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IRC Log for 2010-05-12

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[00:22:17] <dl9pf_> jkridner: http://pastie.org/956309 is the output of the script
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[00:24:27] <dl9pf> pvr runs now as compiled with .02
[00:27:07] <dl9pf> but starting X shows: http://pastie.org/956311
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[00:49:23] <rcn-ee> dl9pf, your X log paste is fine.. you don't get a full opengl with sgx..
[00:50:12] <dl9pf> ok, true. es2
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[00:54:32] <rcn-ee> exactly..so someday when compiz is ported to es2....
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[00:58:06] <rcn-ee> fbset should be in the repo to.. "sudo apt-get install fbset".
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[01:17:06] <dl9pf> not in mine ;)
[01:19:54] <robosycho> I'm trying to compile an opencv program for the beagle
[01:19:58] <robosycho> I have opencv headers installed
[01:20:33] <robosycho> but I get the message: .../arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/bin/ld: cannot find -lhighgui
[01:20:36] <robosycho> any suggestions?
[01:24:28] <djlewis> robosycho, what tutorial are you following? willowgarrage?
[01:24:55] <robosycho> I've been at this so long I can't remember all that I've tried, sorry
[01:25:16] <djlewis> looks as though you are trying to cross compile it?
[01:25:20] <robosycho> I also haven't found anything online that is up to date with the beagle
[01:25:33] <robosycho> actually I was hoping to save a hassle and compile natively
[01:25:35] <djlewis> define 'anything'
[01:25:59] <djlewis> you mean the opkg installables of opencv?
[01:26:06] <djlewis> they are old
[01:26:11] <robosycho> the python reference doesn't work, the opencv packages were just updated recently and had to be fixed
[01:26:31] <robosycho> right, but even then, I found information on the google group
[01:26:33] <robosycho> and that was out of date
[01:26:50] <djlewis> I have build natively versions 1.1.pre1 and 2.0
[01:27:25] <djlewis> you referring to the googlegroup info with my name in it?
[01:27:25] <robosycho> ok, I grabbed the latest with opkg
[01:27:31] <robosycho> which is 2.1
[01:27:39] <robosycho> yes
[01:27:49] <djlewis> you are running a 2.5.32 kernel then?
[01:27:54] <djlewis> 2.6.32
[01:28:06] <robosycho> I don't remember
[01:28:16] <robosycho> its the latest demo image
[01:28:22] <djlewis> 2.6.29 only offers up 1.0.0
[01:28:26] <robosycho> from march this year
[01:28:53] <djlewis> 2.6.29 is the last stable though 2.6.32 should be close to stable by now.
[01:28:59] <robosycho> 'opkg list' currently lists it as '2.1.0'
[01:29:06] <robosycho> ok
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[01:29:41] <djlewis> so have you tried your opkg install of 2.1 yet
[01:29:56] <robosycho> I'm trying to use that currently
[01:30:24] <robosycho> I have opencv-dev, opencv-apps, python-opencv and opencv
[01:31:35] <robosycho> I was talking to koen about this earlier, before there was an 'opencv' package to install, said it was a dummy because the opencv-dev wouldn't install, listing 'opencv' as a dependency
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[01:32:10] <djlewis> I was reading all day
[01:32:18] <robosycho> ok
[01:32:23] <djlewis> so did opencv install this time?
[01:32:26] <robosycho> yes
[01:32:33] <robosycho> I have the packages without a problem
[01:32:36] <djlewis> so perhaps it is fixed?
[01:32:49] <robosycho> installing it was
[01:33:13] <robosycho> but I go to compile a simple program to read from a webcam, it cannot find the libraries
[01:33:23] <djlewis> does this take us back to your beginning question above?
[01:33:26] <djlewis> I see
[01:33:46] <robosycho> yes
[01:34:05] <djlewis> your compile error is simply stating the path to the libraries was missing or wrong.
[01:34:26] <djlewis> have you confirmed you have highgui and the others?
[01:34:40] <Ikarus> hmmm, IGEPv3 sort of announced
[01:34:49] <Ikarus> 1 Ghz and all
[01:34:53] <robosycho> trying to link highgui returns what I said before
[01:35:07] <djlewis> do you know where highgui lives?
[01:35:17] <djlewis> is is installed?
[01:35:23] <robosycho> usr/lib
[01:35:51] <robosycho> I have libhighgui.so.2.1 and libhighgui.so.2.1.0
[01:36:10] <robosycho> and cv and the rest in similar fashion
[01:37:31] <DanaG> I want something with ARM and PCIe.
[01:37:42] <djlewis> what does 'export LD_LIBRARY_PATH' give?
[01:37:52] <robosycho> echo?
[01:37:56] <robosycho> or export
[01:38:10] <djlewis> just look at the variables path
[01:38:53] <robosycho> /usr/lib
[01:38:58] <djlewis> good
[01:39:01] <aholler_> if you don't have libhighgui.so try ln -s libhighgui.so.2.1 /usr/lib/libhighgui.so
[01:39:02] <DanaG> Particularly, the Marvell stuff seems interesting.... but not available yet.
[01:39:21] <aholler_> or fix your Makefile to use lighighui.so.2.1
[01:40:28] <robosycho> excellent
[01:40:31] <robosycho> it compiles
[01:40:52] <djlewis> cool, tnx aholler_
[01:41:17] <djlewis> so ther is a mixup in the opencv installs.
[01:41:45] <robosycho> seems so
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[01:47:13] <robosycho> so here's a horse of a completely different color
[01:47:21] <djlewis> robosycho, did you have to flash MLO to nand to get it to boot?
[01:47:55] <robosycho> sorry, boot what?
[01:48:02] <robosycho> oh
[01:48:04] <robosycho> no
[01:48:20] <robosycho> the SD card I'm using has MLO in the boot sector
[01:48:29] <djlewis> I built that version and I cant get past I2C
[01:48:39] <robosycho> delete u-boot.bin
[01:48:47] <robosycho> that fixed it for me
[01:49:00] <djlewis> did, renamed it old-uboot.bin.oldbin
[01:49:11] * cwillu tunes in
[01:49:31] <cwillu> what's the broken?
[01:49:44] <robosycho> latest opencv install
[01:50:02] <robosycho> couldn't find the libraries
[01:50:11] <robosycho> short-circuited using a symbolic
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[01:53:51] <robosycho> ok, now I'm getting a slew of messages and odd results when I run the program
[01:54:08] <robosycho> all it does is open the camera, take a single frame, then write it to a file
[01:54:20] <robosycho> the frame is partially okay
[01:54:44] <robosycho> however the bottom third is broken
[01:54:57] <robosycho> and I'm getting a slew of messages
[01:55:24] <djlewis> robosycho, I love progress ;)
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[01:55:44] <robosycho> I've been working at this for two weeks, you have no idea how glad I am to have an image
[01:55:50] <cwillu> djlewis, was that you that was telling me the other day how to get my beagle booting with the newest u-boot (which was otherwise hanging at i2c?)
[01:56:02] <djlewis> yep.
[01:56:39] <cwillu> okay, so I won't bother regurgitating the same instructions back at you :p
[01:56:54] <cwillu> my momma always told me it isn't polite to puke on people...
[01:57:23] <cwillu> (on the other hand, she did bite me, so I'm not sure how much of her advice I should really take seriously)
[01:57:50] <robosycho> cwillu: know anything about opencv?
[01:57:52] <djlewis> well cwillu I thank you for being so kind. as your instructions dont help my case.
[01:57:59] <cwillu> :)
[01:58:10] <djlewis> so I am diggin in and seeing why not.
[01:58:19] <djlewis> I do feel your help was all valid
[01:58:35] <cwillu> robosycho, not the slightest, sorry
[01:58:40] <robosycho> bummer
[01:58:54] <robosycho> I've got a dozen messages and no idea how to fix them
[01:59:01] <cwillu> pastebin?
