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IRC Log for 2010-09-23

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  1. [00:00:40] <emeb> glad you made it :)
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  4. [00:07:12] <djlewis> emeb: hi, just getting settled down to the new workbench :P
  5. [00:07:41] <emeb> how's that working out?
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  7. [00:09:21] <djlewis> i'm likeing the layout. the BK meter has the magnet strap and there are all kinda places to hang it
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  9. [00:09:50] <djlewis> I might add a dc jack adapter to the meter though, rated at about 150 hours on its 9v batt
  10. [00:11:53] <emeb> my BK has auto-off that saves the battery if I forget to shut it down.
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  12. [00:12:01] <emeb> times out in about 15 min or so.
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  14. [00:12:27] <emeb> batteries last a few years.
  15. [00:15:36] <djlewis> thats a good stretch. i'll see how #1 that came in it lasts
  16. [00:16:17] <djlewis> its so nice to have two ways to fairly accurately test caps
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  18. [00:19:41] <emeb> DMM and ESR meter?
  19. [00:21:21] <djlewis> yep, the BK goes to 66kuf
  20. [00:23:49] <emeb> that's a lot - .066F
  21. [00:24:09] <emeb> no good for testing car-stereo bypass caps tho. :P
  22. [00:24:58] <djlewis> i just measured about a dozen elect pulls and the accuracy is pretty good
  23. [00:25:30] <djlewis> its wierd seeing 2.145mf reading for a 2200uf ei;
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  25. [00:27:14] <emeb> yep - brain not configured for millifarads
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  27. [00:28:27] <djlewis> i watched a utube last night of a old fart tech measuring a cap with his old tube type tester using I V and a whetstone bridge.
  28. [00:29:14] <emeb> ingenuity
  29. [00:29:54] <djlewis> no it was an oldcap tester that used those features to test the cap. I used one back when I was a 12 year old wotking in a tv repair shop
  30. [00:30:42] <emeb> there's a dying art.
  31. [00:32:47] <djlewis> yeah, the level of trouble shooting is narrowing down to modular level rather than component
  32. [00:33:01] <djlewis> following the trend of the computer repair
  33. [00:33:48] <djlewis> hmm my desoldering tool wont fit my weller ec 2000 station :(
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  35. [00:35:26] <emeb> true - consider that most TVs these days have more compute power than a computer of a few years back.
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  47. [01:00:24] <djlewis> emeb: you are correct, ebay remembers me
  48. [01:02:03] <emeb> kewl
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  55. [01:51:54] <emeb> hmmmm...
  56. [01:52:31] <emeb> tried USB x-loader stuff from Ceriand - no joy
  57. [01:52:44] <emeb> kinda starts up, thinks it found something but gives up
  58. [01:56:11] <djlewis> bummer
  59. [01:58:27] <emeb> I'm sure I did something dumb.
  60. [01:58:47] <emeb> good news is that direct booting from MLO to kernel works
  61. [01:59:09] <emeb> bypassing u-boot speeds things up, simplifies setup.
  62. [02:02:23] <djlewis> BK measures 10Mhz and 20Mhz ttl oscillators rock solid
  63. [02:02:33] <djlewis> kills xtals
  64. [02:03:36] <emeb> 'kills' ?
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  66. [02:04:46] <djlewis> yeah, like a 12mHz xtal on a processor
  67. [02:05:09] <emeb> does it damage them or just not test them?
  68. [02:05:09] <djlewis> direct connection to either leg kills oscillattion
  69. [02:05:23] <djlewis> hard to kill quartz
  70. [02:05:28] <emeb> ah - shuts them down if measured in circuit
  71. [02:05:37] <djlewis> yep
  72. [02:05:42] <emeb> not surprising - they're very high impedance devices
  73. [02:06:06] <emeb> can't take much capacitive load
  74. [02:06:19] <djlewis> every proc needs a clock out pin
  75. [02:06:32] <djlewis> or use i can use my new DSO :)
  76. [02:06:37] <djlewis> that works well
  77. [02:06:44] <emeb> that's the right tool for the job
  78. [02:07:32] <djlewis> reading up on ebay seller costs, they get ya every which way.
  79. [02:08:03] <djlewis> sell something for a dollar and it might cost ya ;)
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  81. [02:11:28] <emeb> yep - them and their buddy paypal
  82. [02:11:36] <emeb> nickle & dime
  83. [02:12:05] <emeb> surprised paypal doesn't automatically debit a fee from my balance every month...
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  92. [02:40:52] <DDD> Hello
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  94. [02:48:49] <andre_> Hello
  95. [02:48:51] <djlewis> wazzup
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  97. [02:50:50] <andre_> I am new to Beagle Board, and need some advise of which base is easier to build, get started with for the Beagle Board XM.
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  99. [02:51:53] <andre_> djLewis, any advise?
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  101. [02:54:44] <djlewis> not really, I mostly use pre built images
  102. [02:54:59] <andre_> from where?
  103. [02:55:19] <djlewis> you can read all about the beagleboard starting at beagleboard.org
  104. [02:56:07] <andre_> OK, I did... but there is lots of stuff there... and I got here, to get some specific :-)
  105. [02:56:22] <djlewis> what is your ultimate goal?
  106. [02:56:42] <djlewis> waht are you wanting to do?
  107. [02:57:08] <andre_> There are several builds: Debian based, Ubuntu based, and now, Maemo, Android, Angstrom, gentoo.... !!
  108. [02:57:19] <djlewis> yes
  109. [02:57:43] <djlewis> all come ready built or you can setup a toolchain and build them yourself
  110. [02:57:45] <andre_> My "ultimate goal" is to write devices drivers, in other word low level and kernel stuff.
  111. [02:57:58] <djlewis> you do need a toohchain then
  112. [02:58:02] <djlewis> toolchain
  113. [02:58:14] <djlewis> have you read about OE and bitbake yet?
  114. [02:58:23] <andre_> no!
  115. [02:58:55] <djlewis> a good toolchain is codesorcery
  116. [02:58:59] <djlewis> spelled wrong
  117. [02:59:22] <andre_> Yes, I already got this one.
  118. [02:59:37] <andre_> (CodeSourcy)
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  121. [03:01:44] <andre_> I am now getting a git clone (a build) from "alwaysInovating" but I have no idea if it is a good place to start!
  122. [03:01:59] <djlewis> emeb: i am procrastinating on board repair until i get the antistatic mat friday
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  127. [03:02:30] <djlewis> i am no help with source trees
  128. [03:03:18] <andre_> OK, you did your best.
  129. [03:03:21] <andre_> Thanks!
  130. [03:03:32] <djlewis> iwouldnt say that but ok
  131. [03:04:21] <emeb> djlewis: no sense rushing and possibly frying stuff...
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  133. [03:04:26] <andre_> Well, too much info, is just as difficult to deal with than no info: a needle in a haystack...
  134. [03:04:50] <djlewis> andre_: yes
  135. [03:05:15] <djlewis> emeb: no, I am really procrastinating :) not much of a static issue here in the south
  136. [03:05:31] <emeb> but it's a good excuse
  137. [03:05:53] <djlewis> dont need one, I only answer to a higher being and myself
  138. [03:06:20] <emeb> that's a good place to be.
  139. [03:06:24] <andre_> in the south, means where exactly? (Marseille, Mobile, San Diego, etc...)
  140. [03:06:41] <djlewis> oh, near Little ROck Arkansas, USA
  141. [03:06:43] <ds2> always use source to start with
  142. [03:06:50] <ds2> preferably, the L-O tree
  143. [03:07:23] <andre_> I am in CA, and never been there! I only know a bit of Tx, AL in the south....
  144. [03:07:35] <emeb> ds2: got my filters working - sorta
  145. [03:07:42] <ds2> emeb: the IIR ones?
  146. [03:07:45] <emeb> yep
  147. [03:07:55] <ds2> and you get something other then 0xffff outputted? ;)
  148. [03:07:56] <emeb> DSP library needed the feedback coeffs inverted
  149. [03:08:32] <emeb> trouble is it's hard to do good audio filters with only 16-bit math (in a dsPIC)
  150. [03:08:32] <ds2> this has me wondering... are IIR/FIR filters both linear phase?
  151. [03:08:48] <emeb> FIR filters are usually designed for linear phase
  152. [03:08:55] <emeb> but can be designed for minimum phase
  153. [03:09:02] <emeb> IIR filters are usually not linear phase
  154. [03:09:13] <emeb> but you can design allpass phase correctors for them
  155. [03:09:22] <ds2> I see
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  157. [03:09:34] <ds2> can either of these be designed to do exactly 90deg phase shifts?
  158. [03:09:41] <ds2> hilbert transform (?)
  159. [03:09:45] <emeb> yes - both can
  160. [03:09:54] <emeb> I've done it both ways.
  161. [03:09:58] <emeb> FIR for RF stuff
  162. [03:10:01] <emeb> IIR for audio
  163. [03:10:49] <ds2> just got a wild idea about doing SSB detection with quadratures and balanced mixers
  164. [03:11:24] <emeb> That's a fairly common application for these things
  165. [03:11:32] <djlewis> andre_: Angstrom might be easiest to work in
  166. [03:11:58] <andre_> OK, got that! Thanks.
  167. [03:12:10] <djlewis> more users
  168. [03:12:13] <andre_> Is it the one you are using?
  169. [03:12:15] <ds2> I see... wonder if the DSP on the beagle can keep up doing SSB detection at ~1-2MHz sample rate (digital IF replacement for a 455KHz system)
  170. [03:12:28] <djlewis> andre_: yes, several versions
  171. [03:12:56] <djlewis> andre_: i did install and have used OE and Bitbake some
  172. [03:13:01] <emeb> ds2: maybe - depends on how you plan to get the samples into the omap
  173. [03:13:08] <djlewis> andre_: I am no authority on it though
  174. [03:13:19] <ds2> why, through the McBSP funnel of course :D
  175. [03:13:27] <djlewis> that is great for building a fs
  176. [03:13:49] <ds2> nix that, the McBSP don't run fast enuff
  177. [03:13:59] <djlewis> andree and when it is installes and populated you ahve all the current sources and recipies available to you
  178. [03:14:11] <emeb> McBSP can go >20Mbps
  179. [03:14:13] <djlewis> andre_: ^^^
  180. [03:14:30] <ds2> as a slave or a master?
  181. [03:14:34] <andre_> Bitbake will do that?
  182. [03:14:55] <emeb> Spec suggests either
  183. [03:14:58] <djlewis> bitbake takes the recipies and cooks up the task
  184. [03:15:01] <ds2> Hmmm
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  186. [03:15:20] <emeb> so you could get ~1Msps w/ 16-bit ADC
  187. [03:15:27] <djlewis> andre_: it simplifies over using makefiles
  188. [03:15:50] <andre_> Sounds pretty good. so I wll get Bitbake, OE, Code sourcery Now one more question.
