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IRC Log for 2010-09-01

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  4. [00:02:30] <hitlin37> can unaligned access slows the whole application,if it involves lot of AV data
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  20. [00:37:04] <mru> hitlin37: unaligned accesses should be avoided when possible
  21. [00:37:46] <mru> they are however faster than aligned access and manual shifting
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  28. [00:45:43] <hitlin37> http://www.alexonlinux.com/aligned-vs-unaligned-memory-access
  29. [00:47:35] <hitlin37> i read this article but i 've not tested anything lik this myself.
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  31. [00:49:24] <hitlin37> but it may b slow only when address is at cache boundary
  32. [00:51:06] <djlewis> emeb: getting clean data off the lunchbox yet?
  33. [00:53:06] <hitlin37> by the way, i was not able to do wid VSTM.S8 r2! {D0[0]D0[2]D0[4]D0[6]},what i did finally wid VST1 D0[0] [r2]! and .... so on
  34. [00:53:25] <hitlin37> i was trying to store a single byte
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  36. [00:54:55] <hitlin37> and VSTM is storing 2 bytes at a time,does VSTM has this limitation with not less than 16 bits of operation or did i implemented it wrongly
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  65. [02:21:55] <major> there is really no INT line up through the expansion port?
  66. [02:34:46] <Crofton> you should be able to use the gpios as interrupts
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  68. [02:38:43] <ds2> there is the super super super NMI line on there
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  77. [02:46:42] <major> not certain that will fit the bill for the I2C
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  82. [03:13:07] <major> ahh, I can snag GPIO's 130 and 156 I think
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  88. [03:58:04] <emeb> djlewis: haven't gotten any further on the lunchpud, but haven't been trying either...
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  93. [04:06:09] <ds2> those things looks to be constipated
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  108. [05:11:42] <_av500_> not enough sleep
  109. [05:12:03] <tomba> av500: yep?
  110. [05:16:00] <ds2> hey tomba
  111. [05:16:38] <tomba> hi
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  113. [05:18:08] <ds2> how goes the displays?
  114. [05:19:14] <tomba> well, I'm 99% busy with nokia's display stuff, too little time for the non-nokia stuff =/
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  116. [05:19:48] <tomba> I think DSS2 is not even working properly on very latest kernels, but I haven't had time to look at it
  117. [05:19:48] <ds2> hints of the future? :D
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  122. [05:37:12] <_av500_> tomba: i have some patches for you :)
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  124. [05:37:40] <tomba> ok. they better be good! just send them =)
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  126. [05:46:13] <ds2> tomba: who, if any, is accepting LCD panel patches?
  127. [05:52:14] <tomba> ds2: I am, who else =). but I'm not too happy to accept new LCD drivers, until someone makes a generic driver which would work for all of these simple LCDs.
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  130. [06:01:09] <ds2> tomba: what do you have in mind? The panel files are pretty bare bones right now as is
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  133. [06:17:20] <tomba> ds2: an panel driver which could be used for all those normal panels. with configurations for each supported LCD.
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  137. [06:30:05] <ds2> something that would take all the config from the platform data, for example?
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  141. [06:39:04] <tomba> ds2: no, the panel file would contain a table, panel name as the key, and the panel configuration as the data. then you could just define the panel name in platform data, and it would use the proper configs
  142. [06:45:08] <ds2> tomba: ah, that don't seem too hard to do
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  157. [07:37:52] <tomba> ds2: well, there are some details that need to be thought through, but yes, it should be relatively simple
  158. [07:38:26] <av500> tomba: tmlind/linux-omap-2.6.git is the right one to base dss patches on?
  159. [07:39:33] <tomba> no, either Linus' tree or my tree in gitorious
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  161. [07:40:54] <av500> k
  162. [07:41:01] <av500> right, its mainline, me stupid
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  197. [09:36:31] <hitlin37> Is it possible to install angstrom on ARM versatile board cortex a9
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  199. [09:51:21] <mru> I suppose so
  200. [09:52:58] <av500> if you can root it
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  208. [10:18:56] <hitlin37> they provide board with documentation to install debian linux.but it seems to b too slow,looks almost like BB/angstrom
  209. [10:19:26] <hitlin37> even though it has four cores
  210. [10:21:11] <raster> w2hat soc is that?
  211. [10:22:02] <hitlin37> NEC fpga
  212. [10:22:09] <raster> fpga?
  213. [10:22:10] <raster> not arm?
  214. [10:22:31] <raster> or its got an arm + fpga together on a single soc?
  215. [10:23:02] <hitlin37> only arm sells it but main chip on daughter board is frm NEC
  216. [10:23:51] <raster> hrmmm
  217. [10:23:56] <raster> dont know it at all
  218. [10:28:19] <hitlin37> http://www.arm.com/products/tools/versatile-express.php
  219. [10:28:22] <hitlin37> this one
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  221. [10:31:54] <jacekowski> ehhhh
  222. [10:32:28] <av500> raster: its the arm eval platform
  223. [10:32:31] <jacekowski> i2c on my bb seems to be not working
  224. [10:32:37] <av500> usually they run very slow
  225. [10:33:13] <jacekowski> i'm not seeing anything when i do i2c probe
  226. [10:33:16] <hitlin37> may i ask why its slow?
  227. [10:33:21] <av500> 400mhz
  228. [10:33:37] <av500> because it uses a super high speed fpga to simulate the cpu
  229. [10:33:44] <av500> or an asic
  230. [10:33:53] <jacekowski> well, asic == cpu
  231. [10:34:29] <av500> its what you do when prototyping a new CPU design
  232. [10:34:35] <raster> av500: oooooooh
  233. [10:34:35] <av500> pc sim, very slow
  234. [10:34:38] <raster> that stuff
  235. [10:34:41] <jacekowski> no
  236. [10:34:41] <av500> fpga, slow
  237. [10:34:41] <raster> gotcha!
  238. [10:34:45] <jacekowski> asic == real chip
  239. [10:35:00] <jacekowski> finished product in real silicon
  240. [10:35:14] <jacekowski> that's why people invented fpga
  241. [10:36:06] <hitlin37> 400:isn't it 600*4
  242. [10:36:34] <jacekowski> no
  243. [10:36:43] <av500> jacekowski: still is depends on the acic technology used
  244. [10:37:12] <av500> for rapid prototyping you can go standard cell or gate array design
  245. [10:37:29] <av500> and then you cannot get the same speed as if you do full custom aka cpu
  246. [10:38:02] <jacekowski> it's still same silicon
  247. [10:38:37] <av500> hitlin37: the pdf says 400mhz
  248. [10:38:48] <hitlin37> ok
  249. [10:41:19] <hitlin37> 1600 then
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  256. [11:13:08] <mru> the NEC chip is real silicon
  257. [11:13:24] <mru> the fgpa-like chip runs at ~150MHz top
  258. [11:13:35] <mru> and has only 1.5 cores
  259. [11:14:16] <mru> and I don't think they're selling those
  260. [11:14:31] <mru> only a handful were ever made afaik
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  266. [11:35:03] <_koen_> mru: 1.5 cores?
  267. [11:35:39] <mru> one core with neon, one without
  268. [11:36:03] <jacekowski> mru: fpga can run at quite high speeds
  269. [11:36:04] <_koen_> ah
  270. [11:36:27] <mru> jacekowski: the a9 we're talking about isn't an fpga and doesn't run faster than 150MHz
  271. [11:36:51] <jacekowski> hmmm
  272. [11:37:01] <jacekowski> iirc a9 was supposed to run at 600MHz+
  273. [11:37:13] <mru> not the first test chip
  274. [11:37:40] <mru> properly optimised silicon implementations run well over 1GHz
  275. [11:51:14] <zumbi_> hi! is PM working fine on beagle?
