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IRC Log for 2010-10-11

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  3. [00:04:57] <marxent> hello amigos
  4. [00:06:20] <marxent> trying to boot my beagle for the first time and not getting anything in the terminal window. retried the steps several times but same result
  5. [00:06:27] <marxent> any good ideas?
  6. [00:06:47] <JakeJBailey> you have serial hooked up?
  7. [00:07:16] <marxent> don't laugh but i made my own cable. i triple checked it and the connections seem to be good
  8. [00:07:32] <marxent> checked the terminal window settings and those are good
  9. [00:07:43] <JakeJBailey> what OS are you running the terminal on
  10. [00:08:13] <marxent> i tried from windows hyperterminal and from minicom on my ubuntu VM
  11. [00:08:33] <JakeJBailey> putty works for me in windows
  12. [00:08:44] <JakeJBailey> "To set up a serial console under Windows XP or Vista operating system, I recommend downloading PuTTY, a terminal emulation program for Windows available at no cost (see Resources). Configure PuTTY for serial use by clicking Serial in the Session window. Next, click Serial at the bottom of the Category pane. Set the speed to 115200, the data bits to 8, the parity to None, the stop bits to 1, and flow control to None."
  13. [00:09:10] <marxent> i'll give that a shot. thanks
  14. [00:10:22] <JakeJBailey> Beagle: About what it it or how it works or what?
  15. [00:10:28] <JakeJBailey> it is*
  16. [00:13:29] <marxent> downloaded putty and configured. clicked "Open" and it doesn't do anything
  17. [00:14:40] <JakeJBailey> reset your board
  18. [00:15:08] <JakeJBailey> make sure you hit the "serial" radio button
  19. [00:16:38] <JakeJBailey> its under connection type
  20. [00:17:01] <marxent> did that. i see Data, Proxy, Telnet... as options. I picked Serial
  21. [00:17:04] <marxent> COM1
  22. [00:17:11] <marxent> 115200, 8, 1, none, none
  23. [00:17:25] <JakeJBailey> and terminal comes up when you hit open right?>
  24. [00:17:35] <marxent> no. nothing comes up
  25. [00:17:57] <marxent> downloaded from putty.org
  26. [00:18:03] <JakeJBailey> wait options should be Raw,telnet, rlogin,SSH, serial
  27. [00:18:17] <JakeJBailey> http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/769/untitasassled.png
  28. [00:18:44] <marxent> probably just downloaded a virus
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  31. [00:19:18] <JakeJBailey> http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/latest/x86/putty.exe
  32. [00:21:44] <marxent> was on the wrong tab when i clicked open
  33. [00:22:08] <JakeJBailey> didnt know it had an effect, working now?
  34. [00:22:22] <marxent> putty is, beagle isn't
  35. [00:22:29] * pcacjr_ is now known as pcacjr
  36. [00:22:37] <JakeJBailey> ok so restart and see if beagle talks to putty
  37. [00:22:42] <JakeJBailey> restart beagle that is
  38. [00:22:54] <JakeJBailey> guess i should say reset
  39. [00:23:06] <marxent> hope i haven't killed my beagle
  40. [00:23:11] <JakeJBailey> doubt it
  41. [00:23:15] <marxent> i see 4 leds lit up
  42. [00:23:41] <marxent> nothing in putty
  43. [00:23:45] <JakeJBailey> anything in terminal?
  44. [00:23:56] <JakeJBailey> hmm
  45. [00:24:52] <JakeJBailey> go to hardware manager and make sure ur serial port is working
  46. [00:25:48] * pcacjr (~pcacjr@unaffiliated/pcacjr) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
  47. [00:25:55] <marxent> don't see anything wrong
  48. [00:25:56] <JakeJBailey> if thats not it im prolly gonna have to say its the cable, lol
  49. [00:26:10] <JakeJBailey> howd you make it?
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  51. [00:26:48] <marxent> i bought an IDE ribbon cable from radio shack and spliced it with a female db9 cable
  52. [00:26:52] <marxent> soldered the wires together
  53. [00:27:10] <marxent> 1>1 2>2 and clipped 10
  54. [00:27:45] <marxent> checked the connectivity thru my meter and the connections were good
  55. [00:28:25] <JakeJBailey> how is it connected to beagle?
