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IRC Log for 2010-07-27

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[00:42:58] <mshooshtari> Hello all
[00:43:26] <djlewis> hi back at ya.
[00:43:28] <mshooshtari> I was wondering where I could find documentation about omap DSS2
[00:43:49] <mshooshtari> I would like to configure hdmi mirroring, but I'm having some difficulty and documentation would likely help.
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[01:01:40] <mshooshtari> djlewis: Have any advice on documentation, how to set up the devices from the fb on up?
[01:02:00] <mshooshtari> I can use the commands to turn off the screen on my phone and turn it back on
[01:02:01] <djlewis> mshooshtari: google?
[01:02:09] <mshooshtari> tried that, that's how I found out about you guys
[01:02:17] <djlewis> TI
[01:02:35] <mshooshtari> do you know what I should search for? I think that may be my problem.
[01:02:48] <mshooshtari> If I don't know what question to ask, TI or google won't help much.
[01:03:27] <djlewis> what are you implying with hdmi mirroring?
[01:03:38] <GrizzlyAdams> i fucking hate adobe
[01:03:39] <mshooshtari> I have display0 and display1
[01:04:00] <GrizzlyAdams> i've been asking them for a rgb565 exporter for 15 years, and they don't ever do it
[01:04:04] <mshooshtari> I want to mirror display0 which is an lcd device to display1 which is an hdtv device.
[01:04:07] <ds2> uh...
[01:04:09] <ds2> Beagle?
[01:04:22] <djlewis> tnx ds2
[01:04:30] <djlewis> go for it
[01:04:39] <GrizzlyAdams> somehow that ended up in the wrong channel :P
[01:04:52] <ds2> GrizzlyAdams: the hate is shared ;)
[01:05:39] <GrizzlyAdams> i'd love to make a bootlogo for one of my devices without having to export the image as individual channels, dither them individually, and merge the results
[01:05:50] <djlewis> and I hoped you two were chiming in on hdmi mirroring :(
[01:05:54] <GrizzlyAdams> you get better results when you can dither cross-channel
[01:06:34] <Ceriand|work> the video signal should drive both the lcd port and the dvi encoder at the same time by default
[01:06:47] <ds2> djlewis: HDMI mirroring on what? got no answer so it is assume that the question is withdrawn.
[01:07:03] <mshooshtari> droidx
[01:07:33] <mshooshtari> djlewis: I assumed you wanted to know which devices
[01:07:41] <ds2> Okay, feel free to configure the display to do that.
[01:07:58] <ds2> the wiring on the Beagle is different from some of the other designs floating around based on the same SoC.
[01:08:10] <mshooshtari> There are 4 things that may need configuring. overlay, manager, display, and framebuffer
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[03:38:07] <jl_> av500: I closed ce debug info, now the info is very few :)
[03:38:18] <jl_> av500: I got an error: Failed to create display device
[03:38:55] <jl_> av500: Failed to open cdec engine decode
[03:40:58] <jl_> av500: When booted, an error was printed "Error: Failed to put display buffer "
[03:45:39] <djlewis> gn
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[04:20:30] <hitlin37> ?
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[04:35:24] <ds2> whoa
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[04:51:45] <hitlin37> whats the username for angstrom
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[04:53:20] <ds2> tried root?
[04:53:24] <hitlin37> ya
[04:53:28] <hitlin37> not working
[04:53:47] <hitlin37> user root,password nothing
[04:54:10] <hitlin37> i generated image using narcissus
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[06:07:55] <hitlin37> if angstrom scripts support proxies ,what option i need to use
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[06:17:42] <ddd_> any body knows whether it is license free when developing codec using TI codec engine framework?
[06:17:52] <av500> i think so
[06:18:47] <ddd_> thx
[06:19:39] <av500> is there no license to read?
[06:20:10] <ddd_> did not find it when installing it.
[06:20:34] <av500> I'm sure TI has a licence somewhere
[06:20:36] <ds2> hmmmm
[06:20:54] <av500> mmmh
[06:21:22] <hitlin37> hey av500,if my image is not taking username as root what could b the problem
[06:21:52] <av500> wrong username?
[06:22:08] <hitlin37> but default is root
[06:22:11] <hitlin37> then
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[06:22:23] <ddd_> you may add a new username and psw
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[06:24:16] <hitlin37> in which location i can add new user
[06:24:40] <ddd_> when you login you can add
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[06:25:30] <hitlin37> i can only access thru serial,gui i cant access
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[06:26:22] <ddd_> doesn't mattter gui on board
[06:26:30] <hitlin37> strange thing is serial takes root as user but gui gives authentication failure
[06:27:27] <ddd_> create a user at your hyper terminal
[06:27:40] <hitlin37> hmmm
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[06:31:47] <hitlin37> but generating a image using narcissus and now facing this...is it common problem,or i missed something
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[06:39:09] <hitlin37> how do i use the proxy option with oebb.sh
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[07:00:32] <koen> hitlin37: vi oebb.sh and read
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[07:02:00] <mru> koen: vi: command not found
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[07:02:08] <mru> koen: does this mean I don't have OE?
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[07:05:22] <koen> something like that
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[07:08:03] <ds2> are setting a few variables confusing enough that you have to write a script to do that? :D
[07:09:18] <jl_> av500: hi
[07:09:24] <mru> ds2: if you have to do it many times the script might save some typing
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[07:11:09] <ddd_> what is meaning of "sdo" folder inside CE?
[07:11:21] <jl_> CE - rserverOpen: can't start 'cs.x64P'; Processor_create failed
[07:11:29] <jl_> http://pastebin.com/s2vcy8f5
[07:12:04] <jl_> Who could give me some info about the err? Thank you!
[07:13:32] <_koen_> av500: your vp8 mail is now with the high ups
[07:13:44] <av500> :)
[07:14:05] <av500> _koen_: please dont replay "vladimir does not need that"
[07:14:08] <av500> reply
[07:15:57] <jl_> av500: I have opened trace, could you give some advices? http://pastebin.com/s2vcy8f5
[07:16:38] <ds2> typing is good practice
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[07:17:23] <av500> Loading and starting DSP server 'cs.x64P' FAILED, status=[0x80008008]
[07:17:31] <av500> always the same error
[07:18:09] <av500> its inside the dsplinkk module
[07:21:07] <jl_> av500: yes, I found the same problem in TI: http://e2e.ti.com/support/embedded/f/354/p/52959/189604.aspx#189604
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[07:22:14] <av500> no
[07:22:21] <av500> @1,002,044us: [+7 T:0x4001f080] OP - Processor_create> ERROR: cannot access file cs.x64P
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[07:23:37] <jl_> av500: yes, you are right
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[07:40:56] <jl_> av500: PROC_attach failed . Status = [0x80008008]
[07:41:13] <jl_> av500: I run dsp sample: message
[07:41:47] <jl_> av500: ./message message.out 1000
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[07:49:41] <woglinde_> jl_ wasnt you at this state yesterday?