[01:59:06] <djlewis> start with the first
[02:00:05] <robosycho> pastebin it is
[02:00:37] <robosycho> actually, I'm going to do it by hand anyways
[02:00:56] <robosycho> nvm using pastebin
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[02:04:41] <robosycho> link http://pastebin.com/wybd4qDd
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[02:07:07] <djlewis> cwillu, i'm leaning toward a messed upu SD card
[02:07:23] <robosycho> I had the same problem you did on two separate cards...
[02:07:31] <cwillu> djlewis, can I interest you in an industrial strength slc sd card? :p
[02:07:55] <djlewis> mmMmm industrial strength, I like it
[02:08:15] <DanaG> hmm, what does an 8-gig one cost?
[02:08:26] <cwillu> DanaG, lots
[02:08:33] <cwillu> the 4gb cards I'm using cost about 80$
[02:08:37] <DanaG> Ouch.
[02:08:43] <robosycho> 20 for a 6 gig on newegg
[02:08:47] <djlewis> you may not recall I had a SD reader go bad last year and some of my cards were subjected to it.
[02:08:55] <cwillu> on the other hand, they tell you the firmware versions and the flash chip serial numbers
[02:08:56] <DanaG> Those aren't industrial strength ones on newegg.
[02:08:59] <robosycho> ouch
[02:09:08] <cwillu> DanaG, I get them from digikey
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[02:09:15] <robosycho> o
[02:09:17] <robosycho> right
[02:09:38] <DanaG> gOOD luck with the micro slot on the XM. =??
[02:09:40] <djlewis> robosycho, how does your webcam act with other progs?
[02:09:42] <cwillu> indeed
[02:09:49] <cwillu> DanaG, there are adapters :p
[02:09:50] <robosycho> fine
[02:09:59] <robosycho> I can open it in mplayer without a problem
[02:10:31] <djlewis> no errors show?
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[02:10:44] <DanaG> cwillu: yup.
[02:10:57] <robosycho> once in a while there's a small spot off
[02:11:00] <DanaG> http://www.hwtools.net/Extender%20Board.html
[02:11:20] <cwillu> DanaG, there's another one with a ribbon cable which I'd probably use if I needed to
[02:11:49] <cwillu> hwtools is more of a debugging board to expose the contacts
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[02:18:45] <djlewis> robosycho, try a lower resolution with opencv
[02:18:55] <robosycho> djlewis: how?
[02:19:04] <djlewis> hmmm
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[02:19:59] <djlewis> doesn't work with all cams
[02:20:45] <robosycho> what doesn't work?
[02:21:31] <robosycho> I'm afraid I'm lost
[02:22:17] <djlewis> changing capture rez in opencv
[02:22:31] <robosycho> is there a command for that?
[02:22:46] <djlewis> on phone
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[02:30:50] <djlewis> robosycho, i'm thinking opencv on BB is not keeping up with cam.
[02:31:37] <robosycho> ok
[02:31:54] <djlewis> robosycho, try changing your file save to a live window
[02:32:31] <robosycho> k
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[02:35:49] <flyeng4> My beagleboard will not boot past the beagleboard.org banner/splash scree. I am running angstrom which just booted fine and I was able to set up my user profile and everything. Now after a reboot, I am stuck.
[02:35:52] <flyeng4> Any thoughts?
[02:36:55] <robosycho> flyeng4: what is the serial output?
[02:37:01] <robosycho> djlewis: no change
[02:37:12] <flyeng4> I do not have a serial connection
[02:37:22] <djlewis> robosycho, no live video?
[02:37:36] <robosycho> afraid not
[02:37:48] <robosycho> cvNamedWindow doesn't seem to be working
[02:38:17] <flyeng4> Do I need a serial connection in order to boot?
[02:38:31] <robosycho> flyeng4: it would make disagnostics easier
[02:38:40] <flyeng4> k
[02:38:43] <flyeng4> i will work on that
[02:39:42] <robosycho> hmm
[02:39:54] <robosycho> I get a slew of usr/share/themes issues
[02:40:10] <robosycho> gtk clearlooks is not supported will be ignored
[02:40:42] <djlewis> robosycho, try onecam.c http://www.djlewis.us/files/bb/opencv/onecam.c
[02:41:17] <djlewis> change #includes for your environment
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[02:41:56] <robosycho> ok
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[02:47:44] <robosycho> sweet
[02:47:47] <robosycho> we have video
[02:48:03] <robosycho> I think i see the problem
[02:48:07] <robosycho> resolution is massive
[02:48:14] <djlewis> what is prob?
[02:48:27] <robosycho> filling a 1000 ish by 700 ish frame
[02:48:29] <djlewis> yep, too much fo rbb to handle with opencv
[02:48:29] <robosycho> I think
[02:48:32] <robosycho> it might be bigger
[02:48:38] <robosycho> okay, well
[02:48:42] <robosycho> I need to make it smaller ther
[02:48:44] <robosycho> then*
[02:48:47] <djlewis> yep
[02:49:33] <djlewis> look at the camdemo.c
[02:49:40] <robosycho> same dir?
[02:49:57] <djlewis> I remarked all that my cam wont do.
[02:49:59] <robosycho> got it
[02:50:04] <djlewis> yes
[02:50:29] <djlewis> it has some res setting there
[02:51:04] <robosycho> width and height?
[02:51:16] <djlewis> yes
[02:51:41] <djlewis> CV_CAP_PROP_FRAME_WIDTH , CV_CAP_PROP_FRAME_HEIGHT
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[02:53:41] <robosycho> 640x480
[02:53:52] <djlewis> thats hopeful
[02:54:09] <djlewis> I get about 6fps at that resolution
[02:54:15] <djlewis> 6 - 10
[02:57:08] <noway_> rcn-ee : hi tryin apt-get install phonon-backend-gstreamer the installation work util 50% then i get err http//ftp.us.debian.org squeeze/main ....... \ could not resolve 'ftp.us.debian.org'
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[02:59:47] <flyeng4> robosycho: I made a serial connection and the last line of the boot is "Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt"
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[03:00:39] <noway_> something wrong with your kernel
[03:00:58] <rcn-ee> noway, check your dmesg, probally dropped the network adapter...
[03:01:16] <noway_> no ,i work with the otg now
[03:01:35] <flyeng4> What are my options.
[03:01:43] <noway_> i work with ehci before but it crash when installing
[03:02:08] <noway_> rcn-ee : so i switch to otg
[03:02:46] <rcn-ee> noway, i know.. maybe try a different local debian ftp server? for some reason it dropped your connection...
[03:03:07] <robosycho> djlewis: not working at 6 fps...
[03:03:13] <noway_> flyeng4 : it s the first time to have this prob
[03:03:33] <djlewis> robosycho, isit working at all?
[03:03:36] <noway_> rcn-ee : thanks
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[03:04:15] <flyeng4> yeah. this is my first day with the BB and I installed angstrom. I had trouble booting and finally for some reason it booted. Now I am having trouble again.
[03:04:45] <robosycho> djlewis: I have video
[03:04:54] <robosycho> but it still has issues
[03:05:01] <noway_> flyeng4 : dont panic ,what s in your mmc card ?
[03:05:26] <djlewis> robo if it is better than the full rez earlier, then try 320x240
[03:05:28] <flyeng4> i'm not sure what you mean by that quesition
[03:06:10] <noway_> what file are in your memory card you boot from
[03:06:56] <robosycho> djlewis: how do I change it? I see the setproperty calls, but I don't think its changing
[03:06:56] <DanaG> Weird thing happens when you try to fbset 480x272... it tries to do 300-something hertz refresh rate.
[03:07:09] <flyeng4> mlo u-boot.bin and uImage
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[03:07:44] <noway_> bb c4 ?
[03:07:59] <flyeng4> c2
[03:09:09] <noway_> what you should be sure of is that your kernel is bad ,si try to buid another one then we will see fater
[03:09:12] <noway_> after
[03:10:01] <flyeng4> sorry for my ignorance. is the uImage the kernel?
[03:11:08] <noway_> flyeng4 : don t be sorry ,yes that is the kernel
[03:11:43] <flyeng4> i don't know how to rebuild a kernel. can i just download it from online and write over the current one?