  56. [00:28:25] <marxent> dang. gotta give the kids a bath. thanks for your patience
  57. [00:28:46] <JakeJBailey> http://elinux.org/images/2/2c/Flyswatter-ti-uart.pdf
  58. [00:28:58] <marxent> the end of the ribbon cable fit onto the board just right
  59. [00:29:36] <JakeJBailey> ahh
  60. [00:29:44] <JakeJBailey> and youve triple checked the pinout?
  61. [00:30:37] <marxent> mine isn't the same as what u just sent
  62. [00:30:55] <marxent> i just connected them pin for pin. 1=1, 2=2, ... 9=9
  63. [00:31:19] <marxent> what you sent has them 3=2, 2=3, 5=gnd
  64. [00:31:36] <marxent> i'll give that a shot after they get to bed and let you know if u r on later
  65. [00:31:40] <marxent> thanks a bunch
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  67. [00:37:37] <JakeJBailey> hmm i didnt notice that either, idk whats up with that, just googled for the pinout
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  69. [00:44:06] <JakeJBailey> oh okay yea thats right just switch pins 2 and 3
  70. [00:44:56] <JakeJBailey> those are the rx and tx pins, so right now you have rx to rx and tx to tx, which obviously shouldnt work, just swap em and your good
  71. [00:45:55] <JakeJBailey> wouldnt worry about the 5 going to ground
  72. [00:46:25] <JakeJBailey> just leave 5 to 5 like you have it
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  84. [01:37:41] <marxent_> woo hoo!!
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  86. [01:38:25] <marxent_> u there Jake?
  87. [01:39:04] <JakeJBailey> yea
  88. [01:39:09] <JakeJBailey> cool
  89. [01:40:03] <marxent_> i guess next step is to format an SD card and get Angstrom running. does that have Gnome on it?
  90. [01:40:28] <marxent_> or do you have to load Gnome afterwards?
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  94. [01:42:47] <JakeJBailey> comes with e17
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  105. [02:47:29] <johnnyg> bkero: you come with everything ;)
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  118. [03:27:41] <JakeJBailey> anyway I can free up as much memory as possible with just a serial terminal
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  120. [03:28:06] <JakeJBailey> every time i try to kill the xserver in angstrom it comes right back
  121. [03:28:38] <JakeJBailey> wait got it, down to only 76MB used
  122. [03:28:42] <buZz> stop the service thats starting it then
  123. [03:29:09] <buZz> either its gdm/xdm/kdm, or its some line within /etc/inittab
  124. [03:29:32] <buZz> 76MB used sounds like a full running linux system with X running :D
  125. [03:30:00] <andre_> If you use BB xm, which code base is the easier to build?
  126. [03:30:27] <buZz> andre_: depends on what you feel is easiest
  127. [03:31:06] <JakeJBailey> well i was at only 20MB free from startup
  128. [03:31:06] <andre_> Well, my intended goal, is initially kernel, and low level work.
  129. [03:31:32] <buZz> and how much actually used, besides cached and buffered?
  130. [03:32:00] <JakeJBailey> didnt pay attention but right now 52 cached out of that 76
  131. [03:32:22] <buZz> so you have 22MB used, not 76
  132. [03:32:35] <buZz> eh 24
  133. [03:32:35] <JakeJBailey> i am pleased, hah
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  139. [03:42:05] <JakeJBailey> so how would i see whats using the last 24mb?
  140. [03:42:16] <JakeJBailey> top isnt showing anything
  141. [03:42:58] <JakeJBailey> nvm got it
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  146. [03:58:57] <JakeJBailey> top shows that i have 18799K total
  147. [03:59:01] <JakeJBailey> i ahve rev C4
  148. [03:59:03] <JakeJBailey> have*
  149. [03:59:22] <JakeJBailey> 187996k*
  150. [04:00:00] <JakeJBailey> whats with that?
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  154. [04:12:26] <JakeJBailey> any idea?
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  158. [04:20:29] <Beagleboard> does anyone know about dsplink programming ?
  159. [04:21:49] <JakeJBailey> what about it?
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  184. [06:44:18] <ds2> 6
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  187. [06:50:00] <_av500_> 7
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  192. [06:58:13] <_koen_> good morning all
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  194. [06:58:58] <tasslehoff> morning
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  205. [07:13:01] <tasslehoff> I did a Narcissus build of a console image, and upgraded it using opkg. Now I get "login: PAM failure, aborting: Critical error - immediate abort" when I try to login, and I'm pretty much stuck.