  276. [11:53:18] <zumbi_> I get Class driver suspend failed for cpu0 :-?
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  279. [12:10:15] <jkridner> good morning all. jacekowski: _av500_ was right, they are not 3V tolerant. The AM3517 has 3.3V I/O.
  280. [12:11:29] <djlewis> hmmm it left memphis
  281. [12:15:40] <_koen_> hey jkridner
  282. [12:16:40] <jkridner|work> _koen_: I'm starting out today doing my OE rebase and trying to use Narcissus scripts.
  283. [12:16:58] <_koen_> nice
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  285. [12:31:37] <djlewis> gm guys
  286. [12:31:52] <jkridner|work> hi djlewis
  287. [12:32:32] <djlewis> jkridner: hi, getting those XM images finished up?
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  289. [12:33:06] <jkridner|work> "finished"? well, there is a downloadable demo that is rebuildable via a script.
  290. [12:33:30] <jkridner|work> I'm trying to clean up the instructions to use it and align the patches with mainline still.
  291. [12:33:43] <djlewis> cool :) those new XM's are slowly showing up here.
  292. [12:33:54] <jkridner|work> I also need to add instructions to download other distros, like Ubuntu, Android (Rowboat), MeeGo, etc.
  293. [12:34:34] <av500> dont forget chrome os
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  295. [12:41:47] <rs_> When i try to use printk i get <1> whatever is printed why do i get the printk level?
  296. [12:43:19] <mru> because that's how it works
  297. [12:43:58] <rs_> how do i print without the level?
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  299. [12:45:23] <av500> edit source?
  300. [12:45:30] <rs_> is this related to the newline character? am i supposed to have it at the end of each printk.
  301. [12:45:38] <rs_> av500: thats not advisable
  302. [12:45:42] <av500> not?
  303. [12:45:49] <av500> omg
  304. [12:46:24] * av500 unedits all his source code
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  312. [13:11:10] <siji> hi all
  313. [13:11:33] <siji> am trying to create the clone of my whole sd card(Angstrom_beagleboard kernel)
  314. [13:11:43] <siji> by using dd
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  316. [13:12:11] <siji> but while while trying to put it back , it's giving the message that no space left in the device
  317. [13:12:20] <siji> Why it's happening like
  318. [13:12:32] <siji> how to solve this issue ?
  319. [13:13:21] <av500> put it back?
  320. [13:13:51] <siji> i mean while trying to clone it in another sdcard
  321. [13:14:02] <av500> and they have the exact same size?
  322. [13:14:30] <av500> what does fdisk /dev/sdX say for both of them?
  323. [13:14:37] <siji> yes
  324. [13:14:44] <siji> both are same
  325. [13:15:00] <jacekowski> where i can get zippy2 in the uk?
  326. [13:15:08] <siji> somebody told me that need to sync while using dd
  327. [13:15:25] <_koen_> jacekowski: digikey or tct
  328. [13:15:26] <av500> after you finish
  329. [13:16:01] <siji> how?
  330. [13:16:14] <av500> how what?
  331. [13:16:18] <siji> i mean wht's the syntax ?
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  333. [13:16:42] <av500> dm8tbr: I hope you lol as much as i do atm
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  335. [13:16:47] <av500> siji: man sync
  336. [13:16:53] <dm8tbr> av500: lemme see
  337. [13:16:55] <siji> ok
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  339. [13:17:44] <jacekowski> koen: they are not uk based
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  341. [13:17:49] <dm8tbr> av500: ah, about our vulture, yes, I don't knnow what kind of drugs he's taking
  342. [13:17:49] <jacekowski> koen: it will take week or more to deliver
  343. [13:17:55] <av500> jacekowski: but they have UK on their map
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  345. [13:18:38] <av500> jacekowski: there are faster delivery methods
  346. [13:18:49] <av500> sparkfun took 2 days
  347. [13:19:18] <_koen_> digikey has offices all over the world
  348. [13:19:52] <_koen_> av500: for germany you could try waterott
  349. [13:21:07] <jacekowski> av500: where are you?
  350. [13:21:09] <jacekowski> av500: UK?
  351. [13:21:11] <av500> .de
  352. [13:21:19] <av500> _koen_: 7-10 day? i got sf in 2
  353. [13:21:40] <jacekowski> hmm, i can order from germany or usa
  354. [13:21:43] <_koen_> waterott usually takes 2-3 days for me
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  356. [13:22:14] <av500> yes, but they say that can get sf stuff in 7-10
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  358. [13:23:23] <av500> and its not like i order beagles every week
  359. [13:23:34] * _koen_ neither
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  363. [13:32:43] <jacekowski> ordered
  364. [13:32:44] <jacekowski> ??70
  365. [13:32:58] <jacekowski> from digikey
  366. [13:33:01] <jacekowski> via ups express
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  368. [13:36:47] <sakoman> koen: have you ever set up an oestats server? I'm having trouble getting mine to work right :-(
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  370. [13:37:53] <_koen_> sakoman: I set up the original one and _roger_ setup the internal TI one a few months back
  371. [13:38:19] <_koen_> sakoman: it needs its own vhost *or* a shitload of reconfiguration
  372. [13:39:13] <sakoman> _koen_: I followed the instructions on the oestats site, but it doesn't seem to quite work
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  374. [13:39:31] <sakoman> so I suspect there must be something missing from their instructions :-(
  375. [13:40:02] <sakoman> looks like this: http://build.sakoman.com/
  376. [13:40:28] <_koen_> your media directory is missing
  377. [13:40:44] <_koen_> that's set in the apache config
  378. [13:41:07] <sakoman> that was my first thought, but it is indeed in the config
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  380. [13:42:07] <sakoman> _koen_: for example: http://build.sakoman.com/media/css/dashboard.css
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  398. [14:42:05] <jkridner|work1> I've updated the first 2 sections of http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleBoardDiagnosticsNext
  399. [14:43:30] * katie_ (~katierh@nat/ti/x-yeucuezxdmelqvig) Quit ()
  400. [14:45:41] <_koen_> jkridner|work1: why is it on googlecode and not in gitorious next to the code or on beagleboard.org?
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  402. [14:46:14] <jkridner|work1> good question.... it is really just because we originally launched with Google Code.
  403. [14:48:56] * _koen_ keeps asking that question and never getting an answer
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  414. [15:09:31] <jkridner|work1> koen: I don't see a bug tracker on Gitorious.
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  419. [15:18:41] <jkridner|work1> koen: I was going to transfer the wiki content to gitorious, but it doesn't seem that Gitorious manages the wiki as a git repository...
  420. [15:18:50] <jkridner|work1> on code.google.com, I can use git-svn.
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  430. [15:48:47] <djlewis_> emeb: ping
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  446. [16:27:45] <emeb> djlewis_: pong
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  453. [16:36:36] <djlewis_> emeb: it arrived 9:51 central
  454. [16:36:39] <djlewis_> playing now
  455. [16:37:07] <djlewis_> so did your bud already get his?
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  457. [16:39:01] <emeb> djlewis_: congrats! How you liking it so far?
  458. [16:39:25] <emeb> my pal in CO hasn't mentioned anything yet, so I'm guessing he hasn't gotten it yet.
