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IRC Log for 2010-05-09

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  1. [00:03:40] <i0h> mru: everything's the same with CONFIG_DEBUG_LL
  2. [00:03:43] <i0h> :(((
  3. [00:04:27] <mru> did you set the right uart for that?
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  5. [00:07:34] <i0h> i guess the problem is not in the kernel
  6. [00:07:55] <i0h> i've just built the latest u-boot and it does not work either
  7. [00:08:30] <i0h> i'm using the toolchain from emdebian. maybe the problem is there?
  8. [00:08:55] <mru> did you have a working kernel?
  9. [00:09:07] <i0h> yes, but it was not built by me
  10. [00:09:18] <mru> try to build exactly the same kernel
  11. [00:09:23] <i0h> ok
  12. [00:09:23] <mru> same source, same config
  13. [00:09:35] <mru> if that works, you know your tookchain is good
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  17. [00:22:02] <i0h> u-boot does not work P_P
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  19. [00:22:22] <i0h> the one shipped with the board
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  21. [00:22:53] <i0h> sorry guys but it's late here. see you tomorrow.
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  24. [00:35:20] <djlewis> MmmMmm, pizza and beer :)
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  26. [00:49:24] <emeb> tasty, tasty beer
  27. [00:49:49] <emeb> Anyone here know why GPIO157 is coming up at boot set to output 1?
  28. [00:49:59] <djlewis> hi emebq
  29. [00:50:02] <djlewis> emeb
  30. [00:50:22] <emeb> djlewis: hello
  31. [00:51:33] <emeb> ploinking away on my FPGA board...
  32. [00:51:56] <djlewis> i goof'd off all day :)
  33. [00:52:11] <emeb> that's what Saturday is for.
  34. [00:52:24] <djlewis> didn't get anything done but feeding me and my three pups
  35. [00:52:38] <emeb> that counts.
  36. [00:53:20] <djlewis> hey, it was a good breakfast of three brown eggs, three strips bacon, fried tators, mom's apple butter and toast :) and coffee of course
  37. [00:53:52] <emeb> wow - your dogs eat well!
  38. [00:54:12] <djlewis> hehee, they do but that was for me :)
  39. [00:55:42] <emeb> sounds yummy. I'm off to a pal's birthday party in a few min.
  40. [00:56:16] <djlewis> enjoy ...
  41. [00:56:41] <emeb> thnx
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  60. [01:55:56] <ds2> n
  61. [01:56:04] <djlewis> o
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  75. [02:59:24] <cwillu_at_work> ds2, my industrial strength sd cards arrived last night
  76. [02:59:27] <cwillu_at_work> they're very industrial
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  81. [03:06:59] <djlewis> cwillu_at_work, are they bullet proof?
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  99. [06:22:42] <venky> Hi, I have installed codesourcary and could do compilation of uboot. I wanted to write a program and compile the angstrom src code as well.
  100. [06:22:59] <venky> is codesourcary sufficient for this?
  101. [06:24:02] <venky> Do I have to install oe? where can I get it?
  102. [06:24:19] <venky> I already have codesourcary
  103. [06:25:00] <venky> can someone please help in these basic steps?
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  105. [06:33:36] <cwillu_at_work> venky, google for "openembedded
  106. [06:34:21] <venky> I see in elinux.org, git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tmlind/linux-omap-2.6.git linux-omap-2.6 cd linux-omap-2.6 Build: make distclean make omap3_beagle_defconfig make menuconfig # only needed if you want to change the default configuration make uImage
  107. [06:35:10] <venky> "Build: make distclean make omap3_beagle_defconfig make menuconfig # only needed if you want to change the default configuration make uImage " for which compiler are these settings?
  108. [06:35:25] <venky> don't i need oe for this?
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  112. [07:06:59] <cwillu_at_work> venky, have you read angstrom-distribution.org's front page yet?
  113. [07:07:06] <cwillu_at_work> All ??ngstr??m images are built using OpenEmbedded. This document described the steps necessary to setup an environment where you can build images and packages yourself.
  114. [07:07:16] <cwillu_at_work> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom
  115. [07:07:25] <cwillu_at_work> just follow the instructions :)
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  117. [07:20:02] <DanaG> On 05/08/2010 06:57 PM, Andrew Stephen wrote:
  118. [07:20:03] <DanaG> > Hi,
  119. [07:20:03] <DanaG> >
  120. [07:20:03] <DanaG> >
  121. [07:20:03] <DanaG> > The BB appears as a "cdc_emm" device, whereas the Freerunner appears
  122. [07:20:03] <DanaG> > as "cdc_ether"
  123. [07:20:03] <DanaG> >
  124. [07:20:04] <DanaG> This makes me think it may be similar to an issue I had with my beagleboard:
  125. [07:20:04] <DanaG> I had set (with kernel module parameters) the "device" address to 00:11:22:33:44:55 and the host to 00:12:34:56:78:ab, and when I wireshark'd usb0 on the host, I saw packets from "ff:ff:00:11:22:33" of unknown ether type "4455". This looks like a framing error.
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  128. [07:20:43] <DanaG> dangit... didn't mean to paste that.
  129. [07:20:48] <DanaG> And Finch sends each line immediately.
  130. [07:21:23] <DanaG> I meant to paste this: A News (NNTP) error occurred: gmane.comp.hardware.beagleboard.general is unidirectional
  131. [07:23:29] <DanaG> And that message I accidentally pasted... is the message I was trying to send to the newsgroup.
  132. [07:27:26] <koen> DanaG: http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/topics?gvc=2
  133. [07:35:31] <DanaG> Thanks.
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  139. [08:27:11] <noway> hi ,please how to watch video using qt browser ?
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  148. [09:00:54] <venky> Hi
  149. [09:01:23] <venky> I am facing bitbake error: "NOTE: <type 'exceptions.SystemExit'>:1 while evaluating: ${@bb.fatal('Read the comments in your conf/local.conf')}"
  150. [09:01:39] <cwillu_at_work> hmm; can't seem to get my zippy2 to show up
  151. [09:01:47] <venky> can someone help?
