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IRC Log for 2010-03-15

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  2. [00:16:33] <Brokie> look at the date?
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  8. [00:35:19] <Brokie> ds2, the internets are broken... what did you do?
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  37. [02:25:46] <jkridner> Brokie: catching up from earlier. That's pretty cool.
  38. [02:27:59] <wroberts1> anybody running eclair?
  39. [02:29:26] <tdh2002> Hi everyone!
  40. [02:29:33] <tdh2002> have a good weekend
  41. [02:29:37] <jkridner> hi tdh2002.
  42. [02:30:03] <tdh2002> A new week start!
  43. [02:30:11] <jkridner> too many of my hours were spent working this weekend for my taste.... and not just hobbying on the BB.
  44. [02:30:31] <jkridner> I'm having a bit of fun right now trying to get the touchscreen working on the Xenarc display with the BeagleBoard.
  45. [02:31:03] <wroberts1> jkridner: i ordered a devkit8000 because i thought that thing was too expensive
  46. [02:31:08] * jkridner wonders if calibrateproto is as good as Calibrate mentioned at http://elinux.org/Xenarc_USB_touchscreen_for_Beagleboard/OMAP3_EVM
  47. [02:31:18] <jkridner> indeed, it is overpriced...
  48. [02:31:28] <jkridner> and the price has gone up, as I think lots of people have bought them.
  49. [02:31:43] <tdh2002> wroberts1:where do you but devkit?
  50. [02:31:47] <jkridner> you can get $99 DVI-D monitors some places though...
  51. [02:31:52] <jkridner> just not with touchscreen.
  52. [02:32:13] <jkridner> _koen_ was pointing me to a 230euro 22" monitor with touchscreen.
  53. [02:32:17] <jkridner> that's not too bad.
  54. [02:32:30] <wroberts1> tdh2002: from embedinfo.com (but it ships from china)
  55. [02:33:43] <tdh2002> out company buy 2 pic devkit's core boards
  56. [02:33:51] <tdh2002> our company buy 2 pic devkit's core boards
  57. [02:34:47] <tdh2002> wroberts1:how much do you buy it ?
  58. [02:34:53] <wroberts1> 7" lcd adds $130 to the $149 board
  59. [02:36:21] <DanaG> oh yeah, with the touchscreen from specialcomp.com, how do you use it?
  60. [02:36:32] <DanaG> is omapdss smart enough to figure out the screen resolution, and all that?
  61. [02:37:18] <tdh2002> wroberts1:how much is the freight
  62. [02:37:30] <wroberts1> $54
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  65. [02:38:22] <tdh2002> (*_*) very expensive!
  66. [02:38:34] <wroberts1> i bought one because 0xdroid announced support
  67. [02:39:32] <tdh2002> it seems all omap3530 boards support oxdroid~
  68. [02:43:04] <muriani> I need to get proper networking support in 0xdroid
  69. [02:43:23] <muriani> this usb host networking stuff is poo
  70. [02:45:20] <muriani> wroberts1: I have embinux's eclair running on beagle
  71. [02:45:36] <muriani> slow video though, haven't got the accelerated video going yet
  72. [02:46:12] <wroberts1> i wonder if there are any open-source powervr/sgx implementation
  73. [02:46:28] <muriani> not to my knowledge
  74. [02:46:45] <wroberts1> i wonder if its possible to steal driver from motorola droid phone
  75. [02:47:16] <muriani> it's likely using the currently available blob.
  76. [02:47:31] <muriani> you can get it going with the TI drivers, from what I understand
  77. [02:48:17] <jkridner> _koen_: it looks like xf86-input-evtouch needs to be rebuilt.
  78. [02:48:51] <wroberts1> rowboat has also put up eclair, but its shit right now
  79. [02:49:22] <muriani> anyhoo, I'm out for the night. See you guys in the morning.
  80. [02:49:25] <muriani> *poof*
  81. [02:49:35] <Brokie> lol
  82. [02:49:39] <Brokie> *pood*
  83. [02:50:27] * mru is mostly pleased with nexus
  84. [02:50:55] <wroberts1> ah yes, i've had an N1 for a week or so
  85. [02:51:22] <thurbad> what do you do if opkg "can not obtain an administrative lock"?
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  88. [02:56:23] <slmodo> hello everyone
  89. [02:57:00] <slmodo> I was wondering what you guys are using for jtagging the beagleboard?
  90. [02:57:26] <mru> most of us don't need to jtag it
  91. [02:57:55] <slmodo> well i have an issue where one of the dev's have made the beagle board unuseable
  92. [02:58:06] <mru> impossible
  93. [02:58:25] <mru> unless they found a way of erasing ROM
  94. [02:58:30] <slmodo> yes
  95. [02:58:43] <thurbad> load up an SD with recodery utils on it
  96. [02:58:47] <wroberts1> mru: cyanogenmod is good for nexus one
  97. [02:59:03] <mru> what does that do?
  98. [02:59:16] <slmodo> doesn't it need uboot or some type of boot loader?
  99. [02:59:22] <mru> no
  100. [02:59:40] <djlewis> thurbad: sounds like another instance of opkg is running
  101. [02:59:40] <wroberts1> mru: cyanogen has rebuild android with new kernel and android goodies
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  103. [03:00:14] <thurbad> I need to do that with one of my boards.. unfortunately the SD slot also broke a week after getting it
  104. [03:00:30] <thurbad> djlewis, nope
  105. [03:01:04] <thurbad> I can install other stuf just can't specify an offline root for mplayer's ipks
  106. [03:01:50] <GrizzlyAdams> slmodo: format a fresh sd card, load the mlo and uboot onto it, if you can't make that work, use the serial port to upload uboot, then uboot, and erase the flash
  107. [03:02:08] <slmodo> ok
  108. [03:02:30] <GrizzlyAdams> (i have gotten to a point where mlo / uboot were attempting to boot from flash, even when holding the user button)
  109. [03:03:02] <slmodo> uboot is no longer on the nand
  110. [03:03:11] <slmodo> sorry rom
  111. [03:03:15] <GrizzlyAdams> elinux wiki and the beagleboard google project wiki
  112. [03:03:37] <thurbad> you were right the first time :)
  113. [03:03:49] <GrizzlyAdams> rom is the internal bootloader inside the omap itself which is impossible to erase without either A: a big power surge, or B: a FIB
  114. [03:03:56] <slmodo> ok
  115. [03:04:10] <slmodo> well of course as you can see i'm still new to this so i'm working through it
  116. [03:04:15] <thurbad> flash is the same thing as nand in the case of the beagleboard
  117. [03:04:19] <slmodo> ok
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  119. [03:04:26] <slmodo> thanks
  120. [03:05:37] <thurbad> hmm, if I move the ipks to root and specify the full filename, I get further.. but it still fails the md5sum check
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  122. [03:11:39] <tdh2002> Is there someone know how to let angstrom support Chinese?
  123. [03:15:49] <thurbad> have you tried installing the locale?
  124. [03:22:14] <tdh2002> Last week i fail in building angstom!
  125. [03:22:29] <tdh2002> bak luck~_~
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  147. [04:53:36] <davilla> is there a guide around for building a deb to use with rootstock
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  159. [05:19:30] <venkat> is anybody knows LTP project?
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  162. [05:21:07] <SaBh> Hello,Am facing problems in loading the Linux Kernel onto the beagleboard.
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  164. [05:21:57] <venkat> anybody knows LTP?
  165. [05:21:58] <SaBh> I get message like request_module :: runaway loop modprobe binfmt-ffff
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  167. [05:22:45] <SaBh> Am using only uboot.scr & uImage,do I need to use ramdiskfs also?