  459. [16:39:57] <av500> djlewis_: i just got this on my desk: http://www.signalhound.com/
  460. [16:40:59] <emeb> av500: interesting.
  461. [16:41:15] <av500> yeah
  462. [16:41:18] <emeb> 240kHz instantaneous BW would be nice for some NB stuff
  463. [16:41:40] <emeb> API exposure for coding yer own is good
  464. [16:41:49] <av500> and 5mhz, no?
  465. [16:42:37] <emeb> Yeah - I'm trying to square that 5MHz RBW with with the 240kHz...
  466. [16:42:47] <emeb> not getting anywhere...
  467. [16:42:57] <emeb> Looks like WinXX only tho...
  468. [16:43:15] <av500> yeah
  469. [16:43:25] <av500> buy a small netbook with it
  470. [16:43:25] <emeb> djlewis_: what firmware rev on your unit?
  471. [16:44:22] <emeb> av500: true. Can't hook it to GnuRadio w/o some work tho
  472. [16:45:42] <emeb> that -140dBm noise level looks pretty nice
  473. [16:46:04] <emeb> even ds2 might approve (he's looking for something that
  474. [16:46:12] <emeb> 's good down to -180 or so)
  475. [16:47:20] <djlewis_> emeb: the warmer I get to it the more I like it. customers are interrupting my playing ;)
  476. [16:47:52] <djlewis_> av500: cool instrument you got there :)\
  477. [16:48:06] <av500> not mine, loaner from a friend
  478. [16:49:56] <djlewis_> emeb: 00.02.04 off screen, no hookup yet
  479. [16:50:21] <djlewis_> av500: well, less costly that way
  480. [16:50:45] <emeb> djlewis_: OK, so you'll have to downgrade the firmware to do the 100MHz hack
  481. [16:51:33] <djlewis_> most likely. I read all about it before I purchased. I want to see more of others success before I go voiding the warranty.
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  483. [16:52:17] <emeb> djlewis_: wise
  484. [16:52:56] <emeb> av500: looking at the manual for the signalhound - they've got a separate 5MHz log-amp in the IF chain for that RBW setting
  485. [16:53:03] <av500> k
  486. [16:53:06] <emeb> all else goes through the digitizer
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  488. [16:53:37] <emeb> looks fairly well designed & multifunctional.
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  490. [16:57:38] <djlewis_> I been reading where people are scrambling there sets just a bit. So if that happens it is easy to detect tampering.
  491. [16:57:55] <djlewis_> and if it needs warranty repair and wont run for you after an upgrade, ....
  492. [16:58:18] <av500> djlewis_: what did u pay?
  493. [16:58:21] <djlewis_> I'll sit on it until I am dying for 100Mhs
  494. [16:58:29] <djlewis_> $399
  495. [16:58:34] <av500> emeb: yes, nice part, my coworker will not let me open it though :(
  496. [16:58:36] <av500> :)
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  498. [17:01:12] <emeb> av500: some people - no sense of adventure
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  500. [17:02:17] <av500> ill do it anyway of course
  501. [17:02:55] <av500> damn, screw under stickers that scratch easily
  502. [17:04:54] <djlewis_> emeb: your pal should get a vinyl bag with his, A Salig bag. that would be nice for toting.
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  505. [17:07:03] <djlewis_> scope cal date on 05-jun-2010
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  508. [17:09:35] <emeb> djlewis_: yep - the bag was what pushed him to Saelig.
  509. [17:09:49] <emeb> av500: sometimes those stickers don'
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  511. [17:10:04] <emeb> t scratch as easily as they're supposed to...
  512. [17:10:49] <av500> well, its the faceplate
  513. [17:10:54] <av500> or the backplate
  514. [17:11:05] <av500> and its from a friend of a friend
  515. [17:11:12] <av500> so nobody i directly know
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  517. [17:11:25] <av500> ill just ask company to buy one :)
  518. [17:11:32] <emeb> ah - better not get the man-in-the-middle in hot water
  519. [17:12:10] <emeb> "It's needed to test WiFi - yeah, that's the ticket..."
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  521. [17:12:27] <av500> emeb: exactly that is what it is for
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  527. [17:30:44] <gnuyuva> hi #beagle, i have some issues with beagleboard
  528. [17:31:15] <gnuyuva> i supplied power using usb cable, and attached rs232 to beagle-C4
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  530. [17:31:58] <gnuyuva> its continuously displaying "Texas Instruments X-loader 1.4.2 ...."
  531. [17:32:13] <gnuyuva> i tried pressing `RESET' button, but no luck :-(
  532. [17:32:39] <gnuyuva> any pointers?
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  534. [17:35:10] <jkridner> sounds like the fat file system is no longer clean for x-load to read u-boot.
  535. [17:36:09] <djlewis_> or wrong u-boot
  536. [17:36:12] <jkridner> x-load is pretty picky (ie. has some bugs) and requires that the FAT file system not have any deleted files or certain funny names that cause it to miss finding u-boot in the path.
  537. [17:36:24] <jkridner> that's possible too....
  538. [17:36:57] <jkridner> I'd say, rebuild your SD card or remove it to boot the u-boot that is in the flash on a C4.
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  540. [17:37:23] <gnuyuva> well, i didn't put any SD card
  541. [17:37:30] <gnuyuva> im just following instructions in C4 doc
  542. [17:37:51] <jkridner> in the BBSRM?
  543. [17:37:58] <gnuyuva> under `12.0 Board Verification' section
  544. [17:37:59] * jkridner looks at what instructions are there.
  545. [17:38:06] <gnuyuva> yep
  546. [17:40:39] <jkridner> is this a new board?
  547. [17:40:47] <jkridner> have you done any steps to flash it before?
  548. [17:40:47] <gnuyuva> yep, C4 ver
  549. [17:40:58] <gnuyuva> no, i didnt do any
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  552. [17:41:27] <jkridner> no "Loading u-boot.bin from nand" output then?
  553. [17:41:46] <gnuyuva> yes, no such message
  554. [17:42:30] <gnuyuva> its continuously displaying that first message "Texas Instruments X-Loader 1.4.2 (Feb 19 2009 - 12:01:24)"
  555. [17:42:43] <jkridner> how are you powering the board?
  556. [17:42:57] <gnuyuva> using USB cable, connected to OTG port
  557. [17:44:46] <jkridner> do you have a 5V supply? it seems to be coming up more frequently that some boards are consuming too much power for some USB ports.
  558. [17:45:53] <gnuyuva> no, i dont have 5v supply
  559. [17:46:09] <jkridner> I don't guess you have any other USB cables either?
  560. [17:46:12] <gnuyuva> you mean my PC is rejecting to provide that much power to beagle?
  561. [17:46:16] <jkridner> sometimes the cable can make the difference.
  562. [17:46:31] <jkridner> more or less, yes.
  563. [17:46:53] <gnuyuva> i have one more, i'll check with that!
  564. [17:47:07] <gnuyuva> btw, should i insert SD card?
  565. [17:47:16] <jkridner> no
  566. [17:48:30] <gnuyuva> i'll try other USB ports on my PC
  567. [17:49:54] <gnuyuva> well, no luck! is there a chance that my beagle got damaged?
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  569. [17:50:45] <djlewis_> not likely
  570. [17:51:16] <jkridner> yes, there is a chance, but I am much more suspicious that it is just taking too much current and it keeps triggering reset.
  571. [17:51:40] <gnuyuva> oh, ok
  572. [17:52:26] <gnuyuva> i'll try getting one 5V supply
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  577. [17:57:36] <gnuyuva> @jkrinder have you seen any issues like this lately?