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  190. [03:16:42] <andre_> I have Fedora, is that adequate, or will Bitbake etc... be only debian packages?
  191. [03:16:54] <djlewis> andre_: you might ask if Code sourcery and OE/Bitbake play well together
  192. [03:17:13] <emeb> andre_: I run OE/Bitbake on Fedora 11 & 13
  193. [03:17:17] <andre_> I am glad "I asked :-)"
  194. [03:17:17] <djlewis> OE/Bitbake builds for your target
  195. [03:17:57] <andre_> Great I use Fedora 13, only at this time (a great distro!).
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  197. [03:18:40] <emeb> works for me
  198. [03:20:58] * topfs2 (~topfs2@xbmc/staff/topfs2) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
  199. [03:21:28] <emeb> ds2: looking at this part for an RF front-end: http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/afedri8201.html
  200. [03:21:44] <emeb> NRFND tho
  201. [03:23:32] <ds2> CS plays fine
  202. [03:24:22] <ds2> emeb: looks reasonable... even a built in NCO
  203. [03:24:46] <emeb> yep - NCO, tuning, filters, decimation
  204. [03:24:58] <emeb> setting it up requires some fore-thought
  205. [03:25:00] <ds2> doesn't say on the webpage how high the NCO goes though
  206. [03:25:28] <emeb> pretty sure it'll go to Fs/2 - 40MHz max
  207. [03:26:22] <andre_> djlewis: I have found and isnatlle bitbake, but could not find OE, any idea?
  208. [03:26:43] <ds2> 40MHz isn't bad. been wanting to build a DC to 30MHz all modes receiver for decades now
  209. [03:27:07] <andre_> djlewis: I have found and installed bitbake, but could not find OE, any idea?
  210. [03:27:10] <djlewis> andre_: if you follow the beginners wiki it will lead you to how to setup
  211. [03:27:17] <andre_> good !
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  214. [03:29:18] <andre_> Thanks djlewis.
  215. [03:29:29] <djlewis> sure thing
  216. [03:29:37] <emeb> ds2: serial output may be compatible w/ McBSP
  217. [03:30:08] <ds2> so many ideas, so little time
  218. [03:30:29] <ds2> there are probally alternatives using parts from minicircuits
  219. [03:31:13] <emeb> yep - go analog
  220. [03:32:44] <emeb> time to shut this one down...
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  228. [03:49:24] <thurbad> suckage... my second beagle board just broke
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  230. [03:49:57] <djlewis> hmm did ya kick it into the bushes?
  231. [03:50:24] <thurbad> no, I unplugged the audio out.. and the connector stayed connected to the jack
  232. [03:50:50] <djlewis> oh, that just broke your audio connection
  233. [03:51:11] <thurbad> not bricked broke, but I need to test audio stuff tonight
  234. [03:51:26] <djlewis> hmm
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  236. [03:51:54] <djlewis> Yeah those surface mnt connectiors are not so tough
  237. [03:52:24] <SAn> thurbad: couldnt you stream the audio throw lan?
  238. [03:52:37] <djlewis> well, board adhesion anyway
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  240. [03:53:17] <thurbad> don't think so, I need to make sure the audio format I have is playing through the onboard sound system
  241. [03:53:42] <thurbad> I've been having problems with 48kHz samples
  242. [03:54:31] <SAn> thurbad: do you know if jackd works?
  243. [03:54:47] <thurbad> not so much
  244. [03:55:48] <SAn> i read at the mail list that it doesnt work for record but i dont tried it myself
  245. [03:55:50] <thurbad> or at least I don't know if it does or not
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  252. [04:23:05] <thurbad> damn there's not even any beagle's in stock at digikey, xm or otherwise
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  258. [04:37:00] <_av500_> sellin like hotcakes
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  260. [04:45:31] <ds2> Hmmm
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  265. [04:52:36] <thurbad> kinda feel bad buying another C4 beagleboard.. but I guess I'm kind of stuck with it for now
  266. [04:52:53] <thurbad> anyone interested in selling one :P
  267. [05:03:59] <kblin> hmm, cake
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  277. [05:18:49] <_av500_> thurbad: if it suits your needs, why not stay with c4?
  278. [05:21:55] <thurbad> because I'd rather get an xm for not much more.. but I need the c4 for work purposes :/
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  282. [05:44:18] <ynezz> thurbad: I think, that mouser have C4 in stock
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  284. [05:46:00] * thurbad goes to check
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  286. [05:50:03] <thurbad> hmm, they have them in stock but the image they're showing isn't a C4
  287. [05:50:36] <ynezz> :)
  288. [05:51:10] <ynezz> and what's that? iphone?
  289. [05:52:04] <thurbad> C4 is the current revision of the beagleboard
  290. [05:52:48] <ynezz> I know
  291. [05:53:00] <thurbad> they show a C3, and something so ancient it doesn't have dvi or high speed usb ports
  292. [05:53:24] <ynezz> no it's c4
  293. [05:53:45] <ynezz> there's only usb otg port on c4
  294. [05:54:14] <ynezz> there's hdmi
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  296. [05:54:23] <ynezz> on that picture
  297. [05:54:36] <ynezz> http://cz.mouser.com/images/beagleboard/images/landingpagetibeagleboard.jpg
  298. [05:55:23] <thurbad> ??? -> <ynezz> there's only usb otg port on c4
  299. [05:55:42] <thurbad> there's otg and high speed on C4
  300. [05:56:30] <ynezz> ah, right, there's
  301. [05:56:33] <ynezz> sorry :)
  302. [05:56:57] <ynezz> http://cz.mouser.com/beagleboard/
  303. [05:57:02] <ynezz> it's better picture
  304. [05:57:18] <ynezz> you can write them and ask If it's c4
  305. [05:58:08] <_av500_> it is c4
  306. [05:58:13] <_av500_> c3 sold out long ago
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  308. [05:58:22] <_av500_> i guess they did not update the pic
  309. [05:58:26] <ynezz> yep
  310. [05:58:41] <thurbad> ok, just want to be extra sure ~.~
  311. [05:59:19] <ynezz> If you're from EU, I'm buying from them http://www.dfcdesign.cz/en/shop/cpu-moduly/omap/beagleboard-c4
  312. [05:59:34] <thurbad> nope, I'm in the US
  313. [06:00:07] <ynezz> specialcomputing is out of stock?
  314. [06:01:43] <thurbad> yep
  315. [06:02:25] <thurbad> plus they want 33% over market price
  316. [06:02:49] <thurbad> and for your extra $50 they trow in a $30 case
  317. [06:03:18] <ynezz> added value :)
  318. [06:03:43] <thurbad> if they had it in stock I mght be tempted.. I need one immediately
  319. [06:03:58] <thurbad> /mght/might/
  320. [06:04:34] <ynezz> why not mouser, than?
  321. [06:04:43] <thurbad> probably will go with mouser
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  336. [06:30:22] <akumar> ipk for gst-plugin-mpegtsmux (arm7a) is not available on the http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo
  337. [06:30:35] <akumar> where to find gst-plugin-mpegtsmux ipk.
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  394. [08:28:54] <koen> akumar: have you tried doing 'opkg install gst-plugin-mpegtsmux' ?
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  396. [08:48:12] <_av500_> BASIC ftw!
  397. [08:48:51] <koen> Qbasic
  398. [08:49:31] <mru> I can haz teh arm codes plz
  399. [08:50:29] <_av500_> thou can hath thy BASICS codez
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  401. [09:01:44] <Zubair> hello to all
  402. [09:02:50] <Zubair> The problem with my using the beagleboard for the very first time, still persists
  403. [09:02:56] <Zubair> I had copied the files
  404. [09:03:21] <Zubair> but nothing on the terminal screen
  405. [09:03:32] <Zubair> plz can someone tell me how to do it
  406. [09:03:50] <Zubair> Actually its part of my final year project
  407. [09:03:53] <Zubair> plz
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  411. [09:33:36] <jacekowski> what sort of cable are you using
  412. [09:33:39] <jacekowski> make photo
  413. [09:33:42] <jacekowski> or something
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  417. [09:39:10] <Zubair> using BD9
  418. [09:39:26] <Zubair> DB-9 female to Host (PC)
  419. [09:39:43] <Zubair> Beagleboard (RS232) to DB-9
  420. [09:41:24] <jacekowski> and how is it connected?
  421. [09:41:34] <Zubair> 3 wires
  422. [09:41:40] <Zubair> RX, TX and GND
  423. [09:41:56] <jacekowski> pin numbers
  424. [09:42:11] <Zubair> wait a sec
  425. [09:45:16] <Zubair> Beagleboard 2,3,5 with DB-9 2,3,5
  426. [09:45:25] <jacekowski> wrong
  427. [09:45:39] <Zubair> why
  428. [09:45:41] <jacekowski> 2,3,5 with 3,2,5
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  430. [09:46:07] <jacekowski> because that's what it says in manual
  431. [09:46:10] <jacekowski> and everywhere
  432. [09:46:20] <Zubair> wait a minute
  433. [09:46:29] <Zubair> let me check via multimeter
  434. [09:46:36] <jacekowski> http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#RS232
  435. [09:47:36] <jacekowski> .... you may need a 9-Pin NullModem cable ....
  436. [09:47:38] <Zubair> O actully with the female DB-9 its ok
  437. [09:47:46] <Zubair> i was refering to male DB-9
  438. [09:47:57] <jacekowski> NullModem cable
  439. [09:48:00] <jacekowski> with crossover
  440. [09:48:20] <jacekowski> tx on bb goes to rx on pc and tx on pc goes to rx on bb
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  442. [09:48:51] <jacekowski> how you managed to get trough 2 years of university without ability to read documentation
  443. [09:49:07] <Zubair> actually I had done this right
  444. [09:49:08] <mru> that seems to be a prerequisite these days
  445. [09:49:18] <Zubair> wait wait
  446. [09:49:23] <Zubair> this I had done right
  447. [09:49:37] <Zubair> Had checked the serial connections
  448. [09:49:40] <Zubair> and thats fine
  449. [09:50:59] <jacekowski> cross them
  450. [09:51:04] <jacekowski> or link them
  451. [09:51:12] <jacekowski> and you will see that you will get something on screen
  452. [09:51:21] <jacekowski> what baud rate are you using?
  453. [09:51:41] <Zubair> 115200
  454. [09:51:51] <jacekowski> 8N1 no flow controll?