[07:56:55] <av500> jl_: http://av500.posterous.com/loading-and-starting-dsp-server-failed-status
[08:00:36] <jl_> av500: I got it, It's INT conflict
[08:01:13] <jl_> av500: I disabled camerer, dsplink test ok
[08:01:35] <jl_> av500: I disabled camera, dsplink test ok
[08:02:26] <jl_> av500: the test is ok: ./message message.out 1000
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[08:10:19] <av500> jl_: ok
[08:10:42] <av500> jl_: what camera module is that?
[08:10:47] <av500> and why is it loaded?
[08:10:52] <av500> is that on a BB?
[08:11:26] <woglinde_> av500 as I understand it yesterday its another board
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[08:12:37] <koen> which dsplink is that?
[08:12:51] <koen> I reported that conflict months ago and AIUI it has been fixes
[08:12:53] <koen> fixed
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[08:13:51] <av500> koen: actually more annoying is the absolute lack of error message from dsplinkk
[08:14:17] <koen> the 80808 one is "generic error" iirc
[08:14:18] <av500> that would have saved me countless hours too
[08:14:23] <woglinde_> koen he yesterday said he is using 2.6.29 kernel
[08:14:24] <av500> koen: DSP_EFAIL
[08:14:25] <jl_> av500: you can see it: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:tSK8D-0fGWQJ:hi.baidu.com/ffjwjf/blog/item/6e2132178093625df3de32d6.html+PROC_attach+failed+.+Status+%3D+%5B0x80008008%5D&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk
[08:14:39] <koen> woglinde_: ah, that's ancient
[08:14:51] <jl_> av500: Device Drivers->Multimedia Devices->Video Capture Adapters->OMAP 3 Camera Support
[08:15:06] <jl_> av500: OMAP Implemenation->IOMMU Support
[08:15:15] <woglinde_> but I give up, he seems to understand only parts of what we are saying or advice him
[08:15:39] <jl_> av500: 28: 0 INTC omap-iommu.2
[08:15:49] <av500> yes, I understand
[08:16:01] <av500> as koen said, most likely fixed in never dsplinkk or kernel
[08:16:15] <av500> koen: commiturl for the fix?
[08:16:18] <jl_> av500: I select them as module
[08:16:22] <av500> jl_: yes
[08:16:28] <av500> I understand
[08:17:42] <jl_> av500: then I test using dsplink tools: message and loop, tests past
[08:17:50] <av500> yes, you said so
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[08:21:29] <_koen_> av500: somewhere in the 600 psp kernel patches and/or the private link repo
[08:23:11] <woglinde_> koen but his great goal is to port gst dsp stuff to android
[08:23:35] <_koen_> didn't TI do that ages ago?
[08:23:50] <_koen_> the big problem with that is that you'd fail the android compliance suite
[08:24:01] <_koen_> since that demands opencore
[08:24:11] <_koen_> (unless it got changed, haven't look at that in years)
[08:26:40] <jl_> http://labs.embinux.org/index.php/Android_For_OMAP3_with_Gstreamer_Integration
[08:28:17] <jl_> but it hasn't TI plugin and TI dvsdk
[08:29:33] <woglinde_> gst-openmax *g*
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[08:30:46] <woglinde_> and with this bootcmdline it will not work anyway
[08:30:48] <woglinde_> console=ttyS2,115200n8 noinitrd root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 video=omapfb.mode=dvi:1280x720MR-24@50 init=/init rootfstype=ext3 rw rootdelay=1 nohz=off androidboot.console=ttyS2
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[08:36:42] <_koen_> heh
[08:36:45] <_koen_> cargo cult
[08:36:48] <_koen_> nohz=off
[08:36:55] <_koen_> and rootdelay as well
[08:38:13] <mru> I see a lot people still reserving fb1 vram as well
[08:38:24] <mru> omapfbplay used to require that a long time ago
[08:40:42] <koen> I still do that as well
[08:40:48] <mru> why?
[08:40:53] <mru> it really isn't needed
[08:41:04] <mru> in fact, it can be harmful
[08:41:13] <koen> tbh I on;y need to do that for fb0 to get tripple buf for gles
[08:41:23] <mru> "recent" omapfbplay uses exactly the amount allocated if it's not zero
[08:41:40] <mru> so if you allocate a too small amount, things will fail
[08:42:03] <koen> woglinde_: do you also see 'common' not getting picked up anymore in siteconfig?
[08:42:04] <mru> I should probably add flag to force an override of that
[08:42:20] <mru> useful if it doesn't clean up properly
[08:42:25] <mru> (not that i ever crashes...)
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[08:43:08] <kunguz> Hi again, I keep getting Verifying Checksum ... Bad Data CRC after setting bootcmd and bootargs
[08:43:19] <kunguz> Any ideas?
[08:43:50] <kunguz> av500: by the way, thank you the problem was the cable. I solved it by repairing the cable
[08:43:55] <thurbad> does anyone know a good option to use to get Mplayer to scale up 2x efficiently
[08:44:15] <kunguz> Verifying Checksum ... Bad Data CRC appears during the boot process of the kernel
[08:44:27] <mru> kunguz: bad uimage
[08:44:28] <thurbad> 2xsai works well, but doesn't seem to work with the display driver that is being used
[08:44:46] <mru> thurbad: what display driver is it using?
[08:45:06] <woglinde_> koen do you have kergoth last patch?
[08:45:16] <woglinde_> I couldnt pull now
[08:45:17] <thurbad> not sure exactly, I'm using it inside of a sdl app
[08:45:20] <kunguz> mru: how do I fix it? I copied it to the SD card several times but no luck. But if I don't change any bootcmd and bootargs, it pass this part and have some kernel panic at a later stage
[08:45:52] <thurbad> but I think it may be using x11
[08:46:59] <mru> sdl is the most evil thing ever to happen to video
[08:47:16] <mru> the omap xv driver could use some improvement
[08:47:19] <mru> to be polite
[08:48:25] <kunguz> mru: when I give 'fatload mmc 0 0x80300000 uImage' command, it gives me an error like this: ** Unable to use mmc 0:1 for fatload **
[08:48:39] <mru> did you run mmc init?
[08:50:20] <woglinde_> kunguz are you powering up with usbcable?
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[08:50:46] <kunguz> woglinde_: yes, unfortunately I have no other choice at the moment
[08:50:59] <kunguz> woglinde_: I have no 5V source
[08:51:22] <woglinde_> kunguz koen prepared an uImage which dont segfaults at musb
[08:51:47] <mru> even if that was the problem, it should get further
[08:52:01] <mru> I haven't seen u-boot fail with usb power
[08:52:38] <woglinde_> mru not u-boot
[08:52:42] <woglinde_> the kernel
[08:52:46] <mru> exactly
[08:52:54] <mru> and it's not loading the kernel
[08:53:09] <mru> hence my conclusion that the kernel image is bad or mmc not initialised
[08:54:01] <kunguz> mru: I initialised the mmc now with mmc init command
[08:54:10] <kunguz> mru: now it can pass the verification
[08:54:25] <kunguz> mru: but the thing is now it keeps failing with a kernel panic
[08:54:44] <mru> that could be a power problem
[08:54:53] <mru> what is the exact message?