[03:11:49] <djlewis> wierd, my SD and reader mount automagically on my Ubuntu 9.10 wkstn but I cant mount the SD with fdisk
[03:12:01] <djlewis> used to work
[03:12:17] <djlewis> flyeng4, yes
[03:12:56] <noway_> listen if you want really to learn how to work on beagleboard in 5 days use the free electrons beagleboard labs ,do them after that you will be a pro ;)
[03:13:40] <flyeng4> noway_ : i might have to do that. i am trying to come up with ideas for a masters thesis.
[03:13:58] <flyeng4> if i go to http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ which uImage do I download
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[03:14:29] <flyeng4> the one I used was just uImage -- but I see uImage-2.6.....bin <- what are the .bin's
[03:14:36] <noway_> flyeng4 : nice if you need any help on you thesis i am here
[03:14:51] <flyeng4> you are already helping :)
[03:15:40] <DanaG> Nice: "Here's your problem on the Beagleboard: <7>wlan0: switched to short barker preamble (BSSID=00:22:a4:85:80:29) Everybody know that Beagles are *long* barkers ;-). "
[03:16:05] <noway_> flyeng4 : you have only those file in the card mlo .....
[03:16:17] <djlewis> flyeng4, looks like the plane uImage file size and type are wrong
[03:16:53] <djlewis> oh, I reload and it looks better
[03:17:12] <flyeng4> so should I download say ... uImage-2.6.26-r64-beagleboard.bin ... and rename it to uImage and then put it on the card?
[03:17:37] <noway_> yes
[03:17:53] <flyeng4> cool
[03:18:08] <noway_> but in the bootargs you have to check
[03:18:21] <noway_> wait what do you have in the bootargs?
[03:18:32] <noway_> type : printenv
[03:19:14] <flyeng4> i dont have anything in the boot args
[03:19:22] <flyeng4> my card is in my laptop now
[03:19:46] <djlewis> notice, r64 is a 2.6.26 NOT a 2.6.32
[03:20:43] <djlewis> to know what to grab from Demo is to be a clarivoyent (spell)
[03:21:48] <noway_> djlewis : when i choose for example to work with linux 2.6.32 i download it but then when i wan t to make defconfig of beagleboard it doesn t work
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[03:22:47] <djlewis> I try to go by version + revision + file dates when dnld'ing from Demo
[03:23:25] <flyeng4> noway_ : you said "type : printenv" -- where do I type this into
[03:23:34] <flyeng4> minicom?
[03:23:39] <noway_> yes
[03:23:45] <djlewis> so it looks like uImage == uImage-2.6.32-r72+....
[03:24:00] <noway_> but how you bboot and your mmc card is not in the bb
[03:24:35] <flyeng4> i put it back in there
[03:24:50] <flyeng4> i don't really know how to access the sd card while it's in the bb
[03:25:19] <noway_> you don t have access
[03:25:29] <flyeng4> also, i can't type anything into minicom
[03:25:53] <noway_> why isn t the bb tached with serial cable to your pc
[03:25:59] <noway_> attached
[03:26:06] <flyeng4> it is
[03:26:37] <flyeng4> i have minicom communication through /dev/ttyUSB0
[03:26:40] <noway_> so
[03:26:51] <flyeng4> but i can't type anything or access the sd card or what not
[03:26:53] <noway_> why you can t type anything
[03:27:00] <flyeng4> i just see the output of the boot
[03:27:04] <flyeng4> and then it hangs
[03:27:07] <noway_> how you get the error message
[03:27:12] <noway_> kernel panic
[03:28:00] <flyeng4> from the output to minicom on my laptop
[03:28:03] <robosycho> on a largely unrelated side note
[03:28:15] <robosycho> libcvaux is not installed like its supposed to
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[03:28:33] <DanaG> hmm, instead of minicom, try screen.
[03:28:39] <DanaG> screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200
[03:28:41] <DanaG> or whatever device.
[03:29:36] <noway_> flyeng , once you works with minicom and you get the boot then you can type on minicom console
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[03:30:39] <noway_> press the reset after that hit enter when you get the counter
[03:31:34] <flyeng4> now it boots
[03:31:43] <flyeng4> something has to be corrupt
[03:31:50] <flyeng4> after 15 or so tries, it's booting
[03:32:00] <noway_> nice
[03:32:24] <noway_> flyeng4 what do you plan to do with your BB
[03:32:46] <noway_> in your thesis
[03:32:51] <flyeng4> robotic control through python
[03:33:15] <flyeng4> what do yo uneed from my printenv?
[03:33:35] <flyeng4> since i can access it now and might not be able to after i reboot
[03:33:36] <noway_> check your bootargs
[03:34:08] <noway_> last line
[03:34:43] <flyeng4> EDITOR=/bin/vi is my last line ... i don't have boot args
[03:35:01] <flyeng4> (i never set any if i need to?)
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[03:36:30] <flyeng4> shoudl i set them do you think it would help?
[03:36:48] <noway_> yes
[03:36:54] <noway_> you have to set it
[03:37:20] <flyeng4> shoudl I set them the same as http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardBeginners#Setting_up_the_boot_args
[03:38:14] <noway_> setenv bootcmd 'mmc init;fatload mmc 0 80300000 uImage;bootm 80300000'
[03:38:18] <flyeng4> also in this example should I change /dev/ttyS2 to /dev/ttyUSB0 since that is the device i use?
[03:38:22] <flyeng4> ok
[03:38:56] <noway_> no don t this is the console ttyS2
[03:39:26] <noway_> and dont type this line because you see he has a second partition in his memo card to boot on
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[03:39:48] <noway_> root=/dev/mmcblk0p2
[03:41:48] <flyeng4> setenv not found?
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[03:43:36] <noway_> !!!
[03:43:44] <noway_> try it again
[03:44:17] <flyeng4> sh: setenv: not found
[03:45:03] <rcn-ee> sh? setenv is an internal U-boot command, not a linux app....
[03:46:05] <flyeng4> ok ... so i am obviously making it painful for everyone :). how do I enter U-boot commands (thanks for your patience)
[03:46:23] <rcn-ee> reboot.. and hit any key to stop auto boot...
[03:46:29] <flyeng4> k
[03:46:48] <noway_> rcn-ee : i can t install phonon with apt i get many dependencies to udev
[03:47:18] <rcn-ee> flyeng4, "OMAP3 beagleboard.org # " your at the right spot...
[03:48:54] <rcn-ee> you don't like udev?
[03:49:36] <noway_> no but after that i type apt-get install udev but i get the same error
[03:50:40] <flyeng4> rcn-ee : i'm there -- thanks
[03:52:08] <rcn-ee> noway, weird... did you find a better mirror? there is one listed in Africa, not sure how far away it is from you... http://debian.mirror.ac.za/debian/
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[03:53:20] <noway_> rcn-ee : no i still use the usa mirror it works now,but i think there is a problem in udev it fails to install it
[03:54:50] <rcn-ee> fails to install? error or bug message?
[03:56:27] <flyeng4> alright, i have to reboot .... if I don't get back on here tonight -- thanks for all your help!!!
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[03:59:08] <djlewis1> does this fdisk look right? http://pastebin.com/vrrBA7jz
[03:59:46] <djlewis1> its what I always used for 2.6.28 and 2.6.29
[04:00:03] <djlewis1> but wont work with 2.6.32 Demo
[04:00:15] <rcn-ee> how's it bombing?
[04:01:28] <noway_> rcn-ee : i get udev is already the next version after that i get Traceback (most rxcent call last) file /usr/bin/apt-list changes' line 28 in modeule \ import apt-pkg ............................ dpkg error processing phonon and many other packages taht i ve try to install with apt-get install phonon
[04:02:37] <rcn-ee> weird... specially since udev is installed by default... create a debian bug against phonon?
[04:02:50] <noway_> should i apt-get remove phonon and reinstall it
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[04:05:24] <noway_> i get the same problem doing that E:sub-process /usr/bin/dpkgeturned an error code (1)
[04:10:51] <rcn-ee> noway, i'm a little suprised it's trying to install udev... (squeeze) on one of my armel builders reports this: http://pastebin.com/XigVK0hJ basic server + gcc install...