  455. [09:51:57] <Zubair> the RX of bb is connected with TX of comp
  456. [09:52:01] <Zubair> and vice versa
  457. [09:52:04] <Zubair> yeah
  458. [09:52:15] <jacekowski> ok, so power it up
  459. [09:52:22] <jacekowski> and check if you are getting anything on screen
  460. [09:52:30] <jacekowski> and if you are getting nothing
  461. [09:52:37] <Zubair> nothing comes on the screen
  462. [09:52:48] <Zubair> but after sometime the usr LEDs do turn ON
  463. [09:53:13] <jacekowski> ok, disconnect cable from beagleboard
  464. [09:53:27] <Zubair> done
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  466. [09:55:31] <Zubair> plz help me out
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  468. [09:56:24] <Zubair> copied 8 files on the bb
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  470. [09:56:30] <Zubair> from the site
  471. [09:56:36] <Zubair> what else ????
  472. [09:57:03] <koen> which files, what site?
  473. [09:57:20] <Zubair> http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleboardRevC3Validation
  474. [09:57:32] <Zubair> copy the following files on MMC
  475. [09:58:20] <jacekowski> hmm
  476. [09:58:20] <koen> Zubair: you could try the instructions at http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
  477. [09:58:23] <jacekowski> ok disconnect cable
  478. [09:58:29] <jacekowski> connect pins 2 and 3 on your cable
  479. [09:58:33] <jacekowski> on that bb side
  480. [09:58:38] <jacekowski> and type something in terminal
  481. [09:58:43] <jacekowski> you should get your text back
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  483. [10:00:14] <Zubair> I am not getting anything
  484. [10:00:32] <Zubair> but dont i have to check in the echo option
  485. [10:00:37] <Zubair> for loopback test
  486. [10:01:14] <jacekowski> no
  487. [10:01:22] <jacekowski> if you are not getting anything
  488. [10:01:26] <jacekowski> disconnect cable
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  490. [10:01:37] <jacekowski> and short pins 2 and 3 on your rs232 port
  491. [10:01:40] <jacekowski> and type something
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  494. [10:06:33] <jacekowski> do you get anything on terminal?
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  498. [10:10:15] <Zubair> wait a sec
  499. [10:10:41] <Zubair> CPU is actually in a lot of mess
  500. [10:11:04] <jacekowski> that's not a problem
  501. [10:11:08] <jacekowski> your cable/port is a problem
  502. [10:11:20] <Zubair> wait
  503. [10:11:23] <Zubair> let me check
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  506. [10:14:54] <Zubair> not getting anything
  507. [10:15:30] <Zubair> I guess I need to change the PC
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  561. [11:53:32] <chrisUSB> hi, i am experiencing USB problems on BBxm. booting androit linux with kernel 2.6.32; if i attach mouse+keyboard to the onboard USB-hub, thee boot process freezes after usb0:register 'smsc95xx'
  562. [11:54:00] <chrisUSB> without keybord the system boots; hotplugging afterwards succeeds as well
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  582. [12:57:25] <hitlin37> is it possible that a floating multiplication calculated by x86 n arm on single precision could differ slightly
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  584. [13:03:05] <mru> are you sure it's doing the exact same calculation?
  585. [13:03:15] <mru> with same rounding modes etc
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  587. [13:05:32] <hitlin37> calculation is same ,need to check modes now
  588. [13:05:44] <mru> show asm
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  594. [13:10:50] <chrisUSB> on question regarding mounting the flash on the bb; what fs you recommend with which mount options?
  595. [13:10:56] <chrisUSB> on --> one
  596. [13:13:29] <mru> ubifs
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  598. [13:13:59] <hitlin37> asm on arm side is as usual lik VMUL.F32 s0,s2,s0
  599. [13:14:18] <mru> I need to see the entire calculation
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  601. [13:15:55] <mru> preferably a small function
  602. [13:16:02] <mru> with complete asm for both arm and x86
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  604. [13:17:36] <SAn> hi!, i think i exposed the beagle to 9V :(
  605. [13:17:52] <hitlin37> if i pastebin d c code,will dat b ok,as im doing arm stuff on simulator
  606. [13:18:16] <mru> I can't say if it does the same thing without seeing asm
  607. [13:18:23] <mru> and simulators are buggy
  608. [13:18:27] <mru> all of them
  609. [13:19:25] <mru> 9V, what has the world come to
  610. [13:19:54] <mru> in the good old days, men were men and courageously applied 12V
  611. [13:20:03] <ynezz> :)
  612. [13:20:12] <djlewis> much more interesting outcome
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  614. [13:20:37] <ynezz> even some flash and smoke sometimes
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  616. [13:20:56] <SAn> i forgot to plug the adapter to lower the voltage... i am sad now, and now flash or smoke ... no party
  617. [13:21:21] <buZz> send it back for warranty ;)
  618. [13:21:32] <ynezz> or me for spare parts :p
  619. [13:21:33] <buZz> 'i have no idea what happened, it just stopped working suddenly!'
  620. [13:21:45] <ynezz> I flashed teh new Angstrom
  621. [13:21:51] <buZz> play blond, but you will lose some karma points in the way
  622. [13:22:05] <SAn> buZz: jejeje, i was playing a video and it does not work any more
  623. [13:22:10] <ynezz> good one
  624. [13:22:11] <buZz> ;)
  625. [13:22:18] <buZz> works quite often
  626. [13:22:30] <buZz> but something else will probably break soon after you do this
  627. [13:23:20] <SAn> i think it isnt so bad, some usr led blinks, but 2141 get hot
  628. [13:23:38] <buZz> maybe just the psu thats broken
  629. [13:24:05] <_roger_> mru ping!
  630. [13:24:08] <SAn> maybe, any idea to do a debug,
  631. [13:24:12] <SAn> ?
  632. [13:24:27] <ynezz> yes, validation page
  633. [13:24:41] <mru> _roger_: pong
  634. [13:24:43] <hitlin37> ok,will paste d asm for both ,2morrow morning,its late here,which mode to follow on both platform?or is there a default mode
  635. [13:24:48] <_roger_> hey man!
  636. [13:25:05] <_roger_> video wall coming together!
  637. [13:25:14] <_roger_> can you help me with netsync params syntax pls?
  638. [13:25:24] <mru> I forgot it
  639. [13:25:25] <_roger_> -T netsync:s=1:p=99 ??
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  642. [13:26:07] <djlewis> hmm, pkg left SAN PABLO, CA, US the 32st should make Memphis today.
  643. [13:26:20] <djlewis> s/32st/21st
  644. [13:26:20] <SAn> ynezz: well validation will not work, now when i plug from usb it does not power up, even the power LED is off
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  646. [13:27:34] <ynezz> SAn: congratulations, you've finished your validation in almost no time :)
  647. [13:27:41] <SAn> jejejej
  648. [13:28:01] <ynezz> clear all that dark smoke from the parts
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  650. [13:28:10] <ynezz> and send it for RMA
  651. [13:28:16] <ynezz> :]
  652. [13:28:16] <SAn> it took 5 seconds to get to the right validation page
  653. [13:29:13] <ynezz> _roger_: there's some public info available about that video wall thingie?
  654. [13:29:23] <SAn> ynezz: i am at argentina, maybe RMA isnt so simple
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  656. [13:31:03] <ynezz> it is so simple http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCdCrcaj0Lk
  657. [13:31:49] <mru> _roger_: check your email
  658. [13:34:19] <SAn> ynezz: nice video!
  659. [13:35:54] <mru> "This video contains content from Believe and Sony Music Entertainment. It is not available in your country. "
  660. [13:35:58] <mru> nice indeed
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  662. [13:38:44] <ynezz> and more to come, "This Wikileaks video is not avialable in your country. MPAA didn't approved it yet."
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  665. [13:42:36] <_roger_> mru - thanks!
  666. [13:43:55] <_roger_> 2 screens sync'd - you the man mru!!
  667. [13:44:05] <_roger_> now for the others :)
  668. [13:44:32] <mru> should be a matter of increasing the number in the script
  669. [13:44:39] <mru> and starting the slave script of course
  670. [13:45:14] <ynezz> you need to have separate cropped video for each screen? or can beagle handle the cropping on the fly?
  671. [13:45:42] <mru> some time I'll make it wait a few seconds for slaves, then proceed with however many have arrived
  672. [13:45:53] <mru> pre-cropped
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  674. [13:51:23] <ynezz> seems ideal for videowalls http://www.gumstix.com/overview-stagecoach.html
  675. [13:51:59] <_roger_> mru - yep, my issue with the other screens is not technical :) - gotta burn some more sd cards...
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  677. [13:52:34] <mru> ynezz: apart from the lack of hdmi...
  678. [13:53:06] <ynezz> there's hdmi expansion
  679. [13:53:17] <ynezz> but it wouldn't fit, right
  680. [13:53:42] <ynezz> and make it quite pricey
  681. [13:54:29] <mru> I don't see any way to get hdmi off the overos while mounted on that
  682. [13:55:23] <ynezz> maybe some special hdmi overo :)
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  685. [14:01:37] <sakoman_> mru: correct, stagecoach isn't really appropriate for a video wall :-(
  686. [14:02:13] <sakoman_> it would certainly be possible to do a version of stagecoach with hdmi output for all the processors
  687. [14:02:22] <mru> yeah, of course
  688. [14:02:32] <mru> just adding the connectors and wiring them up
  689. [14:02:32] <sakoman_> schematics for stagecoach are posted on the gumstix site
  690. [14:03:14] <mru> if you added the traces, it wouldn't even cost more to make sans connectors
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  695. [14:14:35] <koen> Crofton|work: testlab code committed: http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/commit/?id=fbb04403380799e20acb8e131f8e83873dc236c5
  696. [14:17:22] <ynezz> koen: do you have some script for parsing of the diffs, or you do it by hand?
  697. [14:17:53] <_av500_> ynezz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsqkVowgHuI
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  699. [14:18:08] <ynezz> koen: I mean commit message like this:
  700. [14:18:09] <ynezz> gst-plugins: add some more missing depends
  701. [14:18:11] <ynezz> * spotted by the angstrom testlab: http://gitorious.org/angstrom/angstrom-testlab/commit/a87e64ae3fbe47b679712c5c873f21e56f325c8f
  702. [14:18:12] <mru> ynezz: _roger_ replaced _koen_ with a very small shell script long ago
  703. [14:18:17] <ynezz> :)
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  705. [14:19:57] <ynezz> av500: I've already seen something like that, from fosdem I think, and I asked if there's some how-to or how does it basically work
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  707. [14:20:48] <koen> ynezz: no, I currently inspect them by hand
  708. [14:21:05] <mru> one beast, one bunny, six beagles
  709. [14:21:14] <mru> the bunny and the beast...
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  711. [14:22:08] <ynezz> av500: http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/2d93de9fee55ceb7 :)
  712. [14:25:01] <ynezz> but ok, it's pre-cropped video, one BB as netsync master and other BBs as slaves
  713. [14:25:05] <_av500_> ynezz: yes, fosdem video is there as well
  714. [14:25:39] <_av500_> opps, i will write up something :)
  715. [14:25:52] <ynezz> pre-cropping is similar to this, right? http://pastie.org/1169724
  716. [14:26:12] <ynezz> movie as source instead of the PNGs
  717. [14:26:15] <Crofton|work> koen, that creates the needed repo if it does not exist?