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  214. [08:02:48] <_koen_> tasslehoff: is shadow installed?
  215. [08:03:04] <_koen_> tasslehoff: and are you logging in over serial or ssh?
  216. [08:04:03] <tasslehoff> _koen_: unsure, I did a standard console build. serial. (I've done a new build that I will restore the sd with now)
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  218. [08:14:09] <tasslehoff> _koen_: in the new console image, shadow wasn't installed by default, so I'm guessing I didn't have it before either
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  236. [09:03:58] <hitlin37> im running angstrom next.how do i get the make utility onto it
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  240. [09:09:10] <tasslehoff> Any hw-adjustments I need to do on a C3 to get the RTC clock? I have hwclock and the kernel modules installed, but dmesg doesn't mention RTC at all.
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  245. [09:10:27] <tasslehoff> No battery connected, but I thought it should work with main power.
  246. [09:10:52] <jacekowski> no
  247. [09:10:59] <jacekowski> read the f*** manual
  248. [09:11:07] <jacekowski> RTC is not going to work without battery
  249. [09:11:19] <jacekowski> you need battery or ground battery pins
  250. [09:11:24] <tasslehoff> jacekowski: I've been reading the f*** manual
  251. [09:11:38] <jacekowski> somebody was asking that question week ago
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  253. [09:12:21] <tasslehoff> and I thought that C3 had the pin grounded.
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  255. [09:12:52] <tasslehoff> jacekowski: probably me, and believe it or not, I _have_ been looking at manuals to figure out how it works :)
  256. [09:13:12] <jacekowski> Revision C3 is same as revision C2 except:
  257. [09:13:13] <jacekowski> Optional RTC VL1220 series backup battery
  258. [09:13:24] <jacekowski> that would mean it has not
  259. [09:14:24] <jacekowski> When the battery is not installed,
  260. [09:14:25] <jacekowski> R66 must be installed. You must make sure that prior to installing the battery that R66 is
  261. [09:14:28] <jacekowski> removed.
  262. [09:14:42] <jacekowski> besides, rtc without battery is as good as no rtc at all
  263. [09:15:15] <jacekowski> The RTC is not
  264. [09:15:15] <jacekowski> enabled by default; the host processor must set the correct date and time to enable the
  265. [09:15:19] <jacekowski> RTC.
  266. [09:15:50] <jacekowski> http://beagle.s3.amazonaws.com/design/Beagle_SRM_C3_0_0.pdf
  267. [09:15:53] <jacekowski> it's all here
  268. [09:18:50] <tasslehoff> jacekowski: thanks. we tried to do the stuff you said on our hw, but it didn't work, so I was trying to test on a C3 to compare. The thought was to see that it ticked without a battery with the pin to ground at first.
  269. [09:19:12] <tasslehoff> I actually didn't know about the SRM, so that's a nice to have :)
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  271. [09:27:49] <hitlin37> on narcissus,angstrom next-eglibc,out of all the boxes i checked gdb,git becomes crossed,why?
  272. [09:28:05] <hitlin37> rest are ok
  273. [09:28:24] <hitlin37> is gdb not available for next-eglibc
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  282. [09:59:24] <tasslehoff> jacekowski: R66 is installed on C3 by default
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  301. [11:05:01] <tasslehoff> Removed R66, installed a battery and the relevant kernel modules, but I still have no /dev/rtc on my C3. Any bright ideas?
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  303. [11:05:55] <av500> 12V?
  304. [11:09:52] <tasslehoff> av500: hm?
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  307. [11:20:40] <ynezz> :)
  308. [11:21:11] * tasslehoff _thinks_ he understood the joke now :)
  309. [11:21:33] <tasslehoff> anyway. had to manually insmod rtc_core and rtc_twl.
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  311. [11:22:54] <ksinkar> hi guys
  312. [11:23:13] <ksinkar> how do you cross compile the linux kernel for beagle board
  313. [11:23:22] <ksinkar> what cross compiler do you use?
  314. [11:23:52] <mru> gcc
  315. [11:24:18] <ksinkar> i am on fedora
  316. [11:24:30] <ksinkar> how to install the gcc arm toolchain?