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  579. [17:59:42] <jkridner> yes
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  581. [18:01:36] <jkridner> gnuyuva: a USB Y-cable should also resolve the issue.
  582. [18:02:06] <gnuyuva> ok, i have one, i'll try that!
  583. [18:02:32] <gnuyuva> should i connect both the ports of Y cable?
  584. [18:03:22] <koen> jkridner: doesn't the TSP limit the current coming from the otg port?
  585. [18:03:32] <koen> ehm
  586. [18:03:33] <koen> TPS
  587. [18:05:24] <gnuyuva> well, it worked!
  588. [18:06:02] <jkridner> how?
  589. [18:06:46] <gnuyuva> i used that USB Y cable!
  590. [18:07:13] <gnuyuva> but, i have other problems i suppose, there are error messages
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  593. [18:11:37] <gnuyuva> hm, no problems, its showing the messages as provided in the manual
  594. [18:11:50] <_av500_> jkridner: you are under attack, fruit company bb competitor is $99 only
  595. [18:12:31] <gnuyuva> i was misled with the msg "ERROR: can't get kernel image!", and i came to know its ok!
  596. [18:12:42] <jkridner|work1> hmm.
  597. [18:13:05] <jkridner|work1> _av500_: isn't that a *closed* system?
  598. [18:13:09] <gnuyuva> @jkrinder, thanks for that `Y' cable tip!
  599. [18:13:09] <russ> that isn't an open device
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  601. [18:14:39] <_av500_> :)
  602. [18:17:24] <koen> russ: I have a dremel, I can open it for you
  603. [18:18:04] <koen> jkridner|work1: I wonder why you need to keep reminding the canonical guys to keep an eye on the validation repo to get the patches they need
  604. [18:18:44] <koen> _av500_: I guess Joe now has a better idea on what the osd3 should be
  605. [18:18:49] <russ> koen, cool, I just have them fax me some schematics then
  606. [18:18:50] <Spicerunner> Has anyone successfully used sysfs on the Angstrom ditribution to manage the GPIO brought out to the expansion header?
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  609. [18:24:23] <GatorBoz> Anyone used the U-Boot Beagle configuration as a base for a port to a new board?
  610. [18:25:26] <Spicerunner> Has anyone successfully done anything with the expansion board GPIOs?
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  614. [18:29:16] <ds2> done lots of thingswith the GPIO's
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  616. [18:35:28] <Spicerunner> I'm using an out of the box Angstrom distribution and have no problem manhandling the user led's (the distro had specific sysfs folders for them. However, when I try to manipulate the other GPIOs going out the header I can't get them to change state.
  617. [18:35:54] <Spicerunner> I can export 168 for example...the sysfs folder structure is correctly created but nothing happens.
  618. [18:36:19] <Spicerunner> I'm not married to sysfs...but I really need to read a discrete input and drive a few LEDs.
  619. [18:36:51] <Spicerunner> ds2, did you use the angstrom distro?
  620. [18:37:16] <ds2> Spicerunner: nope.
  621. [18:40:01] <koen> Spicerunner: you can only export GPIOs that aren't used as anything else
  622. [18:40:24] <koen> Spicerunner: I can control the GPIOs on my trainer expansion board with sysfs just fine
  623. [18:41:23] <Spicerunner> I know. I broke the link of the USR led's to the mmc and I could control them with the beagleboard led sysfs folders...but no chance with the GPIO on the expansion board. No idea what the deal is.
  624. [18:42:53] <DesktopMa> http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_ipod/family/apple_tv?mco=MTM3NTM1Nzk
  625. [18:43:01] <DesktopMa> is this gonna be the cheap "hack it" beagle board?
  626. [18:43:10] <DesktopMa> seems like good value for the hardware
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  628. [18:44:45] <sklnd> except for the part where getting something like a beagleboard gets you something that's open
  629. [18:44:48] <sklnd> with hardware specs
  630. [18:45:05] <sklnd> and supports dudes who make open hardware
  631. [18:45:41] <DesktopMa> well if this os runs out of the box that's more than I could say with my experience with the beagle board
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  634. [18:51:42] <russ> apple might be selling it at a loss
  635. [18:51:53] <russ> in which case they definately would not want you hacking it
  636. [18:52:09] <killring> heh... apple doesn't sell anything at a loss
  637. [18:52:22] <russ> I wouldn't be surprised to see some kind of trusted boot
  638. [18:53:10] <_av500_> russ: at a loss, no
  639. [18:53:21] <_av500_> its one soc, a wifi and bit of glue
  640. [18:53:58] <_av500_> you can have wifi routers for less than $99
  641. [18:55:00] <killring> also keep in mind that apple is operating at economies of scale that allows them to hit price points that smaller device companies can't even break even at
  642. [18:55:45] <_av500_> true
  643. [18:56:03] <_av500_> but $99 is doable
  644. [18:56:28] <_av500_> its not at a loss
  645. [18:56:43] <jacekowski> well, o2 was selling joggler for ??49
  646. [18:56:55] <jacekowski> and that's full x86 based pc with memory and lcd and touchscreen
  647. [18:57:06] <_av500_> oteher hd streamers sell for round $99 as well
  648. [18:57:21] <_av500_> wd tv life
  649. [18:57:27] <_av500_> or what it is called
  650. [18:57:33] <jacekowski> just wondering what is inside of it
  651. [18:57:36] <jacekowski> is it arm based something
  652. [18:57:39] <_av500_> a4
  653. [18:57:44] <jacekowski> how do you know?
  654. [18:57:45] <_av500_> same is iphone 4
  655. [18:58:01] <_av500_> it makes sense
  656. [18:58:02] <DesktopMa> or read the spec page :P
  657. [18:58:04] <jacekowski> slow piece of crap then
  658. [18:58:15] <_av500_> jacekowski: yeah, nobody will buy it
  659. [18:58:23] <jacekowski> but i'm surprised that they sell it so cheap
  660. [18:58:28] <_av500_> it wont run gimp and openoffice
  661. [18:58:33] <_av500_> hence utter crap
  662. [18:58:38] <DesktopMa> eh isn't
  663. [18:58:42] <DesktopMa> wops
  664. [18:58:49] <jacekowski> apple ussualy sells their stuff for much more than competition sells similiar device
  665. [18:59:05] <_av500_> jacekowski: the also tend to surprise people
  666. [18:59:08] <_av500_> they
  667. [18:59:23] <_av500_> cable in us will have that box
  668. [18:59:27] <DesktopMa> they want people into the apple eco system
  669. [18:59:33] <jacekowski> i suppose they hope to make most of profit on itunes
  670. [18:59:38] <DesktopMa> so better to sell twice as many at 99 than at 199
  671. [19:00:25] <_av500_> DesktopMa: this $99 boyx is just for them to get to your tv
  672. [19:00:35] <DesktopMa> yep
  673. [19:00:37] <_av500_> even before google tv gets there
  674. [19:00:42] <_av500_> and it works with any tv
  675. [19:00:47] <jacekowski> if joggler would have hdmi and could decode hd easily
  676. [19:00:48] <DesktopMa> just waiting for it to get hacked so I can use it for other stuffs :P
  677. [19:00:54] <_av500_> jacekowski: if
  678. [19:01:04] <_av500_> DesktopMa: yeah
  679. [19:01:09] <jacekowski> besides, it can't have a4
  680. [19:01:12] <jacekowski> a4 is too slow for HD
  681. [19:01:18] <_av500_> no
  682. [19:01:19] <DesktopMa> not with a hardware decoder
  683. [19:01:25] <_av500_> jacekowski: iphone4 does hd
  684. [19:01:29] <jacekowski> it would need external decoder
  685. [19:01:29] <DesktopMa> yeah
  686. [19:01:34] <_av500_> stop spreading fud
  687. [19:01:49] <jacekowski> av500: and iphone displays hd as well?