  718. [14:26:22] <mru> that looks like the script someone used to encode the bunny videos
  719. [14:26:28] <ynezz> mru: yep
  720. [14:26:50] <_av500_> ynezz: yes
  721. [14:26:52] <ynezz> but the PNG as source? :p
  722. [14:26:58] <_av500_> jannau script
  723. [14:27:04] <mru> blender outputs png
  724. [14:27:09] <ynezz> ah!
  725. [14:27:23] <mru> you could feed it any supported file
  726. [14:27:34] <mru> might need to adjust the crop offsets
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  728. [14:28:48] <ynezz> I wish I have time to play with it, have BBs and LCDs, but -ENOTIME, it's nice promotion of open software/hardware technology
  729. [14:29:31] <ynezz> but it seems like it could be done it few hours
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  731. [14:29:59] <mru> rendering bunny took a long time
  732. [14:30:02] <koen> Crofton|work: no, not yet
  733. [14:30:07] <mru> ~100 days
  734. [14:30:13] <ynezz> oh
  735. [14:30:29] <mru> we don't have a huge render farm
  736. [14:30:55] <thurbad> the bunny vid was done in blender|
  737. [14:30:57] <thurbad> ?
  738. [14:31:02] <mru> yes
  739. [14:31:17] <thurbad> ... I hate you guys :P
  740. [14:31:28] <ynezz> it's really dope
  741. [14:31:31] <mru> we didn't create the film
  742. [14:31:39] <koen> Crofton|work: but it's only a 'git init' away
  743. [14:31:39] <mru> blender guys did that
  744. [14:32:01] <buZz> i like that blender game that they published some time ago
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  760. [15:00:55] <mmarker> Ok...so why does the BB seem to attract great hackers.
  761. [15:01:22] * mmarker reads basic code for the first time in 20 years
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  763. [15:03:38] <mru> basic "code" is not exactly the staple of a great hacker...
  764. [15:09:17] <zumbi> once upon a time all we had was basic
  765. [15:10:14] <djlewis> real programmers began with binary
  766. [15:10:36] <djlewis> building up into a assy source
  767. [15:10:47] <mru> real programmers began with plug boards
  768. [15:11:05] <djlewis> now that is reflecting back into the dark ages of computing
  769. [15:11:41] <djlewis> any pic's
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  771. [15:13:41] * mru wasn't there
  772. [15:13:50] <mru> I'm not that old
  773. [15:13:55] <djlewis> lol
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  777. [15:17:47] * koen is glad he isn't a programmer
  778. [15:18:32] <mru> we'll turn you into one
  779. [15:18:59] <emeb> koen keeps saying that. I don't believe him
  780. [15:19:16] <emeb> djlewis: here ya go - http://www.analogmuseum.org/english/examples/lorenz_attractor/
  781. [15:19:18] <djlewis> yeah, seems he manages somehow
  782. [15:19:53] <djlewis> hmm early lego's
  783. [15:21:46] <djlewis> emeb: i can almost smell the old in that contraption ;)
  784. [15:22:14] * emeb is still smelling screwdrivers
  785. [15:22:51] <emeb> djlewis: actually Legos predate that analog computer by about 15 years
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  824. [16:44:55] <mang> i really need 8 core cpu + ssd hd
  825. [16:45:01] <mang> waiting on bitbake drives me mad
  826. [16:45:43] <djlewis> how about I sell you eight p-III 800's for a cluster ;)
  827. [16:46:15] <mang> ha, not sure this is best power utilization
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  839. [17:16:27] <ynezz> mang: what setup do you have? I'm using OE/Angstrom on laptop with Core2Duo T7100 CPU and 2GB RAM and it's usable :)
  840. [17:16:57] <ynezz> mang: well, it's not for everyday compilation of beagle-demo-image
  841. [17:16:58] <emeb> Ceriand|work: tried out the USB changes last night
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  844. [17:17:31] <emeb> didn't work though - http://pastebin.ca/1947646
  845. [17:18:10] <emeb> same result with & without USB key in the EHCI socket
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  847. [17:18:47] <Ceriand|work> yea, you might have to reset the phy after resetting the EHCI controller
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  849. [17:19:34] <emeb> ah - need to toggle the GPIO bit somewhere after initializing the internal stuff?
  850. [17:20:44] <Ceriand|work> yeah, pretty much
  851. [17:21:28] <Ceriand|work> or you could try the soft-reset code that I have commented out in drivers/usb/host/ehci-omap3.c
  852. [17:22:07] <emeb> OK - seems I need to try & actually understand this :)
  853. [17:22:12] <emeb> not just cookbook it...
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  855. [17:37:41] <emeb> soft-reset is worse - just hung @ "USB:"
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  857. [17:39:45] <awozniak> what does "SBL" stand for? The omap35xx tech manual talks about camera ISP SBL
  858. [17:42:59] <awozniak> shared buffer logic
  859. [17:43:37] * Russ just realized how awesome it would be to have a 3d monitor for pcb layout
  860. [17:43:52] <Ceriand|work> emeb: if you could post a patch for your changes, I'll take a look at it on my BB over lunch
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  862. [17:46:44] <emeb> Ceriand|work: OK - I'll get that together.
  863. [17:50:19] <emeb> oooh - put in a hardware reset & got further...
  864. [17:50:54] <emeb> http://pastebin.ca/1947675
  865. [17:51:05] <Ceriand|work> nice
  866. [17:51:31] <emeb> removing the USB key changes that to 0 devices
  867. [17:52:07] <emeb> (0 storage devices found)
  868. [17:54:30] <Ceriand|work> does it load a zImage if there's one on there?
  869. [17:54:51] <emeb> there is one on there but it doesn't seem to see it and hangs there
  870. [17:55:03] <Ceriand|work> hmm...
  871. [17:55:29] <emeb> here's the patch - http://pastebin.ca/1947680
  872. [17:55:52] <emeb> (just a git diff)
  873. [17:57:57] <Ceriand|work> emeb: did you add CONFIG_LOAD_LINUX to the config file?
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  875. [17:58:45] <emeb> no, but if there are zImage & cmdline on the MMC it loads them.
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  877. [17:59:05] <emeb> so I figured it was already set...
  878. [17:59:13] <Ceriand|work> emeb: if you don't define it, it'll look for u-boot.bin instead of zImage
  879. [17:59:23] <emeb> no, it finds zImage
  880. [18:00:30] <emeb> just checked the config file - CONFIG_LOAD_LINUX is set
  881. [18:00:38] <emeb> but not by me :)
  882. [18:00:49] <Ceriand|work> yea, I probably added it when I was testing the linux stuff
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  886. [18:12:23] <emeb> changing to a different USB key doesn't change behavior
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  888. [18:22:58] <prpplague> _av500_: ping
  889. [18:23:28] <_av500_> pong
  890. [18:24:54] <prpplague> _av500_: hey, question, i'm tinkering with doing a fresh build of froyo and hacking some of the code
  891. [18:25:34] <prpplague> _av500_: is there something special i need to do to have the make understand that some of the code has changed? or should a simple make rebuild from the source that has changed?
  892. [18:26:19] <prpplague> _av500_: doh sorry, wrong channel
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  894. [18:27:14] <spin76> greetings and salutations, all
  895. [18:28:53] <spin76> i have a bricked BB, and would appreciate some help. I've gone through the BBSRM, as well as the BB Validation as per this website: http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleboardRevC3Validation
  896. [18:29:05] <koen> you can't brick a beagle due to the ROM loader
  897. [18:29:11] <spin76> But alas, I can't get past this point: http://imgur.com/vHBax.jpg
  898. [18:30:37] <spin76> If "bricked" is not the proper term, can you help me identify what the issue is here?
  899. [18:31:07] <koen> it's not detecting MLO
  900. [18:31:29] <spin76> And how can I fix this issue/
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  903. [18:34:50] <spin76> @koen ... this is the contents of the SD Card: http://imgur.com/M6uc8.jpg
  904. [18:35:01] <spin76> note I am using Rev C4
  905. [18:35:28] <spin76> Also, "NOTE: If the board is a Rev C4, use the files located here http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ instead of the ones listed above."
  906. [18:36:00] <spin76> I used the files from the Angstrom Distribution website ... there are lots listed in that link. Which ones would you use/
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  908. [18:37:07] <djlewis_> spin76: http://www.google.com/search?q=beagleboard+40w&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
  909. [18:39:04] <djlewis_> spin76: a easy way is to get the sd-image, follow instructions on /Demo
  910. [18:39:19] * emeb dreams of an IRC client with buttons to automatically answer FAQs
  911. [18:39:59] <djlewis_> emeb: yes, no homework was done here.
  912. [18:40:24] <spin76> Isn't this channel there for the purpose of helping one another out? You think I haven't tried the demo websites, and the FAQs?
  913. [18:40:56] <spin76> For some of us who are thrown into the deep end of the pool when it comes to open source hardware/software ... this is a huge learning curve
  914. [18:41:24] <emeb> spin76: no one is accusing you of not researching this
  915. [18:41:27] <djlewis_> spin76: yeah I been there, but i do try to look in every corner for info first
  916. [18:41:37] <emeb> but it is a common question
  917. [18:42:01] <emeb> and you haven't yet said that you were aware of the potential answer and had tried the common fixes
  918. [18:42:17] <spin76> djlewis, I realize that, but I've been fighting with this board for the past week or two. My employer expects results, and soon. With the documentation online (which is not noob friendly), this has been a rather difficult process
  919. [18:42:51] <spin76> I've tried building and rebuilding the SD cards, followed the instructions to the dot, but still am running into issues. It's rather frustrating
  920. [18:43:01] <emeb> *nod*
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  923. [18:43:53] <emeb> spin76: when you build the SD card what OS & tools do you use?
  924. [18:44:02] * djlewis_ might be more helpful if his hands weren't fullof lunch
  925. [18:44:07] <spin76> I've got a laptop beside me with Ubunto 10.04 live
  926. [18:44:13] <emeb> good start
  927. [18:44:22] <emeb> do you use the mkcard.sh script?
  928. [18:44:23] <spin76> I've been using Disk Utility and Gparted to build the SD card
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  931. [18:44:40] * emeb uses mkcard.sh - works every time
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  933. [18:44:52] <spin76> I've tried the mkcard script, but it didn't produce any results (terminal fires up for a second, and disappears) ... so maybe I'm not using it correctly?
  934. [18:45:04] <emeb> maybe
  935. [18:45:24] <spin76> I've used the mkcard.txt script here: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
  936. [18:45:35] <emeb> that's the one
  937. [18:45:39] <spin76> in Ubuntu, I ran it as an executable file
  938. [18:45:46] <emeb> yep
  939. [18:45:48] <mikey_w> Did you look at the script. Do you follow the logic?