[08:58:40] <kunguz> mru[ 24.205627] Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt
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[08:59:44] <kunguz> mru: [ 24.205627] Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt
[08:59:56] <kunguz> mru: http://bugs.pardus.org.tr/attachment.cgi?id=5542
[09:00:17] <mru> No filesystem could mount root, tried: ext3
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[09:03:46] <kunguz> mru: sorry this is an old one
[09:03:56] <hitlin37> if git is firewalled ,on which port it is being blocked,how do i check it
[09:04:48] <kai> grep git /etc/services
[09:05:54] <kunguz> mru: http://pastebin.com/AKBS24eH
[09:06:00] <kunguz> mru: this one is brandnew
[09:06:23] <mru> something with musb
[09:06:29] <mru> I've seen this one before
[09:06:37] <mru> don't know what causes it
[09:06:46] <mru> my kernels never do it...
[09:07:06] <kunguz> mru: hmmm, this is a good info. I will use the keyword musb in my search then
[09:07:10] <kunguz> mru: thank you very much
[09:07:25] <mru> koen: do you know what this error is?
[09:08:38] <kunguz> One more quick question
[09:08:39] <kunguz> setenv bootargs 'console=tty0 console=ttyS2,115200n8 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=1 omapfb.mode="dvi:1024x768MR-16@60"'
[09:08:48] <kunguz> I use this to setup bootargs
[09:09:05] <kunguz> is there a way to change bootargs permanently, because I am doing this everytime
[09:09:10] <mru> replace rootdelay=1 with rootwait
[09:09:23] <mru> and you should be using a boot.scr file
[09:09:27] <mru> much easier to manage
[09:10:38] <kunguz> mru: boot.scr ?
[09:12:07] <kunguz> setenv bootcmd 'mmcinit; fatload mmc 0 80000000 uimage; bootm 80000000'
[09:12:16] <kunguz> what about this one? anything wrong with it?
[09:13:20] <thurbad> I think the default address for loading uimage is 80200000
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[09:19:29] <woglinde_> thurbad no
[09:20:04] <woglinde_> you can load at anyadress after 80000000 as long its not to big
[09:20:23] <mru> 80000000 is a bad idea
[09:20:25] <mru> u-boot lives there
[09:20:32] <mru> 80200000 should be fine
[09:20:43] <kunguz> can updating x-loader solve my issue?
[09:20:45] <woglinde_> mru h,
[09:20:49] <woglinde_> mru hm
[09:21:06] <mru> 80000000 is start of dram
[09:21:47] <mru> and u-boot sits at the start
[09:21:55] <woglinde_> I didnt had any problems loading the image there
[09:22:01] <woglinde_> but okay
[09:22:05] <mru> where the heck is your uboot then?
[09:22:40] <woglinde_> dont know at the moment
[09:24:43] <jl_> av500: to test gstreamer whether I need to install one x-window?
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[09:25:34] <av500> jl_: i know nothing about gstreamer
[09:25:53] <jl_> av500: ok, thx
[09:26:54] <kunguz> By fault, I erase xloader, how to install it again?
[09:27:10] <kunguz> I get no console from serial port
[09:27:10] <mru> don't
[09:27:20] <thurbad> mru if sdl is so bad, can you suggest a better graphical/audio framework for the Beagle?
[09:27:32] <mru> no framework is the best framework
[09:27:54] <thurbad> don't need a best.. just better would do :P
[09:28:10] <mru> then use a small one
[09:28:54] <kunguz> nand erase 0 80000
[09:29:02] <kunguz> I did this, now I have no console
[09:29:12] <mru> do you get a 40V message?
[09:29:22] <kunguz> nope
[09:29:35] <mru> if you hold the user button while resetting?
[09:29:53] <kunguz> mru: yes, I do now
[09:29:56] <thurbad> you should have3 a 40something message, that's the cpu initializing, or somesuch
[09:30:12] <mru> that's the rom loader probing the serial port
[09:30:27] <kunguz> mru: ok, how do I flash a new xloader?
[09:30:29] <thurbad> ah
[09:30:39] <mru> kunguz: don't
[09:30:46] <mru> put it on an sd card
[09:30:57] <mru> there are plenty of instructions online
[09:31:14] <thurbad> look up beagle recovery
[09:31:23] <kunguz> mru: I am sorry but I am a real beginner, please don't be angry at me. but how do I put it to a SD card
[09:31:33] <mru> follow the instructions
[09:32:34] <kunguz> mru: it would be very glad, if you can send me a link of one instruction
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[09:37:54] <kunguz> Guys, I am really stuck. I really don't know which keywords to use for finding such instruction
[09:38:13] <mru> kunguz: 10:31 < thurbad> look up beagle recovery
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[09:50:02] <koen> woglinde_: I haven't been able to pull today, the server must be broken again
[09:50:08] <woglinde_> yes
[09:50:11] <woglinde_> I try the mirror now
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[10:04:12] <woglinde_> koen a quickfix is add in siteconfig.bbclass list() around itertools.chain(d.getVar("BBPATH", True).split(":"), d.getVar("FILESPATH", True).split(":")))
[10:06:03] <woglinde_> 12:04 < woglinde_> koen a quickfix is add in siteconfig.bbclass list() around itertools.chain(d.getVar("BBPATH", True).split(":"), d.getVar("FILESPATH", True).split(":")))
[10:06:06] <woglinde_> args
[10:07:17] <woglinde_> hm ior not
[10:07:20] <woglinde_> args
[10:08:07] <woglinde_> puh its correct
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[10:08:13] <woglinde_> I looked in the wrong file
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[10:23:11] <Ralph__> can I install the OMAP35x graphics SDK on the bb?
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[10:29:47] <_koen_> Ralph__: opkg install libgles-omap3-dev
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[10:30:57] <Ralph__> can I download that from somewhere ... I don't have the board connected to the internet?
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[10:31:24] <_koen_> tick the box in narcissus
[10:31:57] <ddd> what is the main difference between kernel2.6.33 to support dspbridge and kernel2.6.32 to support dsplink? thank you
[10:32:17] <_koen_> bridge is supported?
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[10:32:45] <ddd> 2.6.33 seems support bridge
[10:32:45] <Ralph__> which one?
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[10:33:55] <Ralph__> I have all the powerVR's ... is any of them got the sdk?
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[10:41:05] <ddd> how much effort to be involved when switching a kernel supporting bridge to support dsplink? thx
[10:42:10] <_koen_> bitbake ti-dsplink-module
[10:42:11] <_koen_> done
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[10:43:45] <rsv_> hi, what is the purpose of the following addresses in the board files - phys_io, io_pg_offst, and what exactly they mean?
[10:43:54] <ddd> yeah, but i want to keep previous ones inside kernel, just want to make less modification and let it support dsplink,
[10:45:02] <Ralph__> koen, was that about bitbake ment for me?
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[10:45:33] <_koen_> Ralph__: no, for ddd
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[10:46:13] <ddd> i know
[10:47:41] <Ralph__> k, can u tell me what to tick on, so I can compile a program using the PowerVR drivers
[10:50:35] <_koen_> Ralph__: check the xbmc box in the development section, that will get you other usefull libs as well
[10:54:35] <Ralph__> so if I tick toolchain, xbmc and all the powerVR boxes I should have enough to complie a program using them drivers?
