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IRC Log for 2010-09-07

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  2. [00:07:07] <djlewis> he hey :)
  3. [00:07:39] <djlewis> s/he/hey to make more sense of it
  4. [00:09:11] <rambo2_981_> emeb, where on the oe site is it?
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  6. [00:19:25] <emeb> rambo2_981_: it isn't on the OE site. You use OE to build Angstrom, which builds all the necessary tools, including gcc from source
  7. [00:19:53] <emeb> If you don't have OE setup it's easier to d/l the CS builds.
  8. [00:20:50] <emeb> but if you build Angstrom then you'll have the kernel directory too, which is needed for the kbuild of the loadable module.
  9. [00:22:27] <rambo2_981_> emeb right
  10. [00:23:42] <emeb> rambo2_981_: I do a hybrid - I use OE to build my kernel (disable the rm_work option for this so it leaves the source)
  11. [00:24:10] <emeb> but I use CS to compile since it's in a known place in my machine's filesystem
  12. [00:24:24] <emeb> (too lazy to figure out how to use the OE version)
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  17. [00:34:56] <djlewis> oh, do continue repairing my 35 year home bilt variable split pwr supply or bury it and buy a new one :(
  18. [00:35:05] <djlewis> s/do/to
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  20. [00:37:00] <prpplague> djlewis: i had the same issue with a CRT i had had for about 15 years
  21. [00:37:28] <djlewis> prpplague: o-scope?
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  23. [00:38:47] <prpplague> djlewis: naw, it was an old crt that had originally been just composite, and i had built some various i/o modules so i could do some other interfaces such as EGA and CGA
  24. [00:40:10] <djlewis> oh and I have a stack of good working 17" and 21" computer crt monitors I dont use anymore.
  25. [00:40:28] <djlewis> lining a wall in my living room
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  27. [00:42:45] <djlewis> emeb: hows things? you catching up?
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  38. [02:06:37] <emeb> djlewis: (was afk) Things going well. Caught up? never
  39. [02:07:12] <djlewis> hi emeb np, well that might be good you dont catch up
  40. [02:10:14] <emeb> djlewis: if I ever catch up... don't want to think about it. :)
  41. [02:10:46] <djlewis> thats what I figured :)
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  43. [02:16:38] <emeb> djlewis: how's the Rigol working out for you?
  44. [02:16:54] <djlewis> hehee, I havent used it yet
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  47. [02:17:25] <emeb> I've been looking around for something with a bit more BW
  48. [02:17:31] <emeb> Found this: http://www.tequipment.net/InstekGDS-1152A.html
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  50. [02:17:39] <djlewis> had big plans to reorganize my lab'shop this weekend but alas
  51. [02:18:22] <djlewis> I got to trying to wrap up some unfinished things but there are so many
  52. [02:19:53] <djlewis> hmm, 2Mpt memory/2 = 1Mpt
  53. [02:20:19] <emeb> I assume that means you get 2Mpt if you're only using 1 chl
  54. [02:20:30] <djlewis> yep
  55. [02:21:07] <emeb> you got yours from that reseller, right?
  56. [02:21:16] <djlewis> I see they are comparing it to a nbottom feeder competitor
  57. [02:21:28] <djlewis> yes I did and they have a good rep
  58. [02:22:01] <emeb> cool - free shipping IIRC
  59. [02:24:49] <djlewis> I see they achieve 15oMhz bwad width
  60. [02:25:08] <djlewis> 150Mhz band width, argh
  61. [02:25:11] <emeb> yep - that's what I had my eye on.
  62. [02:25:19] <emeb> I've got a good 60MHz analog scope
  63. [02:25:36] <emeb> so more BW would justify an upgrade.
  64. [02:26:23] <emeb> Cost is about 2.5x the Rigol 50MHz, so seems like a good tradeoff.
  65. [02:26:34] <djlewis> Real-Time Sample Rate 1GSa/s maximum
  66. [02:26:46] <emeb> Notice that it won't write to USB flashdrives - but does have an SD slot
  67. [02:26:47] <djlewis> nevefmind that
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  70. [02:31:00] <djlewis> emeb: that is a sexy looking scope. only prob, after using much larger scopes one might feel like they are pulling a toy out of the box.
  71. [02:31:50] <djlewis> and you get a free digital wattt meter
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  73. [02:32:53] <djlewis> I prdered monday morning with free shipping and had it in 48 hrs
  74. [02:33:09] <emeb> yeah - all the little DSOs seem too light for what they do/cost
  75. [02:34:21] <djlewis> what happened to the old HP and Tek steel models with turbine cooling fans and capable of heating a three room office ;)
  76. [02:34:58] <emeb> buddy of mine had an ancient tube Tek on a trolley. You could read by the filament glow...
  77. [02:35:45] <djlewis> quite the CRO in its day
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  79. [02:38:43] <djlewis> so, the amazon kindle has a arm jtag port
  80. [02:38:49] <emeb> kewl
  81. [02:39:08] <emeb> how hard is it to get at?
  82. [02:39:36] <djlewis> http://www.eevblog.com/2010/09/03/eevblog-109-amazon-kindle-3-3ggsmwifi-6-teardown/
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  85. [02:45:55] <emeb> taek it apaaaht!