  152. [09:02:02] <cwillu_at_work> venky, sounds like you should read the comments in your conf/local.conf
  153. [09:03:15] <venky> I have edited the fields as specified in http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Getting_started
  154. [09:04:24] <cwillu_at_work> have you actually read conf/local.conf though?
  155. [09:04:24] <venky> BBFILES = "/stuff/openembedded/recipes/*/*.bb" DISTRO = "angstrom-2008.1" MACHINE = "om-gta01"
  156. [09:04:52] <cwillu_at_work> that's the sort of error that people put in place to make sure that people read the config files :)
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  158. [09:05:25] <venky> I read it already
  159. [09:05:53] <cwillu_at_work> and you didn't see a line like # REMOVE_THIS_LINE:="${@oe.fatal('Read the comments in your conf/local.conf')}"?
  160. [09:07:21] <venky> yeah. i removed it now and testing again
  161. [09:07:32] <cwillu_at_work> so, you didn't read the file... :p
  162. [09:07:40] <cwillu_at_work> read != glance over once
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  164. [09:08:16] <cwillu_at_work> you'll find that your life is much easier if you take the time to thoroughly understand things
  165. [09:09:11] <venky> thanks for your help
  166. [09:09:28] <DaveDavenport> why read? when you can ask it here
  167. [09:09:46] <cwillu_at_work> and on that note, why doesn't my zippy2 work? :)
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  169. [09:09:58] <DaveDavenport> because you broke it
  170. [09:10:03] <cwillu_at_work> :(
  171. [09:10:11] * cwillu_at_work puts the soldering iron away
  172. [09:12:24] <cwillu_at_work> just hangs at I2C: ready in uboot
  173. [09:12:53] <DaveDavenport> on beagle I would say
  174. [09:12:56] <DaveDavenport> update x-loader
  175. [09:14:28] <koen> venky: the instructions on openembedded.net are broken for beagleboard
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  177. [09:15:23] <koen> venky: you're much better of using http://gitorious.org/angstrom/angstrom-setup-scripts
  178. [09:16:36] <cwillu_at_work> DaveDavenport, 1.4.2 isn't new enough?
  179. [09:17:22] <koen> for uboot 2010.x it isn't
  180. [09:17:53] <cwillu_at_work> and presumably mlo on the sd card isn't gonna work either? :p
  181. [09:18:07] <koen> only if you formatted it correctly
  182. [09:18:22] <cwillu_at_work> I get the orange splash screen from the mmc's u-boot
  183. [09:18:26] <koen> it works fine on my xM, and that has no nand
  184. [09:18:38] <cwillu_at_work> but I guess the fact that I'm seeing 1.4.2 is more important
  185. [09:22:49] <DanaG> Oh yeah, when I did "nand erase" (that is, erase ALL nand) on my old beagle, it stopped giving me x-loader at all.
  186. [09:22:57] <DanaG> Is there some small onboard nand for that x-loader?
  187. [09:23:05] <DanaG> s/onboard/on-die/
  188. [09:24:10] <venky> I did bitbake nano and i get this error " ERROR: Please set the 'CACHE' variable"
  189. [09:24:29] <DaveDavenport> you better do that then
  190. [09:24:36] <DaveDavenport> I liked the script btw :D
  191. [09:25:23] <venky> in the local.conf, i see # Uncomment this to disable the parse cache (not recommended). CACHE = ""
  192. [09:28:18] <cwillu_at_work> yay, semi bricked beagle :)
  193. [09:28:38] <cwillu_at_work> boots off the mmc with user button though
  194. [09:29:16] <cwillu_at_work> oh, I know what I did
  195. [09:29:35] <DaveDavenport> you know what you did last summer?
  196. [09:29:45] <cwillu_at_work> no, that's still a blur
  197. [09:29:50] <DanaG> When I nuked my nand, even the user button didn't work.
  198. [09:29:53] <DaveDavenport> a shame
  199. [09:30:03] <cwillu_at_work> DanaG, user button works fine if the card is formatted correctly
  200. [09:30:07] <DanaG> It just gave me 40W.
  201. [09:30:16] <cwillu_at_work> unfortunately, it's tricky to get it right the first couple times :)
  202. [09:30:29] <DanaG> yeah, I ended up having to serial-recover.
  203. [09:30:39] <cwillu_at_work> yay, un-bricked!
  204. [09:30:49] <DanaG> I have two usb-serial adapters: one that gives garbage but no "40W", the other that gives "40W".
  205. [09:30:58] <DanaG> And yet, the only one that worked for recovery was.... the former.
  206. [09:31:09] <DaveDavenport> I had the strange issue that a 4 gig card working fine on revC4, but not B7
  207. [09:31:28] <cwillu_at_work> DaveDavenport, buy a different card
  208. [09:31:54] <cwillu_at_work> (be aware that I'm someone who buys $80 4g sd cards :)
  209. [09:32:08] <DaveDavenport> I let others pay for it
  210. [09:32:28] * cwillu_at_work pushes his industrial sd crack in djlewis and ds2's general directions
  211. [09:33:00] <DaveDavenport> I just need 15-32 degrees C
  212. [09:33:04] <DaveDavenport> no -40 crap
  213. [09:33:16] <cwillu_at_work> I actually buy them for the wear-levelling and slc flash chips
  214. [09:33:45] <cwillu_at_work> although I _do_ have some desire to have these things work at -40, that's not a project I need to worry about until this fall
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  216. [09:34:44] <cwillu_at_work> rcn-ee, you were saying something about zippy2's reporting as zippy's
  217. [09:34:45] <DaveDavenport> argh something is messing up my wireless mouse
  218. [09:34:50] <DaveDavenport> I need a bluetooth mouse
  219. [09:34:59] <DaveDavenport> my bluetooth keyboard seems to be tons more reliable
  220. [09:35:20] <cwillu_at_work> DaveDavenport, might have something to do with needing a fraction of the bandwidth :p
  221. [09:35:22] <koen> 11:14 < koen> venky: the instructions on openembedded.net are broken for beagleboard
  222. [09:35:26] <koen> 11:15 < koen> venky: you're much better of using http://gitorious.org/angstrom/angstrom-setup-scripts
  223. [09:35:37] <DaveDavenport> cwillu_at_work: my keyboard has a mouse that works pretty good
  224. [09:35:42] <DaveDavenport> touchpad thingy
  225. [09:35:57] <cwillu_at_work> DaveDavenport, lies, and deceit
  226. [09:36:17] <DaveDavenport> one of those dinovo things
  227. [09:36:31] <koen> cwillu_at_work: yes, some zippy2 boards have the wrong EEPROM content
  228. [09:36:42] <cwillu_at_work> koen, link?