[10:55:43] <_koen_> more than enough
[10:56:09] <Ralph__> so say if I find the source for the evilskull I should be able to compile and run it?
[10:56:43] <_koen_> yes
[10:56:48] <_koen_> that's in the sdk, btw
[10:57:06] <Ralph__> cool, thanks
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[11:17:12] <kunguz> I prepared the mmc card as in http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleboardRevCValidationv2 but no luck I can't pass 40V
[11:17:27] <kunguz> What I only get is 40V from RS232 port
[11:17:51] <jacekowski> that seems to be little bit too high
[11:18:18] <jacekowski> ahhh
[11:18:20] <kunguz> jacekowski: can you explain little bit more?
[11:18:21] <mru> kunguz: please paste fdisk -l output of card
[11:18:25] <jacekowski> nvm
[11:18:32] <jacekowski> i was thinking that you were saying 40 Volts
[11:18:45] <mru> that is, fdisk -l /dev/sd<something>
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[11:19:56] <kunguz> mru: http://pastebin.com/fa3Bmirh
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[11:20:55] <mru> ah, it has a turkish partition table, you need an english one
[11:21:17] <kunguz> mru: so is it possible to have a english partition from a Turkish distro?
[11:21:23] <mru> that was a joke
[11:21:34] <kunguz> mru: ok :D
[11:21:35] <mru> of course it makes no difference
[11:21:39] <kunguz> mru: I felt for it :D
[11:22:34] <kunguz> mru: do I need to set some flag for the partition?
[11:23:39] <_koen_> I'd use the Xora's mkcard.sh script
[11:23:46] <_koen_> it's on the angstrom demo page for download
[11:24:12] <mru> wouldn't it be great if someone from TI could tell us what the _actual_ requirements are?
[11:24:53] <ddd> who knows that what is performance difference for the same code applied to CE dsplink and dspbridge?
[11:24:58] <kunguz> I am really stuck, my board is rev c3 and I need xloader back :(
[11:25:18] <mru> kunguz: use the script _koen_ suggested
[11:25:29] <kunguz> _koen_: do you have any link for it?
[11:27:06] <kunguz> one question, during the preparation of the card, do I have to put the files into a folder named as 'boot' ?
[11:27:11] <_koen_> I thought "angstrom demo page" was quite clear
[11:27:26] <_koen_> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
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[11:37:53] <kunguz> I solved it finally thanks to pserial
[11:37:59] <kunguz> thank you everyone for helping
[11:38:03] <woglinde> kunguz hehe
[11:38:12] <woglinde> psub would have worked too
[11:38:30] <kunguz> woglinde: yes, I should have known this before :D
[11:38:32] <woglinde> but what you did with pserial?
[11:38:48] <woglinde> loading xload?
[11:39:17] <kunguz> xload and uboot
[11:39:39] <woglinde> hm how did you load u-boot?
[11:39:49] <woglinde> or did it x-loader
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[11:45:54] <woglinde> args
[11:46:09] <woglinde> seems I had to read the README more probaly
[11:47:42] <woglinde> uhm what the hell is pserial doing other than pusb
[11:47:50] <woglinde> args
[11:47:56] <woglinde> I should go to sleep again
[11:49:14] <av500> same
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[11:55:20] <woglinde> bye
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[11:56:04] <koen> I could do with a siesta as well
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[11:57:23] <koen> heh
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[12:23:00] <hitlin37> where can i find kernel source ,the one used in angstrom
[12:23:15] <_koen_> check the recipe
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[12:24:33] <hitlin37> ?
[12:26:22] <kunguz> What do you guys use as distro in beagleboard?
[12:27:41] <hitlin37> kernel source for both sakoman and angstrom are same?
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[12:28:32] <koen> woglinde: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBT7qSiCLCE
[12:28:43] <_koen_> hitlin37: no, check the recipe
[12:28:57] <_koen_> kunguz: if you want speed and integration, angstrom is your best bet
[12:29:06] <kunguz> _koen_: thanks
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[12:31:44] <hitlin37> hmmm
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[12:46:31] <Crofton> someone needs to shoot the people responsible for att's cell network
[12:48:15] <av500> Crofton: you are holding it wrong!!
[12:48:46] * _koen_ is on t-mobile, not a lot better by the looks of it
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[12:51:50] <Crofton> no, this is nexus one
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[12:52:24] <av500> Crofton: did u not listen to sjobs? everybody is holding it wrong!
[12:57:08] <DaveDavenport> yes. all hail steve
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[12:59:47] <alf__> Hi all! Are the sgx 3D libraries shipped with angstrom different than the ones you can get from the TI site?
[13:00:47] <alf__> I am trying to run Ubuntu on BB XM and can get 3D acceleration with the angstrom ones but not the TI ones.
[13:03:25] <rcn-ee> alf__, how are you enabling the 3D acceleration in Ubuntu (wiki guide?)
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[13:06:19] <alf__> rcn-ee: No, because the guide, scripts etc don't include the ES5.0 libs. I am using an altered startup script.
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[13:07:41] <rcn-ee> so your using my script... updated script here: http://pastebin.com/Pf0Qy6G5 (problems with my xm, waiting for someone to confirm it works..)
[13:10:35] <rcn-ee> alf__, ping me if it does/n't work at my gmail, heading to work..
[13:10:54] <alf__> rcn-ee: Thanks, I'll try it!
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[13:40:08] <kunguz> how to open GUI in angstorm
[13:40:28] <kunguz> ?
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[14:45:38] <rsv> hello, could anyone tell me what the addresses assigned to phys_io and .io_pg_offst in the board files do?
[14:47:05] <Broken> IO Page Offset, and Physical IO?
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[14:47:15] <rsv> yes in the board files
[14:48:03] <Broken> one appears to set the IO Page Offset (an index) and one appears to be a handle for Physical IO
[14:48:08] <Broken> I could be wrong
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[14:49:24] <Broken> maybe even a PHY io port or handle...
[14:49:51] <av500> reading the source might reveal the answer too...
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[14:50:13] <Broken> 9 times of 10, the names are very descriptive, as to the function :)
[14:50:38] <Broken> if at first you dont understand, read the source...
[14:51:01] <Broken> hi av500
[14:51:05] <Broken> been awahile
[14:51:21] <Broken> s/awahile/awhile
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[14:51:54] <av500> Brokie?
[14:51:59] <Broken> yep
[14:52:14] <av500> hacked any major satelite network in the meantime?
[14:52:23] <Broken> no... no longer allowed
[14:52:28] <av500> :)
[14:52:40] <Broken> 45K units fixed tho
[14:52:57] <Broken> the ones I blew up the bootloader... via an update...
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[14:53:13] <Broken> made a nice jtag app, that restored bootloader...
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[14:53:35] <screwgoth> Hi, can someone help me in understanding what the you-boot bootargs arguments "vram:2M,vram:4M" mean ?