  940. [18:45:48] <koen> you need to give it the sd card as argument
  941. [18:45:51] <emeb> do you give it a device?
  942. [18:46:04] <emeb> as in "./mkcard.sh /dev/sdX"
  943. [18:46:16] <spin76> As far as looking at the script and following the logic, I'm afraid I'm not a programmer, therefore, I'm unsure of what the code means
  944. [18:46:32] <emeb> that's a problem - these tools don't hold your hand
  945. [18:46:33] <spin76> I made sure that I put in the correct location for the sc card
  946. [18:46:44] <spin76> sd*
  947. [18:46:49] <emeb> yep
  948. [18:46:59] <mmarker> Uhoh. Uphill alert.
  949. [18:47:20] <spin76> emeb, that's been the primary source of my frustration
  950. [18:47:41] <mikey_w> You may need sudo.
  951. [18:47:47] <spin76> tried the sudo command
  952. [18:47:49] <emeb> +1
  953. [18:48:07] <spin76> i can fire it up once again, and give it a shot
  954. [18:48:12] <mikey_w> What are the scripts permissions?
  955. [18:48:12] <mmarker> Oh, is there a place to share overlays for openembedded. Adding some packages to my bb build...and wanted to make sure I'm not duplicating work.
  956. [18:48:17] <emeb> sometimes I find sudo doesn't bring the cmd args along properly
  957. [18:48:42] <spin76> i used chmod 777 on the sd card to make sure it can read/write on the sd card
  958. [18:48:52] <mmarker> I am a freak. audi- s
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  960. [18:49:11] <mmarker> Grr. sudo. -s
  961. [18:49:16] <mikey_w> What are the script's permissions?
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  963. [18:49:36] <koen> mmarker: send patches to the angstrom-devel list
  964. [18:49:37] <mikey_w> Is it even executable?
  965. [18:50:06] <spin76> mikey, are you referring to the mkcard.txt script?
  966. [18:50:32] <mikey_w> no, mkcard.sh
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  969. [18:51:04] <spin76> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ --> mkcard.txt ... I saved that in ubuntu, and made it into an executable file
  970. [18:51:31] <mikey_w> "./mkcard.sh /dev/sd?"
  971. [18:51:31] <spin76> Is it absolutely imperative to have the .sh extension/
  972. [18:52:09] <mmarker> koen : gotcha. Trying to get freeswitch and slim running.
  973. [18:52:10] <mikey_w> You don't even know if it's a script, do you?
  974. [18:52:44] <mmarker> koen: gpe is just too broken for my taste on BB :(
  975. [18:52:45] <spin76> i will give it a shot again. i did know it was a script that would make the filesystem for you
  976. [18:53:12] <mikey_w> What's the first 4 lines of the mkdisk.txt file?
  977. [18:53:21] <spin76> comments if i recall correctly
  978. [18:53:26] <spin76> lemme look at it again
  979. [18:54:34] <Ceriand|work> emeb: on x-load, what does "objdump -h -j .bss x-load" report for you?
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  981. [18:55:25] <ds2> morning
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  983. [18:55:38] <_av500_> gm ds2
  984. [18:55:47] <emeb> Ceriand|work: http://pastebin.ca/1947737
  985. [18:56:03] <emeb> gm ds2
  986. [18:56:47] <djlewis_> ds2: morning and the rest of yu'n too
  987. [18:56:58] <emeb> Ceriand|work: size+VMA < FF00
  988. [18:57:11] <Ceriand|work> supposed to be < f000
  989. [18:57:30] <emeb> Ah - F920 violates stack space?
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  991. [18:57:37] <Ceriand|work> yep
  992. [18:57:43] <emeb> that explains the hang
  993. [18:58:01] <wwcv> anyone using 2.6.35 and nfs root?
  994. [18:58:02] <emeb> Beagle must have more code than spark
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  996. [18:58:20] <Ceriand|work> yea, spark doesn't have the I2C or NAND stuff compiled in
  997. [18:58:29] <emeb> that's it
  998. [18:59:26] <emeb> wonder what can be tossed...
  999. [18:59:38] <emeb> what's the I2C doing in x-loader anyway?
  1000. [19:00:22] * djlewis_ suspects to identify devices
  1001. [19:00:31] <koen> mmarker: have a look at http://git.openpandora.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=openpandora.oe.git;a=tree;f=recipes/slim;h=6ac85b55ec8fb1d600bdc0322b0a61c50520e290;hb=HEAD
  1002. [19:00:49] <koen> mmarker: the openpandora folks aren't rushing to contribute back, so I guess other people need to help
  1003. [19:00:55] <emeb> djlewis_: I thought that was a function of u-boot, not x-loader
  1004. [19:01:08] <Ceriand|work> emeb: I2C needs to be there to init the 3V supply for MMC
  1005. [19:01:26] <emeb> Ceriand|work: ah - talking to the TWL
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  1007. [19:01:40] <mmarker> Koen: gggrrrrrr
  1008. [19:02:18] <djlewis_> ok, so early I2C work
  1009. [19:02:41] <emeb> yep
  1010. [19:03:01] <wwcv> tried oldconfig from a working 2.6.29 build and omap3_beagle_defconfig
  1011. [19:03:25] * _av500_ waits for xloader to get a scheduler
  1012. [19:03:32] <wwcv> but it won't mount: Root-NFS: Server returned error -110 while mounting /srv/beagle
  1013. [19:03:44] <wwcv> wireshark says the board keeps sending out ARP requests but never gets a response
  1014. [19:03:48] * Ceriand|work considered adding in an ELF loader to x-load
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  1016. [19:04:18] <wwcv> -110 looks like a connection timeout
  1017. [19:05:06] <emeb> x-loader prolly needs to use CH to start SDRAM and use that for stack
  1018. [19:06:15] <emeb> this x-loader could work fine on xM if NAND stuff is deleted tho
  1019. [19:07:19] <Ceriand|work> you could also relocate the stack after the board file has setup SDRAM
  1020. [19:07:41] <Ceriand|work> the stack doesn't go very deep until you start the MMC/USB stuff
  1021. [19:08:05] <emeb> true
  1022. [19:08:18] <Ceriand|work> there's also 0x800 bytes of wasted space at the beginning of SRAM where the old stack used to be
  1023. [19:08:30] <Ceriand|work> before I moved it to the end of public SRAM
  1024. [19:08:49] <emeb> is that used or is it just a linker change?
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  1026. [19:09:18] <Ceriand|work> it's not used anymore, so it'd just be a linker and MLO signer change
  1027. [19:09:46] <emeb> That would _almost_ be enough. Not quite though...
  1028. [19:10:20] <Ceriand|work> also, if you decrease the number of possible USB devices from 4 to 2, that would also save quite a bit of RAM
  1029. [19:10:39] <Ceriand|work> those USB descriptor structs are quite large
  1030. [19:10:54] <emeb> that sounds workable - just changing an array def somewhere?
  1031. [19:11:14] <Ceriand|work> yea, near the top of include/usb.h
  1032. [19:11:37] * emeb looks
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  1034. [19:11:59] <Ceriand|work> each USB descriptor struct is 1352 bytes long
  1035. [19:12:13] <emeb> USB_MAX_DEVICE?
  1036. [19:12:20] <Ceriand|work> yea
  1037. [19:12:26] <emeb> quick try...
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  1040. [19:15:34] <emeb> nope - not enough
  1041. [19:16:05] <emeb> but if the bottom 0x800 were free it might be
  1042. [19:16:20] <emeb> need to figure out how to squeeze that down
  1043. [19:17:58] <Ceriand|work> it's in board/omap3530beagle/config.mk
  1044. [19:18:31] <Ceriand|work> you'll also have to change the header info that gets added to x-load.bin to make MLO
  1045. [19:18:37] <Ceriand|work> see scripts/signgp.c
  1046. [19:20:40] <wwcv> interesting .. 2.6.33 works (make oldconfig with the .35 config)
  1047. [19:21:02] <wwcv> nothing i really *need* .35 for, so i'll stick with this
  1048. [19:21:35] <spin76> Update on my end: I got the mkcard.txt script from this website: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ --> I then copy pasted the script into gedit, saved the file (executable) as mkcard.sh --> run the file in terminal. nothing happens. what am i doing wrong/
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  1055. [19:34:57] <djlewis_> spin76: is mkcard.sh set as executable?
  1056. [19:39:22] <spin76> yep
  1057. [19:40:02] <spin76> I right click on the file, properties, permissions tab, and click on "Allow executing file as program"
  1058. [19:40:27] <spin76> when i double click on the file itself, terminal fires up for a millisecond, and is killed right away
  1059. [19:41:37] <koen> that won't work, doubleclicking
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  1061. [19:51:22] <spin76> Same thing happens if I Alt-F2
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  1106. [20:18:34] <emeb> looks like it's partly a matter of changing board/*/config.mk:TEXT_BASE from 0x40200800 to 0x40200000
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  1109. [20:24:48] <emeb> and scripts/signgp.c: loadaddr = 0x40200000
  1110. [20:24:54] <emeb> Ceriand|work: that worked!
  1111. [20:25:42] <emeb> loaded zImage and cmdline from the USB stick.
  1112. [20:26:10] <Ceriand|work> emeb: nice!
  1113. [20:26:55] <emeb> thanks for all the help with this
  1114. [20:27:00] <Ceriand|work> np
  1115. [20:28:37] * emeb wonders what to do with this now...
  1116. [20:29:50] <Ceriand|work> take over the world?
  1117. [20:30:04] <emeb> heh
  1118. [20:30:21] <emeb> it's a neat bit of functionality, but not something I'd use often
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  1120. [20:31:18] <emeb> would you be interested in getting my changes into your git?
  1121. [20:31:25] <Ceriand|work> sure
  1122. [20:31:39] <emeb> I should clean it up a bit 1st
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  1124. [20:32:02] <emeb> not sure if that hardware reset is kosher
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  1126. [20:32:27] <Ceriand|work> yea, you might want to use the timer-based udelay instead of the asm snippet
  1127. [20:32:36] <mru> emeb: as long as you don't mix it with dairy products it should be fine
  1128. [20:32:53] <emeb> and the TEXT_BASE change would have to be pushed to the other cpus too
  1129. [20:33:31] <emeb> mru: you're saying this is a meat-based code?
  1130. [20:34:03] <mru> I can't be certain it's not
  1131. [20:34:13] <emeb> err on the side of caution...
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  1133. [20:34:31] <_av500_> emeb: usb support in uboot?
  1134. [20:34:42] <emeb> _av500_: in x-loader
  1135. [20:35:02] <_av500_> otg or ehci?
  1136. [20:35:05] <emeb> ehci
  1137. [20:35:23] <_av500_> based on what patches?