  688. [19:01:57] <_av500_> who said display?
  689. [19:02:15] <jacekowski> besides, 720p is barely a hd
  690. [19:02:22] <DesktopMa> it's HD by definition
  691. [19:02:32] <_av500_> jacekowski: i dont care
  692. [19:02:36] <_av500_> appl does not care
  693. [19:02:57] <jacekowski> they have applecare
  694. [19:03:09] <DesktopMa> if I can get some stuff running on it it would make a cheap store display unit
  695. [19:03:26] <jacekowski> stream
  696. [19:03:59] <jkridner> with the right codecs, even the BeagleBoard can do really high-quality H.264 720p--just look at the Archos media players.
  697. [19:04:34] <jacekowski> 720p
  698. [19:04:45] <jkridner> are you really going to stream 1080p?
  699. [19:04:45] <jacekowski> that box apparently does 1080pp
  700. [19:04:47] <koen> jkridner: high-q HP?
  701. [19:04:50] <jacekowski> 1080p*
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  703. [19:05:06] <killring> and isn't the bb issue re: 1080 more bus bandwidth than processing power?
  704. [19:05:09] <_av500_> koen: who cares, appl controls the whole chain
  705. [19:05:10] <jkridner> ie. with good error recoverty, etc.
  706. [19:05:21] <_av500_> they can encode in just the right format anbd bitrate
  707. [19:05:22] <jkridner> good loop filtering, high-profile.
  708. [19:05:30] <koen> _av500_: that has a question for jkridner about codecs :)
  709. [19:05:30] <_av500_> for their box
  710. [19:05:36] <_av500_> koen: iknow
  711. [19:06:05] <koen> I wonder if apple has an iT dept instead of an IT dept
  712. [19:06:18] <_av500_> koen: but it applies to you as well, customers do not care about all that tech foo
  713. [19:06:21] <DesktopMa> the new apple tv only does main profile. not sure what other companies have been able to do on similar hardware
  714. [19:06:26] <_av500_> they just want their files to play
  715. [19:06:37] <_av500_> DesktopMa: similar things
  716. [19:07:20] <DesktopMa> it's apple so I'm sure they're releasing a dual core 1080p capable one next year :P
  717. [19:07:33] <_av500_> no, in 18 month
  718. [19:07:39] <koen> _av500_: I know, I get requests for weird codecs all the time when a customer encounters new stuff
  719. [19:07:41] <_av500_> thats their release cycle
  720. [19:08:05] <_av500_> koen: speaking of which, hows the hunting?
  721. [19:08:23] <DesktopMa> av500: ah right
  722. [19:10:53] <koen> _av500_: still no news, maybe jkridner nows
  723. [19:10:56] <koen> jkridner: vp8?
  724. [19:11:15] <jkridner> on C6000?
  725. [19:12:24] <jacekowski> anyways
  726. [19:12:38] <jkridner> hunting?
  727. [19:12:42] <jacekowski> i connected scope/logic probe/logic analyser to i2c pin on j3
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  729. [19:13:02] <jacekowski> connected 4k7 or 4k3 pull up
  730. [19:13:11] <jacekowski> on clock and data
  731. [19:13:24] <jacekowski> started bb and got into u-boot prompt
  732. [19:13:30] <jacekowski> and then typed i2c device 2
  733. [19:13:33] <jacekowski> and i2c probe
  734. [19:13:35] <jacekowski> and nothing happened
  735. [19:13:46] <jkridner> koen: I'm not picking up the question from the dialog.
  736. [19:14:00] <jacekowski> is that correct?
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  739. [19:18:24] <koen> jkridner: http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/?id=20
  740. [19:18:38] <koen> jkridner: vp8 codecs for c6k or iva, yes
  741. [19:19:06] <koen> mru: thanks again for adding direct quote support :)
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  743. [19:20:23] <_av500_> jkridner: is there vp8 for the iva?
  744. [19:20:34] <_av500_> on2 says ti knows
  745. [19:21:11] <mru> which iva?
  746. [19:21:14] <jkridner> I copied koen on a message asking the right person.
  747. [19:21:21] <mru> ivahd can probably do a lot of vp8
  748. [19:21:40] <mru> iva2 less likely
  749. [19:22:25] <_av500_> mru: i know ;(
  750. [19:22:29] <jkridner> IVA2 would likely be mostly C6000.
  751. [19:23:39] <koen> jkridner: I asked ebby last month, he put it somewhere on his list
  752. [19:23:56] <koen> then I distracted him with questions about MP and HP on dm37xx
  753. [19:24:08] <_av500_> this list needs sorting
  754. [19:24:27] * jkridner wonders if it would be possible to raise BeagleBoard.org funds to pay mru to develop an ARM+IVA open source version of VP8 and if anyone would actually use it.
  755. [19:24:38] <mru> koen: ebby is a manager, why would he know?
  756. [19:24:43] <koen> I heard google is giving us $3k
  757. [19:24:49] <_av500_> wow
  758. [19:24:59] <jkridner> just for GSoC...
  759. [19:24:59] <mru> 3k to do what?
  760. [19:25:00] <koen> 6x $500 for gsoc
  761. [19:25:04] <mru> oh
  762. [19:25:18] <jkridner> and we'd want to give the mentors some xM hardware for their efforts, IMO.
  763. [19:25:26] <koen> mru: it was a "stuff on dm37xx" call
  764. [19:25:48] <_av500_> koen: patch me in next time, i can answer your question
  765. [19:25:49] <_av500_> s
  766. [19:25:56] <_av500_> and shout a bit
  767. [19:26:04] <_av500_> a tiny wee bit
  768. [19:27:25] <koen> using PCM by typing really fast?
  769. [19:28:09] <mru> so who gets to go to the gsoc mentor summit?
  770. [19:29:59] <jkridner> jefro, jkridner, ssc, and ds2 were the first 4 to request.
  771. [19:30:12] <jkridner> (that I know about)
  772. [19:30:47] <mru> what, it's decided by who monitors his email most closely?
  773. [19:31:00] <_av500_> i would go too :)
  774. [19:31:27] <jkridner> I really don't care who goes....
  775. [19:31:39] <jkridner> do we need to get better organized about it? is there that much interest?
  776. [19:32:22] <Jefro> just answering email
  777. [19:32:23] <ds2> there is a cost issue
  778. [19:32:35] <koen> I propose we add a layer of management for that
  779. [19:32:42] <ds2> jefro and I are local (or close to it)
  780. [19:32:43] <koen> and have owners for sub actions
  781. [19:32:55] <koen> and then some managers for the owners
  782. [19:33:04] <koen> and some managers for the management
  783. [19:33:07] <ds2> koen: volunteering to maintain a MS Project files and act as a PM? :D
  784. [19:33:26] <Jefro> ds2 yep - I'm not exactly local (4 hrs away) but close
  785. [19:33:32] <koen> and then micromanage the shit out of everything
  786. [19:33:46] <koen> that is how it works for every company in india I have seen
  787. [19:33:54] <ds2> Jefro: where are you?
  788. [19:33:59] <jkridner> well.... I'd be OK with giving up my spot, but I thought that it was "generally preferred" that I attend (and it is a great chance to meet up with a bunch of project maintainers).