  86. [02:46:40] <djlewis> if we can get past his whiny voice ;)
  87. [02:47:09] <funkathustra> it also has a 1.8V serial connection
  88. [02:47:26] <funkathustra> that gives you a shell prompt if I heard correctly.
  89. [02:47:32] <funkathustra> no JTAG needed.
  90. [02:47:37] <emeb> nice...
  91. [02:47:51] <funkathustra> and the port is accessible without taking it apart.
  92. [02:47:53] <funkathustra> it's just on the side
  93. [02:48:27] <djlewis> has power on teh board and probing around with a knife blade
  94. [02:49:01] <emeb> $189 for the GSM version - not a bad price for all the features
  95. [02:49:14] <emeb> s/gsm/3g/
  96. [02:49:15] <djlewis> the power switch spring looks like a disaster waiting to happen
  97. [02:52:56] <emeb> does seem kinda fragile
  98. [02:53:29] <emeb> WM codec
  99. [02:55:24] <emeb> arphid - hmmm. Big Jeff is watching you...
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  107. [03:26:41] <djlewis> well, i'm fading after three long nights of astronomy
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  109. [03:27:21] <djlewis> gn all
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  117. [03:59:13] <robincao> Has anyone ever used OpenGL ES extension GL_OES_standard_derivatives on beagle?
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  121. [04:21:54] <hitlin37> how much is the overhead involved if i call a function(to be executed in DSP) from arm,several times in my app.any idea
  122. [04:26:21] <emeb> write some test code - measure it?
  123. [04:31:14] <_av500_> emeb: rule #3?
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  125. [04:46:24] <MostAwesomeDude> win 24
  126. [04:46:28] <MostAwesomeDude> Dammit!
  127. [04:46:48] <emeb> ??
  128. [04:48:18] * twinsen (~aa028466@94-21-185-78.pool.digikabel.hu) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
  129. [04:48:26] <emeb> _av500_: which list of rules is that from?
  130. [04:53:46] <_av500_> http://26-26-54.hardwarebug.org/?id=30
  131. [04:55:40] <emeb> indeed
  132. [04:56:28] <emeb> one of my favorites - since high-school, 30 years ago...
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  135. [05:00:33] <rupesh> HI,I have recently got the new beagle board C4 rev , I have installed tool chain for this .. but not able to point to source code for u-boot, linux kernel for this
  136. [05:00:44] <rupesh> can any one please point me to there
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  138. [05:02:20] <emeb> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/simplified-development-setup
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  143. [05:07:46] <rupesh> I am fairly new to gitorious, can anyone please tell me how to download code from gitorious
  144. [05:09:16] <emeb> git clone git://gitorious.org/angstrom/angstrom-setup-scripts.git
  145. [05:11:26] <rupesh> it says connection refused
  146. [05:11:29] <rupesh> actual message is :- Initialized empty Git repository in /home/user/OMAP/beagleboard-validation-x-load/angstrom-setup-scripts/.git/ gitorious.org[0: 87.238.52.168]: errno=Connection refused fatal: unable to connect a socket (Connection refused)
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  151. [05:12:53] <_av500_> rupesh: talk to your sysadmin
  152. [05:13:46] <rupesh> OH .. OK, is it problem with the NW set up ..?
  153. [05:14:34] <rupesh> but i understand i was able to download other git code using snapshot option
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  156. [05:24:08] <emeb> "I've frequently not been on boats."
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  161. [05:33:27] <_av500_> rupesh: if you did git before, then i have no idea
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  163. [05:33:48] <_av500_> maybe retry
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  179. [06:11:55] <kblin> _av500_: downloading git snapshots usually works via the gitweb web frontend, where you can get a tarball of a given revision (if that's enabled in gitweb)
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  182. [06:15:37] <_av500_> ah
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  184. [06:26:19] * _av500_ is bored by the BBubuntu mailing list
  185. [06:26:31] <kblin> bubuntu?
  186. [06:27:57] <_av500_> no, BBuntu, ubuntu on the beagleboard which is 90$ of the ml atm...
  187. [06:28:00] <_av500_> err, 90%
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  193. [06:46:37] <dm8tbr> _av500_: what, no android porting anymore?
  194. [06:47:10] <mru> that was too hard
  195. [06:47:18] <mru> now they're porting ubuntu instead
  196. [06:47:34] <dm8tbr> oh, right, because ubuntu is easy and all
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  199. [06:51:55] <mru> the wiki said so
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  209. [07:22:37] <_koen_> good morning all
  210. [07:24:34] <ynezz> morning
  211. [07:25:06] <_koen_> ynezz: the eeprom is supposed to be on i2c2 as a standard, moving it to another bus breaks that
  212. [07:25:44] <ynezz> so it's wrong standard than :)
  213. [07:26:19] <_av500_> gm _koen_
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  215. [07:28:10] <ynezz> koen: what's the point of availability of i2c3 on J5 than? Just to not use it?