[04:11:23] <noway_> :)))
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[04:18:52] <noway_> rcn-ee :when i download linux 2.6.30 sources or any release ,try to make kernel by myself and used for debian squeeze , i get when i make defconfig-FOR-BB error looks like it works only for x86
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[04:24:20] <rcn-ee> ahh... did you pass "ARCH=arm" when you issued make? ps.. this is irc, no reason to single my user name out...
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[04:27:06] <noway_> rcn-ee :yes
[04:27:17] <noway_> arch is in the path
[04:27:32] <noway_> ARCH=arm
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[04:45:47] <emeb> sweet - I2C access code worked 1st try!
[04:46:28] <noway_> :)
[04:47:55] <emeb> onto the SPI code...
[04:49:15] <ds2> spy the spi code
[04:53:21] <emeb> aye aye with my little spi...
[04:59:09] <DanaG> weird.... my usb wifi stick starts out "down", and doesn't give any scan results.
[04:59:31] <DanaG> NetworkManager won't acknowledge that my system-connection called "Home" exists.
[04:59:42] <DanaG> wicd connects... but only once I mark the interface "up".
[05:01:50] <emeb> DanaG: do you need to flag it 'auto' ?
[05:02:24] <DanaG> Well, NetworkManager doesn't even acknowledge the file that's in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections (or whatever it is).
[05:02:32] <DanaG> Hmm, disabling "switch to wired when available" in wicd worked.
[05:02:50] <DanaG> I wonder why it thought wired was "available"... despite me telling it that wired is eth0 and eth0 has media disconnected.
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[05:42:05] <emeb> gn
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[06:36:46] <_av500_> gm
[06:37:27] <franktango> gm
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[06:54:38] <nlCortana> hi, yesterday (Evening) i bought a self powered usb hub (sitecom) but my camer still isn't working
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[07:04:28] <noway_> rcn-ee : have you probems with using apt on debian squeeze ?
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[07:10:50] <hrw-uds> hi
[07:13:01] <koen> you know what kind of day it's going to be when you hurt your right index finger during breakfast which makes typing annoying
[07:13:04] <koen> hey hrw-uds
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[07:14:17] <ds2> sounds like an excuse to get a voice recogonition system going
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[07:16:20] <sam1> I have just ported android cupcake on beagle board rev c3. its giving the android screen. but I don't whether it is having ADB support or not. can anybody please tell me how to check that?
[07:16:39] <koen> wow another port
[07:16:50] <koen> wasn't rowboat, oxdroid, etc enough?
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[07:17:48] <sam1> koen, plz tell me how can I check that?
[07:17:50] <XorA|UDS> koen: well as every android is a nasty fork, it might as well be repeated over and over
[07:18:37] <ds2> XorA|UDS: a modern version of while(1) fork();?
[07:25:09] <XorA|UDS> ds2: pretty much
[07:25:18] <XorA|UDS> ds2: the lack of listening upstream doesnt help
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[07:43:34] <koen> XorA|UDS: upstream doesn't listen, it spiders and ranks
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[08:13:30] <tasslehoff> I have a small Qt-app that's mostly transparency, but I can't make the DSS treat it so. Any tips on how I can check the pixel values in fb0/overlay0 to see if they are as "0" as I think?
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[08:16:37] <ddd_> Anybody knows which release suppots DSPlink? I tried RLS25.14M3, everything is prefect, but does not support DSPlink, very sad.
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[08:32:54] <ddd_> For video coding on OMAP, Which distributor is better? Andriod or Angstrom?
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[08:36:04] <XorA|UDS> Angstrom
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[09:09:13] <ddd_> hey, XorA, does Angstrom support DSPlink?
[09:21:28] <dm8tbr> TUG
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[09:24:30] <koen> dm8tbr: any news on the fennec patch?
[09:24:39] <dm8tbr> ah, let me wrap that up
[09:28:07] <av500> ddd_: yes
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[09:31:54] <dm8tbr> koen: I'm going to rebuild it to see if I resolved that include/linking issue properly. it wasn't finding some internal libraries. sadly building mozilla takes ages.
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[09:34:36] <dm8tbr> av500: is the fb on gen6/7 24b?
[09:34:46] <av500> 32
[09:34:52] <dm8tbr> ok
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[09:35:38] <dm8tbr> I guess the use-native-bpp patch wasn't really necessary then... oh well
[09:36:57] <koen> usefull for all the 16bpp stuff out there
[09:37:20] <koen> XorA|UDS: http://www.flickr.com/photos/koenkooi/4600455317/
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[09:39:06] <dm8tbr> yeah, I know. that work isn't wasted. just wasn't needed in my case
[09:39:54] <XorA|UDS> koen: hehe
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[09:45:43] <dibbs> I have a FFT porting issue,porting from x86 to BB.
[09:46:40] <dibbs> Once after calculating the FFT(from fft.so),i get differing values between x86 and BB.
[09:47:03] <dibbs> the differing values are the last 3-4digits after the decimal point.
[09:47:29] <dibbs> Is there anything am missing out while porting?
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[09:48:25] <dibbs> is there anyone who has the same issue faced?
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[09:56:10] <DaveDavenport> what was the package to compile on angstrom (on the board itself)
[09:56:12] <DaveDavenport> forgot name
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[10:00:14] <tasslehoff> I've made a Qt-embedded application that I run with "./app -qws". I manage to make parts of it transparent by using a trans-key in the display manager, but I can't make alpha blending work. Any obvious misconfigurations in this area?
[10:00:59] <tasslehoff> My GUI has lots of transparency/alpha=0, and I have enabled alpha-blending
[10:02:36] <dibbs> Hello All,I have a FFT porting issue,porting from x86 to BB.
[10:02:53] <dibbs> Once after calculating the FFT(from fft.so),i get differing values between x86 and BB.
[10:03:06] <dibbs> the differing values are the last 3-4digits after the decimal point.
[10:03:24] <dibbs> Is there anything am missing out while porting?
[10:04:29] <dibbs> could any one help me in fixing this issue?
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[10:20:26] <XeMa> Hello all
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[10:21:56] <XeMa> I was wondering if any body knew how to remove the write access protection of the nand ? I am trying to use fw_setenv tool to change the uboot environment that would permit me to change the booting mtd
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[10:22:20] <XeMa> does any one knows any thing about that ?
[10:24:22] <av500> I guess it is set somewhere in the kernel
[10:25:19] <XeMa> in the kernel ? I looked there but didn't find much
[10:25:31] <XeMa> all write protection a off there
[10:25:58] <XeMa> I though of a uboot command to remove the protection
[10:26:28] <av500> afaik, the protection is a pure SW thing
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[10:30:37] <tasslehoff> does qt-embedded support alpha blending on 3530?
[10:31:38] <av500> tasslehoff: you can switch from colorkeying to alpha via the sysfs interface
[10:32:07] <XeMa> av500: ok I'll further into kernel configs
[10:32:40] <tasslehoff> av500, in the DSS you mean? I have switched manager0 to alpha, but my GUI remains firmly on top of my video
[10:33:13] <tasslehoff> so I wondered if its my Qt-embedded app that doesn't have a proper alpha channel.
[10:33:56] <av500> tasslehoff: that could well be
[10:34:03] <av500> also, is your dss setup for 24 or 32bit?
[10:34:11] <av500> in 24bit mode, alpha is ignored
[10:34:13] <tasslehoff> av500, excellent question
[10:34:17] <av500> you need to set the color format to 32
[10:34:27] <kantoka> Anyone who got an suggestion for a toolchain that will compile the latest u-boot?
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[10:34:40] <av500> kantoka: gcc
[10:34:55] <kantoka> yepp
[10:35:07] <noway> rcn-ee : apt work fine for you ?
[10:35:10] <kantoka> But a working toolchain installation
[10:35:21] <kantoka> rcn-ee?