  317. [11:24:50] <ksinkar> do u use any free tools or do u have the paid one from sourceforgery?
  318. [11:25:08] <ksinkar> 'free'=free bear
  319. [11:25:12] <ksinkar> 'free'=free beer
  320. [11:26:53] <mru> only stupid people pay for gcc
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  325. [11:42:14] <ksinkar> mru: can u give me some advice
  326. [11:42:22] <ksinkar> as to what works for you for sure?
  327. [11:42:26] <mru> gcc
  328. [11:42:47] <ksinkar> yes
  329. [11:42:55] <ksinkar> but how do u install arm-gcc?
  330. [11:43:18] <mru> exactly as the documentation says
  331. [11:43:25] <ksinkar> do u just take the source and compile it all by urself?
  332. [11:43:26] <ksinkar> l
  333. [11:43:28] <ksinkar> ok
  334. [11:43:53] <ksinkar> dont u face any issues as they point out at various breakpoints?
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  366. [13:11:58] <jkridner|work> good morning all
  367. [13:12:04] <mru> morning jkridner|work
  368. [13:12:22] <av500> gm
  369. [13:12:57] * jkridner|work needs to see if Carol has confirmed the payment stuff to get reimbursed for the Mentor Summit trip.
  370. [13:14:49] <woglinde> hi av500
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  376. [13:26:14] <CMoH> cwillu, ping
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  381. [13:33:18] <djlewis> gm
  382. [13:33:27] <woglinde> hi djlewis
  383. [13:34:52] <av500> djlewis: your 3-5 fps for the 2x webcam, what was that doing? just capturing or more?
  384. [13:35:49] <djlewis> av500: just live video on screen if one can call it that.
  385. [13:35:58] <av500> ok
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  387. [13:36:20] <djlewis> but of course with my C2 it crashes intermitently
  388. [13:37:40] <djlewis> had drop outs in images too.
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  391. [13:42:15] <djlewis> av500: ok just read latest on the BB stereo post.
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  393. [13:43:46] <djlewis> Stereo vision on pre XM's is a try it and see if it will suit your needs kind of thing.
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  396. [13:44:23] <av500> djlewis: what does it have to do with XM?
  397. [13:45:20] <djlewis> av500: just thinking out loud to myself, XM is faster so more hopeful for success using uusb video.
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  399. [13:46:23] <djlewis> Ultimately I would try two XM's with modular cams sync'd together someway for live video processing.
  400. [13:47:42] <CMoH> hey. i have the following situation: on uart1 on beagle rev c4 i have a loopback between rx and tx. i muxes the pins exactly like they are for uart3, and also i have copied the stty -g settings from ttyS2 to ttyS0. however, with the loopback on the beagle's pins we only get one of the characters via the loopback
  401. [13:47:49] <CMoH> any ideas?
  402. [13:48:34] <av500> one of the characters...
  403. [13:48:36] <av500> one of the characters...?
  404. [13:49:18] <CMoH> yeah, i send one character in a loop
  405. [13:49:29] <CMoH> so i assume it's the last one, but ...
  406. [13:50:30] <av500> the uart supports 256 characters...
  407. [13:51:09] <CMoH> i don't follow
  408. [13:51:42] <woglinde> CMoH but the board boots?
  409. [13:51:48] <av500> sorry, neither do I
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  412. [13:53:34] <CMoH> woglinde, of course it boots :)
  413. [13:54:09] <CMoH> so, i'm trying to enable uart1 for rs232; we got into trouble and we tried a loopback on the uart1 pins to see how that works
  414. [13:55:39] <CMoH> and i do this: cat /dev/ttyS0
  415. [13:55:52] <CMoH> while true ; do echo -n 'abcd' > /dev/ttyS0 ; done
  416. [13:56:00] <CMoH> and i only get the last abcd
  417. [13:56:07] <CMoH> not a continous stream of abcd's
  418. [13:56:19] <woglinde> hm thats better than getting nothing
  419. [13:56:36] <CMoH> hehe
  420. [13:56:48] <woglinde> try a sequenz
  421. [13:56:50] <woglinde> 1 to 10
  422. [13:56:56] <woglinde> what you get?