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  212. [08:08:50] <eFfeM> ~logs
  213. [08:08:56] <eFfeM> ~log
  214. [08:09:14] <eFfeM> ah this bot does not do thise
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  232. [09:19:02] <hrw> morning
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  234. [09:27:14] <hrw> someone know status of DSS2 merging?
  235. [09:30:53] <av500> its in mainline, no?
  236. [09:32:59] <_koen_> hrw: .33 should have it
  237. [09:33:16] <_koen_> hrw: but no-one submitted beagleboard support for it yet
  238. [09:34:47] <hrw> _koen_: I use bug2.0 as omap3 main platform now
  239. [09:35:31] <hrw> with 2.6.31 now
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  242. [09:41:12] <hrw> koen: how stable 2.6.32-psp is?
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  246. [09:57:50] <siji> hi all
  247. [09:57:55] <siji> am hving some basic qery
  248. [09:57:57] <siji> query
  249. [09:58:10] <hrw> "SELECT * FROM table" one?
  250. [09:58:18] <siji> i am hving Ti 's 3.00.09 SD K
  251. [09:58:21] <siji> :)
  252. [09:58:36] <siji> will it included gles 1.1
  253. [09:58:39] <siji> version too?
  254. [09:58:56] * hrw has no idea
  255. [09:59:17] <siji> ok
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  258. [10:06:18] <siji> _koen_, any idea ?
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  260. [10:10:04] <_koen_> .09 is old
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  262. [10:12:48] <siji> ok
  263. [10:13:11] <siji> _koen_,btw will it includes opengles 1.1 too ?
  264. [10:13:17] <siji> or the latest version ?
  265. [10:14:38] <siji> cose am using clutter 0.8 for our Application development in beagle
  266. [10:14:41] <_koen_> bot 1.1 and 2.0 are supported for gles
  267. [10:15:23] <siji> u mean 1.1 libraries also there with TI's SDK
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  286. [10:46:31] <Brokie> _koen_
  287. [10:46:39] <Brokie> I'm working on a recipe...
  288. [10:46:52] <Brokie> How to call a script in the build directory?
  289. [10:46:58] <Brokie> like...
  290. [10:47:05] <Brokie> ./bootstrap.sh
  291. [10:47:22] <Brokie> ??
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  302. [11:15:05] <hrw> 1.4MB has 001-394 combined patch for vim7.2
  303. [11:15:24] <av500> ?
  304. [11:16:07] <hrw> ops, wrong channel
  305. [11:16:31] <jkridner> good morning all
  306. [11:16:37] <hrw> hi jkridner
  307. [11:16:50] <jkridner> I'm still looking for contributions to http://tinyurl.com/bbgsoc.
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  316. [11:40:44] <_koen_> jkridner: the narcissus manifest looks like this now: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/narcissus/deploy/beagleboard/test-image-manifest.html
  317. [11:45:27] <Crofton|work> jkridner, did you get a SoC appliation in?
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  322. [11:59:46] <jkridner> Crofton|work: yes, but the ideas page still needs work.
  323. [12:00:08] <jkridner> I tried to focus on just a handful of projects and go into greater depth, but didn't get there.
  324. [12:07:29] <Crofton|work> heh
  325. [12:07:35] <Crofton|work> it does look better though
  326. [12:07:52] <Crofton|work> I suspect it ill be very competetive
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  328. [12:08:46] <Crofton|work> Cathy needs to use the list to motivate uni's to do interesting projects regardless :)
  329. [12:09:03] <Crofton|work> you can always have the TI SoC
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  334. [12:17:47] <jkridner> Crofton|work: just need $$$
  335. [12:17:57] <jkridner> and HH:MM.
  336. [12:19:02] <jkridner> _koen_: I love the addition of the licenses.
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  339. [12:19:35] <jkridner> is there a single SRC_URI for every package?
  340. [12:20:05] <jkridner> What license is on all the patches in OE?
  341. [12:20:22] <jkridner> GPLv2?
  342. [12:21:10] <jkridner> auditing all of these licenses is going to be fun. :-|
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  344. [12:24:26] <mm_> Hello to all!
  345. [12:25:06] <_koen_> jkridner: the patches are supposed to have the same license as the source they are patching
  346. [12:25:17] <Brokie> hello _koen_
  347. [12:25:18] <mm_> Is there someone to ask a clarification?
  348. [12:25:33] <Brokie> I'm making my first recipe today
  349. [12:25:43] <Brokie> we'll see how it goes
  350. [12:25:54] <jkridner> _koen_: what about he SRC_URI?
  351. [12:26:06] <Crofton|work> patches usually follow the main packages license in my opinion
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  353. [12:26:15] <Crofton|work> most do not have explicit license info
  354. [12:26:35] * Crofton|work hears an echo
  355. [12:26:51] <mm_> I would try a chinese clone of Beagleboard: Devkit8000! Someone has some feedback for this board?
  356. [12:27:05] <Crofton|work> mm_, I haven't seen one
  357. [12:27:10] <jkridner> Crofton|work: no, I meant is there ever more than one SRC_URI to a package?
  358. [12:27:20] <jkridner> I know there can be several file:/// references and patches....
  359. [12:27:42] <_koen_> there's only one SRC_URI
  360. [12:28:13] <Crofton|work> things can be appended to it
  361. [12:28:33] <jkridner> but, I wonder if we can give essentially two links for every project and be done with pointing to the sources, though we are still planning on somehow delivering the source in our target rootfs for the BeagleBoard-xM.
  362. [12:28:40] <_koen_> Crofton|work: but everything ends up in the Source: field in the resulting package
  363. [12:29:17] <_koen_> jkridner: I have a call with the OSRB scheduled to talk about that a bit
  364. [12:31:08] <jkridner> Brokie: did you find ${S}?
  365. [12:31:40] <Brokie> yep
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  367. [12:31:48] <Brokie> now I have to make libGLEW
  368. [12:31:51] <Brokie> ...
  369. [12:31:59] <Crofton|work> _koen_, I lack context, scanning recipes or some derived field
  370. [12:32:02] <Brokie> and it appears others have had trouble with it
  371. [12:32:03] <jkridner> Brokie: invoking a script is as simple as calling it in the right phase: do_compile or whatever. and I guess you might have seen http://docs.openembedded.org/usermanual/html/recipes_sources.html.
  372. [12:32:15] <Brokie> yep
  373. [12:32:19] <Brokie> its been my bible
  374. [12:32:52] <jkridner> Crofton|work: _koen_ is working on some code to produce a manifest...
  375. [12:33:18] <Crofton|work> yeah, he showed me a page
  376. [12:33:20] <jkridner> for us to ship Angstrom on the BeagleBoard-xM, there needs to be a list of all the licenses used as well as being compliant to those licenses.
  377. [12:33:30] <jkridner> most of the licenses require us to provide the source.
  378. [12:33:34] <Crofton|work> yeah, great idea
  379. [12:33:50] <Crofton|work> in this case, best just to provide all sources :)
  380. [12:34:08] <jkridner> _koen_: do you have any idea what mechanism will be used to create the source .ipks? or would it just be done with a script?
  381. [12:34:18] <jkridner> indeed, but in what form?
  382. [12:34:25] <jkridner> patched?
  383. [12:34:30] <Crofton|work> giant directory :)
  384. [12:34:40] <Crofton|work> the licenses do not say it has to be easy :)
  385. [12:35:05] <jkridner> can we just capture the OE work directory and tar it? (seems like that could get ugly and have a lot of wasted space with extra binaries).