[10:35:51] <kantoka> I'm running ubuntu
[10:36:00] <noway> which one
[10:36:06] * tasslehoff tries to find the answer
[10:36:16] <kantoka> 9.10
[10:36:22] <noway> lucid?
[10:36:36] <kantoka> will upgrade to 10.04 later this month though
[10:36:42] <kantoka> not yet
[10:36:49] <noway> u mean on your BB
[10:37:16] <kantoka> must be the latest I'll guess
[10:37:26] <kantoka> using the dev8000
[10:37:34] <noway> you have ubuntu on beagleboard ?
[10:37:41] <noway> ah
[10:37:42] <kantoka> nooo... :)
[10:37:54] <kantoka> Ubuntu on desktop!
[10:38:03] <noway> how you have installed ubuntu ?
[10:38:12] <noway> ah
[10:38:18] <kantoka> With the Ubuntu Live CD!
[10:38:29] <noway> what system run on your dev800
[10:38:57] <kantoka> the ??ngstr??m that it came with in the nand
[10:39:27] <kantoka> But I want to create an ubuntu server on the SD
[10:40:08] <kantoka> I need to build the xloader, u-boot and finally the linux kernel
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[10:40:19] <noway> you have to install lucid then apt-get apache2 mysql ......
[10:40:39] <noway> you will have a servr then
[10:40:48] <kantoka> yep
[10:41:10] <noway> you are frm usa?
[10:41:26] <kantoka> But a suitable working toolchain to compile the latest u-boot seems hard to find
[10:41:36] <kantoka> from europe! :)
[10:41:59] <noway> do u know what time is it there?
[10:42:05] <tasslehoff> av500, remember where I config the dss to 32 bit?
[10:42:34] <kantoka> 11:42... why?
[10:43:27] <noway> it s night
[10:43:35] <kantoka> So you're all are using precompiled u-boot's then?
[10:44:10] <kantoka> 11:42 (am)
[10:44:26] <noway> yes
[10:44:49] <noway> i compiled mein by my self
[10:45:17] <kantoka> so what tools did you use?
[10:45:41] <kantoka> what version of u-boot? I would like to use the 2010.03
[10:46:32] <noway> croos-ng
[10:46:39] <noway> ng cross
[10:46:44] <kantoka> aha
[10:46:55] <kantoka> how did you configure that?
[10:47:09] <kantoka> ELF or EABI?
[10:47:51] <noway> ELF
[10:48:25] <_koen_> kantoka: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/toolchains/ or http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom
[10:48:40] <_koen_> I'm suprised that didn't show up in google or the elinux wiki
[10:49:32] <kantoka> so that's why it doesn't work for me then. I have tool installation script that will setup for EABI. Compiling the latest u-boot will stop at errors.
[10:50:26] <_koen_> u-boot compiles fine with eabi
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[10:51:10] <kantoka> hmm...
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[10:51:13] <kantoka> :(
[10:51:43] <kantoka> the 2009.03 compiled fine. But not the 2010.03
[10:53:52] <kantoka> I followed the instructions from this lab: http://free-electrons.com/doc/training/beagle/labs.pdf
[10:54:11] <kantoka> in order to build a toolchain. But it seems to be somewhat outdated.
[10:55:17] <_koen_> use OE
[10:55:23] <_koen_> or a prebuilt angstrom toolchain
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[10:56:14] <kantoka> Having a look on the above links right now...
[10:56:43] <kantoka> what is 0E then?
[10:56:52] <kantoka> OE
[10:57:14] <cwillu_at_work> openembedded is a home-cooked thanksgiving turkey meal
[10:57:51] <cwillu_at_work> it basically builds everything you need, and serves quite nicely to base your actual work on
[10:57:52] <kantoka> ouch?
[10:58:08] <cwillu_at_work> it also includes ponies :p
[10:58:20] <cwillu_at_work> it will, however, take a while to build the first time :)
[10:58:33] <nlCortana> where is the file located (on BB) where the modules are loaded at bootup?
[10:58:37] <nlCortana> i want to add some
[10:58:51] <cwillu_at_work> nlCortana, it's not beagle specific
[10:59:01] <cwillu_at_work> /lib/modules/<kernel version> is a typical location
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[11:00:48] <cwillu_at_work> ooo, there it is
[11:00:52] <cwillu_at_work> it was hiding under a beagle
[11:01:15] <kantoka> 80 dollar? is that 16G or what?
[11:01:18] <cwillu_at_work> 4g
[11:01:21] <nlCortana> thanks, there are modules located ther (or something what starts with modules.* ) where to add the new modules?
[11:01:40] <cwillu_at_work> kantoka, slc flash
[11:01:56] <kantoka> aha
[11:01:59] <kantoka> faster one
[11:02:15] <cwillu_at_work> might be, but I'm actually more about the wear levelling and endurance
[11:02:29] <kantoka> wise
[11:02:30] <cwillu_at_work> got two in, trying to burn one of them out to check
[11:02:37] * cwillu_at_work checks
[11:03:20] <kantoka> I wrote broke the 512 mb sd that came with the devkit8000 :)
[11:03:21] <cwillu_at_work> currently at 300,000 writes with a sync in between each one, reading it back each time; no errors yet
[11:03:32] * cwillu_at_work huggles btrfs's checksumming
[11:03:58] <cwillu_at_work> I'll be quite happy if it lasts a week under that load (3 days so far)
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[11:05:10] <cwillu_at_work> http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=385-1032-ND
[11:05:29] <cwillu_at_work> they have an 8gb card, that's the biggest digikey stocks
[11:06:05] <kantoka> which one should I go for? http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/toolchains/
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[11:06:36] <cwillu_at_work> kantoka, openembedded will build the toolchain you need
[11:06:58] <cwillu_at_work> for a beagle, you'd want the first one I believe
[11:07:18] <cwillu_at_work> er, I guess depending on if you're cross compiling
[11:07:22] <kantoka> 21-Oct-2009 ?
[11:07:41] <cwillu_at_work> """OpenEmbedded provides an easy way to create a Qt Embedded SDK."""
[11:08:09] <kantoka> I'm using ubuntu 9.10 for desktop. So there must be a cross compile then.
[11:08:27] <kantoka> I'll guess
[11:08:33] <cwillu_at_work> well, openembedded can still make the toolchain
[11:08:47] <kantoka> what is qt-embedded?
[11:09:02] <cwillu_at_work> there's also a ppa with cross-compilers for arm
[11:09:02] <kantoka> (newbie warning)
[11:09:09] <cwillu_at_work> although I do most of my ubuntu stuff via qemu
[11:09:19] <kantoka> aha
[11:09:35] <cwillu_at_work> deb http://buildd.emdebian.org/debian/ unstable main
[11:09:35] <cwillu_at_work> deb-src http://buildd.emdebian.org/debian/ unstable main
[11:09:57] <cwillu_at_work> that + rootstock will get you up and running
[11:10:08] <cwillu_at_work> I'd still suggest at least familiarizing yourself with openembedded though
[11:10:17] <cwillu_at_work> it's useful to have more than one approach
[11:10:40] <kantoka> hold your horses... How am I gonna make this stuff together? :) Any website for studying the setup?
[11:10:50] <cwillu_at_work> read the openembedded setup :p
[11:11:04] <cwillu_at_work> ubuntu's rootstock will give you an image ready to be loaded onto a card though
[11:11:16] <cwillu_at_work> it's basically an overgrown shell script, so it's quite easy to hack up
[11:13:15] <kantoka> "The RootStock project aims to create a commandline and graphical set of tools to create a fully configured tarball or VM image of an ubuntu rootfs from scratch so that you can extract it to a root device on e.g. armel systems."
[11:14:29] <cwillu_at_work> does what it says on the tin :D
[11:15:08] <kantoka> WikiPedia on rootstock:
[11:15:10] <kantoka> "A rootstock is a plant, and sometimes just the stump, which already has an established, healthy root system used for grafting a cutting or budding from another plant. The tree part being grafted onto the rootstock is usually called the scion."