[14:53:46] <av500> video memory for the framebuffers
[14:54:10] <Broken> one for native, if I remember right, and one for X
[14:54:53] <rsv> probably 2M for fb0 and 4M for fb1
[14:54:58] <screwgoth> ahh ....
[14:54:59] <Broken> yep
[14:55:41] <screwgoth> so that's nothing to do with why I see only "60M" memory when I do free for the following arguments "mem=80M video=omapfb:vram:2M,vram:4M"
[14:55:49] <av500> no
[14:55:51] <av500> yes
[14:56:14] <Broken> what board version?
[14:56:25] <av500> well, you started with 80M, then use some for the kernel and vram
[14:56:27] <av500> so 60 makes sense
[14:57:12] <Broken> appears you set some memory aside for DSP?
[14:57:29] <rsv> i guess that happens run time
[14:57:31] <av500> yes, mem=80
[14:57:51] <Broken> either 48MB, or...
[14:58:35] <Broken> yay... I got one.... WIST CWAP>>>>
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[15:04:29] <rsv> phyio and io_pg_offst point to the main() in the kernel source, dont know what they do
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[15:10:29] <Ralph__> where can I find PVRShell.h & OGLESTools.h?
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[15:10:52] <RobotGuy> I got my BeagleBoard all setup for WiFi b/g last night. It boots up and gets right onto my WiFi network. :)
[15:12:00] <screwgoth> Wait .... the TI Codec Engine page says that you the 80M option is used so that 48M can be used for cmem, dsplink, etc.
[15:12:34] <screwgoth> But when I configure mem=80M , the total mem shown by "free" is 60M and available is about 3M
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[15:13:17] <screwgoth> Broken: Yes. I'm trying to set memory aside for cmem
[15:13:34] <av500> screwgoth: they sold you a fake with less memory...
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[15:15:48] <screwgoth> av500: ROFLOL
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[15:21:09] <Ralph__> anyone know where to find the PVRShell.h & OGLESTools.h? I have installed a narcissus image with all the PVR's & XBMC
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[15:28:57] <javaJake> RobotGuy: nice :)
[15:29:01] <javaJake> RobotGuy: usb wifi dongle?
[15:29:47] <screwgoth> RobotGuy: Which dongle is it ? Did it work out-of-the-box or did you have to install any drivers on it /
[15:30:19] <RobotGuy> javaJake: LinkSys WUSB54GC USB dongle.
[15:30:31] <RobotGuy> WiFi b/g
[15:30:38] <javaJake> Right, right.
[15:31:03] <RobotGuy> screwgoth: I believe it works right out of the box.
[15:31:18] <screwgoth> RobotGuy: Niiice !
[15:31:24] <javaJake> Yes, it should. Drivers were written for it a year or more ago.
[15:31:31] <RobotGuy> Beagle boots right up on my WLAN now. :)
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[15:32:58] <RobotGuy> I've got one of those cool little hubs from Special Computing connected to my Beagle, and the dongle is connected to the hub. Power is currently from a 5V wall wart connected to the Beagle.
[15:33:24] <woglinde> robotguy yes normal setup
[15:34:11] <RobotGuy> woglinde: This setup is just for tinkering and testing. Final power will come from a battery on my robot.
[15:34:34] <woglinde> ah okay so you are building a real robot withit
[15:34:37] <woglinde> yes nice
[15:34:43] <emeb> RobotGuy: which USB port are you using (EHCI or MUSB)?
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[15:34:57] <RobotGuy> woglinde: Yes, I am.
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[15:35:14] <b7500af1> Crofton, you said you had some of those RTC batteries sittin' around.. think I could buy one?
[15:35:27] <Crofton> heh
[15:35:40] <Crofton> how much are they?
[15:35:50] <b7500af1> 5$ at dk.. i think.
[15:35:58] <Crofton> ok
[15:36:02] <Crofton> when do you need ut
[15:36:08] <Crofton> and you know how to install?
[15:36:11] <b7500af1> http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts/1454-battery-lith-coin-3v-12-5mm-vert-vl-1220-vcn.html
[15:36:19] <b7500af1> i read the hw man for the bb.. so I've got an idea.
[15:36:52] <b7500af1> I don't have an urgent need for it.. but the bb gives me grief when I'm trying to compile gnuradio without it.
[15:37:10] <RobotGuy> emeb: Not sure which designation applies to this connector (the type A USB).
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[15:37:39] <emeb> RobotGuy: That's the EHCI port - the mini connector is MUSB / OTG
[15:37:59] <RobotGuy> emeb: OK. I learned something new. :)
[15:39:07] <RobotGuy> Now my robot will be able to be completely untethered. :)
[15:39:35] <Crofton> yeah
[15:39:44] <Crofton> I'll bring it by next time I am that way
[15:39:48] <RobotGuy> I still need to add XBee wireless, but I need to get a Trainer Board before I can do that.
[15:39:56] <Crofton> we are driving for lunch due to rain
[15:40:06] <RobotGuy> Crofton: Greets. :D
[15:40:13] <Crofton> hi
[15:40:33] <RobotGuy> Now I am anxious to get a -xM board. :)
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[15:42:51] <b7500af1> Crofton, thanks.. Starting thursday, I won't be around for a week. So maybe in a couple weeks.
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[15:51:49] <Ralph__> can anyone help me get started with powerVR on the bb
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[16:21:16] <Ralph__> what's ... Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt
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[16:21:52] <woglinde> Ralph__ do you see musb?
[16:22:40] <Guest39618> hi, what's silicon revision of beagleboard Rev C4?
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[16:24:17] <Ralph__> ye ... 114.040100] [<c033df94>] (musb_interrupt+0x9f8/0xbb8) from [<c033e1b8>] (gen
[16:25:06] <RobotGuy> This is cool. My beagle will boot Android 2.1 from NAND if I don't have an SD card in the slot. Otherwise it boots off the SD card. :)
[16:25:53] <woglinde> Ralph__ yes its known
[16:25:57] <sjhill> RobotGuy: that's U-Boot doing that
[16:26:09] <RobotGuy> sjhill: It's still cool. :)
[16:26:19] <Guest39618> how can i find the silicon revision of beagleboard Rev C4?
[16:26:25] <emeb> RobotGuy: when did you install Android 2.1?
[16:26:30] <woglinde> ralph we have a special kernel where g_ether is build in
[16:26:36] <mru> Guest39618: it's ES2.1
[16:26:44] <RobotGuy> emeb: A couple days ago.
[16:27:00] <emeb> RobotGuy: how well does it work?
[16:27:27] <woglinde> ralph try this kernel
[16:27:28] <woglinde> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/~koen/uImage-2.6.32-r83%2Bgitra6bad4464f985fdd3bed72e1b82dcbfc004d7869-beagleboard.multi-config-cpuidle-gether.bin
[16:27:41] <RobotGuy> emeb: Seems to work fine. Not much I can do with Android right now though. I need to see if it will recognize my WiFi dongle.
[16:27:57] <Ralph__> what's in it?
[16:28:06] <emeb> RobotGuy: got a link to where you found instructions for that install?