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  217. [07:33:19] <_koen_> you can use it for DDC
  218. [07:34:29] <ynezz> what's the point of DDC, if you've have 7" + touch already connected to board
  219. [07:35:36] <ynezz> I even see here i2c3 http://linuxinstruments.com/brainmux/
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  221. [07:37:50] <ynezz> I can't imagine you've zippy and LCD on the BB and you'll want the users to solder i2c from LCD board to expansion just to have eeprom on i2c2
  222. [07:39:22] <ynezz> and we're not talking about big change here, it's maybe 2-3 lines of additional code to probe i2c3
  223. [07:44:28] <_koen_> zippy has eeprom on i2c2
  224. [07:44:41] <ynezz> because it uses different connector
  225. [07:44:46] <ynezz> expansion one
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  227. [07:44:55] <_koen_> no, because they followed the standard
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  230. [07:45:35] <ynezz> what kind of standard is that? :)
  231. [07:45:52] <mru> the kind that people follow
  232. [07:45:54] <mru> highly unusual
  233. [07:46:42] <ynezz> ok, you have 3 expansions connectors available
  234. [07:46:53] <ynezz> i2c is on two of them
  235. [07:47:08] <mru> and that bothers you?
  236. [07:47:16] <ynezz> one is expansion with i2c2 and second one is with LCD signals with i2c3
  237. [07:47:39] <_av500_> and?
  238. [07:47:54] <ynezz> and I would like to use jp4/jp5 only to connect my LCD board
  239. [07:48:25] <ynezz> but there's no i2c2 available
  240. [07:48:56] <ynezz> and just to follow that standard it would mean to solder the i2c bus specialy to expansion header just to be on i2c2
  241. [07:49:11] <_av500_> and that is unacceptable?
  242. [07:50:08] <ynezz> ok, you've zippy already connected to BB on one side
  243. [07:50:38] <ynezz> so you'll need to solder two wires manually, just to follow that standard
  244. [07:51:29] <ynezz> if you can solder the wires, you probably can patch u-boot and kernel and you don't need such autodetection feature and eeprom at all...
  245. [07:53:27] <ynezz> what's better, let user solder 2 wires or change the "standard" little bit and change the code instead?
  246. [07:54:06] <mru> what's better, pleasing you or pleasing everybody else?
  247. [07:54:06] <_av500_> ynezz: ? connect your lcd boardon the other side, why solder by hand?
  248. [07:54:43] <_koen_> the standard could be expanded to probe i2c3 as well as i2c2, but it can't be changed to only probe i2c3 as you are implying
  249. [07:54:54] <ynezz> no i'm not
  250. [07:55:05] <ynezz> as I see it, it should be changed to something like "i2c bus #2 for expansion boards, i2c bus #3 for LCD boards if i2c bus #2 isn't possible"
  251. [07:55:11] <_koen_> but for LCDs, just make the eeprom fake EDID
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  253. [07:55:41] <dm8tbr> hmm is the kernel EXTRAVERSION available in an variable for an bitbake recipe?
  254. [07:55:48] <dm8tbr> my psfreedom recipe is almost done
  255. [07:56:04] <_koen_> why does a kernelmodule need to know about extraversion?
  256. [07:56:12] <_koen_> just 'inherit module' should work
  257. [07:56:16] <dm8tbr> no idea, the original makefile used that
  258. [07:56:36] <dm8tbr> well I'll just send you the bb now and you can have a look
  259. [07:56:57] <_av500_> maybe its an extra module?
  260. [07:57:13] <ynezz> _av500_: because as I said, I'll use J4/J5 2x20 pin headers with LCD signals to connect my LCD board and there's i2c3 available
  261. [07:57:58] <ynezz> _av500_: to follow the standard it would mean to manually solder two wires to expansion just to have eeprom on i2c2
  262. [07:58:19] <ynezz> _av500_: i2c2 is available on J3/Expansion
  263. [07:58:59] <_av500_> why npand why not add a 2pin header for j3?
  264. [07:59:04] <_av500_> oops
  265. [08:01:05] <ynezz> yes, this is definitely possible but I can't clearly imagine that
  266. [08:01:44] <ynezz> you've already something soldered in J3 if you've zippy board for example
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  268. [08:02:06] <_av500_> on the same side?
  269. [08:02:14] <ynezz> no, on oposite
  270. [08:02:36] <ynezz> s/oposite/opposite/
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  272. [08:02:37] <_av500_> solder pins that go through :)
  273. [08:02:43] <ynezz> :)
  274. [08:07:47] <ynezz> koen: sorry, what do you mean by "fake EDID"? What for? For raw LCD with one resolution?
  275. [08:08:03] <htns> is the 34 pin camera interface on beagle-xm something that is compatible with typical CMOS or CCD sensors?
  276. [08:08:28] <htns> or would it require something to have a cpu on it like the leopard imaging dm355 board?
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  278. [08:09:51] <mru> it accepts the same camera modules as the leopard board
  279. [08:11:02] <hvaibhav> htns: i don't think it is compatible, it accepts Leopard imaging camera module interface (Not all)
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  281. [08:17:41] <robincao> I'm working on a OpenGL ES application on beagle, and encounter issues working with an OpenGL extension:GL_OES_standard_derivatives.
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  285. [08:24:39] <jacekowski> robincao: have you tried google?
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  288. [08:27:53] <htns> hvaibhav, thx for that but i'm still confused. does that mean i have to have another cpu to interface with a cmos sensor before that can be interfaced with beagle xm? or can i just have a board with some passive components and maybe just level translators to talk between beagle xm and a typical cmos sensor like lm9627
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  290. [08:29:31] <robincao> jacekowski: yeah, i have searched for it, but without any relevent results. So i hope someone here may encounter the same issue.