[11:15:30] <tasslehoff> bits_per_pixel is set to 32 in fb0 and 16 in fb1. is that a good foundation for later alpha blending?
[11:17:03] <kantoka> rootstock builds a rootfs without a kernel then?
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[11:30:57] <kantoka> cwillu_at_work : If I understand you right... You're compiling your stuff on a qemu virtual machine and then don't have to bother about crosscompiling... Right?
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[11:37:45] <cwillu_at_work> kantoka, often
[11:38:10] <cwillu_at_work> there's a few things I use a cross compiler for (specifically, things with somewhat sane build environments but which are big enough that qemu is a pain)
[11:38:25] <cwillu_at_work> I do generally stick to the ubuntu binaries though
[11:38:56] <cwillu_at_work> kantoka, re: kernels, rcn-ee has kernels available for ubuntu which I've generally used; I think there's a few other people as well
[11:43:10] <jkridner> dl9pf: It doesn???t appear to be the latest version 3_01_00_06 ??? the version tag should read 1.4.14.2616. It is reading 1.4.14.2514
[11:44:52] <jkridner> dl9pf: also, you don't happen to have another board with a newer SGX revision (1.2.1), do you? This one has 1.0.3.
[11:47:14] <DaveDavenport> /usr/lib/gcc/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/4.3.3/../../../crt1.o: In function `_start':
[11:47:16] <DaveDavenport> init.c:(.text+0x2c): undefined reference to `__libc_csu_fini'
[11:47:18] <DaveDavenport> init.c:(.text+0x34): undefined reference to `__libc_csu_init'
[11:47:20] <DaveDavenport> damn, how to solve this
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[11:54:21] <dm8tbr> koen: currently the recipe craps out because the linker doesn't find those libraries. I'm pretty sure it's not hard to fix it just that I'm not a pro at bitbake/mozilla. want it anyway?
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[11:59:44] <DaveDavenport> it is on the board itself
[11:59:51] <DaveDavenport> installed task-native-sdk
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[12:27:18] <tasslehoff> Now I have a translucent Qt app on my host, but it has a green background on my X-less Beagle.
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[12:36:21] <_koen_> dm8tbr: yes please
[12:37:08] <av500> tasslehoff: 1) green is a nice color
[12:37:29] <av500> 2) green is what you get when you fill a YUYV overlay with 0x0000
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[12:41:16] <tasslehoff> av500, I'm waiting for 3) ;)
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[12:41:41] <tasslehoff> 3) what you need to do is....
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[12:46:05] <av500> tasslehoff: that i said in 2) already
[12:46:08] <av500> 4) profit
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[12:51:46] <av500> _koen_: XM?
[12:51:56] <av500> (daily question ny mru)
[12:52:01] <av500> by
[12:52:11] <mru> extra medium?
[12:53:54] <_koen_> it's still xtra broken
[12:53:57] <tasslehoff> av500, I don't understand 2) then, I think the green gfx has alpha=0, and since Buck is playing in /dev/fb1, I thought he should appear on top. I can only see him throught the mouse pointer though :)
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[13:01:04] <av500> hmm
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[13:40:06] <dm8tbr> _koen_: http://www.openaos.org/tmp/fennec-1.1b1.tar.bz2 and that's the error I ran into - http://pastebin.mozilla.org/723390
[13:41:16] <dm8tbr> the native-bpp patch has been adapted to the newer code and applies cleanly
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[13:41:56] <dm8tbr> I didn't use an git url as I'm used to work with tarballs
[13:42:56] <_koen_> 1990 called, they want their tarballs back :)
[13:43:33] <mru> at least it's not a diff pasted into a word document
[13:43:44] <dm8tbr> I'm learning about git and all but it takes some time
[13:44:12] <av500> mru: ti has a patent on that
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[13:44:47] <dm8tbr> one of the things will be to convert openaos to git. that should make it easier to keep things in sync
[13:45:15] <koen> dm8tbr: it seems like you have a really, really old version of the fennec recipe
[13:46:37] <dm8tbr> koen: I started out with the really really old one yes. then I found the updated one and tried to put things together somehow
[13:47:52] <koen> I'm 'porting' it now :)
[13:48:16] <dm8tbr> just rip out whatever you deem useful :)
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[14:16:37] <dm8tbr> _koen_: did I even touch the .desktop file? :)
[14:16:59] <_koen_> yes
[14:17:40] <dm8tbr> ah, probably the executable path
[14:18:02] <dm8tbr> or the name, whatever
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[14:49:34] <sakoman_> _koen_: heh, first boot of a GNOME image is avery good ram test :-)
[14:49:50] <sakoman_> one that my xM consistently fails :-(
[14:50:08] <_koen_> exactly
[14:50:20] <_koen_> all those single bit xml failures
[14:50:38] <sakoman_> has Jason uncovered the source to the alleged fix?
[14:50:55] <_koen_> not that I heard of
[14:51:08] <_koen_> and I still don't know if it actually fixes things
[14:51:21] <_koen_> and I refuse to test anything without access to source on this front
[14:52:14] <sakoman_> tomba and I are puzzling over why a patch from the psp kernel gets DSS2 working on the xM
[14:52:32] <sakoman_> it would seem to be completely unrelated, but yet it works
[14:52:39] <_koen_> heh
[14:52:44] <_koen_> which one?
[14:52:57] <sakoman_> I suspect some strange, undocumented side effect of setting a register bit
[14:53:40] <sakoman_> this one:
[14:53:42] <sakoman_> http://www.sakoman.com/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=linux-omap-2.6.git;a=commit;h=d11b22e59bb9f10a27586e191d1cca68b3c0d25e
[14:54:17] <sakoman_> it is slightly different that the one in the PSP tree -- that one does the change for all processors
[14:54:34] <sakoman_> since we don't understand why it works I do it only on 36xx
[14:55:11] <sakoman_> I'm sure we'll figure it out
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[15:13:39] <av500> _koen_: "...It uses OE but it's very clear." lol
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[15:14:18] <_koen_> av500: what, where, when?
[15:14:58] <av500> bbml
[15:16:25] <_koen_> right
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[15:16:42] <_koen_> the funny thing is that that guide is still using the old, manual way
[15:17:01] * av500 is reading it
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[15:19:18] <_koen_> with the recent angstrom instructions you need 1 script and teh cgt .bin file, then do 'bitbake ti-dsplink'
[15:20:09] <_koen_> if that is too hard for people, I shudder at the thought of them using xdc and RTSC
[15:20:54] <prpplague> hehe
[15:20:58] <prpplague> _koen_: greetings
[15:21:04] <av500> wtf, 122MB DDRALGHEAP
[15:21:40] <_koen_> and 122 1MB pools?
[15:22:05] <av500> http://pixhawk.ethz.ch/tutorials/omap/dsplink/memorymap
[15:22:12] <av500> no, cmem is 8mb
[15:22:16] <_koen_> av500: I heard of plans to use a single heap in the future instead of a gazillion pools
[15:22:29] <av500> _koen_: what? I use a single heap since 4ys
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[15:23:01] <_koen_> that's what I said as well :)
[15:23:57] <av500> _koen_: when we started with CE/link there was only poolz in cmem, so we hacked up our own allocator in a day and used it ever since...
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[15:36:58] <jedix> I'm having an issue with ubuntu starting kde's netbook stuff
[15:37:27] <jedix> I installed kubuntu-netbook but when kde starts, I never get anything on the desktop
[15:37:34] <jedix> anyone seen this before?
[15:37:42] <prpplague> jedix: might ask over in #ubuntu-arm
[15:37:57] <ddompe> _koen_: ping
[15:38:04] <_koen_> ddompe: pong
[15:38:16] <ddompe> _koen_: looking at the leopard dm365?
