the dsp.. and i thought it would be nice to have the arm as nice co-core
  733. [19:58:29] <chroos> i know some nice synthesizers that are made with that dsp
  734. [19:59:19] <chroos> and ti says its a full dsp PLUS the arm core, so i dont think i am that much restricted
  735. [20:03:32] <torusle> chroos, if the user-mode restrictions come into the way you can always put the stuff into a kernel-module..
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  750. [20:43:54] <SM1> i am trying to install a package i compiled with bitbake
  751. [20:44:06] <SM1> and i am getting errors like Multiple packages (ti-dsplink-module and ti-dsplink-module) providing same name.
  752. [20:44:06] <SM1> Installing ti-dsplink-module (1613-r46a.1) to root...
  753. [20:44:06] <SM1> Collected errors:
  754. [20:44:06] <SM1> * Package ti-dsplink-module md5sum mismatch. Either the opkg or the package in.
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  757. [20:45:18] <SM1> it means it doesn't match the "official" package somewhere, right? so can I force it to install mine?
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  764. [21:13:57] <torusle> Argh! I get attacked by a spam-bot...
  765. [21:14:01] <torusle> damn!
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  774. [21:35:07] <SM1> still trying to figure this out: can i force opkg to install something regardless of md5 mismatch?
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  808. [22:55:37] <gregoiregentil> Ping felipec?
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  811. [22:57:13] <felipec> gregoiregentil: pong
  812. [22:57:30] <gregoiregentil> felipec: I have a question regarding gst-dsp
  813. [22:57:38] <gregoiregentil> and that may interest other people so I'm posting here
  814. [22:57:52] <gregoiregentil> Can jpeg images be decoded by DSP with libomxil-bellagio on the userspace side, plus the right code in DSP? Does libomxil-bellagio depend on libomxil-ti? I guess that I don't need at all gst-openmax. Could it conflict with gst-dsp?
  815. [22:58:23] <awozniak> test
  816. [22:58:40] <felipec> gregoiregentil: libomxil-bellagio and libomxil-ti are independent
  817. [22:59:16] <gregoiregentil> OK. libomxil-bellagio has some libjpeg libraries, so I guess that it can decode jpeg images. Moreover, it's mentioned on the website
  818. [22:59:30] <gregoiregentil> but I don't understand what is doing the link (=the call) to the DSP side?
  819. [22:59:30] <felipec> there's a dsp jpeg decoder, but I haven't used it either with gst-dsp or gst-openmax
  820. [22:59:44] * prpplague is now known as prpplague_afk
  821. [22:59:51] <gregoiregentil> So I have two questions:
  822. [23:00:06] <felipec> gregoiregentil: yeah, but most problably it's using libjpeg... so it's the same as GStreamer's jpegdec
  823. [23:00:08] <gregoiregentil> do you know what is doing the link bewteen liboxmil-bellagio and the DSP side?
  824. [23:00:24] <felipec> gregoiregentil: bellagio doesn't use the DSP
  825. [23:00:52] <gregoiregentil> OK. that clarifies the situation...
  826. [23:01:30] <gregoiregentil> so two more questions ;-)
  827. [23:01:45] <gregoiregentil> are you aware of a project that is using dsp jpeg image decoding?
  828. [23:02:38] <gregoiregentil> And have you ever seen the jpegdec_sn.dll64P in the 3.x binaries release or is it only in the 4.x binaries release?
  829. [23:02:59] <gregoiregentil> the bonus question being: have you managed to make work the 4.x binaries with gst-dsp?
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  833. [23:03:38] <felipec> gregoiregentil: no, I don't know of anyone using the DSP jpegdec
  834. [23:03:55] <felipec> gregoiregentil: and no, I've only seen the binaries from 0.3.5 working... that's it
  835. [23:04:09] <felipec> I heard TI was supposed to make a release about these days
  836. [23:04:41] <_ANY__> felipec I have a couple of question too :)
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  838. [23:05:11] <gregoiregentil> felipec: Thanks for the answer I appreciate (I'm disappointed!)
  839. [23:05:28] <gregoiregentil> felipec: Please keep posed gst-dsp mailing list if you see working 4.x binaries
  840. [23:05:31] <_ANY__> If I use the DSP to dcode a video I will get the mpeg data or they go directly on the screen?
  841. [23:05:45] <felipec> gregoiregentil: it shouldn't be that difficult to add support for jpegdec to gst-dsp
  842. [23:05:58] <felipec> _ANY__: you get the data back
  843. [23:06:15] <gregoiregentil> so you would go it through gst-dsp. Interesting...
  844. [23:06:38] <gregoiregentil> but obviously, we need to have the jpegdec dll, so it means that we have to wait to make work 4.x. Am I correct?