  386. [12:35:35] <jkridner> would be nice if there was some compression on all that text that would be sitting in the rootfs.
  387. [12:35:41] <Crofton|work> I think there are lots of ways to do it
  388. [12:36:00] <Crofton|work> I would provide the OE tree and the sources
  389. [12:36:12] <Crofton|work> that gets you sources, patches, and how they are combined
  390. [12:36:14] <_koen_> jkridner, Crofton|work: I was thinking about http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/classes/sourcepkg.bbclass
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  392. [12:36:25] <jkridner> any git expert here know how to list all of the files that are pending being touched in a merge/rebase?
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  394. [12:36:52] <Crofton|work> _roger_, gm
  395. [12:36:58] <jkridner> _koen_: are we committing to having that stick around? I thought that was what you said was a temporary hack.
  396. [12:37:37] <_koen_> jkridner: you're confusing that with PACKAGES =+ "${PN}-sourcetree"
  397. [12:38:13] <jkridner> confusing the two assumes that I knew any details of either of them. :)
  398. [12:38:59] <jkridner> FYI, I believe there are some BeagleBoard classes going on at ICASSP today.
  399. [12:39:20] <Crofton|work> hmm, I need to send you guys a paper or two from the workshop I was at
  400. [12:39:26] <_koen_> jkridner: did gerald should you the sw they are going to run?
  401. [12:39:44] <_koen_> jkridner: _roger_ and I made a nice GNOME image with gst-ti and sgx stuff integrated
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  404. [12:46:34] <jkridner> _koen_: cool. no, I didn't see it.
  405. [12:47:04] <jkridner> what is different with that image vs. what is pre-built in Narcissus?
  406. [12:47:19] * jkridner looks back at my attempts to rebuild the evtouch Xorg driver.
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  408. [12:47:43] <jkridner> oh, right, I started a rebase for some reason and can't remember what conflicts I have to merge.
  409. [12:47:59] * jkridner doesn't understand why there are conflicts in my attempt to rebase.
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  412. [12:53:13] <jkridner> 'git diff' helped. strange, I thought last night that it didn't.
  413. [12:53:30] <jkridner> my rebase is now chugging along nicely.
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  416. [12:59:13] <srljjsj> Hi, which is the best distribution to support FLASH?
  417. [13:00:16] <jkridner> non-volatile storage or Adobe?
  418. [13:00:27] <srljjsj> Adobe
  419. [13:00:40] <Crofton|work> rofl
  420. [13:00:41] <jkridner> if you want Adobe Flash, you are probably best of going with a commercial distribution.
  421. [13:01:04] <jkridner> you can get SWFDEC and GNASH support in several distros.
  422. [13:01:08] <Crofton|work> flash is dead, Steve Jobs said so
  423. [13:02:11] <buZz> there is some guy fixing flash on omap
  424. [13:02:20] <buZz> by stealing binaries ;)
  425. [13:02:32] <jkridner> yeah, :(.
  426. [13:02:41] <srljjsj> but I think if I can use BB to watch youtobe, It's great :)
  427. [13:02:41] <buZz> see http://myigep.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=415
  428. [13:02:45] <jkridner> lots of commercial vendors provide flash for OMAP3.
  429. [13:02:49] <buZz> srljjsj: check that link
  430. [13:02:57] <srljjsj> Thx
  431. [13:03:46] <jkridner> I believe YouTube has started to support the Video tag, which should eventually replace Flash.
  432. [13:04:09] <buZz> jkridner: yeah, http://www.youtube.com/html5
  433. [13:04:25] <jkridner> I'd rather recommend people reject Adobe software than to pirate Adobe software.
  434. [13:05:01] <buZz> well i have no problems with whatever software ppl want to run on their hardware, it's their choice
  435. [13:08:17] * XorA has been watching youtube without flash for years
  436. [13:08:46] <jkridner> _koen_: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom's source-me.txt seems to want to put 'bitbake' under the openembedded git tree.
  437. [13:08:59] <buZz> man, this html5 beta sux, doesnt even support ogg video :)
  438. [13:09:01] <jkridner> _koen_: it also lacks a download of bitbake.
  439. [13:09:02] <XorA> jkridner: that is where it is for stable
  440. [13:09:15] <jkridner> ah.
  441. [13:09:21] <XorA> jkridner: stable has the required bitbake as part of the repo
  442. [13:09:24] * jkridner self-alters for unstable then.
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  454. [13:29:38] <srljjsj> firefox support html5 but not support H264?
  455. [13:30:15] <hrw> patents?
  456. [13:30:33] <srljjsj> T_T
  457. [13:30:35] <av500> ph34r of patents
  458. [13:31:53] <av500> and unwillingness to have pluggable codec
  459. [13:31:56] <av500> +s
  460. [13:33:20] <srljjsj> so we couldn't use it to watch http://www.youtube.com/html5 forever?
  461. [13:33:38] <av500> forever?
  462. [13:33:44] <av500> I cant want utube for 10minutes...
  463. [13:34:16] <srljjsj> ....
  464. [13:36:09] <XorA> greasemonkey + totem make such a cooler solution :-)
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  467. [13:40:45] <buZz> if w3c will accept h264 as option for html5 it will surely be supported by firefox
  468. [13:41:08] <av500> w3c did not accept anything
  469. [13:41:18] <av500> it is <video>, same as <image>
  470. [13:41:20] <buZz> exactly, they are still undecided
  471. [13:41:24] <av500> no codec mandated at all
  472. [13:41:33] <av500> no, I dont think they will *decide*
  473. [13:41:51] <buZz> hehe yeah, they aren't very good in this
  474. [13:42:02] <av500> I think they decided to not decide
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  479. [13:47:52] <buZz> [ 11.898315] omapfb omapfb: illegal display bpp
  480. [13:47:56] <buZz> arg
  481. [13:48:15] <buZz> you would assume omapfb.mode=tv:ntsc lets it pick a supported bpp
  482. [13:49:24] * buZz tries without omapfb.mode
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  491. [13:57:16] <buZz> hmm
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  501. [14:02:54] <anunakin> how can I change screen resolution after boot?
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  504. [14:08:39] <jkridner> anunakin: I believe it is possible to poke the DSS settings using /sys/devices/omapdss
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  507. [14:09:37] <yann361> is someone use i2c2 and rtc0 ?
  508. [14:09:51] <buZz> does this look like a DSS2 driver that is correctly outputting to SVideo ? http://etc.servehttp.com/dmesg_with_omapdssdebug
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  511. [14:10:37] <PierrotLafouine> hi, my first time chat, anybody hear me ?
  512. [14:10:48] <av500> no :)
  513. [14:11:04] <PierrotLafouine> lol, thanks, want to validate my setup
  514. [14:11:39] <jkridner> anunakin: documentation is in the kernel Documentation/arm/OMAP/DSS file (http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=blob;f=Documentation/arm/OMAP/DSS)
  515. [14:12:11] <jkridner> welcome to #beagle PierrotLafouine!
  516. [14:12:25] <PierrotLafouine> thanks,
  517. [14:12:49] <PierrotLafouine> Is there someone know where I can get lateast U-Boot source code ?
  518. [14:13:17] <PierrotLafouine> I'm on wiki for Beagleboard, links seams to be broken
  519. [14:13:58] <adj> PierrotLafouine: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#U-Boot
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  522. [14:14:46] <PierrotLafouine> thanks adj
  523. [14:15:11] <jkridner> which wiki had a broken link?