[16:28:12] <Guest39618> mru:thanks
[16:28:15] <woglinde> ralph g_ether is build in so musb dont crashes
[16:28:15] <RobotGuy> It just has the very basic apps.
[16:28:32] * emeb collects links...
[16:28:48] <RobotGuy> emeb: Google 0xdroid. I have 0xdroid Eclair (Android 2.1) installed.
[16:28:53] <woglinde> ralph only problem is you can not use serial console or usb masstorage
[16:29:03] <woglinde> over the miniusb connection
[16:29:15] <woglinde> but powerup via miniusb will not crash
[16:29:22] <emeb> RobotGuy: thanks
[16:29:29] <RobotGuy> emeb: Glad to help.
[16:29:37] <Ralph__> Oh ok
[16:30:58] <RobotGuy> I have a working OE installed now, thanks to koen's instructions, but don't have enough disk space to do any builds. That's even after I moved temp to another partition.
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[16:35:16] <woglinde> robotguy git server is down at the moment anyway
[16:35:43] <woglinde> and the mirror dont have the fix for a siteconfig problem
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[16:36:05] <RobotGuy> woglinde: Bummer. I'm not sure this was directed to the right person.
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[16:49:49] <RobotGuy> GitHub is being contrary today.
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[16:53:27] <sjhill> is anyone good with the clocks in OMAP?
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[16:53:45] <sjhill> i'm having a heck of a time changing rates and getting them to stick
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[17:16:11] <prpplague> koen: ping
[17:16:31] <RobotGuy> woglinde: Ahhhh, the whole thing is down?
[17:16:44] <woglinde> robotguy yes
[17:16:50] <woglinde> seems so
[17:16:52] <RobotGuy> Is Gitorus any better?
[17:17:04] <woglinde> there some isusses with hardisk controller before
[17:17:12] <woglinde> but the controller was changed
[17:17:13] <RobotGuy> Bummer.
[17:17:25] <woglinde> but seems there are now other problems too
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[17:18:48] <RobotGuy> woglinde: Do you know when it will be back up? Any ETA?
[17:19:01] <RobotGuy> I've always liked GitHub.
[17:19:12] <RobotGuy> Easy to use and work with. :)
[17:19:55] <woglinde> there is work on it right now
[17:20:54] <RobotGuy> No doubt. Maybe I will take a look at Google Code.
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[17:22:56] <RobotGuy> Durn, Google Code doesn't use Git.
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[17:24:03] <koen> prpplague: pong
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[17:40:15] <kunguz> I flashed angstorm to a SD-CARD. But it stops booting after the line I2C: ready
[17:40:49] <kunguz> This happens whenever I boot from angstorm sd card
[17:41:51] <b7500af1> kunguz, I think that's an issue with the version of x-loader to uboot.
[17:42:22] <b7500af1> kunguz, newer x-loader/MLO using an older uboot gives that error.
[17:42:29] <kunguz> I am using 1.4.2, is there a newer version?
[17:43:02] <b7500af1> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
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[17:48:48] <djlewis> gm
[17:49:07] <mru> morning
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[17:50:32] * djlewis is building a system with a asus rampage III Extreme, Intel I7 980x with pc3-12800 ram
[17:51:01] <kunguz> b7500af1: thank you that solves the problem
[17:52:25] <mru> djlewis: nice
[17:53:39] <djlewis> not for me :(
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[17:56:05] <emeb> gm djlewis
[17:58:28] <djlewis> yo, emeb :)
[17:59:05] * emeb is considering a mobo/cpu/ram upgrade
[17:59:10] <djlewis> i'm trying out KVirc v4 for grins.
[17:59:52] <emeb> checked extremetech's $200 linux review & it benchmarks 2x faster than my current machine. :(
[18:00:12] <djlewis> my usual wkstn didnt boot after norton scanned a external usb drive, no the drive is not connected.
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[18:00:49] <emeb> bad norton!
[18:01:16] <djlewis> good news is, my expensive glass made it to the optics craftsman on Oregon.
[18:01:24] <djlewis> in
[18:01:32] <emeb> safe & sound
[18:01:47] <emeb> getting it polished/ground/coated?
[18:01:56] <mru> emeb: no, not sound, light
[18:02:00] <mru> sound is acoustics
[18:02:14] <emeb> ahhhh. you funny man :)
[18:02:29] <b7500af1> how big is the lens
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[18:05:49] <koen> there, xM safely in a special computing xM case
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[18:06:20] <mru> encase it all you want, does the ram work?
[18:06:33] <koen> afaict, yes
[18:06:50] <koen> need to cut a hole for the camera, though
[18:07:00] <koen> but the price was right
[18:07:12] <koen> 3 beaglecoasters for 1 xm case and 1 Cx case
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[18:15:47] <ds2> morning
[18:15:53] <koen> ds2: morning
[18:16:06] <woglinde> koen what changed in the dsplink?
[18:16:34] <koen> woglinde: in what way?
[18:16:48] <koen> afaik the 1.6 series is just bugfixes and new platforms
[18:16:48] <woglinde> hm you checked in latest version
[18:16:53] <RobotGuy> koen: Thanks to your instructions, I have a working OE setup now. :) I did have to move the location of temp though. Unfortunately, I don't have enough disk space for a full build. :(
[18:17:02] <koen> woglinde: bugfixes
[18:17:06] <_av500_> RobotGuy: buy new disk
[18:17:12] <woglinde> okay
[18:17:21] <koen> woglinde: I'm going to update that stuff to more recent versions this week
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[18:17:30] <RobotGuy> av500: This is a laptop, and it only has a 100 GB disk in a dual boot setup.
[18:17:39] * koen is nearly done with preparing stuff for FAEs and documenting
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[18:18:21] <ds2> 100G? perfect, that'd good for about 1-2 OE builds ;)
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[18:19:12] <koen> for a single machine build 32GB is plenty
[18:20:19] <woglinde> koen so newer xdc-tools too
[18:20:42] <_av500_> woglinde: what are you actually doing?
[18:20:52] <woglinde> av500 nothing
[18:20:58] <_av500_> ah right
[18:21:00] <woglinde> but I should to work on something
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[18:32:36] <mshooshtari> I'm looking at git.openpandora.org for the document on OMAP2/3 Display Subsystem
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[18:32:55] <koen> why not read the trm?
[18:33:34] <mshooshtari> trm?
[18:34:13] <mshooshtari> It talks about sysfs mainly for testing. What's the correct way to deal with DSS2?
[18:34:38] <mshooshtari> TI Reference Manual?
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[18:37:39] <mshooshtari> technical..
[18:37:46] <mshooshtari> nice, going to read the DSS chapter
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[18:42:58] <mshooshtari> this is the IRC room for android?
[18:43:20] <mshooshtari> android on beagleboard that is.
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[18:45:01] <koen> sort off
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[18:45:18] <koen> not many people using android here, but they are hiding here
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[18:52:40] <mshooshtari> I'm trying to manipulate DSS2 at a higher level, like with eclipse on the virtual android device.
[18:53:00] <mshooshtari> or even on the physical device
[18:53:23] <mshooshtari> I'm just not sure how to get started. If there is an android library already that would help.
[18:53:26] <_av500_> ?