  423. [13:57:09] <CMoH> i get nothing
  424. [13:57:26] <prpplague> CMoH: try using the uart loop back here - http://www.elinux.org/Board_Bringup_Utilities
  425. [13:57:52] <prpplague> CMoH: the default uart configs will prevent you from getting loopback info like what you are trying
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  427. [13:58:49] <regensburg> hi guy
  428. [13:58:52] <regensburg> guys
  429. [13:59:03] <regensburg> i need help with usb beagle board
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  431. [13:59:25] <woglinde> CMoH ?????
  432. [13:59:28] <regensburg> it doesnt detect keyboard even using powerd usb hub
  433. [13:59:37] <regensburg> im trying to run angstrom here
  434. [13:59:43] <buZz> is it a usb 2.0 hub?
  435. [13:59:43] <woglinde> regensburg what is dmesg telling you?
  436. [13:59:47] <CMoH> prpplague, what configs exactly?
  437. [13:59:48] <regensburg> ya
  438. [14:00:13] <regensburg> yeah im using usb 2.0
  439. [14:00:26] <CMoH> woglinde, i get nothing output by the cat in the background
  440. [14:00:30] <regensburg> with external power supply
  441. [14:00:31] <woglinde> buzz what should usb 2.0 have to do with it?
  442. [14:00:37] <prpplague> CMoH: basically you need to use stty on the port to turn off all the line control and modifications
  443. [14:00:42] <woglinde> regensburg look at the dmesg output
  444. [14:00:47] <buZz> woglinde: well, there are also usb 1.0 powered hubs
  445. [14:00:56] <buZz> those will not work
  446. [14:01:01] <woglinde> buzz hm
  447. [14:01:01] <CMoH> stty -F /dev/ttyS0 -crtscts -clocal cread cs8 -cstopb -parenb
  448. [14:01:10] <regensburg> wut is dmesg?im kinda new to dis whole thing
  449. [14:01:17] <buZz> dmesg is a command
  450. [14:01:20] <CMoH> prpplague, ^^
  451. [14:01:25] <buZz> it outputs the kernel messages
  452. [14:01:25] <woglinde> dmesg is the command which shows the kerneloutput
  453. [14:01:58] <regensburg> ic..
  454. [14:02:01] <woglinde> when you see somthing that the usbdriver couldnt be loaded for something than the driver is missing or something else is wrong
  455. [14:02:26] <regensburg> so i still need to install usb driver on da BB?
  456. [14:02:43] <buZz> no you need to look in dmesg :)
  457. [14:03:02] <regensburg> wait :P
  458. [14:03:52] <woglinde> lsusb would help too
  459. [14:04:12] <woglinde> hm lets see how the package is called in oe
  460. [14:04:38] <mmarker> Hmm...is this a good place to talk about the beagle kernel for ubuntu, or should I take it to ubuntu?
  461. [14:04:53] <woglinde> opkg install usbutils
  462. [14:05:15] <woglinde> mmarker depends
  463. [14:05:26] <regensburg> woglinde
  464. [14:05:35] <woglinde> regensburg yes?
  465. [14:05:38] <woglinde> I hear you
  466. [14:05:49] <regensburg> dmesg giving me long list
  467. [14:05:54] <woglinde> yes
  468. [14:06:02] <woglinde> try opkg install usbutils
  469. [14:06:05] <regensburg> shld i check those usb related rite?
  470. [14:06:13] <woglinde> if you have network connection
  471. [14:06:15] <regensburg> is dat a command?
  472. [14:06:18] <mmarker> Woglinde: specifically...what in the clock/power setup is missing in the ubuntu kernel to run the bbxm at 1ghz
  473. [14:06:31] <mmarker> At least...I remember that being an issue.
  474. [14:06:38] <woglinde> mmarker hm better ask them about it
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  476. [14:06:50] <woglinde> I wouldnt run it at 1 ghz
  477. [14:06:57] <av500> mmarker: where is the ubuntu kernel?
  478. [14:07:07] <av500> woglinde: come on, its for fun!
  479. [14:08:16] <mmarker> Well, what is the bbxm specced at?
  480. [14:08:57] <mmarker> Av500: I believe it lives as a bunch of patches on launchpad. Lemme find the url
  481. [14:09:51] <mmarker> https://launchpad.net/~beagleboard-kernel
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  483. [14:13:15] <av500> mmarker: sorry, theres no kernel to look at
  484. [14:13:30] <woglinde> its 2.6.34
  485. [14:13:50] <av500> url?