  789. [19:34:17] <ds2> I can also drop out and just meet folks afterwards
  790. [19:34:21] <Jefro> ds2 I live in Mendocino, about 200 miles north
  791. [19:34:41] * mmadrigal (~mmadrigal@186.4.15.155) Quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)
  792. [19:34:44] <jkridner> I think we want to try to spend the $$$ to pull in someone from Europe (and I'd have TI pay for my travel).
  793. [19:34:52] <Jefro> I will likely be in town Sunday evening no matter what (for a class starting Monday morning), so even if the waitlist doesn't reach me I'd be happy to meet up with folks then
  794. [19:34:56] <jkridner> we were talking about trying to use it to bring in ssc.
  795. [19:35:02] <ds2> Jefro: yikes... GG bridge traffic to contend
  796. [19:35:21] <Jefro> ds2 yes - it was easier when I had an airplane. ;)
  797. [19:35:33] <ds2> Jefro: and land in SFO? ;)
  798. [19:35:34] <jkridner> consensus is met at the point that people stop bugging me about it.
  799. [19:35:37] <Jefro> _av500_, where are you at?
  800. [19:35:41] <mru> I wouldn't mind going, but I won't the terribly upset if I don't get to
  801. [19:35:46] <Jefro> ds2 no, Palo Alto or RHV
  802. [19:35:53] <Jefro> mru where are you located?
  803. [19:35:57] <ds2> heh I see
  804. [19:36:01] <mru> uk
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  806. [19:36:23] * wmat unboxes his XM
  807. [19:36:31] <jkridner> do we know where Google will cap attendees?
  808. [19:36:36] <Jefro> hmm... checking hipmunk.com for flight times & rough price estimates
  809. [19:36:43] * ds2 watches elinux.org go up in smoke as wmat gets distracted ;)
  810. [19:36:44] <Jefro> google caps attendance at the summit at 300 I believe
  811. [19:36:50] * jkridner looks forward to hearing about wmat's experience.
  812. [19:36:53] <mru> jkridner: there was an email on the mentors list a while ago
  813. [19:36:58] <Jefro> but carol said there are many teams that only send 0 or 1 person
  814. [19:37:11] <ds2> Jefro: all of us going up is better... the redwoods are better meeting place }:-)
  815. [19:37:18] <jkridner> so, they will fill the wait-list up to the 300?
  816. [19:37:30] <Jefro> yes - but not until 2 weeks before the event
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  818. [19:37:49] * mru wouldn't mind a sponsored trip to CA w/o google visit...
  819. [19:37:55] <jkridner> will people on the wait-list get travel funds?
  820. [19:38:03] <Jefro> I could talk to Carol and let her know that we have a LOT of mentors interested in going
  821. [19:38:06] <russ> are we talking about the embedded linux euro conference
  822. [19:38:21] <Jefro> I believe they have $2000 for each group that we can spend as needed
  823. [19:38:22] <koen> elc-e is the week after the mentor summit
  824. [19:38:23] <ds2> Are we allow to swap people at the last minute?
  825. [19:38:24] <mru> that's in cambridge, so I can easily attend that
  826. [19:38:25] * russ 's friend just got a free android phone of his choosing for sending in a security fix to google
  827. [19:38:29] * jkridner would have an easier time generating sponsored trips to TX.
  828. [19:38:40] <wmat> ds2: heh, I hope not. I'm about to switch over the DNS to OSUOSL
  829. [19:39:10] <Jefro> ds2 - I don't think they would have a problem with swapping people in if travel plans change
  830. [19:39:11] <russ> I'd be awesome to make it out to the cambridge conference
  831. [19:39:15] <wmat> well, in the next day or so anyway
  832. [19:39:24] <wmat> everyone should go to ELCE
  833. [19:39:42] <Jefro> I'd also love to go to elc-e, been meaning to do so for several years but have no travel funding for it - I go to too many conferences already :)
  834. [19:40:03] <Jefro> and the US ELC is in SF, just around the corner
  835. [19:40:04] <ds2> Jefro: if that is the case, if I get through the wait list, I don't mind being swapped out for someone else at the last minute
  836. [19:40:10] <mru> hmm, would I pass as hobbyist at elce?
  837. [19:40:24] <russ> when is ELC-SF?
  838. [19:40:24] * wmat wants an ELCC (C == Canada ;)
  839. [19:40:42] <Jefro> russ: ELC-SF is in april, co-located with the Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit.
  840. [19:40:42] <wmat> ELC-SF is typically in April
  841. [19:40:48] <mru> otherwise I'll only go if someone sponsors me
  842. [19:41:00] <russ> but does ELC-SF have wookie?
  843. [19:41:07] <Jefro> ds2 that sounds good. my understanding is that nearly everyone on the waitlist gets in.
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  845. [19:41:37] <koen> ELC in california is pretty nice
  846. [19:41:44] <wmat> prpplague: are you good to go to ELC-E?
  847. [19:41:46] <koen> need to go there again
  848. [19:41:57] <russ> wmat, I think he is one of the speakers
  849. [19:42:08] <Jefro> keep in mind when planning that the Google Mentor Summit is going to be all about how to make GSOC better, not about anything technical
  850. [19:42:09] <wmat> yes, I thought I knew that, just making sure
  851. [19:42:21] <russ> "Board Bringup: Methods and Utilities"
  852. [19:42:26] <wmat> right!
  853. [19:42:29] <wmat> russ: thx
  854. [19:42:35] <wmat> can't wait for the video
  855. [19:42:37] <russ> and the OMAP3/4 BoF
  856. [19:43:10] <russ> I've been to the UK, my wife would not
  857. [19:43:18] <Jefro> russ - any idea whether the sessions will be recorded?
  858. [19:43:22] <russ> she'd kill me if I went there for a conference and didn't take her
  859. [19:43:32] <mru> so take her
  860. [19:43:38] <russ> Jefro, no idea, I just know what I read on embeddedlinuxconference.com
  861. [19:43:43] <ds2> russ: tell her she shouldn't miss the humidity
  862. [19:43:48] <russ> mru, one round trip from AZ is already enough money
  863. [19:44:11] <russ> She's been to the rest of Europe, and so I've tried to tell her she isn't missing anything
  864. [19:44:12] <mru> if you fly economy it's not too bad
  865. [19:44:17] <wmat> Jefro: ELC-E is typically recorded more than ELC is
  866. [19:44:18] <russ> $982
  867. [19:44:24] <wmat> as the free-electrons guys are closer
  868. [19:44:27] <Jefro> elc-e is usually recorded by Free Electrons, who is based in France
  869. [19:44:28] <mru> russ: for two?
  870. [19:44:32] <russ> 1
  871. [19:44:41] <mru> sounds way too much
  872. [19:44:45] <mru> what airline was that?
  873. [19:44:49] <ds2> The plasma folks are recording things? :D
  874. [19:44:49] <russ> BA
  875. [19:45:02] <russ> the only flight from my airport that leaves north america
  876. [19:45:32] <mru> which airport is that?
  877. [19:45:35] <tasslehoff> I've compiled my own angstrom-based rootfs for the Beagle and run Qt in an X-less environment. I compile from clean OE git. Does that mean the SGX is not helping me out with my Qt-workload?