  229. [09:36:45] <DaveDavenport> things start to go wonky, if you are contantly missing key-release events
  230. [09:36:54] <cwillu_at_work> koen, we'll see if I can grep faster than you can remember :)
  231. [09:36:56] <koen> cwillu_at_work: beagleboard mailinglist, this week: http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/9e9487b63e31d834#
  232. [09:37:02] <cwillu_at_work> and koen wins by a mile
  233. [09:37:34] <koen> that also has instructions on how to fix the eeprom contents
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  235. [09:40:52] <cwillu_at_work> is pin 2 tx or rx?
  236. [09:40:56] <cwillu_at_work> db9 serial
  237. [09:43:52] <cwillu_at_work> weird, that i2cset line isn't changing anything
  238. [09:43:59] * aholler_ is now known as aholler
  239. [09:44:17] <cwillu_at_work> bah
  240. [09:44:19] <cwillu_at_work> write-protect
  241. [09:44:44] * cwillu_at_work looks around for a jumper
  242. [09:44:58] <cwillu_at_work> or scrap of wire
  243. [09:45:44] <cwillu_at_work> or a screwdriver
  244. [09:45:47] <cwillu_at_work> screwdriver it is
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  246. [09:48:16] <cwillu_at_work> there we are
  247. [09:52:51] <cwillu_at_work> so, can I use my soldering iron again?
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  249. [10:01:38] <DanaG> industrial SD... are there Micro ones?
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  254. [10:09:11] <_av500_> for micro-industries maybe :)
  255. [10:10:02] <cwillu_at_work> :D
  256. [10:10:58] <cwillu_at_work> DanaG, not that I've seen
  257. [10:11:04] <DanaG> that site http://www.hwtools.net/Extender Board.html has micro to full-size.
  258. [10:11:12] <DanaG> that is, put full-size card in micro slot.
  259. [10:11:25] <cwillu_at_work> they're historically used in medical and military devices, and those industries have been moving to raw flash chips and ssd drives lately
  260. [10:20:57] <cwillu_at_work> and presto, no more usb ethernet
  261. [10:21:17] * neo01124 (~neo@122.163.102.165) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
  262. [10:21:41] <venky> I am trying to compile the angstrom kernel with the command make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabi-
  263. [10:22:29] <venky> I have installed codesourcery gcc and path is also set. but i get the error "make: arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc: Command not found"
  264. [10:22:46] <venky> I am able to compile uboot successfully
  265. [10:22:56] <mru> apparently that's not the name of the compiler then
  266. [10:26:36] <DaveDavenport> or is not in PATH
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  269. [10:40:32] <cwillu_at_work> and here I go, trying to burn out an 80 dollar sd card :)
  270. [10:40:51] <koen> cwillu_at_work: uboot is working now?
  271. [10:40:56] <cwillu_at_work> koen, yep
  272. [10:41:00] <cwillu_at_work> it was as you said
  273. [10:41:14] <cwillu_at_work> although my sd card was actually properly formatted, I just wasn't actually user-booting off it
  274. [10:41:29] <cwillu_at_work> so when I bricked my nand, I was able to get things fixed quickly :)
  275. [10:41:45] <koen> for some reason xloader 1.4.4 has a stricter definition of 'properly'
  276. [10:42:05] <cwillu_at_work> no, that wasn't my trouble
  277. [10:42:10] <cwillu_at_work> I just wasn't doing what I thought I was doing
  278. [10:42:16] <koen> :)
  279. [10:42:20] <cwillu_at_work> and I really had no business thinking it did what it did
  280. [10:42:36] <cwillu_at_work> almost as if I completely whiffed on the "nand, then mmc" bit of the boot order :p
  281. [10:43:08] <cwillu_at_work> I'm kinda tempted to make my mmc automatically rewrite my nand though
  282. [10:43:12] <cwillu_at_work> as evil as that is
  283. [10:43:30] <cwillu_at_work> it'd be really nice to just plug in a chip, hold down the user button, and have the board programmed
  284. [10:43:49] <cwillu_at_work> I guess there's no reason why I couldn't do that optionally after a normal user boot though
  285. [10:44:15] <cwillu_at_work> also, I think I love zippy
  286. [10:50:33] * koen has 4 zippy boards
  287. [10:50:55] <koen> non usb ethernet is so awesome on rev B6 and C3
  288. [10:52:46] <raster> koen: ko!
  289. [10:52:48] <cwillu_at_work> yep
  290. [10:53:00] <cwillu_at_work> koen, I will soon have that many :)
  291. [10:54:23] <koen> raster: ra!
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  293. [10:55:55] <koen> raster: that eem update is funny, I remember when you did eem to make a point to mallum :)
  294. [10:59:16] <raster> koen: geez. i cant rememebr the point i was making
  295. [10:59:20] <raster> what point was i making?