[15:38:20] <jedix> prpplague: thanks
[15:38:24] <prpplague> np
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[15:40:23] <_koen_> ddompe: yes, for the Linuxtag demo
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[15:40:38] <ddompe> we have an internal version we are working
[15:40:49] <ddompe> way improved over the release you downloaded
[15:41:09] <ddompe> 2.6.32, DVSDK 3.0, Camera sensor for HD (quite in development yet)
[15:41:25] <ddompe> quality for the camera sensor is still work in progress
[15:41:42] <ddompe> I can get you an early release, would work better that the one you downloaded
[15:44:04] <_koen_> ddompe: yes please
[15:44:11] * _koen_ gets called away for dinner
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[15:51:48] <hrw-uds> _koen_: smacznego
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[15:53:28] <DanaG> What I want is for the damn powervr thing to use DKMS.
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[16:16:56] <koen> ddompe: I now have a full compliment of leoparboard stuff: dm355, dm365, 2m, 3m and 5m sensor and dvi board
[16:17:16] <ddompe> I see
[16:17:37] <koen> but I need something with a recent (>2.6.27) kernel :)
[16:17:58] <koen> so 2.6.32 would be awesome
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[17:10:49] <koen> http://beagleboard.blogspot.com/2010/05/six-beagleboardorg-gsoc-projects.html
[17:11:21] <av500> koen: did I mention the color scheme of that blog is sub par?
[17:11:31] * koen blames jkridner
[17:12:16] <koen> jkridner: demo image running on C3: http://www.flickr.com/photos/koenkooi/4600982260/
[17:12:43] <koen> with a zippy as you can see from the networkmanager dialog
[17:13:35] <dm8tbr> is there anything like bochs or qemu to use _under_ angstrom?
[17:13:39] <DanaG> Speaking of fftw:
[17:13:44] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/extace/+bug/399565
[17:14:30] * dm8tbr would like to stick it to engadget who point out that we don't run WfW3.11 on the A5IT ;)
[17:14:54] <av500> dm8tbr: there is always wince to boot :)
[17:14:58] <DanaG> a51t?
[17:15:15] <dm8tbr> DanaG: archos5 internet tablet. their 7th generation hardware
[17:16:09] <dm8tbr> I did 2 just for fun images recently. engadget picked it up - http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/archos-5-shown-running-maemo-android-2-0-but-no-windows-3-11-y/
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[17:17:37] <dm8tbr> av500: probably not even that hard, but running microsoft code natively is like drawing a pentagram and sacrificing an critter.
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[17:40:07] <Ikarus> running qemu on maemo works though :)
[17:40:28] <Ikarus> dosbox aswell actually
[17:41:53] <dl9pf> jkridner: its an B5, no other here just now. the output is from 3_01_00_02 as this is the only version i got working
[17:42:07] <dl9pf> 00_06 userspace doesn't work at all
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[18:14:36] <dm8tbr> Ikarus: but I guess qemu would need some loving to compile properly? bombs out pretty early for me
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[18:15:50] * djlewis_ says get a bigger hammer after qemu compile
[18:19:25] * av500 is fed up with TI for the week...
[18:20:47] <av500> at least the religiously follow the (non existing) 80char limit in the linux kernel, breaking up lines mid-character if needed....
[18:21:48] <djlewis_> gm av500 :)
[18:23:01] <emeb> djlewis_: gm
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[18:28:54] <rcn-ee> dl9pf, at this point 00_06 relies on some psp kernel only stuff..
[18:29:54] <jedix> does anyone have a working xorg.conf for two displays?
[18:29:58] <jedix> for the fb
[18:30:23] <jedix> somehow using /dev/fb0 and /dev/fb1 managed to use the same physical device on the blaze
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[18:31:27] <Ikarus> dm8tbr: it compiles fine from the Debian sources
[18:32:19] <dm8tbr> Ikarus: ic. well it's nothing really important anyway :)
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[18:39:45] <sakoman_> koen: 06 only works with the PSP kernel
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[18:42:23] <rcn-ee> sakoman_, how far into 06 loading have you gotten? I've gotten this far.. (with debug enabled) http://elinux.org/Talk:BeagleBoardUbuntu#SGX_3_01_00_06
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[18:44:07] <sakoman_> rcn-ee: to be honest I gave up shortly after determining that it wouldn't build against the linux-omap kernel
[18:45:14] <sakoman_> when I asked about it on the TI e2e site, the response was essentially "we validate on PSP kernel, you are on your own for linux-omap"
[18:45:15] <rcn-ee> okay.. ;) i got that far, saved the error and went back to working on other things i needed to fix...
[18:45:34] <rcn-ee> i saw that message, how nice of them..
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[18:51:30] <_av500_> djlewis_: gm :)
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[18:52:53] <BigWookie> hi, I got my beagleboard with angstrom and mpd installed, but i can't figure out what to configure as mixer to be able to set the volume remotely
[18:53:01] <_av500_> rcn-ee: sakoman_ why am i not surprised...
[18:55:23] <rcn-ee> it could be a lot worse, i've been reading into some of the tegra kernel threads...
[18:55:55] <_av500_> rcn-ee: hmm, i wanted to turn to tegra to "get down"...
[18:56:01] <_av500_> :(
[18:56:53] <ds2> _av500_: what are you doing with Tegra?
[18:56:54] <DanaG> I wish powervr would make a damned DKMS thing/
[18:56:59] <DanaG> Or at least make their installer not suck.
[18:57:17] <DanaG> Where "suck" is "tries to Make Clean on a hard-coded target directory that doesn't exist"
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[18:57:28] <DanaG> And it does "make clean" before MAKING anything!
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[18:58:05] <_av500_> ds2: no idea yet
[18:58:15] <ds2> _av500_: do you have Tegra hw?
[18:58:27] <_av500_> maybe putting it in a blender next to an omap3...
[18:58:59] <_av500_> ds2: soon
[18:59:01] <DanaG> And what's the actual NV GPU in tegra? I wanna' see glxinfo. =??
[18:59:02] <rcn-ee> good episode fo will it blend.. ;)
[18:59:42] <BigWookie> lol
[18:59:53] <_av500_> DanaG: what you had in your pc 5ys ago
[19:00:30] <DanaG> 5 years ago... I had a 9800 Pro.
[19:00:34] <DanaG> =??
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[19:02:02] <DanaG> hmm, does anyone have a working GL on the powervr? I wanna' know what glxinfo shows.
[19:02:07] <DanaG> Or rather, does it even DO glx?
[19:02:20] <BigWookie> okay got it, have phun
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[19:03:16] <_av500_> DanaG: ok, so maybe some more ys ago...
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[19:03:31] <DanaG> Before that, a 7500. And before that, a Voodoo3.
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[19:36:35] <koen> DanaG: no glx
[19:36:40] <koen> DanaG: only egl
[19:36:44] <DanaG> Bummer.
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[19:41:45] <robtow> reaperofsouls - you there?
[19:42:46] <robtow> Anyone else besides reaperofsouls working at Montavista Software?
[19:45:48] <mru> unfortunately I think there are
[19:45:55] <mru> one man couldn't do that much damage alone
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[19:48:16] <noway_> rcn-ee : could you please try apt-get install phonon-backend-gstreamer on debian squeeze and see if it works for you ?
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[20:06:13] <robtow> mru - a lot of Montavista peeps have moved to Mentor
[20:06:31] <mru> hmm, maybe that explains the musb issues
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[20:07:29] <_av500_> lol
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[20:50:54] <djsmith> Can anyone give me some pointers on getting /dev/spidev to appear? I've followed several threads, and applied the patch here to my 2.6.32 kernel, with no luck: http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/d6a4e0703033cada
[20:54:56] <djsmith> Should the 2.6.32 kernel require any patching for SPI to work?
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[20:58:08] <prpplague> djsmith: what is it you are trying to acomplish?
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[20:58:59] <djsmith> I have an offboard chip that speaks SPI, to which I want to speak from the Beagleboard, so I've wired up the appropriate expansion pins to it. I want to use the spidev_test.c program to test it, but I can't get /dev/spidev to appear.
[20:59:29] <djsmith> I understand I have to setup the pinmux for the SPI pins, hence the kernel patch, but so far I have no joy.
[21:02:01] <djsmith> The boot output does complain about invalid pin indexes. Not sure if that's related.