  878. [19:45:39] <russ> Sky Harbor (PHX)
  879. [19:45:42] <ds2> fly from Sky Harbor out to LAX
  880. [19:45:46] <ds2> or SFO
  881. [19:46:01] <_av500_> Jefro: germany
  882. [19:46:09] <mru> many choices from lax or sfo
  883. [19:46:30] <Jefro> _av500_ ok, thanks - looks like $800 min
  884. [19:47:27] <_av500_> yeah
  885. [19:48:05] <Jefro> russ I found a few PHX -> LON in the $850 range, not a big help
  886. [19:48:09] <jkridner> tasselhoff: you can use SGX with Qt and the framebuffer, but it only accelerates functions that use 3D hardware. The SGX isn't a 2D accelerator.
  887. [19:48:19] <russ> from SFO, the flights start at $756
  888. [19:48:21] <jkridner> s/tasselhoff/tassleoff/
  889. [19:48:29] <russ> so really, it isn't much difference since I'd have to get to SFO
  890. [19:48:35] <ds2> russ: what about via ORD?
  891. [19:48:45] <jkridner> tasslehoff: there are different Angstrom preferences to build in the SGX code.
  892. [19:49:12] <_av500_> tasslehoff: ppl have found that sgx does not really help qt
  893. [19:49:24] <_av500_> including the qt people
  894. [19:49:36] <_av500_> raster: rant
  895. [19:49:50] <_av500_> damn, hes not online
  896. [19:50:31] <_av500_> otoh, it did make android more snappy in direct comparison
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  898. [19:51:07] <russ> ORD prices are similar to PHX prices, and I don't see any non-stop
  899. [19:51:23] <russ> I'd just have to suck it up if I choose to go
  900. [19:51:31] <ds2> oh
  901. [19:51:41] * mru likes living in range of LHR
  902. [19:51:48] <mru> lots of flights to choose from
  903. [19:51:51] <_av500_> koen: im getting the beast back from berlin, how bout elc-e
  904. [19:51:57] <_av500_> mru: same for fra :)
  905. [19:52:11] <mru> _av500_: lhr has more flights
  906. [19:52:18] <_av500_> pah
  907. [19:52:32] <ds2> isn't there a smaller airport near LHR?
  908. [19:52:50] <mru> london city
  909. [19:52:54] <mru> and gatwick
  910. [19:52:58] <tasslehoff> jkridner: _av500_: thanks for the info. I'm a very 2-dimensional person atm, so maybe it's not so important :)
  911. [19:53:27] <mru> there's also my local airport, but they only fly to europe
  912. [19:53:43] <ds2> oh
  913. [19:53:44] <jkridner> tasslehoff: there are some NEON-optimized routines available that *will* provide 2D performance improvements...
  914. [19:53:57] <dm8tbr> _av500_: I think that heizer2 guy does some nice 3d accelerated Qt stuff on the A5IT. he promised to show it.
  915. [19:54:10] <_av500_> make him
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  917. [19:54:30] <Jefro> So it sounds like there are two potential BeagleBoard gatherings in late October, one in California and one in Cambridge. California has limited seating, but is at least partly sponsored by Google. ssc and jkridner are on the list to go, ds2 and I are on the waitlist but I can jump off if needed.
  918. [19:54:31] <jkridner> I'm not sure if TI (even though I work at TI) is publishing those routines yet (they are closed source :( ), but they should be in the "DVSDK" soon.
  919. [19:54:40] <Jefro> Several other folks have expressed interest - anyone who is *serious* about trying to get to Calif. on the Google waitlist, raise hands. If there are enough I will go to Carol to see if we can get at least one more guaranteed slot.
  920. [19:55:02] <mru> I'll go if I'm given a slot
  921. [19:55:05] <Jefro> Someone else will have to organize the Cambridge meet-up, but I will drink a Guinness in remembrance
  922. [19:55:08] <_av500_> same for me
  923. [19:55:44] <mru> I should try to get someone to pay for me at elce...
  924. [19:56:10] <_av500_> mru: i thought you and me are down as beast wranglers?
  925. [19:56:19] <_av500_> koen: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  926. [19:57:04] <Jefro> ok, anyone else? ssc doesn't appear to be around today, he may have purchased tickets already. just trying to get an idea about costs.
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  929. [20:00:31] <Jefro> I'm seeing prices in the $800 range for LON -> SFO, and I believe that is about what ssc was looking at. Probably similar from Germany.
  930. [20:01:06] <jkridner> Jefro: well, you know I'm willing.
  931. [20:01:37] <_av500_> jkridner: i think you as beaglemom have to go
  932. [20:01:46] <jkridner> :)
  933. [20:02:01] <Jefro> jkridner yup, and I agree that you should totally go (and that we should have a beaglemom t-shirt made for you).
  934. [20:02:09] <_av500_> +1
  935. [20:02:12] <jkridner> why do I have to play the mommy?
  936. [20:02:19] <_av500_> coz gerlad is beagledad
  937. [20:02:20] <jkridner> :)
  938. [20:02:30] <_av500_> and he did all the hard work
  939. [20:02:58] * mru would prefer to fly BA or Virgin
  940. [20:03:19] <mru> they're both around ??450 last I checked
  941. [20:03:24] <_av500_> i would fly cargo if needed
  942. [20:03:39] <russ> I think there might be more legroom there
  943. [20:03:44] <_av500_> unless tom hanks is in the same plane
  944. [20:03:45] <russ> it'd probably cost more
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  946. [20:06:07] * _av500_ circular with a saw
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  948. [20:07:20] <Crofton> I can go to CA, but it depends on when I need to be there for work ...
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  950. [20:08:07] <mru> gsoc and elce in close temporal proximity will take a little planning...
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  953. [20:09:12] <djlewis_> remote program on DSO works well though sluggishly
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  957. [20:16:21] <Crofton> can we build Android with OE yet?
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  960. [20:20:58] <_av500_> lol
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  962. [20:22:40] <Jefro> So, the issue with GSOC Mentor Summit is that they ask us to designate 2 mentors to attend. When everyone has responded, then they go over the waitlist to fill up remaining slots. I have asked Google about guaranteeing us an extra slot if possible, and extending funding a bit. I'll report back when I know more.
  963. [20:25:25] * jkridner|work1 (~a0321898@nat/ti/x-tihdyamfmoodhjix) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
  964. [20:28:18] <Jefro> hey, is anyone other than jkridner and gerald and myself going to the Open Hardware Summit in NY next month?
  965. [20:28:39] <Jefro> just realized that would be another good opportunity for a meetup
  966. [20:28:42] <jkridner> Jefro: you might find some folks on #buglabs
  967. [20:29:00] <Jefro> yes, I think they are a sponsor
  968. [20:29:00] <mru> more than one event in the US in the same month would be tight for me
  969. [20:29:14] <jkridner> BeagleBoard.org is a sponsor now!
  970. [20:29:21] <Jefro> mru you said it. is it just me or are there now too many conferences?
  971. [20:29:28] <Jefro> jkridner that's fantastic! I didn't know that
  972. [20:29:34] <jkridner> there are too many conferences.
  973. [20:29:38] <mru> when is the OHS?
  974. [20:30:00] <Jefro> http://openhardwaresummit.org is on Sept 23 in Queens, near La Guardia airport. 2 days before Maker Faire NY.
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  977. [20:30:40] <mru> that means both of those are out of the question for me
  978. [20:31:07] <Jefro> I'm going for OHS, but NY is too expensive to stay for MakerFaire on my own nickel
  979. [20:31:34] <Jefro> I went to MF in the SF bay area this past spring - 35,000 people, it was a total zoo
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  982. [20:36:12] <djlewis_> time for a outside svc call....