  524. [14:16:05] <jkridner> btw, the mainline doesn't have C4 support yet. I believe khasim submitted patches on the mailing list, but they haven't been accepted yet.
  525. [14:16:47] <adj> hopefully they will be accepted soon
  526. [14:16:58] <_koen_> jkridner: sakoman is preparing beagle patches as well, so can khasim coordinate with him?
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  530. [14:25:17] <PierrotLafouine> I should have said outdated links : http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleSourceCode
  531. [14:26:10] <PierrotLafouine> I feel like there are too many spread info on the web for beagle board. I feel kinda lost
  532. [14:27:17] <buZz> welcome to the 21th century ;)
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  535. [14:28:14] <jkridner> my apologies. C4 launch was a bit weak and I'm personally thinking a lot more about the -xM right now, but will try to get to updating the code.google.com site to contain less inaccurate information.
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  537. [14:28:41] <sakoman_> jkridner: my current patches are here: http://www.sakoman.com/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=u-boot.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/omap3-v2009.11.1
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  539. [14:29:42] <buZz> sakoman_: could you take a look at my dmesg output, to see if this is an expected output for enabled tv-out?
  540. [14:30:39] <PierrotLafouine> no problem, I found my way out, but I'm kinda newby for these technology (I'm hardware guy). sometime I feel lost with a 'Hello World' software demo, lol
  541. [14:30:42] <sakoman_> jkridner: I'll be cleaning them up a bit and adding XM patches in a new branch. Perhaps Khasim can take a look at them and see if they look good enough to submit. I tried to address all the feedback Khasim got on his first round of patchs
  542. [14:31:30] <PierrotLafouine> To get source code, I have to install 'Git' and clone repos, I'm I right ?
  543. [14:32:26] <buZz> PierrotLafouine: usually yes, some repos are not git but svn or cvs, but i think most are git nowadays
  544. [14:33:25] <PierrotLafouine> ok, we works with Mercurial, any potential clash issues with Git ?
  545. [14:34:27] <buZz> i would only use git for git repos, don't mix it up with other systems
  546. [14:35:11] <sakoman_> buZz: nothing obviously wrong jumps out at me
  547. [14:35:58] <buZz> sakoman_: too bad :( ok, tnx
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  549. [14:40:45] <yann361> Is someone can help with rtc and i2c2 port ?
  550. [14:41:48] <_koen_> jkridner: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/narcissus/deploy/beagleboard/random-e0558423-image-manifest.html
  551. [14:42:01] <_koen_> jkridner: needs more changes still, but getting there :)
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  555. [14:45:33] <PierrotLafouine> Got Git compilation error, does someone has exprience with Git here ?
  556. [14:46:13] <PierrotLafouine> missing /curl/curl.h file, easy.h file
  557. [14:46:50] <buZz> PierrotLafouine: which distribution are you using on your development system?
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  559. [14:47:44] <PierrotLafouine> I'm using Ubuntu 8.04 LTS with gnome
  560. [14:48:04] <buZz> you should be just able to do 'apt-get install git' on ubuntu
  561. [14:48:14] <PierrotLafouine> ok cool
  562. [14:49:30] <PierrotLafouine> Done, that was too easy...lol thanks
  563. [14:49:43] <buZz> ;)
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  568. [15:05:05] <djlewis> good morning prpplague
  569. [15:07:33] <jkridner> _koen_: what are "Delivered as" and "modified"?
  570. [15:07:47] <jkridner> hehe...
  571. [15:07:56] * jkridner should have read the Legend. :)
  572. [15:10:02] <_koen_> jkridner: I took the OSRB template and am filling in the blanks
  573. [15:10:20] <jkridner> good deal.
  574. [15:12:02] <yann361> is someone ever play with CONFIG_OMAP_MUX config ?
  575. [15:13:55] <Brokie> Hi, I had to goto meeting,
  576. [15:13:59] <Brokie> Have new issue
  577. [15:14:02] <Brokie> ...
  578. [15:15:28] <PierrotLafouine> How do I get U-Boot sorce code with Git ? Someone knows that ?
  579. [15:15:59] <yann361> git clone git://git.denx.de/u-boot.git u-boot-main
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  581. [15:18:16] <Brokie> I setup glew_1.5.3 for download, and it try to download something from www.angstron-distribution.org/download (and of course it gets a 404 error)
  582. [15:18:22] <PierrotLafouine> Thanks yann361
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  585. [15:19:25] <prpplague> djlewis: greetings
  586. [15:20:28] <yann361> can someone help me with pinmux kernel configuration ?
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  588. [15:22:07] <Brokie> why is bitbake trying to download from angstrom website when i clearly tell it to download from the sourceforge site?
  589. [15:22:22] <Brokie> any way I can tell it not to?
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  591. [15:26:41] <Brokie> http://pastebin.ca/1841283 <-- logfile
  592. [15:29:49] <jkridner> I think it is looking for the checksum.
  593. [15:29:56] <jkridner> I think you need to update checksums.ini
  594. [15:30:15] <PierrotLafouine> hummmm, I get git : command not found
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  596. [15:31:04] <PierrotLafouine> look likes apt-get install git didn't work ?
  597. [15:31:10] <jkridner> PierrotLafouine: what distribution of Linux are you running? do you have 'git' installed?
  598. [15:31:42] <PierrotLafouine> <jkridner Ubuntu 8.04 LTS, I have done apt-get install git
  599. [15:32:00] <PierrotLafouine> man git give erro
  600. [15:32:22] <PierrotLafouine> no manual entry for git
  601. [15:32:23] <jkridner> I think in old distros, there was something else that was being called 'git'.
  602. [15:32:56] <jkridner> try 'sudo apt-get install git-core'
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  604. [15:33:30] <yann361> is someone evert use i2c-2 bus and twl rtc ?
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  607. [15:35:32] <PierrotLafouine> jkridner work better
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  609. [15:36:37] <prpplague> yann361: i2c-2 works fine with the zippy and zippy2
  610. [15:37:15] <yann361> i2c-2 work fine too when got CONFIG_OMAP_MUX in my kernel but can get rtc on the beagle working
  611. [15:37:55] <yann361> when CONFIG_OMAP_MUX is not set rtc on the beagleboard works fine but can't get i2c2 working controller timed out
  612. [15:38:18] <yann361> can't get rtc working with CONFIG_OMAP_MUX
  613. [15:38:19] <yann361> *
  614. [15:40:53] <PierrotLafouine> ok, got U-Boot code, thanks, I'll look at it after lunch
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  620. [15:59:09] <Brokie> PierrotLafouine: sudo apt-get install git-common
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  622. [16:00:10] <Brokie> sorry
  623. [16:00:24] <Brokie> PierrotLafouine: sudo apt-get install git core
  624. [16:00:27] <Brokie> grr
  625. [16:00:40] <Brokie> sudo apt-get install git-core
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  628. [16:01:07] <Brokie> oh, I see you told him, jkridner
  629. [16:01:12] <Brokie> lol
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  631. [16:10:40] <djlewis> neading to the office.. later..
  632. [16:10:50] <_koen_> hrw: seems xinput_calibrator got fixed judging by the commit logs
  633. [16:13:26] <hrw> _koen_: I am waiting for TS driver on bug20 to test it ;D
  634. [16:14:46] <thurbad> after al that trying to build mplayer it wouldn't let me install the ipk's because of md5sum mismatch
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  636. [16:16:06] <thurbad> but it seems to be working better after opkg install ffmpeg
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  639. [16:16:47] <thurbad> so somehow mplayer gets installed with the base build but doesn't install the correct ffmpeg
  640. [16:18:27] <ppotera> good morning all (stretch, yaaaawn)
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  643. [16:23:28] <thurbad> would think mplayer depends on ffmpeg
  644. [16:25:39] <av500> no, it can run without
  645. [16:26:33] <thurbad> there was some crufty version of ffmpeg that was installed with mplayer
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  658. [17:03:21] <plasmab> any beagle/omap riscos people here/
  659. [17:03:22] <plasmab> ?