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  487. [14:14:43] <mmarker> It's there...sadly as a download stock tarball and install a bazillion patches
  488. [14:14:50] <jannau> maybeArgh:
  489. [14:14:52] <mmarker> It's asstastic
  490. [14:14:59] <jannau> whoops
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  492. [14:17:11] <av500> jannau: found it: http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/samsung-unveils-new-55-inch-lcd-with-ultraslim-bezel-invites-di/
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  494. [14:19:05] <dm8tbr> av500: you could attach two to the PB :)
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  496. [14:19:35] <jannau> av500: I saw that, 55" is a little impractical
  497. [14:19:47] <ynezz> hm, I wonder what's the price for that beast
  498. [14:19:55] <jannau> dm8tbr: the goal is to make 2x2 or 3x3 videowall
  499. [14:20:43] <dm8tbr> jannau: well 2 PB then for 2x2
  500. [14:22:01] <ynezz> take this to fosdem next year http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/sharps-30-screen-display-features-worlds-thinnest-bezel-separa/
  501. [14:23:01] <dm8tbr> av500: or you could ask MMx for some of their stuff :D
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  503. [14:23:22] <jannau> ynezz: I think we saw that at the IFA
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  505. [14:25:08] <ynezz> "no words on price yet", "price undisclosed", even no estimate
  506. [14:25:42] <nigihayami> Hi, I just received beagleboard and when I connect to a monitor over hdmi, I only see orange screen
  507. [14:25:56] <nigihayami> How can I install an Os on beagleboard
  508. [14:26:40] <woglinde> nigihayami didnt you google and find an installation instruction?
  509. [14:27:07] <prpplague> nigihayami: or check the elinux.org wiki?
  510. [14:27:59] <ynezz> jannau: let's make world smallest 4x4 videowall with some 3" LCDs :p
  511. [14:28:29] <av500> ynezz: working on that
  512. [14:28:31] <ynezz> well, it shouldn't be called wall then, just a brick
  513. [14:28:36] <nigihayami> the thing is I cannot see anything over rs232, all settings are correct
  514. [14:28:45] <mru> video brick, hmm
  515. [14:28:53] <jannau> av500: still planing to build the archos 101 videowall
  516. [14:29:17] <av500> yup
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  519. [14:35:11] <dm8tbr> ynezz: they did that with archos 404 units and manual syncing :)
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  521. [14:37:08] <ynezz> manual syncing? :)
  522. [14:39:43] <av500> ynezz: sec, I will utubu it
  523. [14:39:45] <av500> utube
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  529. [14:42:41] <av500> here ya go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPvwS0MH68k
  530. [14:43:48] <av500> ynezz: manual syncing as in press play on all at the same time
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  533. [14:47:16] <woglinde> av500 topmid is to dark
  534. [14:47:21] <woglinde> *g*
  535. [14:47:59] <av500> true
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  543. [15:04:17] <djlewis> /me needs to blow the dust off his C2 and do more research.
  544. [15:04:39] <djlewis> hmmm
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  546. [15:07:05] <emeb> gm djlewis
  547. [15:07:22] <djlewis> emeb: best of the morning to you
  548. [15:07:32] <emeb> likewise
  549. [15:07:38] <emeb> your C2 is dusty?
  550. [15:07:45] <djlewis> very
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  552. [15:08:16] <djlewis> with a 12Amp vac I was attempting to digg my way to it yesterday.
  553. [15:08:40] <emeb> that's some thick dust
  554. [15:08:52] <djlewis> Living in the country on a dirt road and having the windows open == DUSTY!
  555. [15:09:18] <emeb> so it's not just the donuts
  556. [15:09:56] <djlewis> hey! the doe nut icing flakes I usually lick off.
  557. [15:10:06] <djlewis> oops, donut
  558. [15:10:16] <emeb> only stags have nuts
  559. [15:10:44] <djlewis> oh, i doth have opened a big bucket o worms with that typo :(
  560. [15:10:54] <emeb> :)
  561. [15:11:35] <emeb> research on stereo webcam?
  562. [15:11:51] <djlewis> not much more to do in that area. its slow
  563. [15:12:08] <av500> yes, but WHY?
  564. [15:12:25] <av500> shipping 2x qvga over usb is nothing
  565. [15:12:39] <emeb> indeed - seems like USB should support better bandwidth than that
  566. [15:12:48] <djlewis> saw where a hp laptop builtin cam is uvc
  567. [15:13:04] <av500> emeb: well, there are 720p webcams now...