  291. [08:31:09] <hvaibhav> I don't think you need a processor to interface to BeagleXM
  292. [08:32:04] <hvaibhav> if you look at the camera module which i am talking about it barely provides interface connector comaptible to beagle Xm Header
  293. [08:32:27] <hvaibhav> the sensor i tested is VGA MT9V113
  294. [08:33:59] <robincao> i have posted a message in TI forum: http://e2e.ti.com/support/dsp/omap_applications_processors/f/447/t/63165.aspx
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  314. [10:35:17] <rsv> i am trying to use the latest kernel 2.6.36rc3. when i do a omap3_defconfig; i get the following ""arch/x86/configs/omap3_defconfig"?
  315. [10:35:49] <rsv> how do i make the kernel take the file from arch/arm/configs and not from arch/x86/configs?
  316. [10:37:27] <rsv> got it, we need to export ARCH=arm
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  324. [11:09:28] <hatten|> htns: I don't own a BB yet but I think you should be able to connect most CMOS cameras directly. As far as I can see, the header is connected to the DM3770 Camera ISI module
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  333. [11:24:44] <Crofton_|work> koen, use my balister.org address
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  336. [11:25:06] <Crofton_|work> also there is a davinci patch ibn the ggdb2 patch
  337. [11:27:34] <htns> thanks hatten| and hvaibhav
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  339. [11:30:02] <orkun> hi guys I have a question about ethernet over USB
  340. [11:30:15] <orkun> my host machine has ubuntu 9.04
  341. [11:30:28] <orkun> and my beagle has linux2.6
  342. [11:30:30] <orkun> distro
  343. [11:30:50] <orkun> any I want to use the OTG port
  344. [11:30:59] <orkun> between host asand beagle
  345. [11:31:14] <orkun> to connect my beagle to internet
  346. [11:31:24] <orkun> how i can do it
  347. [11:31:26] <orkun> ?
  348. [11:31:31] <av500> hmm, does 9.04 support 2.6?
  349. [11:31:44] <orkun> yes
  350. [11:32:11] <mru> 9 > 2
  351. [11:32:40] <orkun> ?? found some cross- compiling DVSDK
  352. [11:32:44] <orkun> from texas
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  354. [11:40:29] <koen> Crofton_|work: but do you agree with the change?
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  357. [11:41:10] <koen> Crofton_|work: if I remove the subpage?
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  359. [11:41:36] <orkun> has anyone solution
  360. [11:41:37] <orkun> ?
  361. [11:42:47] <av500> have you googled it?
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  364. [11:48:39] <hatten|> htns: any idea which CMOS chip you'll be using? I have interfaced a Micron/Aptina chip on an other platform, had a lot of problems..
  365. [11:51:10] <av500> so?
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  368. [11:58:33] <Crofton_|work> koen, yes ...
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  370. [11:58:43] <Crofton_|work> I want to read about gdb2/3 first though
  371. [11:58:50] <Crofton_|work> also, will this work on gcc 4.5?
  372. [11:59:44] <htns> hatten|, i'm thinking about lm9627
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  376. [12:02:10] <sefai> hi all,
  377. [12:02:49] <sefai> I want to develope my software for beagle on Ubuntu Linux,
  378. [12:03:08] <sefai> Is there a tutorial for cross-compile setup?
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  380. [12:05:15] <ogra> sefai, ask in #linaro
  381. [12:06:34] <av500> ogra: we can send all ubuntu questions to #linaro?
  382. [12:06:48] <ogra> av500, no, the cross compile ones
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  384. [12:07:00] <ogra> linaro develops cross tools on ubuntu
  385. [12:07:18] <amitk> ...and debian soon (hopefully)
  386. [12:07:29] <ogra> right
  387. [12:07:34] <av500> will there also be linux support?
  388. [12:07:37] <mru> lolinaro
  389. [12:07:48] <dm8tbr> molinari!
  390. [12:07:48] <ogra> av500, no , only for ubuntu hurd :P
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  396. [12:16:33] <kai> av500: you can port it to android, I guess
  397. [12:18:15] <rsv> in 2.6.36-rc3. there is only one defconfigs for all the boards. how will my board init functions will be called? through machine id? or should i remove the selections for all other boards except beagle?
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  404. [12:33:11] <anand_> Hi
  405. [12:33:29] <anand_> I m looking for help regarding beagle boarding booting
  406. [12:36:22] <rsv> in the new kernel, how do i select which uart i need? any ideas?
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  412. [12:51:02] <marco____> please I need help with beagleboard XM can someone help me?
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  417. [13:01:47] <sakoman> _koen_1: any ideas on a fix for the libstdc++ issue?
  418. [13:02:04] <_koen_1> yes, bug khem :)
  419. [13:02:10] <sakoman> OK :-)
  420. [13:02:28] <sakoman> hmm . . . audio seems to be broken on a top of tree build too :-(
  421. [13:03:14] <sakoman> 3 steps forward, 2 steps back . . .
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  426. [13:19:42] <Crofton> even if khem isn't the right guy, I think he would like to understand how it is broken
  427. [13:20:52] <koen> I think we merged some bits from poky, but too much
  428. [13:21:00] <koen> e.g. caught some bits of the gcc-runtime
  429. [13:21:29] <Crofton> koen, does the gdb2 patch also apply to angstrom-2010
  430. [13:22:08] <koen> it does
  431. [13:22:11] <koen> and it works
  432. [13:22:12] <Crofton> good
  433. [13:22:21] <Crofton> that was the second question
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  435. [13:23:51] <sakoman> Crofton: when will angstrom-2010 switch occur?