  296. [10:59:29] <raster> i suspect i "won" that one
  297. [10:59:35] <koen> raster: 32 bit framebuffer access on strongarm
  298. [10:59:37] <raster> it's unusual that i lose :)
  299. [10:59:43] <raster> hmm
  300. [10:59:56] <raster> well that wasn't possible -
  301. [11:00:10] <raster> it was 32bit "internal" buffer dithered to 12 bit for the ipaq3360
  302. [11:00:18] <raster> tho i guess that kind of counts
  303. [11:00:18] <raster> :)
  304. [11:00:26] <koen> showing that the h3xxx was more awesome than people thought, since newer devices only had 16bit
  305. [11:00:53] <koen> I wonder if Robi still brings half a dozen h3800s to demy fancypants
  306. [11:00:58] <raster> well the 3660 only had 16bpp fb and 12bit lcd
  307. [11:01:15] <raster> so u did it in rgb565 but only used the msb 4 bits of each component
  308. [11:01:27] <raster> but with dithering it could be rather good
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  310. [11:01:30] <raster> :)
  311. [11:02:12] <raster> the ipaq tho was a good bit of hw
  312. [11:02:25] <raster> in fact very little beat that strong arm for many years
  313. [11:02:53] <koen> the pxa250 cache bug didn't help :)
  314. [11:03:02] <raster> actually only once u got to the armv6's clocking up at like 500mhz or so+ did things get appreciably better
  315. [11:03:22] <mru> cache bugs are evil
  316. [11:06:41] * koen is getting worried about the number of demoes TI plans to do with the xM
  317. [11:07:03] <koen> pretty much every demo owner responds with "what memory problem?"
  318. [11:07:10] <mru> before or after fixing the memory problems?
  319. [11:07:19] <koen> the good news is that that means more people are now pushing for a fix
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  321. [11:08:43] <koen> the demos that don't involve ubuntu or meego can be done on regular beagles with 256MB
  322. [11:08:57] <koen> but I have one demo that needs the 200MHz SGX
  323. [11:09:20] <_av500_> wokrs fine here
  324. [11:09:29] <_av500_> :
  325. [11:09:32] <_av500_> )
  326. [11:09:51] <_av500_> g'day raster, shrimps on the barbie yet?
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  329. [11:21:01] * koen <3 youtube.com/html5
  330. [11:21:16] <koen> now the flash plugin doesn't crash 10 times per day on my mac
  331. [11:21:25] <koen> and it doesn't burn my lap anymore :)
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  334. [11:32:39] <DaveDavenport> that is why overloard apple is working on flash alternative
  335. [11:33:40] <mru> do we need that?
  336. [11:34:50] <_av500_> koen: does it fast forward without downloading the whole video?
  337. [11:37:05] <koen> _av500_: looks like it
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  339. [11:37:51] <koen> I wish I could make safari use mplayer-osx-extended or vlc under the hood, but quicktime seems to do the job
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  341. [12:35:27] <i0h> hi. i was able to boot the kernel. the problem was in u-boot %)
  342. [12:36:06] <venky> I downloaded the http://gitorious.org/angstrom/angstrom-setup-scripts and when executing ./oebb.sh bitbake nano i get this error.
  343. [12:36:23] <venky> mouni@mouni-laptop:/media/Data/Beagle/koen/angstrom-setup-scripts$ ./oebb.sh bitbake nano Using ~/.oe/environment to setup needed variables. You can do '. ~/.oe/environment' and run 'bitbake something' without using ./oebb.sh as wrapper Executing: bitbake nano FATAL: Openembedded's config sanity checker detected a potential misconfiguration. Either fix the cause of this error or at your own risk disable the checker (see sanity.con
  344. [12:36:49] <venky> Any idea about this issue?
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  349. [12:41:58] <torusle> jo!
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  353. [12:46:56] <djlewis> good morning ..
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  355. [12:47:30] <torusle> hi djlewis
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  374. [14:51:09] <Crofton> hmm
  375. [14:51:30] <Crofton> as long as a pin is muxed for the gpio, I can change the direction via the gpio layer
  376. [14:51:30] <djlewis> yes Crofton ?
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  383. [15:11:44] <Blagtech> I was thinking about android devices the other day and I remembered.. BEAGLEBOARDS! Anyone have first hand experience with android on the beagle board as far as how well it runs?
  384. [15:11:45] * xexnaor (~xexnaor@94.54.61.229) has joined #beagle
  385. [15:11:52] <Blagtech> I was thinking about android devices the other day and I remembered.. BEAGLEBOARDS! Anyone have first hand experience with android on the beagle board as far as how well it runs?
  386. [15:12:32] * djlewis thinks tere are youtube examples of beagleboard and android
  387. [15:12:42] <djlewis> s/tere/there
  388. [15:12:55] <Blagtech> I know there is, I was just hopening for someone with first hand experience to lend an opinion
  389. [15:13:29] <i0h> Blagtech: it just runs. what exactly do you wanna know?
  390. [15:14:30] <Blagtech> not quite sure. I was looking at buying android devices and I realized how expensive most of them are, so I was looking into going the beagle board route for the sake of saving money
  391. [15:14:41] <xexnaor> hello everybody i have a problem with wirelesstools on angstrom dist
  392. [15:15:07] <i0h> Blagtech: and? I don't think it's convenient to use bb as a cell
  393. [15:15:10] <i0h> or pda
  394. [15:15:25] <xexnaor> anyone to help ?
  395. [15:15:38] <Blagtech> just for tinkering with / testing dev projects on
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  397. [15:16:06] <i0h> Blagtech: then why dont you use qemu? it's free and afaik is able to run android :)
  398. [15:16:28] <Blagtech> qemu?
  399. [15:16:44] <i0h> yep
  400. [15:16:52] <i0h> btw, android is ported to x86 ;)
  401. [15:17:18] <xexnaor> anyone to help for setting network
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  403. [15:17:32] <Blagtech> but also on the side, It could end up being a tiny computer build as a couch side rss feed machine
  404. [15:17:51] <djlewis> xexnaor, ya gotta be more specific...