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  1139. [20:35:53] <emeb> Ceriand|work's git repo for his product + some minor tweaks for BB
  1140. [20:36:22] <_av500_> ic
  1141. [20:36:35] <emeb> yep - no u-boot required
  1142. [20:36:40] <_av500_> we have ehci support here for our boot loader too
  1143. [20:37:05] <emeb> nice
  1144. [20:37:11] <_av500_> and there were some uboot ehci patches on the net to be found
  1145. [20:37:31] <emeb> I think sakoman_ was looking at these too
  1146. [20:37:44] <_av500_> emeb: git url?
  1147. [20:37:57] <_av500_> for "eriand|work's git repo"?
  1148. [20:38:01] <_av500_> +C
  1149. [20:38:09] <emeb> http://gitorious.org/spark-sls/x-load
  1150. [20:38:39] <_av500_> ah, thats the spark reference :)
  1151. [20:38:49] <emeb> yep
  1152. [20:39:03] <emeb> cute little handheld lab/edu product
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  1154. [20:39:48] <_av500_> ah, so its the juniper patches after all
  1155. [20:39:59] <_av500_> emeb: cute url?
  1156. [20:40:29] <emeb> http://www.pasco.com/featured-products/spark/index.cfm
  1157. [20:40:35] <_av500_> thx
  1158. [20:40:42] <Ceriand|work> _av500_: it's the ehci/usb core from u-boot with a hastily ported omap part from the linux driver
  1159. [20:41:32] <_av500_> Ceriand|work: sounds familiar :)
  1160. [20:43:09] <emeb> Ceriand|work: whats the best way to include the PHY reset for BB w/o breaking it for other stuff?
  1161. [20:43:18] <emeb> config #define?
  1162. [20:43:39] <Ceriand|work> probably not the best solution in the long run, but that'll work
  1163. [20:44:08] <emeb> 'k
  1164. [20:44:28] <Ceriand|work> a board_reset_phy() function in the board file might be better
  1165. [20:45:18] <emeb> *nod*
  1166. [20:45:35] <emeb> then I'd have to put in stubs for the other archs, eh?
  1167. [20:46:05] <Ceriand|work> you could just add a new CONFIG_USB_PHY_RESET #define
  1168. [20:46:27] <Ceriand|work> and put some ifdef's around the call in ehci-omap3.c
  1169. [20:46:32] <emeb> yep - a little bit of both
  1170. [20:46:56] <_av500_> btw, (androids) fastboot is also quite nice
  1171. [20:47:13] <emeb> OK - a few things to do and I'll see about pushing that.
  1172. [20:47:14] <_av500_> being able to flash parts of emmc via otg usb
  1173. [20:48:01] <emeb> _av500_: is that how your stuff does updates / unbricks?
  1174. [20:48:25] <_av500_> not really. but for dev work is cool
  1175. [20:48:48] <_av500_> being able to flahs a new kernel in a few s
  1176. [20:48:55] <emeb> true
  1177. [20:49:10] <_av500_> or even to push a new bootloader
  1178. [20:49:27] <_av500_> or boot logo etc..
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  1180. [20:50:12] * emeb googles android fastboot
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  1182. [20:53:16] <emeb> so it's just a mode of the bootloader?
  1183. [20:53:49] <_av500_> more or less
  1184. [20:53:58] <emeb> if its on a host's usb it waits a bit for commands before loading the kernel
  1185. [20:53:58] <_av500_> its a usb protocoll
  1186. [20:54:20] <_av500_> the bootloader inits otg and then it can reciever fastboot commands
  1187. [20:55:08] <_av500_> we still have a serial bootloader shell
  1188. [20:55:31] <`26> Say, where would I go if I wanted a dirt-cheap ~7-10 inch LCD touchscreen to go with a Beagleboard?
  1189. [20:56:01] <`26> Extra points if it has touchscreen support.
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  1191. [20:56:23] * emeb contemplates an LCD touchscreen w/o touchscreen support
  1192. [20:57:00] <`26> Sorry, I'm an idiot at times.
  1193. [20:57:05] <emeb> :)
  1194. [20:57:14] <`26> I'm a little excited as I just discovered the Beagleboard-xM
  1195. [20:57:20] <`26> By a little, I mean a lot.
  1196. [20:57:27] <emeb> get in line
  1197. [20:57:35] <Crofton|work> I am over the xm
  1198. [20:57:41] <_av500_> `26: buy a cheap 7" android tablet and gut it
  1199. [20:57:59] <emeb> Crofton|work: what's on your wishlist now?
  1200. [20:58:08] <_av500_> steak sandwich?
  1201. [20:58:19] <emeb> mmmm... steak
  1202. [20:58:22] <`26> But buying an LCD touchscreen without the processor and memory and carcasse should cost less than a full Android tablet!
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  1204. [20:58:42] <emeb> `26: you'd be surprised
  1205. [20:58:57] <emeb> small qty purchase of LCD panels has a surprising markup
  1206. [20:59:05] <_av500_> `26: you know somebody named `54?
  1207. [20:59:14] <`26> Darn.
  1208. [20:59:14] * emeb was waiting for that
  1209. [20:59:17] <`26> Don't they sell replacements for broken ones?
  1210. [20:59:25] <`26> _av500_: nope, never seen him/her.
  1211. [20:59:36] * `54 waves
  1212. [20:59:40] <emeb> `26: check DX - they sell some stuff like that
  1213. [20:59:40] <`26> ohai
  1214. [21:00:11] <emeb> but you'd still need an interface board + driver mods for your kernel.
  1215. [21:00:25] <`26> I imagine DX would also be the place to go if I wanted a nice battery, right?
  1216. [21:00:33] * `54 (~mru@unicorn.mansr.com) Quit (Client Quit)
  1217. [21:01:10] <emeb> `26 if you want a complete package of portable BB w/ touchscreen check liquidware
  1218. [21:01:28] <emeb> http://www.liquidware.com/
  1219. [21:01:33] <emeb> not cheap tho
  1220. [21:01:37] <Crofton|work> anyone know how to tell if memory leak is in kernel space or user space?
  1221. [21:01:58] <mru> kill userspace and see if it goes away
  1222. [21:02:03] <_av500_> or kill kernel
  1223. [21:02:15] <mru> then userspace goes away
  1224. [21:02:19] <emeb> use UV light to look for stains a-la CSI?
  1225. [21:02:22] <mru> ergo, userspace is a leak
  1226. [21:02:52] <_av500_> i think kernel memory tastes more metallic...
  1227. [21:02:52] <Crofton|work> I am pretty sure it is user space
  1228. [21:03:03] <Crofton|work> my code is perfect :)
  1229. [21:03:08] <mru> kernel is leaking users
  1230. [21:03:13] <`26> Cheap for me means under 200$.
  1231. [21:03:19] <_av500_> wow
  1232. [21:03:26] <_av500_> do you need a bridge?
  1233. [21:03:27] <emeb> `26: missed it by $49
  1234. [21:03:34] <mru> someone's on a budget...
  1235. [21:03:49] <`26> Because 180$ beagleboard + 200$ LCD + 70$ battery = 450$ tablet!
  1236. [21:04:08] <_av500_> add 50 and you have an ipad...
  1237. [21:04:09] <mru> or you could just buy a touchbook
  1238. [21:05:26] <koen> or an archos tablet
  1239. [21:05:34] <`26> Yeah, I thought about an Archos tablet.
  1240. [21:05:43] <_av500_> think more about it :)
  1241. [21:06:02] <emeb> not that anyone here has a vested interest or anything...
  1242. [21:06:03] <mru> think more, think big, think _av500_
  1243. [21:06:07] <`26> I am!
  1244. [21:06:53] <_av500_> it will even be hackable
  1245. [21:06:59] <_av500_> aka put your own code
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  1249. [21:08:02] <dm8tbr> _av500_: will that allow fastboot?
  1250. [21:08:12] <_av500_> dunno
  1251. [21:08:19] <mru> hackable == you'll have to fix it yourself
  1252. [21:08:23] <emeb> _av500_: any chance of buying the little kapton flex circuit serial cables?
  1253. [21:09:05] <_av500_> emeb: :) it means to open the unit and solder to some pads
  1254. [21:09:14] <mru> ipads?
  1255. [21:09:22] <emeb> ah - no soldering until warranty expires...
  1256. [21:09:22] <_av500_> apads
  1257. [21:09:36] <_av500_> emeb: ok, you'll get a short one then :)
  1258. [21:09:40] <mru> emeb: warranty expires when you solder
  1259. [21:10:17] <emeb> I'll just send it to Gerald
  1260. [21:10:31] * `26 (c04b8bfe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.192.75.139.254) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
  1261. [21:10:34] * dm8tbr has hacked enough archos hardware to know that UART is nice, but if you can't have it then g_serial also does the job pretty well
  1262. [21:10:48] <_av500_> mru: when i even start thinking of soldering, im usually past caring for the warranty
  1263. [21:10:58] <emeb> does g_serial work during bootloader?
  1264. [21:11:00] * pma430 (~root@lolcathost.tontut.fi) Quit (Client Quit)
  1265. [21:11:02] <_av500_> nope
  1266. [21:11:12] * PierreLuc (~PierreLuc@ip-66-254-44-78.mqdsl.megaquebec.net) Quit (Quit: Bye)
  1267. [21:11:14] <dm8tbr> it needs a kernel
  1268. [21:11:26] <dm8tbr> it works in initramfs though
  1269. [21:11:30] <_av500_> but good point, ill take that to the team
  1270. [21:11:53] <emeb> kewl
  1271. [21:12:10] <_av500_> the "hack it" part is not yet finished
  1272. [21:12:21] <emeb> what's involved?
  1273. [21:12:29] <mru> a hacksaw?
  1274. [21:12:30] <dm8tbr> they can just recycle our initramfs from gen7
  1275. [21:12:51] <dm8tbr> clean up bubu's mess a bit though
  1276. [21:12:54] <_av500_> dm8tbr: can you somehow lose it on a usb stick when you visit next time?
  1277. [21:13:10] <dm8tbr> _av500_: it's in gitorious I hear
  1278. [21:13:12] <_av500_> thats how we aquire sw usually :)
  1279. [21:13:24] <emeb> 2010 sneakernet
  1280. [21:13:34] <dm8tbr> bubu suddenly decided that svn is no longer 'hip'
  1281. [21:13:49] <emeb> go oldskool - RCS?
  1282. [21:13:50] <mru> was it ever?