  436. [13:24:10] <Crofton> check with koen
  437. [13:24:18] <Crofton> I am using it know
  438. [13:24:27] <Crofton> trying to test what I can
  439. [13:24:48] <Crofton> basically trying to get testing on gcc 4.5.x
  440. [13:26:58] <koen> sakoman: switch?
  441. [13:27:04] <koen> there are parallel efforts
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  444. [13:30:18] <sakoman> koen: well, I mean when is it ready to switch to?
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  447. [13:33:19] <koen> with my TI hat on: with xdctools gets fixed to build with gcc 4.5
  448. [13:35:03] <Crofton_|work> as koen says, they both should work
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  466. [14:13:45] <PierreLuc> I'm making some headway with my beagleboard and my custom kernel. I've got musb to work but EHCI complains "ehci-omap ehci-omap.0: failed to get ehci port0 regulator". Anybody had an idea of where this is coming from?
  467. [14:14:08] <PierreLuc> (beagle board rev C4 if it's important)
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  499. [14:45:03] <joeR> morning
  500. [14:49:31] <tonu> no
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  508. [15:00:53] <joeR> I'm having a build issue with Angstrom and OE when I build virtual/kernel. I was getting an error with do_compileconfig were I found a fix over on the OE mail archive to make a folder called configs and copy the defconfig file to that folder
  509. [15:03:53] <joeR> but now I get a diffrent error "install: cannot stat `arch/arm/boot/uImage" were i found a post by Koen to "bitbake -c clean virtual/kernel"
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  511. [15:07:26] <joeR> but then I get the same do_compileconfigs error as before "Multiple configs found, building those first | cp: cannot stat '...tmp-angstrom_2008_1/work/beagleboard-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/linux-omap-psp-2.6.32-r88/configs'
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  566. [17:09:56] <djlewis> got my Blue ESR and Ringer kits ordered :)
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  568. [17:12:30] <nayan> Hi All.. I am based in chicago.. I am planning to place an order for Beagle Board XM.. How much time will it take to receive the beagle board after I place an order for it?
  569. [17:13:30] <djlewis> nayan: depends on stock and vendor
  570. [17:13:50] <djlewis> and shipping method
  571. [17:14:09] <djlewis> and catasrophic events and the moon and sun
  572. [17:14:16] <djlewis> :)
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  574. [17:15:46] <nayan> djlewis: he he.. :)
  575. [17:15:59] <nayan> djlewis: which is most preferred vendor?
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  577. [17:16:26] <djlewis> I dont say I prefer one or the other.
  578. [17:16:36] <djlewis> well I did say that ;P
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  580. [17:16:57] <nayan> djlewis: :)
  581. [17:17:00] <djlewis> you might ask them if they have it is stock or not
  582. [17:17:28] <nayan> djlewis: yeah.. I will check with them.. thanks for your inputs..
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  615. [18:06:09] <koen> jkridner: nearly finished fixing the nodejs recipe, took longer than expected
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  620. [18:15:40] <koen> sakoman, Crofton_|work: http://pastebin.com/JsKv20Dx
  621. [18:16:53] <sakoman> koen: thanks! I'll test right now
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  625. [18:22:13] <sakoman> koen: will I need to rebuild anything other than gcc?
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  627. [18:22:42] <koen> anything that needs libstdc++
  628. [18:22:59] <koen> sakoman: but since I bumped DISTRO_PR this afternoon things should work out fine
  629. [18:23:27] <sakoman> koen: OK, thanks!
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  631. [18:29:17] <Crofton> sakoman, if you were have a board that copied overo wired ethernet, does u-boot need to know this so it can change the pinmux?
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  633. [18:30:08] <sakoman> Crofton: no, shouldn't be an issue
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  635. [18:30:25] <Crofton> ok
  636. [18:32:26] <koen> Crofton, sakoman: I pushed the change, it isn't perfect, but it fixes the runtime deps
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  638. [18:44:33] <ds2> hmmm
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  640. [18:46:53] <_av500_> mmmh
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  642. [18:49:05] <sakoman> feh
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  644. [18:50:08] <mru> forward error harmonisation?
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  646. [18:52:16] <echo6> hello!
  647. [18:54:00] <echo6> just got my BB xm, boot and display is fine over hdmi, but when connecting via USB com using minicom I get some text a login prompt, but also lots of garbage
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  649. [18:55:18] <echo6> http://pastebin.com/ex9sJY28
  650. [18:55:21] <ds2> companion to FEC?
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  652. [18:55:51] <_av500_> echo6: bad cabling
  653. [18:55:56] <_av500_> or bad usb2serial
  654. [18:56:13] <echo6> thanks, thats what I hope, only cable I have atm
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  656. [19:05:25] <tharvey> koen, I was looking for speech recognition options for omap and ran across your ti-julius-demo - can you tell me anything about it? Looks like its jsut some data/config files for julius which I'm still trying to figure out how to test/use?
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  658. [19:08:28] <tharvey> or anyone have any other suggestions for speech recognition for OMAP?
  659. [19:10:20] <koen> tharvey: it is just a bunch of config files
  660. [19:10:43] <koen> the SR running on the DSP should be opensource now
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  662. [19:11:27] <tharvey> koen, the SR?