  405. [15:18:08] <xexnaor> i cannot ping the default gateway
  406. [15:18:17] <Blagtech> ..downloading for VMing now
  407. [15:18:20] <xexnaor> i am using cnet usb wireless dongle
  408. [15:18:27] <Blagtech> didn't even know android was ported to x86
  409. [15:18:46] <xexnaor> i am using iwconfig and ifconfig but didnt managed to setup
  410. [15:21:38] <djlewis> xexnaor, what are you using? BB? what fs?
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  412. [15:22:10] <xexnaor> djlewis using beagleboard rv 3 with angstrom distro
  413. [15:23:03] <djlewis> xexnaor, are you using dhcp or static ip?
  414. [15:23:18] <xexnaor> dhcp client doesnt work
  415. [15:23:25] <xexnaor> trying to get static ip
  416. [15:24:16] <djlewis> look at this irc log: http://www.beagleboard.org/irclogs/index.php?date=2010-05-07
  417. [15:24:23] <xexnaor> i am
  418. [15:24:24] <xexnaor> ty
  419. [15:24:34] * ynezz_ is now known as ynezz
  420. [15:24:36] <djlewis> starting with 19:10:58
  421. [15:24:57] <djlewis> that is for dhcp
  422. [15:26:49] <xexnaor> djlewis is there a way to use network-manager by console
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  424. [15:30:44] <djlewis> xexnaor, if you can make it work ;)
  425. [15:31:29] <djlewis> I dont use connman
  426. [15:31:56] <djlewis> xexnaor, I think you have to use manual commands but then connman
  427. [15:32:01] <djlewis> will override them
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  431. [15:35:36] <xexnaor_> djlewis i think i have another problem because another computer in that network doesnt ping the beagle
  432. [15:36:02] <djlewis> xexnaor_, if your beagle cant ping chances it cant be pinged.
  433. [15:36:17] <xexnaor_> because the gateway ?
  434. [15:36:19] <djlewis> does it lease an iP?
  435. [15:36:21] <djlewis> yes
  436. [15:36:34] <xexnaor_> heres my route output
  437. [15:36:38] <xexnaor_> 192.168.2.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 wlan0
  438. [15:37:22] <djlewis> is that correct for your network?
  439. [15:37:35] <xexnaor_> gateway isnt defined here
  440. [15:37:41] <djlewis> where is your default route
  441. [15:37:46] <xexnaor_> isnt set now
  442. [15:38:06] <djlewis> are you still dhcp or static?
  443. [15:38:20] <xexnaor_> i am not using interfaces
  444. [15:38:28] <xexnaor_> i am setting an ip by ifconfig
  445. [15:38:30] <djlewis> static ip or dhsp?
  446. [15:38:34] <xexnaor_> static
  447. [15:38:35] <djlewis> dhcp?
  448. [15:38:37] <djlewis> ok
  449. [15:38:38] <xexnaor_> static
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  451. [15:38:46] <xexnaor_> 192.168.2.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 wlan0
  452. [15:38:47] <xexnaor_> 0.0.0.0 192.168.2.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 wlan0
  453. [15:38:49] <xexnaor_> sorry for flooding
  454. [15:39:00] <djlewis> so you have to choose a method i linked to to stop connman
  455. [15:39:17] <xexnaor_> how can i understand if conman is running
  456. [15:39:30] <djlewis> you are not linux friendly?
  457. [15:39:39] <djlewis> ps aux | grep connman
  458. [15:39:49] <djlewis> it will show a process id
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  460. [15:40:55] <xexnaor_> root 1355 0.0 0.2 1700 500 ttyS2 S+ 20:52 0:00 grep conman
  461. [15:41:08] <mru> nn
  462. [15:41:08] <djlewis> I cdont see it running
  463. [15:41:26] <xexnaor_> i think so
  464. [15:42:02] <djlewis> if you are running 2.6.32 Angstrom it may be a different network manager
  465. [15:42:19] <xexnaor_> there is a network-manager process
  466. [15:43:03] <djlewis> emeb, ping
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  468. [15:43:46] <emeb> djlewis: pong
  469. [15:44:00] <djlewis> are you following?
  470. [15:44:05] <xexnaor_> me ?
  471. [15:44:13] <djlewis> no emeb
  472. [15:44:22] <emeb> djlewis: not closely. whazzup?
  473. [15:44:37] <djlewis> emeb, the other day did you have a network-manager process or connman running?
  474. [15:44:49] <djlewis> that you changed
  475. [15:44:52] <emeb> djlewis: yep.
  476. [15:44:57] <djlewis> which?
  477. [15:45:20] <emeb> it was connman, started by rc.*
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  479. [15:45:32] <xexnaor_> i found
  480. [15:45:40] <emeb> shutdown by /etc/init.d/connman stop
  481. [15:45:41] <xexnaor_> root 978 0.1 1.3 7608 3248 ? Ss 20:36 0:01 /usr/sbin/NetworkManager
  482. [15:45:55] <djlewis> emeb, xexnaor_ is trying static wifi but has network-manager
  483. [15:46:15] <emeb> Ah - interesting problem
  484. [15:46:30] <emeb> I always go dhcp for all my wifi
  485. [15:46:35] <djlewis> xexnaor_, type uname -a please
  486. [15:46:44] <djlewis> 'uname -a'
  487. [15:46:58] <xexnaor_> Linux beagleboard 2.6.32 #1 PREEMPT Mon May 3 22:40:09 CEST 2010 armv7l GNU/Linux
  488. [15:47:09] <djlewis> I havent run that yet
  489. [15:47:22] <emeb> Too bad that you can't get cheapo routers to assign static IP based via dhcp by MAC address.
  490. [15:47:50] <emeb> s/based//
  491. [15:48:10] <djlewis> emeb, so true. we have a Dlink at work that is always giving out wkstns 'duplicate IP' errors
  492. [15:49:07] <djlewis> kow my linksys router always complies
  493. [15:49:33] <emeb> at a previous job the IT admin had dhcp running from a server with all systems dhcp & assigned fixed IP. Worked great
  494. [15:50:05] <emeb> wish my linksys could do that.