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  985. [20:37:47] <jkridner> Jefro: could always double-up.
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  987. [20:38:40] <Jefro> jkridner thought about that, but I have had too much travel this year already. plus, if I went to MF without my 13 year old he wouldn't speak to me until he was 15.
  988. [20:46:58] * _av500_ s/circular saw/beer/
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  990. [20:55:53] <koen> Crofton: I think mentor will sell you android-built-with-oe soonish
  991. [20:56:10] <koen> Crofton: ask tom or chris and they won't answer ;)
  992. [20:56:21] <Crofton> heh
  993. [20:56:32] <Crofton> I would prefer not to deal with it
  994. [20:56:50] <Crofton> I think the people that are asking about it don't understand Android
  995. [20:56:57] <koen> I think TI fixed teh rowboard download so I guess I can't avoid testing it
  996. [20:57:04] <Crofton> hahaha
  997. [20:57:46] <koen> I got told to test it and the download link was broken
  998. [20:58:06] <Jefro> I had rowboat running well on a C4 this summer, presented at OSCON - it was android 1.something but it worked great
  999. [20:58:22] <Jefro> I highly doubt it was built with OE
  1000. [20:58:22] <Crofton> not Froyo? What's the point? :)
  1001. [20:58:35] <koen> Crofton: that's what I said
  1002. [20:58:53] <Crofton> I had froyo weeks before the Verizon crowd
  1003. [20:59:06] <koen> you 1337 m4n
  1004. [20:59:29] * Crofton has a Nexus One
  1005. [20:59:35] <koen> if I moved the yoghurt from fridge to freezer I'll have froyo as well
  1006. [20:59:48] <koen> and I can bake some gingerbread if needed
  1007. [20:59:56] <robtow> :-)
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  1010. [21:04:28] <sakoman> koen: the css issues with oestats was an incompatibility with latest django
  1011. [21:04:50] <sakoman> now it looks ok: http://build.sakoman.com/
  1012. [21:05:06] <sakoman> but still won't accept connections from build machines :-(
  1013. [21:05:24] <sakoman> seems that I still have some config/permissions issue
  1014. [21:08:45] <Jefro> jonmasters ping
  1015. [21:09:57] <robtow> Ha!
  1016. [21:10:31] <Crofton> ok
  1017. [21:10:47] <Crofton> I have reached a local maxima
  1018. [21:12:15] <mru> wrong use of plural
  1019. [21:12:39] <Jefro> maybe Crofton means a Nissan Maxima?
  1020. [21:12:49] <Crofton> heh
  1021. [21:12:51] <robtow> Opt Max?
  1022. [21:12:56] <Crofton> no, I am goig away for the holiday
  1023. [21:13:08] <Crofton> and should stop working now
  1024. [21:13:24] <_av500_> Crofton: stop working now!
  1025. [21:13:44] <Crofton> http://twitpic.com/2kbxth
  1026. [21:14:42] <mru> twin peaks
  1027. [21:14:46] <robtow> Holiday? That's not allowed.
  1028. [21:14:56] <mru> did david lynch build your spectrum analyser?
  1029. [21:15:22] <_av500_> didnt he biuld xbmc too
  1030. [21:15:33] <robtow> <---had a week long holiday last week; went ses kyaking & abalone diving :-)
  1031. [21:15:53] <robtow> err, "sea kyaking"
  1032. [21:15:54] <Crofton> awesome
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  1034. [21:16:12] <robtow> <--is now settling into the new gig.
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  1036. [21:16:53] <robtow> <--is still looking for any potential playmates at the new gig, BTW.
  1037. [21:17:03] <sakoman> robtow: has vikram showed up yet?
  1038. [21:17:22] <neeraj> sakoman: ping
  1039. [21:17:29] <sakoman> neeraj: pong
  1040. [21:17:45] <robtow> sakoman - yes; he's in the cubie next door :-) We are the only two here so far.
  1041. [21:17:54] <_av500_> robtow: define "here"
  1042. [21:18:00] <neeraj> sakoman: i am new at ubuntu on beagleboard can you give some pointers
  1043. [21:18:15] <_av500_> 0x3467A32C4
  1044. [21:18:16] <robtow> Texas Instruments in Sunnyvale. New Android group.
  1045. [21:18:24] <sakoman> neeraj: what kind of pointers?
  1046. [21:18:30] <_av500_> there is a "new android"?
  1047. [21:18:54] <robtow> _av500 - there are always new Android releases. LOL
  1048. [21:19:06] <_av500_> tell me about it
  1049. [21:19:12] <robtow> What is "new" is TI has a dedicated ten person Android group in Sunnyvale.
  1050. [21:19:28] <neeraj> sakoman: i am confused in environmental setup
  1051. [21:19:48] <Jefro> robtow - kayaking in Mendo? am I remembering that right?
  1052. [21:20:30] <robtow> jefro - yes; cottage on the headlands of the Navaro River for a week; two person sea kyak... and we returned to some fave places.
  1053. [21:20:32] <sakoman> neeraj: not sure what you mean by that, could you be more specific?
  1054. [21:20:51] <robtow> Also did some underwater photography and movies, and some ambient audio recording in sea caves.
  1055. [21:21:20] <Jefro> rowtow - fantastic, good weekend for it. underwater photog sounds fantastic, would love to see.
  1056. [21:21:38] <neeraj> sakoman: i downloaded the linux-image-2.6.35.2-l0_1.0lucid_armel.deb using rootstock
  1057. [21:21:45] <Jefro> there has been a blue whale back and forth across the navarro river inlet for the past week or so, according to some birders who go there a lot.
  1058. [21:22:10] <robtow> jefro - I guess we just missed that! Awesome
  1059. [21:22:25] <sakoman> neeraj: sorry, I don't use ubuntu on beagleboard, so I am afraid I can't help
  1060. [21:22:43] <neeraj> sakoman: k thankx
  1061. [21:23:43] <_av500_> robtow: have fun at new gig, if you need some insight from a consumer pov, feel free to ping me :)
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  1064. [21:25:29] <robtow> _av500 - always :-)
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  1066. [21:34:06] <koen> jkridner: as web junkie you'll like http://www.flickr.com/photos/koenkooi/4949072535/
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  1081. [22:26:03] <major> this thing has enough mixer options to be nice and confusing
  1082. [22:39:57] <emeb> major: which thing? TWL4030?
  1083. [22:41:55] <major> I suppose
  1084. [22:41:59] <major> asoc on the BB
  1085. [22:42:19] <emeb> yep - TWL4030/TPSmumblemumble
  1086. [22:42:30] <emeb> pretty hairy datasheet...
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  1088. [22:42:52] <major> took me a while of playing to just be able to hear anything from the audio
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  1090. [22:43:10] <major> ended up cat'ing the kernel uImage into /dev/audio in the background while I tweaked alsactrl
  1091. [22:43:18] <emeb> use alsamixer & start twiddling the sliders.
  1092. [22:43:28] <major> alsamixer, my bad
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  1094. [22:44:09] <emeb> install sox/play/record & you can play real music instead of random binary junk
  1095. [22:44:38] <major> I know, I just wanted to get "something"
  1096. [22:44:46] <emeb> yep - good start
  1097. [22:45:20] <emeb> playing quiet audio reveals some power supply noise unfortunately
  1098. [22:45:23] <major> really I need to get something on here to tax video and audio at the same time
  1099. [22:45:53] <emeb> mplayer?
  1100. [22:45:58] <emeb> gstreamer?
  1101. [22:47:16] <major> might go for mplayer
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