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[21:04:48] <prpplague> djsmith: i assume you have taken into consideration that the i/o on the beagle is 1.8v
[21:05:05] <prpplague> djsmith: and that your device is using the correct voltage and/or level shifters
[21:05:31] <djsmith> I haven't gotten to that point yet. For now, I haven't even gotten the kernel to create the /dev/spidev node, so I can't even begin to test.
[21:06:31] <prpplague> djsmith: and i assume you have the spidev turned on in the kernel?
[21:06:42] <djsmith> prpplague: Yes indeed. :)
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[21:07:32] <djsmith> prpplague: assuming you are talking about the spidev menuconfig entry, that is.
[21:07:39] <prpplague> correct
[21:07:48] <prpplague> djsmith: can you pastebin your boot log?
[21:07:58] <djsmith> Sure.
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[21:09:52] <djsmith> prpplague: Here's the boot log from start to finish: http://pastebin.com/TKhGut6J
[21:11:02] <prpplague> djsmith: doesn't look like you have something configured properly
[21:11:09] <prpplague> djsmith: can you pastebin your kernel config
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[21:13:01] <djsmith> prpplague: http://pastebin.com/x6U2HHmZ
[21:13:24] <djsmith> prpplague: I'm starting a fresh build of 2.6.32 without my mods right now, to see if maybe I should have left it vanilla.
[21:13:54] <prpplague> djsmith: ok, one more paste, can you pastebin your board-omap3beagle.c file
[21:15:39] <djsmith> prpplague: board-omap3beagle.c: http://pastebin.com/e2XyuiYM
[21:15:45] * prpplague looks
[21:15:59] <ds2> hmmm dogs sure attract a lot of DJs
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[21:18:45] <prpplague> djsmith: so under /sys/class
[21:19:32] <djsmith> prpplague: Yes, is this what I am looking for: # ls -l /sys/class/spidev/spidev4.0/dev -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 Dec 31 18:26 /sys/class/spidev/spidev4.0/dev
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[21:21:03] <prpplague> djsmith: ok so what is the problem?
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[21:21:34] <djsmith> prpplague: When I run spidev_test on that device, I get this:
[21:21:52] <djsmith> prpplague: can't open device: No such file or directory
[21:21:53] <prpplague> djsmith: i thought you said you didn't have anything wired up yet?
[21:22:15] <djsmith> prpplague: I don't, but I expect to see the device node regardless. Is that not the case?
[21:23:14] <prpplague> djsmith: what is the command line you are using for spidev_test?
[21:23:44] <djsmith> prpplague: At first, I tried it with just the device name (that failed with the above error).
[21:23:57] <djsmith> prpplague: Now I run this: /spidev_test -D /sys/class/spidev/spidev4.0/dev -s 10000000 -b 8 -l and I get this: can't open device: Permission denied
[21:24:29] <djsmith> prpplague: And I have wired the Beagle's SOMI to its own SIMO (using SPI4 pins)
[21:24:31] <prpplague> djsmith: spidev_test is suppose to be run on a device node, not a sysfs entry
[21:24:54] <prpplague> djsmith: need to check your /dev dir for spidev device nodes
[21:24:58] <djsmith> prpplague: That's what I thought, but have no device node (/dev/spidev is missing).
[21:25:14] <djsmith> prpplague: find /dev | grep spi gives no results.
[21:25:14] <prpplague> are you running something like udev?
[21:26:02] <prpplague> djsmith: where are you getting your rootfs?
[21:26:21] <djsmith> prpplague: From buildroot
[21:26:27] <prpplague> djsmith: ahh
[21:26:30] <prpplague> djsmith: ok so no udev
[21:26:44] <prpplague> djsmith: you will need to generate the correct device node entry
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[21:27:00] <djsmith> prpplague: Oh ok. I see. Becausee my buildroot rootfs doesn't include it.
[21:27:05] <mru> udev is really useful
[21:27:08] <djsmith> prpplague: Can you point me to the right place for that?
[21:27:50] <prpplague> http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/spi/spidev
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[21:28:30] <prpplague> djsmith: you can get the major/minor info in detail from your sysfs entries
[21:28:52] <djsmith> prpplague: and then run mknod myself?
[21:29:07] <prpplague> djsmith: yea
[21:29:22] <djsmith> prpplague: It's been a while since I've had to do that. Does udev do that for me?
[21:29:26] <mru> or save yourself the trouble and run udev
[21:29:27] <prpplague> yes
[21:29:35] <djsmith> prpplague: I'm happy to do that. Does buildroot support it?
[21:29:49] <mru> if it doesn't, that's one more nail in its coffin
[21:30:04] <prpplague> djsmith: it should, but not by default
[21:30:17] <prpplague> mru: not everyone needs a large system build
[21:30:20] <djsmith> Okay, I'm answering my own question. It's there. I just have to turn it on. Am I likely using mdev or devfs or something else?
[21:30:29] <prpplague> mru: buildroot has it's uses
[21:30:39] <mru> prpplague: udev is hardly large or complicated to build
[21:31:01] <ds2> mru: mdev
[21:31:02] <mru> and it saves me the trouble of maintaining a correct /dev
[21:31:08] <prpplague> mru: but does add to boot time as well as complexity to the system
[21:31:15] <ds2> a proper static /dev is not that hard to maintain
[21:31:20] <mru> mdev takes no measurable time to run
[21:31:30] <mru> ds2: harder than not doing it
[21:31:44] <ds2> well... if you want to count activation energies :P
[21:31:48] * prpplague will avoid getting into an argument
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[21:32:36] <djsmith> For my application, boot time is not terribly important. If I turn on udev, do I need to remove all the dev nodes created for me by buildroot?
[21:33:12] <mru> my rootfs has a minimal /dev with only console, null, and a few others
[21:33:19] <ds2> spidev is a bit trouble some in that it really wants an active /dev management system
[21:33:37] <mru> I then mount a tmpfs over that an populate it with udev
[21:33:44] <ds2> if you are willing to jump through hoops, you can do it by hand
[21:34:14] <ds2> you can always backport everything and use devfs
[21:34:18] * ds2 runs
[21:34:49] <mru> or use greg's misguided devtmpfs
[21:35:49] <djsmith> This is odd. I can't seem to find udev in my buildroot menuconfig, even though a '/' udev search says it's there...
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[21:41:31] <djsmith> prpplague: Ahh, it appears my busybox is configured for mdev. Would that preclude the use of udev?
[21:42:06] <prpplague> djsmith: if you have mdev, just use tht
[21:42:10] <p_beagle> hi, can someone help me around this error message "NOTE: The checksums for '/home/jars/OE/angstrom-angstrom-setup-scripts/build/downloads/glibc-2.9.tar.bz2' did not match."
[21:42:39] <p_beagle> everytime i run bitbake it says so....
[21:42:46] <p_beagle> how can i correct it?
[21:43:04] <djsmith> prpplague: How do I use it? I thought the point of udev/mdev was to automagically create the device nodes for me.
[21:43:40] <djsmith> prpplague: Ah hah. Running mdev -s just created /dev/spidev3.0 and /dev/spidev4.0
[21:47:13] <p_beagle> can any one..help me out of this?
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[21:57:16] <djsmith> prpplague: Thank you very much for your help. I now have /dev/spidev* and can start testing with my offboard hardware. You are a lifesaver!
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[21:57:44] <prpplague> djsmith: be sure and use the correct voltage levels, or you will let the magic smoke out of your beagle
[21:57:51] <Ceriand|work> djsmith: make sure you also set /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug to mdev so you get dynamic device file adds too
[21:58:43] <djsmith> Right now it's set to /sbin/hotplug. Shall I change it to /sbin/mdev
[21:59:20] <Ceriand|work> yea
[21:59:37] <Ceriand|work> or just symlink /sbin/hotplug to /sbin/mdev
[22:00:14] <djsmith> Ok, will do. The fact that my rootfs doesn't even have /sbin/hotplug is telling. Woops. :)
[22:02:22] <djsmith> And I'll double check the SPI voltages on my device before hooking it up. Thanks for the tip. 1.8v, right?
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