  845. [23:06:51] <felipec> gregoiregentil: indeed
  846. [23:08:00] <_ANY__> felipec: you know where i can find a simple mpeg (video) player source that use the DSP? i need study how it work and gst is too big to learn basic stuff
  847. [23:10:43] <felipec> _ANY__: have you looked at gst-dsp? you don't need to be familiar with GStreamer for most of the code
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  849. [23:12:47] <_av500_> gregoiregentil: looking to speed up the touchbook? :)
  850. [23:12:51] <_ANY__> to be honest i didn't look at it :)
  851. [23:14:08] <gregoiregentil> _av500_: Yup! I had an interesting request for a big Touch Book bulk order but the guy wants to decode 1024x576 JPG in 80 ms. I'm wondering how I can speed up for this.
  852. [23:14:25] <_ANY__> felipec: the rootfs you released is based on what? can I update it in an easy way (read apt-get or opkg)?
  853. [23:15:45] <gregoiregentil> _av500_: I'm in competition against the JooJoo. The whole community should help me so that OMAP wins!!!
  854. [23:15:53] <felipec> _ANY__: I used buildroot... so nope, it's supposed to be built once
  855. [23:16:59] <_av500_> gregoiregentil: i can help you more on the dsplink/codec engine side
  856. [23:17:10] <_ANY__> felipec: Thanks i'll go to look at gst-dsp source
  857. [23:17:26] <gregoiregentil> _av500_: I woud love to... This thread is interesting: http://e2e.ti.com/support/dsp/davinci_digital_media_processors/f/99/p/6199/23288.aspx
  858. [23:17:27] <_av500_> felipec: i build buildroot all the time, not just once :)
  859. [23:17:57] <_av500_> gregoiregentil: the commercial jpeg decoder we have here does like 10mpixel per second i think
  860. [23:18:24] <gregoiregentil> At least, if you can give me some numbers, I would be very interested
  861. [23:18:33] <gregoiregentil> to understand if I can achieve this or not...
  862. [23:18:58] <ds2> _av500_: so your thing can play high res MJPEG's at full speed?
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  864. [23:19:31] <_av500_> vga it does I think
  865. [23:20:01] <ds2> this is DCT jpeg only, right?
  866. [23:20:16] <_av500_> the one that decodes holiday snaps...
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  868. [23:20:46] <ds2> I guess that is DCT only... donno of many (any?) J2K based cameras around
  869. [23:21:02] <_av500_> right, no 2k
  870. [23:21:14] <_av500_> we never came across a single sample in the wild
  871. [23:21:20] <_av500_> no user complained
  872. [23:21:26] <ds2> I knew some folks who were looking for a J2K accelerator
  873. [23:22:04] <_av500_> i dunno how much neon there is already in arm side jpeg decoders, e.g ffmpeg
  874. [23:22:26] <_av500_> ill aks mru tomorrow
  875. [23:22:36] <ds2> i thought ffmpeg uses libjpeg for stills?
  876. [23:22:45] <Yuvi> idct, jpeg doesn't have anything else worth writing in NEON I think
  877. [23:22:47] <_av500_> i doubt it
  878. [23:22:58] <_av500_> Yuvi: right
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  880. [23:23:06] <_av500_> did benchmarks on a8
  881. [23:23:09] <_av500_> ??
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  883. [23:23:38] <_av500_> ds2: ppl say u dont want to use libjpeg :)
  884. [23:23:51] <Yuvi> iirc for ~1000x1500 or so I got around 10 fps on my beagle, but it's been a while
  885. [23:24:06] <Yuvi> probably less
  886. [23:24:14] <ds2> _av500_: Hmmmm
  887. [23:24:20] <_av500_> 10fps would meet gregoiregentil demands already
  888. [23:24:31] <_av500_> is 100ms for twice the res
  889. [23:25:32] <ds2> _av500_: tangential question here.... does your thing handle very very large JPEGs properly? i.e. a 10240x10240 JPEG viewed a bit at a time through a 800x480 (or smaller) window that can scroll around?
  890. [23:25:43] <_av500_> ds2: yup
  891. [23:26:00] <ds2> _av500_: seriously?
  892. [23:26:02] <_av500_> dunno what the limit was, maybe not 100mpixel :)
  893. [23:26:07] <ds2> oh
  894. [23:26:12] <_av500_> lemmy check
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  896. [23:27:19] <ds2> _av500_: been looking for a small thing that can view DRGs (Basically high res scans of 1:24000 topo maps) and they are roughly that size
  897. [23:27:25] <_av500_> ds2: ill get back to you on that
  898. [23:27:37] <_av500_> what is DRG?
  899. [23:28:16] <ds2> Digital Raster Graphics
  900. [23:28:29] <ds2> http://topomaps.usgs.gov/drg/
  901. [23:28:30] <ds2> that stuff
  902. [23:29:16] <ds2> USGS provide them as huge tiff's.. one way around them is to chop them into tiles but it would be nice to view the original scan with the collar (border area)
  903. [23:30:24] <_av500_> ds2: ok, the dsp codec has max res 16k x 16k
  904. [23:30:53] <ds2> hmm
  905. [23:31:18] <_av500_> ds2: send me a jpg, i can try
  906. [23:31:22] <DaveDavenport> :D
  907. [23:35:07] <ds2> _av500_: they are in TIFF natively, you need to run them through imagemagik or equiv
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