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  665. [19:13:22] <tharvey> am running 'julius -C Sample_demo.jconf -input alsa' and speaking some words from demo.dict but its not seeming to identify at all what I'm saying
  666. [19:14:26] <tharvey> koen, which speech recognition on the DSP are you referring to?
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  673. [19:20:26] <Crofton_|work> http://whatthecommit.com/
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  678. [19:25:50] <mru> are those actual commit messages?
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  682. [19:28:36] <mru> if it ain't Mr 100fps...
  683. [19:28:46] <topfs2> indeed it is :)
  684. [19:28:46] <mru> we wantz our frames
  685. [19:28:56] <_av500_> topfs2: hi
  686. [19:28:58] <topfs2> finally arrived in Canada with internet :)
  687. [19:29:08] <topfs2> _av500_, Hi
  688. [19:29:19] <mru> done any canadian cross-builds yet?
  689. [19:29:27] <mru> where in canada btw?
  690. [19:29:48] <topfs2> nope, new computer so I have like nothing here. I brought the beagle though so I hope I'll have some play with it at some point
  691. [19:29:53] <topfs2> No screen to hook it up to though :(
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  693. [19:30:28] <_av500_> topfs2: i met a little swiss guy that tried to seel me xbmc at IFA :)
  694. [19:30:36] <high-rez> they have internet in canada?
  695. [19:30:59] <topfs2> mru, I'm in Waterloo, close to toronto
  696. [19:31:08] <topfs2> high-rez, nah. I brought a cable from sweden here
  697. [19:31:19] <topfs2> I just hope noone rips it
  698. [19:31:57] <echo6> Just doing a Ubuntu install from elinux.org, darn, whatever happened to eth0? usb0 and usb1 are detected but no ethX
  699. [19:32:11] <high-rez> topfs2: Oh that makes more sense.
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  702. [19:32:28] <high-rez> topfs2: Also, Hoyker Doyker Oyker Voyker!
  703. [19:32:45] <topfs2> _av500_, serious? like in a product or just the software?
  704. [19:33:21] <ddd> how many "memTab[]" can be allocated inside Codec engine DSP side, thx
  705. [19:33:58] <_av500_> topfs2: the guy that does a tiny linux distro based on xbmc
  706. [19:34:16] <topfs2> oh elec?
  707. [19:34:17] <_av500_> and sell was not serious :)
  708. [19:34:23] <_av500_> yep, elec
  709. [19:34:38] <topfs2> I've yet to try his distro actually but it might be rather cool for embedded devices
  710. [19:34:52] <topfs2> like 50mb or so in size IIRC (without xbmc I guess)
  711. [19:35:10] <_av500_> yes
  712. [19:37:50] <mru> gotta be small to make room for xbmc
  713. [19:38:10] <topfs2> indeed :)
  714. [19:39:19] <_av500_> he was lucky and came in the 1h i was at our booth
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  716. [19:45:46] <topfs2> hehe, indeed. was he trying to promote xbmc or both?
  717. [19:45:59] <topfs2> does the linux version work on arm yet ?
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  719. [19:46:05] <topfs2> linux distro I mean
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  724. [19:54:57] <hatten||> thinking of ordering the xM, are there any known bugs/issues other than the camera port being a bit flaky?
  725. [19:55:39] <hatten||> sucks that digikey can't ship it to europe :/
  726. [19:55:56] <echo6> they do! I had mine a few days ago
  727. [19:57:42] <hatten||> really? I can't even find it, do you have the part number?
  728. [19:59:05] <hatten||> oh, if I pretend to be american I can find it
  729. [20:01:39] <jacekowski> hatten||: i ordered stuff from digikey last week
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  732. [20:08:52] <hatten||> yeah, I did too a few days ago but somehow the xM doesn't show when I go to digikey.se. If I change back to digikey.com I can find it and add it to my order
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  734. [20:09:06] <hatten||> seems to be some problems with the export regulations; http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/ea4db6642fabe94e#
  735. [20:09:22] <jacekowski> no
  736. [20:09:58] <jacekowski> hmm, that sucks
  737. [20:10:16] <jacekowski> btw. do you know that on top of that price
  738. [20:10:21] <jacekowski> on digikey site
  739. [20:10:31] <jacekowski> you will have to pay import vat
  740. [20:10:33] <jacekowski> and duty
  741. [20:11:13] <hatten||> yeah, unfortunately
  742. [20:12:05] <hatten||> I would gladly buy it from within europe but none of the sites I've found so far gives me any kind of lead time
  743. [20:14:20] <hatten||> echo6: satisfied with the board? :)
  744. [20:15:02] <echo6> Yes, just working through a few niggles..looks my com cable is broken, get corrupt characters, hdmi works fine
  745. [20:15:21] <djlewis_> echo6: straight thru cable for XM
  746. [20:15:33] <echo6> Just doing a Ubuntu install, puzzled why ethernet is not available atm, well it is via usb0 and usb1!
  747. [20:15:45] <echo6> I'm using USB pl2303
  748. [20:16:17] <echo6> I've had to use a usb wifi dongle to apt-get stuff atm
  749. [20:16:30] <djlewis_> been there
  750. [20:16:46] <djlewis_> actually I been to using a usb thumb drive :(
  751. [20:24:27] <echo6> djlewis: Did you get eth0 working on your Xm?