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  661. [17:03:53] <jkridner> lots of beagle/omap people, perhaps not so many riscos people.
  662. [17:04:39] <plasmab> do they live elsewhere or are they just antisocial ;)
  663. [17:04:43] * jkridner has been waiting to meet the enthusiastic RiscOS crowd as to understand what is it that gets people hooked on it.
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  665. [17:05:25] <plasmab> jkridner, for me its just how not like anything else it is..
  666. [17:05:33] <jkridner> perhaps #riskos on ircnet.
  667. [17:05:47] <plasmab> jkridner, they are all OMAP bashers
  668. [17:06:04] <jkridner> oh?
  669. [17:06:12] <prpplague> do tell
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  671. [17:06:22] <plasmab> yeah the OMAP will hardly run any of the useful apps
  672. [17:06:28] <plasmab> well thats a slight lie
  673. [17:06:30] <av500> plasmab: they prefer to run it on a dead bagder?
  674. [17:06:51] <plasmab> it will "run" them but tend to crash
  675. [17:06:59] <av500> so fix it
  676. [17:07:30] <plasmab> well i would but the apps in question arent open source and the problem is CPU compatibility between arm v5 and arm v7
  677. [17:08:13] <plasmab> i.e. misaligned transfers and 26 bit compatibility
  678. [17:08:51] <av500> plasmab: but armv5 does not allow misaligned, no?
  679. [17:09:12] <plasmab> the alignment rules have changed
  680. [17:09:36] <plasmab> armv5 (i think) had 2 byte alignment. armv7 has 4 byte alignment
  681. [17:09:51] <av500> no
  682. [17:10:06] <av500> both have 2bytes for short and 4bytes for long
  683. [17:10:13] <av500> but, armv7 can do unaligned
  684. [17:10:21] <anunakin> jkridner: thanks for DSS tip!
  685. [17:11:25] <plasmab> https://www.riscosopen.org/wiki/documentation/pages/ARMv7+compatibility+primer/versions/10
  686. [17:11:28] <plasmab> is the full summary
  687. [17:14:49] <av500> ok
  688. [17:14:55] <av500> so the code needs to be fixed
  689. [17:15:16] <av500> coz arm will not fall back to armv5 in the forseeable future :)
  690. [17:15:44] <plasmab> unfortunately the code for the apps tend to be closed source
  691. [17:16:03] * rshortt (~quassel@freevo/developer/rshortt) Quit (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.)
  692. [17:16:39] <av500> so u are stuck in the past...
  693. [17:18:25] <plasmab> partly.. im sure someone has got around the SparkFS issue... its the most used decompression software on RiscOS.
  694. [17:21:31] <jkridner> plasmab: can you not use the alignment exceptions to patch the address pointer at run-time?
  695. [17:21:50] <av500> jkridner: seems there are some that are not so easy
  696. [17:21:54] <av500> like the LDM/STM thing
  697. [17:22:09] <av500> "...For ARMv7 and above, an abort will be raised if the source/destination address is not word-aligned. The abort will occur regardless of the alignment exceptions setting."
  698. [17:22:33] * seed95 (~seed@art95-4-82-242-41-187.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #beagle
  699. [17:22:37] <plasmab> thats the problem im hitting basically
  700. [17:22:56] <plasmab> a simple recompile with the latest compiler will solve the issue
  701. [17:23:26] <thurbad> and there's no interest on the coder owners to port to more recent hardware?
  702. [17:23:36] <av500> if they are still alive :)
  703. [17:24:25] <plasmab> thurbad, trouble is that most riscos users have machines that never exhibit the issue
  704. [17:24:32] <plasmab> so its very hard to test
  705. [17:24:51] <plasmab> *and* most riscos apps are a mix of basic and arm assembler
  706. [17:25:17] <thurbad> basic....
  707. [17:25:21] * thurbad twitches
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  709. [17:26:15] <thurbad> writing a webpage in VB is bad enough :P
  710. [17:27:00] <plasmab> thurbad... its BBC Basic. Its nice enough
  711. [17:27:07] <plasmab> VB is truely nasty
  712. [17:27:49] <thurbad> is bbc basic pre-compiled or interpreted?
  713. [17:28:15] <seed95> Hi, I am thinking about buying a beagle board and use it as a server which runs continuously my irc client, do you think this is a good idea?
  714. [17:29:48] <jkridner> seed95: I used to do that quite a bit, but I ran out of room on my desk for the other monitor.
  715. [17:30:05] <jkridner> I was using synergy so that I didn't have to have space for the keyboard/mouse.
  716. [17:30:13] <plasmab> thurbad.. i think its interpreted. But since it was written for a 32K machine i'd expect that
  717. [17:30:31] <jkridner> seed95: It was nice to not have other apps interrupt my IRC connection. I ran pidgin.
  718. [17:30:53] <seed95> jkridner: I think that I am going to connect to the beagle board by SSH, so it won't take any room on my desk.
  719. [17:31:21] <plasmab> and the interpreter was written in assembler, burnt onto a rom using dip switches and worked first time. But then you wouldnt expect anything less from the dude that invented the ARM processor
  720. [17:31:36] <plasmab> now dudette
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  722. [17:33:27] <seed95> jkridner: I am looking for something which doesn't have a high eletrical consumption that I can keep trurned on all the time.
  723. [17:34:58] <jkridner> seed95: I think the BeagleBoard is perfect for that.
  724. [17:35:39] <plasmab> seed95, dont buy an IGEP... they get way too hot
  725. [17:36:05] <av500> plasmab: running an irc server can be done at less than max cpu freq
  726. [17:36:20] <av500> with ondemand policy it will run at 125mhz most of the time
  727. [17:36:30] <av500> err, irc client
  728. [17:37:22] <plasmab> my experience of the IGEP is that the perhipheral chips get very hot
  729. [17:37:24] <plasmab> not the CPU
  730. [17:37:35] <seed95> Do all beagle boards have a Ethernet adapter?
  731. [17:39:30] <adj> seed95, as far as I know only few protos of new beagle have ethernet adapter, so no
  732. [17:39:53] <plasmab> seed95, you can use a usb ethernet adaptor
  733. [17:39:59] <plasmab> most beagle's dont have network
  734. [17:40:04] <plasmab> which is why i bought an IGEP
  735. [17:40:05] <plasmab> :/
  736. [17:40:07] <adj> or zippy board
  737. [17:40:07] <av500> seed95: the BB with omap3 might even be a bit overkill for an ssh irc client
  738. [17:41:45] <wroberts1> you might be able to use openwrt, run irc client in wifi router
  739. [17:41:56] * hrw is now known as hrw|gone
  740. [17:42:24] <plasmab> seed95, for the job you are looking to do i have an ITX box
  741. [17:42:39] <plasmab> but i use it as a fileserver/domain controller too
  742. [17:43:26] <seed95> plasmab: it's too much eletrical consumption for an IRC client.
  743. [17:44:02] <plasmab> seed95, buy a vms box.. i think you can get them for $6 a month or less
  744. [17:44:13] <plasmab> you dont host it so you dont pay for the electric
  745. [17:44:27] <seed95> wroberts1: I don't have a router, my Internet provider provides one that I can't play with :/, I would like to avoid adding another router.