  568. [15:13:29] <dm8tbr> aren't those encoding mostly to h.264 internally?
  569. [15:13:33] <emeb> yowza - anyone tried one of those on a BB or OMAP system yet?
  570. [15:13:35] <djlewis> av500: i would like to know myself.
  571. [15:14:37] <_koen_> why not hook up 2 sensors to the ISP?
  572. [15:14:50] * emeb was wondering how that would work
  573. [15:14:52] <djlewis> I have a spare Sony laptop screen i mean to pull the cam from.
  574. [15:14:56] <djlewis> It looks to be usb.
  575. [15:15:19] <emeb> of course you need an xM to try that
  576. [15:15:27] <djlewis> but then it would make a cool BB screen with builtin webcam ;)
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  579. [15:16:08] <emeb> djlewis: just need the pinout for the sony LCD and a bit of time wiring up an interface
  580. [15:16:31] <emeb> no biggie :P
  581. [15:16:38] <djlewis> sounds like a winter project.
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  583. [15:17:07] <emeb> for me, winter as in "hell freezes over" :)
  584. [15:19:07] <av500> 2 sensors on iso is doable, but needs some glue
  585. [15:19:10] <av500> on isp
  586. [15:19:29] * emeb ponders another FPGA application...
  587. [15:19:43] <av500> emeb: yes, but your fpga is not connected to the isp
  588. [15:19:58] <emeb> indeed - needs a new board targeted at xM
  589. [15:20:09] <av500> it could be simpler, just some logic to make one sensor wait while the other one is read
  590. [15:20:29] <av500> or sync them into a virtual sensor that have twice the height
  591. [15:20:33] <av500> has
  592. [15:20:33] <emeb> wonder if there's any GPIO on the ISP connector?
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  596. [15:35:05] <hatten|> kind of, you can probably use the cam_fld and cam_wen signals as GPIO
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  599. [15:45:15] <djlewis> dang, I have to install XP on this HP just to do a bios update.
  600. [15:46:12] <jannau> djlewis: no dos boot disk anymore?
  601. [15:46:30] <av500> djlewis: no, you need to take it out back and quietly shoot it
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  603. [15:46:57] <hatten|> I thought installing XP was the Computer equivalent of taking it out back and shooting it
  604. [15:47:39] <av500> hatten|: it's shotting half the brain off, yes
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  610. [15:51:27] <woglinde> jannau if I remeber correctly you make a bootdisk with the windows program
  611. [15:51:51] <djlewis> hmm I can try launching the .exe on another box and check that.
  612. [15:52:14] <djlewis> but HP says only runs under admin mode in Winders
  613. [15:53:03] <djlewis> no bootable disk options listed
  614. [15:53:36] <jannau> lenovo has cd images
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  618. [15:54:38] <djlewis> this is an older hp pav AMD64x2 3800
  619. [15:54:43] <djlewis> desktop
  620. [15:54:58] <av500> djlewis: it's dead Jim
  621. [15:56:06] <jannau> djlewis: it wine might be easier than installing winxp
  622. [15:58:57] <woglinde> wow for this old machine there is bios update
  623. [16:01:53] <djlewis> Im hoping to get rid of log overflow from acpi arrors
  624. [16:01:58] <djlewis> errors
  625. [16:02:25] <woglinde> lol
  626. [16:02:36] <woglinde> fix the acpi table yourself
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  634. [16:14:56] <CMoH> prpplague, i've finally managed to compile that uart-loopback.c you talked about earlier and it fails with 'read timeout error'
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  637. [16:17:10] <djlewis> ugh, tables are compiled
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  642. [16:43:15] <djlewis> later...
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  647. [16:56:40] <CMoH> anyone managed to make UART1 work on rev c4?
  648. [16:57:24] <CMoH> help :)
  649. [17:00:04] <woglinde> damn eclipse
  650. [17:02:33] <mru> solar or lunar?