[18:53:42] <mshooshtari> I want to output to HDMI on the droid x
[18:53:55] <_av500_> and the droid cannot do that?
[18:54:18] <koen> it rEFUSEs to do so
[18:54:21] <mshooshtari> I get some errors I can't decipher, google has no results.
[18:54:47] <mshooshtari> I need some com.motorola library I think.
[18:55:01] <_av500_> wht does the droid do with hdmi?
[18:55:07] <_av500_> droid x
[18:55:14] <koen> there's no 'echo' in android?
[18:57:39] <emeb> Andriod... android... android... ndroi... ndro... dro...
[19:00:27] <mshooshtari> I'm back, I was reading more on the moto forums
[19:00:40] <mshooshtari> the droid x has HDMI output, it also has an OMAP3 with DSS2
[19:00:50] <_av500_> wht does the droid do with hdmi?
[19:02:07] <mshooshtari> it has HDMI out
[19:02:22] <mshooshtari> it currently displays items from the gallery
[19:02:26] <mshooshtari> video and images
[19:02:36] <mshooshtari> motorola has a private api they use to do this
[19:02:53] <mshooshtari> I wanted to know if there was a public android API for OMAP3 DSS2
[19:03:20] <mshooshtari> something other than echo "0" > $/sys/devices/platform/omapdss/overlay0
[19:03:26] <ds2> please contact motorola for support :D
[19:03:42] <_av500_> mshooshtari: I doubt that
[19:03:55] <_av500_> stock android knows nothing about a 2nd screen
[19:04:04] <mshooshtari> so for the beagle devices running android how do you manage that?
[19:04:11] <_av500_> manage what?
[19:04:13] <mshooshtari> it does know, there is a display0 and display1
[19:04:16] <_av500_> they only run on hdmi
[19:04:31] <_av500_> devices that switch android gui between lcd and hdmi are rare
[19:04:35] <_av500_> I know only 1
[19:04:49] <mshooshtari> is it open source?
[19:05:20] <_av500_> :)
[19:05:22] <_av500_> no
[19:05:28] <_av500_> its evil closed source :)
[19:05:34] <_av500_> at least that part
[19:05:40] <mshooshtari> I bet
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[19:09:54] <woglinde> hm opengl 4.1
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[19:11:09] <mshooshtari> jkridner is so very happy that DSS2 works with his HDTV.
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[19:12:35] <mshooshtari> Hello katie
[19:14:26] <emeb> mshooshtari: does the droidx blank the LCD while driving HDMI?
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[19:14:41] <_av500_> emeb: prolly not
[19:14:59] <ds2> most likely it is using the other port
[19:15:02] <_av500_> dsi
[19:15:13] <emeb> ah
[19:15:20] <ds2> _av500_: know off hand what does the EVM uses on their DVI connector?
[19:15:27] <_av500_> ?
[19:15:28] * emeb doesn't pay much attention to the video stuff yet
[19:15:59] <ds2> _av500_: i.e. how is the DVI connector on the EVM wired up; I know it is different from the Beagle
[19:16:19] <_av500_> dont think much dofferent
[19:16:22] <_av500_> i
[19:17:34] <koen> pretty much the same AIUI
[19:17:42] <koen> you can't drive both
[19:17:55] <mshooshtari> emeb yes
[19:17:57] <mshooshtari> it fades out
[19:18:01] <mru> doesn't it use a different gpio to control the power?
[19:18:02] <_av500_> phones like dsi for lcd
[19:18:07] <ds2> one of the eval boards I think lets you drive both
[19:18:13] <_av500_> so parallel is free for hdmi
[19:18:14] <mshooshtari> Although that's when I do it
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[19:18:38] <mshooshtari> when moto does it it shows a video control on lcd, and the image on hdtv
[19:18:45] <mshooshtari> those are the names for the displays
[19:18:52] <mshooshtari> lcd = display0 hdtv=display1
[19:19:10] <mshooshtari> I'm printing the latest kernel patch info
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[19:19:32] <_av500_> mshooshtari: that is all stock dss2, you need the userspace for android
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[19:19:53] <_av500_> mshooshtari: but what are you after? hdmi works, no?
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[19:20:04] <_av500_> and you cant reflash the x anyway, no?
[19:20:33] <emeb> yeah - doesn't it have some sort of signing & refuses to boot w/o a match?
[19:20:40] <mshooshtari> _av500_: I would like to mirror the lcd on hdtv, if that's not possible, have it output the display to hdtv only.
[19:21:10] <_av500_> mshooshtari: then you need to go deep into the guts of it
[19:21:12] <mshooshtari> I get underflow errors when I have tried, as well as an error I couldn't find on google.
[19:21:24] <_av500_> which one?
[19:21:35] <mshooshtari> You had to ask when I didn't have it up.
[19:21:50] <_av500_> you came unprepared?
[19:22:11] <mshooshtari> _av500_: I was looking for more information before I tried again, I've learned not to ask for my solution on a silver platter.
[19:22:18] <mshooshtari> I'm flattered though that your willing to help me troubleshoot.
[19:25:59] <_av500_> i fear there is little you can do
[19:26:06] <_av500_> if you cant roll your own rom
[19:26:35] <_av500_> i doubt you can switch dss2 to hdmi without telling android
[19:26:47] <mshooshtari> droid x has only one fb
[19:26:53] <_av500_> yes
[19:27:05] <_av500_> going to hdmi changes the fb resolution
[19:27:29] <_av500_> so u need to reset surfaceflinger et al
[19:28:05] <mshooshtari> _av500 that's where I think I run into trouble. the documentation shows a command fbset, which is not present
[19:29:02] <mshooshtari> although the documentation says the overlay can be smaller than the framebuffer
[19:29:06] <koen> install it or use the sysfs interface
[19:29:06] <_av500_> yes
[19:29:11] <_av500_> koen: lol
[19:29:24] <koen> _av500_: android is open, no?
[19:29:28] <_av500_> totally
[19:29:38] <mshooshtari> the device is rooted, android is open.
[19:29:39] <_av500_> unless it r-efuse-s
[19:29:39] <koen> you can remove preinstalled crapware, no?
[19:29:52] <mshooshtari> I have removed yes
[19:30:00] <woglinde_> koen whats the dbus-glib version in angstroem?
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[19:30:34] <_av500_> mshooshtari: hmm, you could setu hdmi and then brute force copy the lcd content to the hdmi overlay :)
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[19:30:54] <_av500_> aka mirror mode
[19:32:28] <mshooshtari> the timings show me at 1280x720 when I check display1 so I am skipping the cat and cut portion, things just aren't present on the phone yet. I really need to rw the /system and link them to busybox
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[19:33:04] <mshooshtari> I am going to attempt the Switch from LCD to DVI, but will modify sligtly to switch to hdmi
[19:33:38] <koen> woglinde_: http://pastebin.com/UrZ5HYD3
[19:37:06] <woglinde_> koen do you know any reason why native is at 0.76?
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[19:39:26] <koen> woglinde_: because I didn't add a newer native yet
[19:39:46] <woglinde_> introspect is disabled anyway?