  746. [17:45:37] <wroberts1> beagleboard should be fine then
  747. [17:46:13] * florian (~fuchs@Maemo/community/contributor/florian) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
  748. [17:46:58] <plasmab> seed95, beagleboard is a bit overkill for that
  749. [17:47:04] <plasmab> google for vps hosting
  750. [17:47:15] * j_ack (~j_ack@p57A42D9A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #beagle
  751. [17:47:15] <plasmab> will be alot cheaper for you
  752. [17:47:29] <adj> overkill is always a joy, so go for it :)
  753. [17:47:46] <wroberts1> $150 isnt overkill
  754. [17:48:20] <plasmab> *shrug* just trying to save the dude some cash
  755. [17:48:41] <av500> plasmab: vps for $6 where?
  756. [17:49:24] * fischer (~fischer1@fischerfamily.org) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
  757. [17:49:30] <plasmab> my deal from slicehost was about $12 and i get 5Gig space and 100G bandwidth
  758. [17:49:39] <plasmab> must be cheaper deals about for less usage
  759. [17:49:53] <av500> $20 at slicehost
  760. [17:49:56] * fischer (~fischer1@fischerfamily.org) has joined #beagle
  761. [17:51:04] <plasmab> contextswitch used to be cheap
  762. [17:51:09] <plasmab> but they disappeared
  763. [17:51:12] <plasmab> i think
  764. [17:51:24] <seed95> I could also use it for my mpd serveur... Depending on how much harddisk I could get with a MMC/SD card.
  765. [17:51:34] <plasmab> http://www.webkeepers.com/
  766. [17:51:39] <av500> plasmab: actually my hoster has it for 10???
  767. [17:51:40] <plasmab> 6.95 a month
  768. [17:52:15] <ius> Depending on your needs: http://www.lowendbox.com/
  769. [17:52:29] <DanaG> adj: new beagle?
  770. [17:52:33] <DanaG> with ethernet?
  771. [17:53:28] <adj> DanaG: beagle XM
  772. [17:53:56] <plasmab> seed95, i've seen a 486 based machine that runs linux and is basically a matchbox with a network port
  773. [17:54:07] <plasmab> cant remember the name of it off the top of my head
  774. [17:54:40] <av500> plasmab: yes, there are some
  775. [17:54:47] <DanaG> heh, if I were going with a new thing, I'd probably want one of the Marvell 1.2ghz ARM thingies.
  776. [17:54:53] <DanaG> hmm, are there pics of the XM somewhere?
  777. [17:54:56] <seed95> plasmab: cheaper than a beagle board?
  778. [17:55:09] <plasmab> yeah about $50
  779. [17:55:13] <av500> DanaG: they wont show us pics...
  780. [17:55:27] <plasmab> bifferboards are also quite cheap
  781. [17:55:46] <plasmab> http://bifferos.bizhat.com/
  782. [17:55:59] <adj> av500, i have seen some pics linked at this channel
  783. [17:56:30] * plasmab realises he's getting married 2 weeks today.
  784. [17:56:33] <plasmab> scary
  785. [17:57:03] <plasmab> i want the new 2Ghz arms
  786. [17:57:14] <plasmab> in an ITX form factor :)
  787. [17:58:26] <DanaG> ... with a PCIe slot.
  788. [18:00:04] * Tryum is now known as Try`0xff
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  790. [18:01:51] <DanaG> too bad the 3D part of beagleboard isn't really open.
  791. [18:02:53] <av500> hoe open do you need it?
  792. [18:02:54] <jkridner> _koen_: I started a build of xf86-input-evtouch and it has been running for 6+ hours. :( do you know why a rebuild wasn't triggered in the feeds when xorg-xserver API was updated? do these need to be manually bumped?
  793. [18:02:55] <av500> how
  794. [18:03:49] * Phrog (~chatzilla@ip-87-82-198-210.easynet.co.uk) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
  795. [18:03:50] * Phrog_ is now known as Phrog
  796. [18:04:33] <seed95> Is there a site referencing all beagle-like boards out there please?
  797. [18:04:50] <av500> no
  798. [18:05:16] <jkridner> seed95: http://wiki.omap.com/index.php?title=OMAP3_Boards has some of them.
  799. [18:05:22] * courville (~courville@archos.rain.fr) Quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
  800. [18:05:30] <seed95> jkridner: thanks.
  801. [18:05:57] <jkridner> where Beagle-like = uses OMAP3. There are many more OMAP3 boards though. av500, perhaps the dev version of the Archos should go there too?
  802. [18:06:01] * mobidev (~mobidev@94.127.205.30) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
  803. [18:06:12] <av500> jkridner: feel free to link it
  804. [18:06:19] <av500> u need something from me?
  805. [18:06:27] <jkridner> nope. just wanted your view.
  806. [18:06:32] <av500> fine with me
  807. [18:06:43] <jkridner> a picture would be nice--don't want to violate copyright.
  808. [18:06:47] <av500> okie
  809. [18:07:28] <jkridner> is there a home/purchase page?
  810. [18:07:42] <av500> a.com->reviews&photos
  811. [18:08:04] <jkridner> http://www.archos.com/products/imt/archos_5it/dualoslinux.html ?
  812. [18:08:06] <av500> http://www.archos.com/products/imt/archos_5it/index.html
  813. [18:08:08] <av500> yes
  814. [18:08:18] <av500> u found the right one :)
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  816. [18:08:35] <av500> bottom has reviews&photos link, use what you want
  817. [18:08:48] <av500> or use the pics from the oe blog
  818. [18:09:05] <av500> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/??ngstr??m-featured-engadget-and-slashdot
  819. [18:09:29] <av500> that is gen6, there should be a gen7 too
  820. [18:09:58] <DanaG> my ideal for "open" is like Radeon is open.
  821. [18:10:12] <DanaG> However, I'd settle for "freely downloadable without registration" for now.
  822. [18:10:14] <DanaG> =??
  823. [18:10:23] <av500> yes, but for political reasons, or for practical ones?
  824. [18:10:27] <DanaG> As it is, right now you can't just go right up and download the TI omap 3D driver.
  825. [18:10:36] <av500> right
  826. [18:10:43] * av500 glares at ti
  827. [18:10:49] <plasmab> if the driver isnt open then there is usually alot of clever stuf happening in the driver
  828. [18:11:09] <av500> ppl that have seen it might disagree :)
  829. [18:11:19] <DanaG> Bonus points (even while still "closed") if you have official repos for it.
  830. [18:11:29] <DanaG> For example, the nvidia binary driver is not open... but it's in the Ubuntu repos.
  831. [18:11:48] <av500> yes I know
  832. [18:12:38] <plasmab> the old 3dfx drivers werent open because all the smart stuff happened in software. The card just new how to draw triangles really
  833. [18:13:24] <DanaG> speaking of 3dfx... what can you do with one of those cards nowadays?
  834. [18:13:29] <DanaG> Anything useful?
  835. [18:14:12] <plasmab> i have a voodoo one in the back of my car.. been sitting there for 6 months
  836. [18:14:31] <av500> u been sitting on it?
  837. [18:14:37] <plasmab> my passengers have
  838. [18:14:56] * florian (~fuchs@Maemo/community/contributor/florian) has joined #beagle
  839. [18:15:17] <DanaG> hmm, when's the new beagle supposed to be available?
  840. [18:16:31] <ds2> morning
  841. [18:18:10] <DanaG> this morning? =??
  842. [18:18:14] <DanaG> joking.