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  760. [20:38:43] <djlewis_> no Xm here
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  768. [21:08:48] <killring> here's a fun project http://antipastohw.blogspot.com/2010/09/how-to-make-beagleboard-elastic-r.html
  769. [21:13:10] <djlewis_> now that's just wrong....!!!
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  771. [21:13:39] <mru> g_ether networking would have been simpler
  772. [21:14:28] <killring> how can it be wrong when it feels so right?
  773. [21:14:35] <djlewis_> hehee
  774. [21:14:49] <djlewis_> its the briefcase that is bothering me :P
  775. [21:15:31] <killring> ah, that's fair. he could have built a custom plexiglass case for it with the boards neatly mounted inside
  776. [21:17:28] <killring> I've actually wondered about how a bunch of arm-class devices would stack up against an x86 from a price performance standpoint... looks like it's pretty favorable given the right workloads
  777. [21:18:17] <mru> x86 wins on price
  778. [21:18:23] <mru> arm wins on energy
  779. [21:18:38] <killring> from a raw compute standpoint?
  780. [21:19:24] <mru> why do you suppose there are no arm servers and no x86 phones?
  781. [21:19:38] <mru> yes, there are rumours about arm server chips in the making
  782. [21:19:52] <killring> there are arm servers being worked on... didn't apple buy a company that was working on that?
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  784. [21:20:56] <killring> and I believe at least one of the large 'net based companies (amazon or google or someone like that) is piloting arm-based servers to answer that very question
  785. [21:21:49] <mru> there's nothing you can go out an buy now
  786. [21:22:39] <mru> arm has only just reached the performance where it can makes sense to use for a server in certain cases
  787. [21:22:42] <hatten||> about a week ago there was a rumour going around that facebook were about to switch to ARM
  788. [21:22:51] <mru> yes, a RUMOUR
  789. [21:23:08] <hatten||> yes
  790. [21:23:21] <mru> in a few years there will no doubt be arm servers
  791. [21:23:26] <killring> it's past the rumor stage: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/ready-for-arm-based-server-chips-smooth-stone-hopes-so/38050
  792. [21:23:36] <killring> the question is if anyone is past the prototype stage
  793. [21:24:13] <mru> it's certainly not at the commodity stage
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  795. [21:24:46] <killring> agreed... there's no one I'm aware of offering an arm-based server to the general public
  796. [21:25:11] <killring> it's only been in the last 12-18 months that I've even been reading about anyone working on it seriously
  797. [21:25:21] <killring> but it's been a question mark in the back of my mind
  798. [21:26:05] <mru> for certain types of workloads a datacentre full of arm chips could be cheaper to run than x86
  799. [21:26:17] <mru> due to lower power consumption
  800. [21:26:29] <killring> yep... probably most general purpose workloads
  801. [21:26:42] <mru> but only if the compute power of each one is sufficient
  802. [21:26:56] <killring> the specialized heavy duty number crunching and i/o intensive stuff probably not so much
  803. [21:26:59] <mru> there are many loads applications where you siply need more grunt in each core
  804. [21:27:23] * mru curses laggy ssh connection
  805. [21:28:16] <killring> pa semi, that was the company I was thinking of that apple bought
  806. [21:28:32] <mru> that was years ago
  807. [21:28:50] <mru> pa semi designed their own cpu
  808. [21:29:01] <mru> nobody knows quite what apple did with them
  809. [21:29:54] <killring> yep. the military was a big customer and iirc, one of the terms of the acquisition going through would be that whatever they were getting would continue to be accessible to them
  810. [21:30:33] <mru> that just means continue making chips
  811. [21:30:43] <mru> and the didn't even have a fab so no problem there
  812. [21:30:44] <killring> I don't know if that means apple kept the lights on at part of what was formerly pa semi or licensed the tech to another company to produce
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  815. [21:30:56] <killring> yeah, they were an ip-only company
  816. [21:31:16] * jconnolly is now known as jconnolly|bbl
  817. [21:31:23] <killring> kind of weird all these ip-only companies building on top of other ip-only companies
  818. [21:33:00] <killring> arm seems pretty serious about going after the server market http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2010/08/arm-virtualization-tech-adds-more-fuel-to-server-fire.ars
  819. [21:33:22] <mru> virtualisatoin isn't only for servers
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  821. [21:33:30] <killring> (that article also references the facebook trial)
  822. [21:33:58] <mru> I don't trust anything I read on such websites
  823. [21:34:17] <mru> but yeah, there will be arm servers
  824. [21:34:31] <mru> which is entirely beside the point
  825. [21:34:54] <mru> inte still gives more computing power for per dollar
  826. [21:34:56] <killring> I'll just slap a bunch of -xm's together and call it done :-)
  827. [21:34:59] <mru> intel
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  829. [21:35:27] <mru> that assumes a workload you can distribute
  830. [21:35:53] <djlewis_> yes, fashion your server for the aplication it will provide.