[19:39:59] <woglinde_> so I wonder why it needs native
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[19:40:13] <woglinde_> koen I started to convert it to BBCLASSEXTENDED
[19:40:30] <koen> native is needed for various tools
[19:40:34] <koen> not only introspection
[19:40:59] <koen> introspection requires running binaries, so we can only turn that on if we build everything natively as well
[19:41:19] <woglinde_> yes running dbus
[19:41:23] <woglinde_> saw this
[19:42:08] <woglinde_> should I check it in our do want to comment the patch?
[19:42:31] <koen> check it in, we can fix any bugs later
[19:43:20] <mshooshtari> okay back, an update unrooted my phone, I'm back in business though
[19:45:28] <mshooshtari> you would think this would be as easy as changing the last step, taking the manager and sending to display1
[19:46:23] <RobotGuy> mshooshtari: Google 0xdroid - I have 0xdroid Eclair (Android 2.1) installed on my beagleboard.
[19:49:15] <mshooshtari> nice
[19:49:20] <mshooshtari> those sound like fun devices
[19:50:39] <mshooshtari> What is the alternative to useing fbset?
[19:50:51] <_av500_> sysfs
[19:50:52] <mru> not using it
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[19:52:40] <mshooshtari> The FB portionof the instructions do not include instructions for setting resolution
[19:53:08] <mshooshtari> I have (mirror, rotate, rotate_type,overlays,phys_addr,virt_addr,size)
[19:53:31] <mru> why does everybody insist on getting elaborate instructions for _exactly_ what they want to do?
[19:53:53] <koen> because google is down
[19:53:58] <_av500_> lycos?
[19:54:01] <woglinde_> mshooshtari read fb dokumentation in kernel
[19:54:03] <mru> people who think like that should use apple products
[19:54:10] <mru> apple stuff can only be used in one way
[19:54:11] * koen looks around
[19:54:23] <koen> powerbook, check, iphone check
[19:54:35] * _av500_ slaps koen with a multitouchpad
[19:54:39] <koen> :)
[19:55:12] <mshooshtari> I just believe the DSS instructions should tell you all the arguments
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[19:56:22] <mshooshtari> It's like if ls only said it had -d
[19:56:38] <mshooshtari> you would be forced to look at the source code for ls and interpret how the args are handled.
[19:57:22] <_av500_> ls has args?
[19:57:32] * _av500_ looks for the source code
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[19:58:05] <mshooshtari> I'm greatfull for documentation, but when you can't find any other documentation you ask people, I've been asking for where to find additional documentation, not to write me an DSS2 for dummies.
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[19:59:21] <_av500_> you are looking at the linux dss docs?
[19:59:26] <mshooshtari> yes
[19:59:45] <mshooshtari> There is a kernel patch with instructions
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[19:59:54] <_av500_> patch?
[19:59:57] <_av500_> its in mainline
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[20:01:23] * mru thinks of gcc inline asm
[20:01:51] <mshooshtari> http://gitorious.org/linux-omap-dss2/linux/blobs/master/Documentation/arm/OMAP/DSS
[20:01:58] <_av500_> mshooshtari: btw, dss2 is only part of the equation, there is also the framebuffer itself
[20:02:07] <_av500_> fb isa user of dss2
[20:02:10] <_av500_> is a
[20:02:26] <_av500_> and fbset acts on the framebuffer iirc
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[20:04:40] <_av500_> mshooshtari: in sysfs there should be some omapfb entries, as well as omapdss ones
[20:05:00] <mshooshtari> http://gitorious.org/linux-omap-dss2/linux/blobs/master/Documentation/fb/framebuffer.txt
[20:05:53] <_av500_> doesnt say much
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[20:11:17] <mshooshtari> I see size and virtual size
[20:11:17] <mshooshtari> size is an integer is this w * h ?
[20:11:17] <mru> I see virtual sizes...
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[20:13:11] <mshooshtari> that part makes sence
[20:13:41] <mshooshtari> it's the fbset -fb with arguements xres, yres, vxres, and vyres
[20:13:53] <mshooshtari> the virtual size takes care of the vxres and vyres
[20:14:32] <_av500_> yes
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[20:17:28] <mshooshtari> the size is likely a quantity of pixels arranged according to the vxrex X vyres
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[20:20:38] <ssvb> mru: one more fun gcc 4.5 bug: http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=45094
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[20:32:52] <djlewis__> argh, i cant turn off joins/quits in pidgin ...
[20:32:53] <djlewis__> so now using web based irc
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[20:45:48] <cwillu_at_work> djlewis__, xchat?
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[20:46:55] <harbaum_> MeeGo handset UX runs on beagleboard XM :-)
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[20:48:22] <RobotGuy> harbaum_: Cool!
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[20:49:28] <koen> UX being more than TWM nowadays?
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[20:50:14] <woglinde_> hm next is ZTO
[20:50:17] <woglinde_> haha
[20:51:14] <harbaum_> I am really waiting for something nice and fingerfriendly for my 800x480 hdmi touchscreen. twm is really that
[20:52:09] <RobotGuy> Thanks to folks on another network, I discovered some interesting Android based tablet type devices - inexpensive too.
[20:52:29] <RobotGuy> I'd much rather use a BeagleBoard though.
[20:52:39] <_av500_> RobotGuy: which one?
[20:53:02] <RobotGuy> av500: I'm going to put Beagle-xM boards on my robots.
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[20:53:33] <RobotGuy> Also going to use one for my wireless robot controller.
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[20:54:23] <_av500_> no, which other android tablets?
[20:55:16] <RobotGuy> av500: http://www.junauza.com/2010/07/affordable-android-powered-ipad-like.html
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[20:56:01] <RobotGuy> av500: Not sure what kind of quality they are though.
[20:56:44] <_av500_> yeah, know these
[20:56:58] <_av500_> basically 2 base designs, the via and the rk2808 chipsets
[20:57:07] <_av500_> both are hyperclocked arm9s
[20:57:08] <RobotGuy> Ahhhhh.
[20:57:22] <_av500_> sw should be similar on all of them
[20:57:25] <RobotGuy> I'll stick with Beagle.
[20:58:17] <RobotGuy> The Beagle-xM is perfect for my robots too. :)
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[21:06:37] <koen> mr blurrycam strikes again: http://www.flickr.com/photos/koenkooi/4835666190/
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[21:10:35] <_av500_> ah, hence the dremel
[21:12:34] <koen> among other things, yes
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[21:16:05] <djlewis__> cwillu_at_work: yep, I use that on my linux boxes
[21:18:53] <_av500_> gm djlewis__
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[22:08:59] <djlewis__> yo _av500_
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[22:10:11] <djlewis__> acrylic or lexan takes patience ....
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[23:27:53] <rafa_fau> Hello, I am trying to use clutter and gst under Angstrom distro
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[23:28:49] <rafa_fau> Can anyone tell what is the last version of clutter-gst that works?
[23:29:50] <rafa_fau> I am using clutter-1.0 and clutter-gst-0.8 and I getting some errors
[23:30:29] <rafa_fau> I noticed there is a new version clutter-gst-1.0 released
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