  1283. [21:13:52] <_av500_> yes, but some people like to drive old cars
  1284. [21:14:05] * _av500_ setups up a shared ftp account
  1285. [21:14:13] <_av500_> sets up
  1286. [21:14:17] <koen> dm8tbr: svn says it is "cvs, but better"
  1287. [21:14:25] <ynezz> gbidsp
  1288. [21:14:33] <koen> that's like saying "poking yourself in the eye, but with a less sharp stick"
  1289. [21:14:59] <mru> at least the stick doesn't have branches
  1290. [21:15:10] <koen> :)
  1291. [21:15:14] <emeb> groan
  1292. [21:16:52] <dm8tbr> oh f'in lovely, the git thing disappeared
  1293. [21:17:04] <emeb> git is no longer hip
  1294. [21:17:44] <koen> everyone is using bizar now
  1295. [21:17:55] <koen> at least according to the ubuntu folks
  1296. [21:18:15] <emeb> coming up next: kathidrel
  1297. [21:18:51] <dm8tbr> and then there are the other things like mercurial
  1298. [21:19:10] <mru> and bizarre
  1299. [21:20:16] <emeb> whatever you do, don't go to 'www.bizar.com'
  1300. [21:20:42] <dm8tbr> _av500_: http://gitorious.org/archos-buildroots/gen7/blobs/master/initramfs/init
  1301. [21:21:03] <dm8tbr> OOPS, did I just 'accidentially' posted our initramfs init link ;)
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  1303. [21:21:24] <_av500_> and damn, i stumbled and fell onto the link
  1304. [21:21:37] <dm8tbr> _av500_: if you don't want to use kevin's fbmenu, then ask niklas to GPL his code for your menu
  1305. [21:21:48] * emeb boggles at this flagrant violation of corporate data policy
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  1307. [21:23:53] <_av500_> emeb: it's not BASIC, so I cannot read it anyway
  1308. [21:24:20] <emeb> saw that - lolled
  1309. [21:24:57] * emeb wonders who wrote a BASIC interp for the OMAP
  1310. [21:25:20] <dm8tbr> and if M$ will sue them
  1311. [21:25:42] <mru> do they have a patent on sucking?
  1312. [21:26:32] <_av500_> emeb: might be part of wince
  1313. [21:26:34] <dm8tbr> I thought MS had some quite exclusive rights to BASIC interpreters
  1314. [21:27:31] <mru> as on the C64?
  1315. [21:27:42] <mru> the omap has a C64
  1316. [21:27:47] <mru> that's where the basic runs
  1317. [21:27:55] <_av500_> yes
  1318. [21:28:27] <emeb> sinclair zx81?
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  1324. [21:43:52] <sakoman_> koen: did you ever get a chance to look at the Beagle xM expansion board patch in my repository?
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  1326. [21:45:17] <sakoman_> koen: http://www.sakoman.com/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=u-boot.git;a=commitdiff;h=fb7bd97164cc6d5ad4356164d1dae42c6b4d9046
  1327. [21:45:34] <sakoman_> want to get your OK before I submit it to the u-boot list
  1328. [21:46:33] <emeb> My board is in there so I approve. :)
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  1330. [21:50:28] <sakoman_> emeb: could I twist your arm to build from that repo and see if it actually works with your board?
  1331. [21:51:01] <emeb> sakoman_: sure. I don't have an xM tho.
  1332. [21:51:22] <sakoman_> should work with any beagle
  1333. [21:51:30] <emeb> OK - I'll let you know
  1334. [21:51:37] <sakoman_> and any testing is better than none :-)
  1335. [21:51:53] <sakoman_> it is the omp4-exp branch of my u-boot repo
  1336. [21:52:11] <emeb> gotcha
  1337. [21:52:26] <sakoman_> has a couple handfull of patches on top of current u-boot mainline
  1338. [21:52:48] <sakoman_> I don't have any expansion boards for beagle so I can't test
  1339. [21:52:55] <emeb> OK
  1340. [21:54:06] <sakoman_> emeb: the i2c error that gets displayed is a known issue, researching the cause is still on my todo list before I submit
  1341. [21:54:19] <emeb> I'll watch for that
  1342. [21:54:45] <sakoman_> koen's original code prints an "ignore this error" message, but I want to see if I can eliminate the message
  1343. [21:55:09] <sakoman_> the message doesn't get displayed on Overo, so I want to figure out what is different
  1344. [21:58:50] <_av500_> sakoman_: you put an if(overo){dont print msg} :)
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  1346. [21:59:15] <mru> if (archos) {pm _av500_}
  1347. [21:59:36] <sakoman_> _av500_: you mean if(beagle){dont print msg}, since the error is on beagle!
  1348. [22:00:08] <mru> #if overo #define error success
  1349. [22:12:10] <`26> How exactly does Beagleboard-xM's performance scale comparatively to x86 processors, for example, the Intel Atom?
  1350. [22:15:36] * zodttd is now known as zodttd_ybor
  1351. [22:16:20] <spin76> Can anyone tell me where I am going wrong in trying to get the BB Rev C4 to boot from MCC ... I have a 2gb SanDisk SD card. I am using Disk Utility in Ubuntu 10.04 Live to format the drive to FAT32. I place the SD Card Configuration files onto the card, in order (as per Pg. 131 in the BBSRM). I then place the SD card into the beagleboard. I hold the user button, plug power in. And all I see in console is the 40W characters. I've been a
  1352. [22:18:37] <_av500_> something worng with the card
  1353. [22:19:02] <spin76> I've tried FAT16 as well ...
  1354. [22:19:19] <djlewis_> caard not inserted properly? there is a point of resistance during insertion then it goes in untill the gold pins lift slightly.
  1355. [22:19:55] <djlewis_> sometimes those pins get mangled by improper card insertion
  1356. [22:19:56] <spin76> Card inserted properly :(
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  1360. [22:21:03] <spin76> I just got my hands on another SD Card. I'm going to try this for the bajillionth time
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  1362. [22:21:20] <spin76> format to FAT in disk utility (ubuntu)?
  1363. [22:22:36] <djlewis_> i'd try a clean card just using the mkcard.sh method under "How to Unpack and Boot the Demo Image" on http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ below downloads.
  1364. [22:22:50] <djlewis_> spin76: i only use fdisk under Ubuntu
  1365. [22:23:00] <djlewis_> to setup the card manually
  1366. [22:23:09] <djlewis_> mkcard.sh does this for you
  1367. [22:23:38] <sakoman_> djlewis_: right, I suspect the issue is trying to use Disk Utility instead of the command line tools
  1368. [22:23:53] <spin76> i've tried that script. i'll explain what i've done with it. can you tell me if it's correct? Get the script off that site. Paste into GEdit. Save as mkcard.sh, making sure it's an executable file.
  1369. [22:23:53] * mmadrigal1 (~mmadrigal@186.32.57.22) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
  1370. [22:24:20] <spin76> I then Alt+F2 to run the file in terminal. Terminal will fire up for a millisecond, then quit.
  1371. [22:24:28] <spin76> Is it supposed to do that/
  1372. [22:24:52] <sakoman_> the script takes much longer than a millisecond
  1373. [22:25:07] <emeb> sakoman_: I've got a n00b issue here
  1374. [22:25:21] <emeb> u-boot.bin built OK
  1375. [22:25:28] <sakoman_> emeb: what is the question?
  1376. [22:25:35] <sakoman_> er . . . issue
  1377. [22:25:45] <emeb> but my C2 BB won't load the u-boot.bin from SD
  1378. [22:26:05] <emeb> even when holding down user button during reset
  1379. [22:26:12] <sakoman_> what message do you get?
  1380. [22:26:15] <emeb> always loads from NAND
  1381. [22:26:44] <sakoman_> hmm . . . might be time to reformat the fat partition
  1382. [22:26:51] <emeb> yeah
  1383. [22:26:53] <sakoman_> I have to do that every once in a while
  1384. [22:27:03] <emeb> this one's kinda crusty
  1385. [22:27:18] <emeb> I'll try and get back
  1386. [22:27:20] <sakoman_> MLO just decides it doesn't like the current state of fat and refuses to find u-boot
  1387. [22:27:34] <emeb> stUpid MLO
  1388. [22:27:38] <sakoman_> had to do that just this morning
  1389. [22:27:50] * sakoman_ hates x-load/mlo
  1390. [22:28:14] <emeb> Try Ceriand|work's x-loader :)
  1391. [22:28:15] <djlewis_> spin76: your get copy, paste method should be ok. Using a terminal program get into the directory the file is in. >chmod +x mkcard.sh
  1392. [22:28:39] <spin76> roger, will try it now.
  1393. [22:28:42] <djlewis_> i gotta run, bbl :)
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  1395. [22:29:54] <spin76> if anyone is willing to help me out, it'd be much appreciated. i just tried what djlewis suggested, and nothing happened.
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  1398. [22:32:53] <_av500_> spin76: u on linux?
  1399. [22:33:11] <spin76> yes sir. ubuntu live 10.04
  1400. [22:33:13] <_av500_> if yes, plug the card to your pc
  1401. [22:33:17] <_av500_> and run fdisk on it
  1402. [22:33:23] <_av500_> fdisk /dev/sdX
  1403. [22:33:31] <spin76> yep
  1404. [22:33:34] <_av500_> and print the partitiona table with "p"
  1405. [22:33:46] <_av500_> is the fat one marked as active?
  1406. [22:34:27] <_av500_> stupid rom code refuses to boot from a non-active partition
  1407. [22:34:47] <_av500_> i guess it fears an OS/2 boot loader chaning scheme
  1408. [22:34:49] <spin76> reading what it printed out now
  1409. [22:34:57] <_av500_> use pastebin
  1410. [22:35:06] <_av500_> .com
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  1413. [22:37:54] <spin76> http://pastebin.com/UiFMgVTm
  1414. [22:38:25] <spin76> it's empty cause i set it that way to see if the script worked or not
  1415. [22:38:38] <spin76> but obviously it didn't
  1416. [22:39:44] <_av500_> err
  1417. [22:39:56] <_av500_> yes
  1418. [22:40:36] <_av500_> 1st partition needs to be FAT32 and makred as active
  1419. [22:40:42] <_av500_> this one is no type at all
  1420. [22:40:45] <_av500_> and not active
  1421. [22:41:08] <spin76> i also just tried, in terminal, to get to the desktop where i save mkcard.sh, and using this command $ sudo mkcard.sh /dev/mmcblk0
  1422. [22:41:13] <spin76> but it didn't work
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  1424. [22:41:25] <spin76> i'll try the manual method once again
  1425. [22:41:30] <_av500_> err
  1426. [22:41:34] <_av500_> mmcblk0?
  1427. [22:41:43] <spin76> that's the name of the device, according to Disk Utility
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  1429. [22:43:00] <_av500_> is it in a card reader?
  1430. [22:43:29] <spin76> yep
  1431. [22:44:02] <spin76> once it's mounted, the mount point is /media/sd
  1432. [22:44:13] <spin76> should i try that script with the SD card mounted/
  1433. [22:46:07] <spin76> i can pastebin the entire fdisk process, and critique it
  1434. [22:46:18] <_av500_> unmounted is ok
  1435. [22:46:56] <_av500_> well, do something simple as "a 1 w" and see if it gets active
  1436. [22:47:35] <spin76> you mean in fdisk?