  843. [18:20:21] * NishanthMenon (~nmenon@nat/ti/x-usqvostukvwvukob) has joined #beagle
  844. [18:22:45] <DanaG> http://my.opera.com/bhtooefr/blog/hp-t5325-thin-client-risc-os-and-maybe-combining-the-two-or-just-running-linu
  845. [18:22:48] <DanaG> inTEResting
  846. [18:23:01] <ds2> no, yesterday. this channel is a big time warp
  847. [18:23:31] <jkridner> DanaG: BeagleBoard-xM will launch in June.
  848. [18:24:07] * jkridner scrolls back to see what av500 was staring this direction for.
  849. [18:24:29] <av500> [19:10] <DanaG> As it is, right now you can't just go right up and download the TI omap 3D driver.
  850. [18:24:37] <jkridner> DanaG: the Angstrom distribution distributes the TI OMAP 3D driver.
  851. [18:25:27] * av500 un-glares at ti
  852. [18:25:53] * Meizirkki (~Meizirkki@bbwirelessgw2-fee1dc00-2.dhcp.inet.fi) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
  853. [18:25:55] <DanaG> hmm, then can I just download a .tar.gz file somewhere?
  854. [18:28:14] <DanaG> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/
  855. [18:28:35] <av500> "sgx"
  856. [18:29:26] <ds2> jkridner: was that special dispensation for Angstrom?
  857. [18:29:43] <DanaG> hmm, argh, no module source. bleh.
  858. [18:30:25] <DanaG> I don't want to use Angstrom -- I don't think very highly of it, ever since I tried it on Zaurus Collie and found that they had all the drivers FOR the board, DISABLED in the kernel config!
  859. [18:30:46] <DanaG> Drivers not working well, I can forgive. Drivers not being compiled at all? Fail.
  860. [18:36:54] <Brokie> DanaG, there is nothing wrong with the kernel config for the Collie
  861. [18:37:08] <DanaG> The last time I tried it was over a year ago, though.
  862. [18:37:20] <DanaG> It didn't have ucb1x00_ts enabled, or collie_ts, either.
  863. [18:37:33] <Brokie> I think it was unstable then...
  864. [18:37:43] <Brokie> if you have a collie still, you should try again...
  865. [18:41:16] <_koen_> jkridner: http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=ed5210189a29729ee7fd31e7e522b9aeb6036bbb
  866. [18:42:58] * jkridner requests ds2 read the license as distributed by TI.
  867. [18:44:37] <jkridner> _koen_: is there an upstream for this stuff to go?
  868. [18:44:51] <_koen_> yes, it's the first hit on google
  869. [18:44:56] <_koen_> conan.de
  870. [18:46:12] <jkridner> hmmm... guess the patch changed a lot *because* quite a bit went upstream.
  871. [18:48:01] <ds2> jkridner: I have read that; was wondering more if it is a special case or just the normal path
  872. [18:48:38] <ds2> sigh... copies and copies and copies of the same old info all over the place
  873. [18:49:50] * Ragha (~Ragha@nat/ti/x-tiybfqnksvqfneml) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
  874. [18:50:03] <jkridner> ds2: TI only distributes the 3D graphics through registration, I believe.
  875. [18:51:53] <av500> jkridner: so what is this? http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?pkgname=xserver-kdrive-powervrsgx
  876. [18:52:08] <av500> jkridner: I am puzzled:
  877. [18:52:13] <av500> [19:24] <jkridner> DanaG: the Angstrom distribution distributes the TI OMAP 3D driver.
  878. [18:52:16] <av500> [19:50] <jkridner> ds2: TI only distributes the 3D graphics through registration, I believe.
  879. [18:56:10] <ds2> alrighty
  880. [18:59:05] <jkridner> TI != Angstrom.
  881. [18:59:18] <jkridner> same bits, different source.
  882. [18:59:43] <av500> but where did angstrom get it from?
  883. [18:59:46] * awozniak (~awozniak@adsl-76-205-222-173.dsl.snlo01.sbcglobal.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
  884. [19:00:23] <ds2> spontaneous generation theory of software :D
  885. [19:00:36] <av500> found an usb stick in the park
  886. [19:00:47] <thurbad> p = np !!!
  887. [19:00:58] <DanaG> argh, backup battery on the collie == zero.
  888. [19:01:13] <ds2> a bunch of little birdies delivered it (a la IPoAvian RFC) ;)
  889. [19:02:04] <thurbad> just like my baby brother :)
  890. [19:03:52] <DanaG> hmm, "code: bad PC value"
  891. [19:04:05] <DanaG> er, wait, collie stuff... I should go to #angstrom
  892. [19:04:24] <thurbad> why oh why do artists have to label content with names like: pad01_dam03
  893. [19:04:24] <ds2> DanaG: got a Collie that runs ARMv7 code? ;)
  894. [19:04:39] <av500> ds2: with 12V
  895. [19:05:01] <thurbad> the only thing this guy tries to optimize is the filename :/
  896. [19:05:08] <ds2> av500: to which of the many things I have spurned are you responding to? :D
  897. [19:06:07] <av500> how to make the collie run v7 code :)
  898. [19:06:26] <av500> thurbad: do you have a sample file for me?
  899. [19:06:33] <ds2> ah...the expectation of proper electron migration :D
  900. [19:06:35] <djlewis_> speaking of 3DFX, I have one or two of most 3DFX boards.
  901. [19:07:04] <DanaG> hmm, nobody seems to be active in #angstrom
  902. [19:08:40] <ds2> DanaG:just use the sharprom
  903. [19:08:50] <ds2> or Crako (sp?)
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  905. [19:10:16] <jkridner> av500: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jadon/4436189602/
  906. [19:11:24] * av500 is distracted by jkridner's brothers wedding pics...
  907. [19:12:14] <prpplague> hehe
  908. [19:13:03] <av500> jkridner: thx, what is J4?
  909. [19:13:13] <prpplague> if anyone is interested, ShowDog is going out for pre-production, and i'm taking feedback/recommendations for new beagleboard accessory boards
  910. [19:13:20] * jkridner observes that every time I touch the screen on the Xenarc using the updated xf86-input-evtouch from _koen_, the input screen disappears and then comes back again.
  911. [19:13:21] <av500> prpplague: pics
  912. [19:13:54] <ds2> jkridner: not sure if you are the right person but... what do you think about trying to collapse all these new boards's U-boot into one code base - Leopard/Hawk/Beagle and whatever else?
  913. [19:14:01] <prpplague> av500: when they arrive
  914. [19:14:04] <jkridner> prpplague: where is J4?
  915. [19:14:06] <jkridner> oh...
  916. [19:14:11] <jkridner> I think that is for USB testing.
  917. [19:14:26] <jkridner> I'm not sure. It might also be to add another serial port.
  918. [19:14:40] <prpplague> i don't see a j4
  919. [19:14:53] <jkridner> ah, av500 was the one that asked.
  920. [19:14:55] <av500> glasses?
  921. [19:15:06] <jkridner> it is by the Ethernet connector.
  922. [19:15:20] <jkridner> just to the upper-left of it.
  923. [19:15:58] <DanaG> showdog?
  924. [19:16:09] <av500> prpplague: pic!
  925. [19:16:15] <thurbad> bytor's nemesis?
  926. [19:16:23] <prpplague> av500: of what?