  495. [15:50:05] <djlewis> always dhcp but always got same lease?
  496. [15:50:09] <emeb> yes
  497. [15:50:16] <djlewis> redundant.
  498. [15:50:42] <xexnaor_> root 1457 0.0 0.2 1700 508 ttyS2 S+ 21:01 0:00 grep NetworkManager/
  499. [15:50:43] <djlewis> I've always preferred static ip in a stationary environment
  500. [15:50:49] <xexnaor_> what is the pid for Network manager
  501. [15:50:51] <xexnaor_> ?
  502. [15:50:53] <emeb> nah - easier to admin in big env.
  503. [15:51:16] <emeb> control all assignments from one file, rather than having to go to each machine.
  504. [15:51:59] <djlewis> good point
  505. [15:52:04] <xexnaor_> ok fellas i managed
  506. [15:52:10] <xexnaor_> djlewis ty for help
  507. [15:52:12] <djlewis> xexnaor_, you up?
  508. [15:52:15] <xexnaor_> yep
  509. [15:52:21] <emeb> what did you change?
  510. [15:52:30] <xexnaor_> just killed NetworkManages proc
  511. [15:52:31] <djlewis> on reboot it may be back unless you stop something from starting
  512. [15:52:38] <xexnaor_> i kno
  513. [15:52:44] <djlewis> NetworkManager
  514. [15:52:48] <djlewis> ok
  515. [15:52:53] <djlewis> have fun then
  516. [15:52:59] <xexnaor_> may i ask another thing
  517. [15:53:01] <xexnaor_> ?
  518. [15:53:09] <djlewis> xexnaor_, you taught me something :)
  519. [15:53:17] <djlewis> go4it
  520. [15:53:26] <xexnaor_> how can i connect a wpa psk network
  521. [15:55:17] <xexnaor_> i am really wondering that network manager really works ????
  522. [15:55:47] <djlewis> xexnaor_, well, with earlier versions of Angstrom connman was a real pain in the arse...
  523. [15:55:59] <xexnaor_> same as NetworkManager
  524. [15:56:14] <djlewis> xexnaor_, gnome, by sakoman, network manager works like it should
  525. [15:56:39] <djlewis> pretty gui environment
  526. [15:56:56] <emeb> +1 for sakoman's distro
  527. [15:56:56] <xexnaor_> but i dont have input with my beagle
  528. [15:56:57] <djlewis> makes ya feel like you have a 5ooMhz workstation.
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  530. [15:57:13] <xexnaor_> i have to arrange parameters with serial
  531. [15:57:35] <djlewis> xexnaor_, by design or hardware limitation?
  532. [15:57:40] <xexnaor_> design
  533. [15:58:16] <djlewis> xexnaor_, so you are staying in console for your BB needs
  534. [15:58:24] <xexnaor_> yep
  535. [15:58:51] <xexnaor_> i am wondering is there any console commands or configuration files for NetworkManager
  536. [15:59:00] <xexnaor_> i really have no idea about NetworkManager
  537. [15:59:10] <djlewis> Angstrom is based on linux, google the app and see?
  538. [16:00:23] <emeb> Ah - the problem is NM is a GUI app, but all you have is serial and you need to configure it by managing text files.
  539. [16:00:57] <xexnaor_> ty emeb
  540. [16:01:05] <xexnaor_> trying to find config files
  541. [16:01:17] <emeb> Why do you need to use Network Mgr?
  542. [16:01:33] <xexnaor_> dont need
  543. [16:01:40] <djlewis> etc/host , hostname, resolv.conf
  544. [16:02:08] <djlewis> xexnaor_, you already found interfaces
  545. [16:02:16] <xexnaor_> yep
  546. [16:02:29] <xexnaor_> is nm reading from interfaces ?
  547. [16:02:43] <djlewis> it plays with interfaces, yes
  548. [16:02:49] <xexnaor_> ty guys
  549. [16:02:51] <xexnaor_> really
  550. [16:02:55] <djlewis> and plays with the others
  551. [16:03:16] <djlewis> a connman replacement I suppose
  552. [16:04:29] <xexnaor_> brb
  553. [16:06:15] <djlewis> xexnaor_, so now you can do all sorts of network management with BB :)
  554. [16:06:43] * djlewis is on his 8th and last cup of coffee :(
  555. [16:06:56] <djlewis> for the day ...
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  557. [16:08:09] <xexnaor__> djlewis after killing nm beagle gets ip from dhcp
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  560. [16:09:27] <djlewis> cool
  561. [16:14:16] <koen> emeb: you do know that sakomans 'distro' is just angstrom, right?
  562. [16:17:42] <djlewis> emeb, I think you are being hung out for the terminology you used ;)
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  564. [16:23:50] <emeb> koen: Yes, I know. Poor choice of words.
  565. [16:24:33] <emeb> koen: no trying to detract from all the effort you put into Angstrom.
  566. [16:24:46] <emeb> s/no/not/
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  572. [16:44:43] <prpplague> koen: i have arduino bootloader working with trainer
  573. [16:46:51] <_av500_> gm guys
  574. [16:47:35] <djlewis> gm
  575. [16:47:51] <djlewis> gm _av500_
  576. [16:48:27] <emeb> gm
  577. [16:48:45] <_av500_> djlewis: pizza tonight?
  578. [16:48:55] <djlewis> last night :)
  579. [16:48:59] <djlewis> nd beer :)
  580. [16:48:59] <_av500_> ah
  581. [16:49:13] <emeb> it's like a universal law: when you dump out a bunch of SMD resistors, they all land upside down so you can't read the values...
  582. [16:49:36] <djlewis> but I do have pizza left overs that may be lunch
  583. [16:49:38] <_av500_> if you can read the values, it is not SMD :)
  584. [16:49:51] <djlewis> hehee
  585. [16:50:29] * _av500_ is off to work some wood
  586. [16:50:39] * djlewis has varying levels of magnifiers and a microscope if needed :)
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  588. [16:51:06] <emeb> I've got a magnifier.