  1437. [22:47:40] <_av500_> yes
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  1439. [22:47:57] <_av500_> a RETURN
  1440. [22:48:03] <_av500_> then asnwer 1
  1441. [22:48:07] <_av500_> and the write with w
  1442. [22:51:13] <spin76> just went through the fdisk process to create the partition
  1443. [22:51:37] <spin76> do it also need to go through the mkfs.vfat process?
  1444. [22:52:00] <_av500_> sure
  1445. [22:52:15] <_av500_> what does fdisk print now?
  1446. [22:52:56] <spin76> http://pastebin.com/XgdjXdDa
  1447. [22:53:08] <spin76> that's before the mkfs.vfat process
  1448. [22:53:25] <_av500_> fdisk would not care
  1449. [22:53:39] <_av500_> look good
  1450. [22:54:33] <spin76> the next step, that is somewhat confusing to me is the following: http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleboardRevC3Validation
  1451. [22:54:46] <spin76> it says to copy all those files to MMC, except if you have the C4 board (which I do(
  1452. [22:55:05] <spin76> and then the angstrom-distribution demo website has different files.
  1453. [22:55:11] <spin76> which ones do i copy over/
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  1455. [22:59:06] <jkridner|op> won't stay connected long, but the open hardware summit has been really cool
  1456. [23:01:14] <spin76> success. i was able to format the sd card. and i only load MLO and u-boot.bin
  1457. [23:01:49] <spin76> i can now get into the beagleboard. i need to flash MLO and u-boot.bin to the NAND so it gets out of its unhappy state.
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  1459. [23:03:28] <emeb> sakoman_: got the new u-boot.bin to run but it doesn't appear to find my board
  1460. [23:04:00] <sakoman_> emeb: is the eeprom programmed on your board?
  1461. [23:04:05] <emeb> yes
  1462. [23:04:15] <sakoman_> any interesting output fro u-boot?
  1463. [23:05:04] <emeb> looks pretty ordinary - does say I2C: ready, but doesn't mention probing
  1464. [23:05:44] <emeb> perhaps I didn't build correctly?
  1465. [23:05:55] <sakoman_> could be!
  1466. [23:06:03] <emeb> steps I took:
  1467. [23:06:13] <emeb> git clone git://www.sakoman.com/git/u-boot.git
  1468. [23:06:14] <_av500_> spin76: just nand erase the BB and always boot from sd
  1469. [23:06:17] <sakoman_> did you clone then checkout the omap3-exp branch?
  1470. [23:06:21] <emeb> CROSS_COMPILE=arm-none-eabi- make omap3_beagle_config
  1471. [23:06:28] <emeb> CROSS_COMPILE=arm-none-eabi- make
  1472. [23:06:40] <sakoman_> ah, you didn't check out the branch with the changes!
  1473. [23:06:41] <emeb> Ah - didn't checkout the -exp
  1474. [23:06:52] <emeb> give that a go..
  1475. [23:07:04] <spin76> av500: if i erase nand, will I be able to reinstall the files to it?
  1476. [23:07:06] <sakoman_> emeb: you want omap4-exp
  1477. [23:07:41] <_av500_> spin76: sure
  1478. [23:07:50] <emeb> git n00b: do a "git checkout omap4-exp", then what?
  1479. [23:08:50] <spin76> av500: I was following the instructions here: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ --> where it says If you want to flash MLO and u-boot.bin to flash
  1480. [23:08:57] <_av500_> ok
  1481. [23:08:59] <_av500_> fine
  1482. [23:09:22] <spin76> it says Partition 1 is not valid on device 0
  1483. [23:09:31] <spin76> mmc1 is available
  1484. [23:09:38] <spin76> not sure how to proceed
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  1486. [23:14:23] <emeb> sakoman_: OK built right version. Got some errors:
  1487. [23:14:29] <emeb> timed out in wait_for_pin: I2C_STAT=0
  1488. [23:14:29] <emeb> I2C read: I/O error
  1489. [23:14:29] <emeb> Unrecognized expansion board: 0
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  1491. [23:15:34] <spin76> mtdparts
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  1493. [23:21:14] <emeb> sakoman_: also, this version doesn't find boot.scr & tries to load uImage from NAND???
  1494. [23:21:51] <sakoman_> emeb: that first error message is the one I was referring to earlier
  1495. [23:22:32] <emeb> yep
  1496. [23:22:48] <sakoman_> mine loads uImage from mmc just fine
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  1498. [23:23:43] <sakoman_> emeb: here's what I get with no expansion board attached: http://pastebin.com/5ac8AS7P
  1499. [23:24:56] <emeb> Here's mine - http://pastebin.com/RxXTinyW
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  1501. [23:26:34] <emeb> and here's what my u-boot does: http://pastebin.com/XAt4HBPZ
  1502. [23:31:20] <spin76> How long is Step 3 supposed to take as per the instructions here: http://nishanthmenon.blogspot.com/2009/04/mtd-partitions-in-u-boot.html
  1503. [23:31:51] <NishanthMenon> spin76, that depends on how long the flash is
  1504. [23:31:57] <NishanthMenon> s/long/large
  1505. [23:32:19] <NishanthMenon> as long as the numbers are incrementing you are doing good ;)
  1506. [23:32:26] <sakoman_> emeb: thanks! I'll have to read through koen's patch and see if I can figure out how I screwed it up :-)
  1507. [23:32:31] <NishanthMenon> gives you an idea about the approx rate as well..
  1508. [23:32:59] <ds2> stop screwing with u-boot!@#$!@#$!@#$@#
  1509. [23:33:13] <spin76> I entered that command in console. THe next line was "NAND write: device 0 offset 0x280000, size 0x400000
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  1511. [23:33:24] <spin76> and it's been stuck there since
  1512. [23:33:30] <spin76> been a few minutes now
  1513. [23:33:32] <NishanthMenon> that is not looking good
  1514. [23:33:39] <NishanthMenon> something could be broken in u-boot
  1515. [23:33:41] <NishanthMenon> :(
  1516. [23:33:57] * NishanthMenon knows that it worked once upon a time...
  1517. [23:33:57] <spin76> there was something wrong with the partitions on the bb
  1518. [23:34:04] <spin76> so i was trying to fix it
  1519. [23:34:09] <NishanthMenon> ouch
  1520. [23:34:35] <emeb> sakoman_: np - let me know if I can help again.
  1521. [23:34:39] <spin76> the nand is kind of effed
  1522. [23:35:05] <ds2> too many people are screwing with uboot
  1523. [23:35:14] <NishanthMenon> ds2, yeah...
  1524. [23:35:15] <NishanthMenon> :(
  1525. [23:35:22] <ds2> it is a bootloader not a bare metal OS that everyone is trying to turn it into
  1526. [23:35:32] * NishanthMenon rofl
  1527. [23:35:50] <emeb> NishanthMenon: we're testing a patch - that's not mainline
  1528. [23:35:53] <NishanthMenon> spin76, dont have my bb rt now with me.. wonder if they'd like to give the commands a try
  1529. [23:36:04] <spin76> on a different note, NishanthMenon, I have to say I appreciate your blog.
  1530. [23:36:16] <NishanthMenon> spin76, glad to share whatever i learn..
  1531. [23:36:24] * NishanthMenon learns from net as well ;)
  1532. [23:36:39] <spin76> I will try commands, but I the board is hung. Will it be an issue if I kill the power on it/
  1533. [23:36:52] <emeb> ds2: pretty soon you'll be able to play doom on u-boot...
  1534. [23:36:57] <spin76> heh
  1535. [23:36:58] <NishanthMenon> spin76, you cant crap it further than you have now
  1536. [23:37:02] <spin76> true story
  1537. [23:37:17] <ds2> emeb: probally all you need is to add bin flat support
  1538. [23:37:54] <emeb> ds2: ELF loader
  1539. [23:38:03] <ds2> emeb: no ELF for MMU less operation
  1540. [23:38:13] <spin76> Power cycled the BB, it loaded u-boot.bin from the mmc ...
  1541. [23:38:22] <spin76> now to try to fix the nand
  1542. [23:39:02] <spin76> cue pointers -- they are appreciated.
  1543. [23:40:24] <sakoman_> emeb: I know what the issue is, I'll revise the patch
  1544. [23:40:45] <emeb> great - tell me when to pull
  1545. [23:43:52] <spin76> NishanthMenon
  1546. [23:45:01] <spin76> NishanthMenon: I tried searching through your blog to see i f you've discussed fixing nand partitions. Have you written about that?
  1547. [23:45:02] <sakoman_> emeb: the fix is in. warning: I rebased omap4-exp
  1548. [23:46:46] <spin76> http://pastebin.com/yGHXL4qz
  1549. [23:46:47] <emeb> sakoman_: what does that imply for me? (not too git-savvy)
  1550. [23:46:49] <NishanthMenon> brb
  1551. [23:46:54] <NishanthMenon> in meeting
  1552. [23:47:10] <sakoman_> emeb: you might not be able to just do a git pull
  1553. [23:47:22] <sakoman_> give it a try and see if you get an error
  1554. [23:47:25] <ds2> reclone to be safe
  1555. [23:47:37] <ds2> if your upstream rebases, you can get very confused.
  1556. [23:47:52] <sakoman_> or git branch -D omap4-exp and re-check it out
  1557. [23:48:06] <sakoman_> that might be the fastest
  1558. [23:48:31] <sakoman_> just checkout master, blow away the omap4-exp branch and then check it out again
  1559. [23:48:46] <ds2> it'd depend on if your upstream is out to get you ;)
  1560. [23:49:25] <emeb> yep - get conflicts and can't -D on the current branch
  1561. [23:49:30] <sakoman_> users of the branch I use to prepare upstream patches are in for very frequent rebases!
  1562. [23:49:53] <sakoman_> emeb: git checkout master and then delete it
  1563. [23:50:28] <emeb> can't checkout master - need to resolve 1st
  1564. [23:50:48] <sakoman_> git reset --hard origin/omap4-exp
  1565. [23:50:58] <sakoman_> then go to master
  1566. [23:51:23] <sakoman_> or do as ds2 suggest and reclone :-)
  1567. [23:51:28] <ds2> isn't 'git reset --hard HEAD' sufficient?
  1568. [23:51:37] <sakoman_> that should work too
  1569. [23:51:44] <emeb> recloning
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  1571. [23:53:12] <sakoman_> emeb: need to leave for an hour or two
  1572. [23:53:24] <sakoman_> but I'll check back to see how things went for you!
  1573. [23:53:41] <sakoman_> thanks for trying the patches!
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  1575. [23:55:31] <emeb> sakoman_: found the board, but didn't boot my kernel & cmdline - http://pastebin.com/fFNf05P2
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