  831. [21:36:09] <killring> pretty much all of the stuff I'm playing with is easily distributed
  832. [21:36:19] <mru> looking at arm servers makes sense when your power bill is getting really huge
  833. [21:36:28] <djlewis_> thats mine :(
  834. [21:36:34] <mru> someone running a couple of intel servers doesn't have that problem
  835. [21:36:42] <mru> other costs dominate there
  836. [21:37:00] <djlewis_> the IT guy ;)
  837. [21:37:04] <killring> depends on the situation
  838. [21:37:22] <mru> djlewis_: for instance
  839. [21:37:31] <mru> and the janitor
  840. [21:37:44] <mru> and rent etc etc
  841. [21:37:50] <killring> one of the reasons I got interested in the bb was that I wanted a 24x7 home server but wasn't interested in the x86 options I saw
  842. [21:38:14] <killring> the mac mini was the closest be being workable for what I wanted but is quite overpriced for what it is imo
  843. [21:38:16] <mru> i would not base anything server-like on an omap
  844. [21:38:20] <mru> it's a phone chip
  845. [21:38:26] <mru> i/o is very limited
  846. [21:38:41] <killring> so? server doesn't always mean high performance
  847. [21:39:18] <mru> the omap is great at what it does
  848. [21:39:30] <mru> but that's not anything server-like
  849. [21:40:06] <killring> again, you're making a broad assumption about what a server is which it isn't in all cases
  850. [21:40:28] <killring> server just means the server side of client-server
  851. [21:41:33] * killring knows this because he was making 'servers' out of pc's before you could buy servers
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  853. [21:55:32] <fatal-> mru: the io side is about to change as the multicore A9 is currently being pushed for desktop us
  854. [21:55:35] <hatten||> well SeaMicro is shipping atom-based servers now
  855. [21:55:35] <fatal-> use
  856. [21:55:55] <fatal-> ddr3 etc
  857. [21:57:23] <bkero> What's the TDP on that a9?
  858. [21:58:13] <fatal-> I don't know exact specs, just seen some bits here and there, probably less than 130W :)
  859. [21:59:25] <hatten||> "The Cortex-A9 power-optimized hard macro implementation delivers its peak performance of 4000 DMIPS while consuming less than 250mW per CPU when selected from typical silicon."
  860. [21:59:41] <hatten||> from arm.com
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  862. [22:05:15] <hatten||> and here are some benchmarks http://blog.linleygroup.com/2010/04/arm-outmuscles-atom-on-benchmark.html
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  864. [22:11:10] <bkero> ...what the hell is a coremark?
  865. [22:11:57] <killring> sounds like a new benchmark for multicore systems
  866. [22:12:20] <killring> new to me at least... I don't pay that much attention to artificial benchmarks
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  868. [22:15:05] <hatten||> well it's better than DMIPS ;)
  869. [22:15:18] <hatten||> but yeah benchmarks are benchmarks
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  871. [22:20:39] <djlewis_> divided mips :)
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  884. [23:00:53] <bkero> Whoo, boogmips
  885. [23:00:56] <bkero> bogomips
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  899. [23:14:36] <bparker06> anyone used gstreamer successfully on a beagleboard? (preferably with angstrom)
  900. [23:14:50] <bparker06> having problems using the DSP to decode
  901. [23:15:10] <bparker06> I'm trying to play the sample video that comes with the angstrom demo distro, "big buck bunny"
  902. [23:15:20] <bparker06> and running gstreamer gives "failed to initialize display"
  903. [23:15:25] <bparker06> but mplayer can play the video just fine
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  908. [23:28:23] <Inti> question : i'm looking to get a beagle board . most of the websites i checked have the board revision 4 and they are all backordered. is that normal? are there any website where the boards are in stock?
  909. [23:29:01] <gtk> how to check if uART2 on expansion header is working .... i am using kernel version 2.6.32
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  912. [23:30:57] <bparker06> Inti: I just got mine from digi-key yesterday
  913. [23:31:13] <Inti> bparker06: when did you place the order?
  914. [23:31:27] <bparker06> last week or so ago I think
  915. [23:32:11] <Inti> i called em today and they said its backordered and didn't know the factory lead time. ok. i'll check again. thanks
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  917. [23:40:26] <rcn-ee> Inti, ignore what they say... shipment every week..
  918. [23:44:39] <gtk> I am looking for kernel image that supports serial port on expansion header .... anyone got it working can u help me with that .. I am not able to find right kernel image
  919. [23:45:04] <Inti> rcn-ee: ok thanks :)
  920. [23:45:11] <rcn-ee> gtk, which 'expansion board'?
  921. [23:45:54] <gtk> rcn-ee: I want to used ttyS1 on expansion header ... i dont have any board
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  923. [23:46:28] <rcn-ee> gtk, well that's pretty custom, your going to have to patch board-omap3beagle.c yourself...
  924. [23:46:41] <ds2> no
  925. [23:46:58] <ds2> just pinmux it asnd all the serial ports will work
  926. [23:47:30] <rcn-ee> ds2 from userspace? never tried that..
  927. [23:47:44] <ds2> yep
  928. [23:47:50] <gtk> ds2: do u mean pinmux in kernel source code ... I dont know how to do tat .. any pointers on that
  929. [23:47:51] <ds2> pinmux it and it will work
  930. [23:48:04] <ds2> pinmux it from anywhere you like
  931. [23:48:51] <gtk> ds2: sorry i am not getting what u mean by pinmux from anywhere .. can u give me an example
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  933. [23:49:15] <ds2> gtk: I have a page on it - http://www.hy-research.com/omap3_pinmux.html
  934. [23:52:08] <ds2> the newer kernels might be diff
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