  589. [16:51:24] <emeb> (need it - presbyopia setting in)
  590. [16:51:36] <djlewis> gotta get me more 'fine' tools for working with smd
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  592. [16:53:15] <djlewis> emeb, that sounds like my symptom. trouble up close.
  593. [16:54:01] <djlewis> time to mow the yard before a weeks rain.
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  596. [17:02:25] <emeb> have fun...
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  599. [17:17:22] <koen> prpplague: ah, nice
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  606. [17:22:08] <prpplague> koen: you can reprogram the the avr using avrdude, and soon you'll be able to use avrgal
  607. [17:22:22] <prpplague> koen: avrgal is a hacked lite version of avrdude i'm working on
  608. [17:26:41] <koen> ah
  609. [17:26:47] <koen> I was wondering about the pun :)
  610. [17:27:31] <koen> prpplague: the avr on the trainer is using its internal crystal, right?
  611. [17:27:58] <prpplague> koen: we are shipping it configured to use the external 8MHz xtal
  612. [17:28:19] <koen> ah, also 8MHz
  613. [17:28:34] <prpplague> koen: i'll be posting some info on the wiki this afternoon about the configuration that the trainer ships as
  614. [17:28:51] <koen> I need to talk to my coworkers in the analog dept to sample some of those TI stepper controllers
  615. [17:29:17] <koen> the DRV8xxx series
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  618. [17:31:30] <prpplague> koen: hehe
  619. [17:33:03] <emeb> heading out...
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  626. [18:02:12] <djlewis> amazing how fast honeysuckle can mangle a once good fence :(
  627. [18:02:46] <djlewis> prpplague, sounds excellent about the avr programming sbilities.
  628. [18:02:58] <djlewis> s/sbilities/abilities
  629. [18:03:11] <djlewis> numb hands from weedwacker machine ....
  630. [18:03:56] <djlewis> back out to battle the overgrowth...
  631. [18:03:59] <prpplague> djlewis: yea should make things easier and more compatible
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  637. [18:21:15] <djlewis> yep
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  640. [18:28:26] <prpplague> djlewis: avrgal should be alot easier to cross compile and also easier to work with the arduino bootloader
  641. [18:28:41] <prpplague> djlewis: alot of the command line flags will be removed to support very basic upload
  642. [18:29:01] <prpplague> djlewis: i.e. avrgal trainer.hex
  643. [18:29:41] <prpplague> djlewis: verses: ./avrdude -V -F -c stk500v1 -p m328p -P /dev/ttyS1 -b 57600 -U flash:w:trainer.hex
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  648. [19:01:58] <koen> prpplague: you could make avrgal just a wrapper script for avrdude
  649. [19:02:05] <koen> that's what I was planning to do :)
  650. [19:02:55] <prpplague> koen: yes i could, the problem i find with avrdude is that it has alot of dependencies and doesn't cross-compile very well
  651. [19:03:28] * koen checks OE
  652. [19:03:37] <koen> weird, no hacks
  653. [19:03:49] <koen> looks like avrdude 5.10 is more behaved than the older versions
  654. [19:03:54] <prpplague> ahh
  655. [19:04:12] <mru> wow, progress
  656. [19:04:19] <mru> who would've thought
  657. [19:04:20] <prpplague> koen: i'm mainly doing avrgal for myself
  658. [19:04:31] <koen> :)
  659. [19:05:11] <prpplague> koen: basically to keep up on my programming skills and to make it easier for me to customize
  660. [19:06:21] <koen> next omap4 board will have an avr to serial load xload in case of softbricking :)
  661. [19:07:02] <prpplague> hehe
  662. [19:10:33] <koen> sweet, I made the makerbot blog: http://blog.makerbot.com/2010/05/09/today-from-the-twittersphere/
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  674. [19:46:53] <asd> hello
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  677. [19:57:52] <djlewis> prpplague, back from eeding..
  678. [19:57:55] <djlewis> weeding
  679. [19:58:17] <djlewis> That all sounds very good about your avr programming plans.
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  686. [20:35:08] <prpplague> koen: avrgal is working
  687. [20:35:14] <prpplague> koen: need some cleanup
  688. [20:38:30] <_av500_> http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Hawkboard/
  689. [20:39:45] <mru> why is the hawkboard all over the internets this week?
  690. [20:39:54] <mru> it's been around a while, no?
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  694. [20:43:26] <nlCortana> ood evening
  695. [20:43:45] <nlCortana> *Good (hmm starts wrong already)
  696. [20:44:20] <tom_> hey guys... Anyone compiled the latest U-Boot and have to add to the linker script, and the -lgcc_eh library?
  697. [20:44:55] <tom_> I don't understand why u-boot has not been compiling without modification for beagleboards or clones for a while?
  698. [20:45:17] <mru> works fine for me
  699. [20:46:02] <mru> there are of course many candidates for latest u-boot
  700. [20:46:04] <_av500_> mru: dunno, maybe it is shipping now in quantities
  701. [20:46:08] <tom_> I'm using codesourcery arm-linux-none-gnu-eabi
  702. [20:46:40] <tom_> it works, but I have to modify the makefile and linker script to compile it
  703. [20:46:50] <mru> av500: right, the hawkboard... thought you were talking about u-boot for a moment
  704. [20:47:11] <_av500_> mru: uboot is shipping in large varieties
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  708. [20:56:38] <rektide> soooo delighted emdebian appears to be updating again
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  710. [20:58:26] <prpplague> koen: http://pastebin.com/B6AAiNNi
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  712. [21:00:03] <_av500_> prpplague: call your tool aargh, much cooler name
  713. [21:00:29] <nlCortana> hi, I have been playing around with an uvc compliant webcam on my host computer. It immediate shows up as an /dev/video0 device and can be opened easily using v4l2. But when i connect it to the beagleboard only usb device manager detects it but thats all
  714. [21:00:46] <nlCortana> i installed libv4l using opkg, but am i overlooking something?