  927. [19:16:33] <av500> jkridner: I guess it is the 4th usb of the hub thing
  928. [19:16:37] <av500> prpplague: showdog
  929. [19:16:39] <prpplague> jkridner: hmm, J4 isn't on my schematic
  930. [19:16:49] <prpplague> av500: when the pre-production arrives, i'll post pic
  931. [19:17:46] * robclark (~robclark@nat/ti/x-eppurnppgbumjtys) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
  932. [19:17:49] <anunakin> I having problems with /dev/rtc
  933. [19:17:55] <prpplague> jkridner: i think gerald has gotten rid of that header
  934. [19:18:01] <jkridner> av500: no, I think it would be between the OMAP and the hub, if it is the test point for the USB. not sure which side of the PHY, but probably the USB side. I think I recall Gerald saying it was a serial port though.
  935. [19:18:07] <prpplague> DanaG: a lcd accessory board for the beagle
  936. [19:18:20] <jkridner> J4 has been soldered to and desoldered on this prototype.
  937. [19:18:24] <_koen_> jkridner: that P7 proto is horribly outdated
  938. [19:18:42] * jkridner looks at the schematics to stop guessing.
  939. [19:19:45] <prpplague> jkridner: i suspect gerald changed that header to something else
  940. [19:19:52] <jkridner> it is 2 USB ports.
  941. [19:19:56] <av500> see
  942. [19:20:38] <av500> the 2 usb 3.0 ones? :)
  943. [19:20:54] <jkridner> :)
  944. [19:21:09] <jkridner> the same ones going to P14 for some reason.
  945. [19:21:33] <jkridner> might be gone on the final version, but that is how they are wired here.
  946. [19:21:39] <prpplague> jkridner: that isn't on my schematic
  947. [19:21:41] <av500> p14 and p16 are 2x each?
  948. [19:21:47] <jkridner> yes.
  949. [19:22:01] <av500> ok
  950. [19:22:08] <jkridner> U15 provides 4 downstream ports and Ethernet.
  951. [19:22:11] * andrevs is now known as AndrevS
  952. [19:24:01] <jkridner> _koen_: I'm getting a Seg Fault in X11 (caught signal 11) every time I touch the screen. :(
  953. [19:24:02] <av500> jkridner: ok
  954. [19:24:13] <av500> jkridner: then dont touch it
  955. [19:24:58] <jkridner> :)
  956. [19:25:20] <jkridner> if I hold my finger there a while, then the mouse cursor just goes nuts (without necessarily generating a seg fault).
  957. [19:25:20] <ds2> so we know that the touch screen is providing signals back to the CPU
  958. [19:25:28] <_koen_> jkridner: I don't have evtouch hw to test that driver with, sorry
  959. [19:25:39] <_koen_> jkridner: you could try applying some more debian patches
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  961. [19:25:57] <jkridner> the input appears to be rotated. I'll mess with the xorg.conf.
  962. [19:26:32] <jkridner> once it finishes building, I'll take a look at more patches.
  963. [19:26:56] <jkridner> (currently at task 818 of 2677)
  964. [19:27:06] <jkridner> (after running all day long)
  965. [19:27:52] <ds2> a TSC2046 touch screen would be so much less painful ;)
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  969. [19:35:59] <anunakin> Any here knows if can I use a CR2032 battery ? for RCT? like a replacement for VL-1220?
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  971. [19:37:51] <ds2> no
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  973. [19:39:02] <hrw> re
  974. [19:39:26] <hrw> which chip does beagleboard-vgaout expandion use?
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  990. [20:11:55] <cwillu_at_work> anunakin, for the real time clock, you really really want to use the part number described
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  1018. [21:06:04] <embuste7> anyone know where the OpenCV sources for Beagle are?
  1019. [21:07:22] <prpplague> embuste7: should be able to find it http://www.hbrobotics.org/wiki/index.php5/Beagle_Board
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  1021. [21:10:11] <djlewis_> I dnld openCV from their home page and build on BB.
  1022. [21:11:12] <djlewis_> That way you get the latest v2.0
  1023. [21:11:51] <djlewis_> http://opencv.willowgarage.com/wiki/ and http://sourceforge.net/projects/opencv/
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  1025. [21:13:05] * djlewis_ hasn't figured out yet how to tweak OE recipies to do such things :(
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  1029. [21:20:32] <prpplague> djlewis_: ping
  1030. [21:21:21] <prpplague> djlewis_: trainer board wiki pages have been updated along with a schematic - http://www.elinux.org/BeagleBoard_Trainer
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  1036. [21:30:48] <djlewis_> prpplague: nice layout, thank you :)
  1037. [21:31:41] <prpplague> djlewis_: thanks
  1038. [21:32:05] <prpplague> djlewis_: i'm taking suggestions on next accessory board, so if you have ideas, give me a shout
  1039. [21:32:48] * djlewis_ is studying how one programs the atmega328 through the Beagleboard or whatever.
  1040. [21:32:52] <djlewis_> no atmega experience
  1041. [21:33:15] <prpplague> djlewis_: basically you can load the arduino bootloader on it
  1042. [21:33:24] <prpplague> djlewis_: then you can use the standard utils
  1043. [21:33:28] <djlewis_> through serial interface?
  1044. [21:33:59] <buZz> yeah
  1045. [21:34:19] <prpplague> yea
  1046. [21:34:30] <buZz> the arduino bootloader emulates a certain serial programmer for atmega chip
  1047. [21:34:35] <buZz> and programs the chip itself :)
  1048. [21:34:36] <djlewis_> yeah + yea + hell yes?
  1049. [21:34:53] <djlewis_> ;)
  1050. [21:35:33] <buZz> hmmf, ISEE asks me to backport my kernel changes to 2.6.28 >_<
  1051. [21:35:34] <djlewis_> typo, yeah + yea = hell yes..
  1052. [21:36:09] * djlewis_ liked 2.6.28
  1053. [21:36:22] <prpplague> djlewis_: prefer to use the isp header, but you can use the arduino bootloader with no problems
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  1055. [21:36:49] <buZz> well i would just like mainstream kernel to work :)
  1056. [21:36:55] <prpplague> buZz: hehe
  1057. [21:37:01] <prpplague> buZz: you do arduino hacking?
  1058. [21:37:12] <buZz> yeah i play around with it :)
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  1060. [21:37:33] <prpplague> buZz: and i assume beagle as well....
  1061. [21:37:45] <buZz> igepv2 actually, but yeah
  1062. [21:37:51] <prpplague> buZz: ahh ok
  1063. [21:38:53] <buZz> looking into making a 'smart' battery for the igepv2 around an arduino and some li-ion cells :P
  1064. [21:39:09] <buZz> well, it could be used for any 5V device i guess
  1065. [21:39:10] * AndrevS is now known as andrevs
  1066. [21:41:25] <prpplague> buZz: might look at using one of the TI fuel gauge devices, pretty dandy
  1067. [21:41:33] <prpplague> buZz: something like the BQ27350
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  1070. [21:42:36] <buZz> bah tssop :)
  1071. [21:42:42] <prpplague> hehe
  1072. [21:43:17] <buZz> i'll just do the gauging myself
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  1076. [21:49:23] <ds2> tssop's are easy
  1077. [21:49:35] <ds2> at least it ain't a microstar bga
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  1087. [22:36:45] <DanaG> I'm interested in that zippy2 board, myself.
  1088. [22:36:57] <DanaG> Though, I'd rather wait and get the beagleboard successor instead, if it has ethernet.
  1089. [22:37:08] <DanaG> Or get one of those Marvell thingies with gigabit ethernet.
  1090. [22:41:21] <DanaG> http://www.tincantools.com/product.php?productid=16148&cat=255&page=1 -- cool. zippy2. now we just need a case that fits with it.
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  1108. [23:20:52] <ds2> Hmmm
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