  715. [21:01:09] <prpplague> _av500_: hehe
  716. [21:01:18] <prpplague> _av500_: don't like avrgal?
  717. [21:01:34] <_av500_> nlCortana: driver modules is there?
  718. [21:01:53] <_av500_> and if yes, inserted by who?
  719. [21:02:17] <nlCortana> u mean the module should be there when checking lsmod?
  720. [21:02:33] <_av500_> is it in your file system?
  721. [21:02:44] <_av500_> aka do you have the needed module
  722. [21:02:47] <nlCortana> i don't have the board by hand now, sorry...
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  724. [21:04:00] <Dany0> Hey guys! Where do I find a gsm module for the BB?
  725. [21:04:41] <Dany0> I mean, the one used in cell phones
  726. [21:06:32] <_av500_> in your cell phone
  727. [21:06:44] <_av500_> cell phones dont have gsm modules
  728. [21:07:13] <nlCortana> what do they have then?
  729. [21:07:20] <_av500_> gsm chipsets
  730. [21:07:57] <_av500_> but no modules that you could use separately
  731. [21:07:57] <nlCortana> in the eraly ages (talking about nokia or the old ericson phones) you were able to screw cell phones open and inject AT commands to control them
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  733. [21:08:11] <nlCortana> _av500_ that's true
  734. [21:08:14] <nlCortana> not anymore
  735. [21:08:17] <_av500_> nope
  736. [21:08:23] <_av500_> since long
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  738. [21:08:39] <mru> you used to be able to connect an rs232 cable externally and do same
  739. [21:08:53] <_av500_> its an usb cable now
  740. [21:09:02] <nlCortana> technologie
  741. [21:09:16] <mru> then for a while they'd show up as ACM modems on usb
  742. [21:09:25] <mru> now they don't do that either
  743. [21:09:36] <_av500_> some do, some dont
  744. [21:09:47] <nlCortana> ACM as in AT Command MODEM?
  745. [21:10:09] <mru> they spoke AT yes
  746. [21:10:17] <_av500_> nlCortana: your best bet is something like a 3g usb stick
  747. [21:10:32] <_av500_> or the stuff that sparkfun is selling
  748. [21:10:35] <nlCortana> anyway, now days we have 3G yes, but hey it wasn't my question
  749. [21:10:53] <_av500_> 3g modems for embedded applications
  750. [21:10:54] <Dany0> huh
  751. [21:11:01] <Dany0> can I make a call from a 3g stick?
  752. [21:11:04] <Dany0> =/
  753. [21:11:11] <_av500_> sure
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  755. [21:11:15] <Dany0> 0.0
  756. [21:11:18] <Dany0> WHAT THE
  757. [21:11:24] <_av500_> some support that
  758. [21:11:25] <Dany0> omp that's... impossible
  759. [21:11:27] <_av500_> not all though
  760. [21:11:43] <_av500_> some even had a headset connector
  761. [21:11:58] <Dany0> ok so you're telling me, if I put in a 3g stick in an anonymous netbook with android, I can make calls?
  762. [21:12:06] <_av500_> no
  763. [21:12:12] <Dany0> I mean, you'd need at least a sim card
  764. [21:12:17] <Dany0> so what
  765. [21:12:19] <_av500_> sure
  766. [21:12:32] <_av500_> i said, some 3g modules support voice
  767. [21:12:35] <Dany0> so I am searching for a 3g stick with a sum?
  768. [21:12:38] <Dany0> sim
  769. [21:12:39] <Dany0> ?
  770. [21:12:44] <_av500_> they all need a sim
  771. [21:12:47] <_av500_> data or voice4
  772. [21:12:48] <Dany0> oh
  773. [21:12:52] <_av500_> oh
  774. [21:12:53] <Dany0> I'm dumb =)
  775. [21:12:55] <_av500_> no
  776. [21:12:59] <Dany0> yes I am
  777. [21:13:01] <_av500_> dont say thatr
  778. [21:13:04] <Dany0> ok
  779. [21:13:47] <nlCortana> i will catch some sleep
  780. [21:14:06] <nlCortana> bye
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  783. [21:14:50] <_av500_> gn
  784. [21:14:53] <Dany0> gn
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  788. [21:26:28] <Dany0> Ok I found a suitable GSM Module
  789. [21:26:55] <Dany0> It's called U-Blox Leon G-100 and G-200
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  791. [21:27:20] <Dany0> the only difference between the g-100 and g-200 I've seen is 10 euro...
  792. [21:27:21] <Dany0> \/
  793. [21:27:27] <Dany0> \=
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  795. [21:29:05] <_av500_> price?
  796. [21:30:13] <Dany0> 79
  797. [21:30:16] <Dany0> G100
  798. [21:30:17] <Dany0> 89
  799. [21:30:21] <_av500_> k
  800. [21:30:21] <Dany0> G200
  801. [21:30:26] <Dany0> well no
  802. [21:30:31] <Dany0> I found a cheaper one
  803. [21:30:53] <Dany0> http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=9533
  804. [21:30:59] <Dany0> but still too much
  805. [21:31:03] <Dany0> ok cya!
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  807. [21:31:08] <_av500_> too much?
  808. [21:31:40] <_av500_> you could print a map of nearby phone booths, way cheaper....
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  816. [21:55:12] <prpplague> koen: http://www.elinux.org/Avrgal
  817. [21:55:34] <prpplague> koen: http://www.elinux.org/BeagleBoard_Trainer#ATmega328_.28Arduino_Hardware_Compatible.29
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  830. [22:57:19] <prpplague> emeb|mac: http://www.elinux.org/Avrgal
  831. [22:57:27] <prpplague> emeb|mac: http://www.elinux.org/BeagleBoard_Trainer#ATmega328_.28Arduino_Hardware_Compatible.29
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  842. [23:59:46] <djlewis> prpplague, I looked over your links. :)

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