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  657. [17:08:09] <CMoH> what's the conclusion one can draw from local loopback not working on uart1? except that the mux is wrong, which it isn't
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  662. [17:23:56] <ynezz> koen: Do you use your mac for building OE? Found this, but it doesn't sound like it would be possible http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/OEandYourDistro#Using_OpenEmbedded_on_Mac_OS_X
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  672. [17:37:45] <koen> ynezz: I tried, but didn't get far since all my disk have spaces in their name
  673. [17:39:30] <ynezz> bummer
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  682. [17:57:29] <tasslehoff> We have a board with TPS65920 instead of TPS65950, and the RTC doesn't work. Trying to read kernel source, but I haven't seen the light yet. Is there a way to see the detected I2C-devices on the board? The twl driver has an array with supported devices, and I want to see if it has detected the right chip.
  683. [18:01:45] <jacekowski> try i2cget
  684. [18:01:54] <jacekowski> and just check each address
  685. [18:02:00] <jacekowski> simple bash script would do
  686. [18:02:18] <jacekowski> if adress is claimed by kernel module it will return -EBUSY error
  687. [18:02:32] <jacekowski> and if it there is nothing there there will be different error
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  689. [18:02:41] <tasslehoff> jacekowski: that it did. both 48,49,4a and 4b were busy
  690. [18:02:44] <jacekowski> and if there is something there there will no error
  691. [18:02:53] <jacekowski> then maybe
  692. [18:02:54] <jacekowski> hmm
  693. [18:02:58] <jacekowski> go to /sys
  694. [18:03:01] <jacekowski> cd /sys
  695. [18:03:03] <jonpry> i2c is not usually probed
  696. [18:03:03] <jacekowski> find | grep rtc
  697. [18:04:38] <tasslehoff> jacekowski: I'm at home reading datasheets / source now, so I don't have the board until tomorrow.
  698. [18:04:59] <koen> i2ctools don't really work on the tps addresses
  699. [18:06:12] <tasslehoff> koen: looked a bit odd. on the beagle (it seemed) I could read back seconds/minutes after setting them with "hwclock -w"
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  701. [18:06:44] <tasslehoff> on our own board I get "select() to /dev/rtc to wait for clock tick timed out", so it seems it doesn't get the interrupts it wants.
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  705. [18:18:18] <foobaz> Is there a way to make the sound louder on the BB? I connected the audio to a small car monitor with speakers and have the volume at max on it and on the BB and it sounds like a wisper.
  706. [18:20:10] <emeb> foobaz: have you tweaked the mixer settings?
  707. [18:20:11] <topfs2> outputs shouldn't exceed 400mV iirc
  708. [18:20:22] <topfs2> or W can't recall
  709. [18:20:38] <topfs2> at anyrate it should be low on a laptop aswell, you probably need an amplifier
  710. [18:21:11] <koen> line level is 1Vpp usually
  711. [18:21:26] <koen> is 400mV the 0dB point?
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  713. [18:21:43] <topfs2> might be, I just have a small recolactiona bout 400m something
  714. [18:21:49] <foobaz> emeb: if I understand you they're all at max
  715. [18:22:12] <topfs2> could be me remembering wrong with usb 400mW thing aswell
  716. [18:22:18] * topfs2 mumbling
  717. [18:27:55] <tasslehoff> hmm. since I have TPS65920 instead of TPS65950 I ran menuconfig to disable audio. was that not strictly necessary? I could have let the kernel figure it out by itself maybe?
  718. [18:27:59] <jacekowski> foobaz: you need amplifier
  719. [18:28:26] <foobaz> is there a common one people used?
  720. [18:28:33] <jacekowski> anything
  721. [18:28:38] <jacekowski> just any active seakers
  722. [18:28:39] <jacekowski> or something
  723. [18:28:41] <jacekowski> hmm
  724. [18:28:43] <jacekowski> nvm
  725. [18:28:51] <jacekowski> that car monitor should have on builtin
  726. [18:28:55] <jacekowski> that's strange
  727. [18:29:11] <foobaz> I meant one someone here has used with success. Maybe a USB powered one? :P
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  729. [18:29:42] <foobaz> jacekowski: yeah that's what we thought, but even at 100% volume it doesn't go much louder. It's just a little whisper
  730. [18:29:51] <jacekowski> connections?
  731. [18:29:58] <jacekowski> is it switched on?
  732. [18:30:03] <foobaz> yes
  733. [18:30:12] <jacekowski> do you have other speakers
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  735. [18:30:29] <foobaz> we used headphones with sounded fine, but no speakers though
  736. [18:30:31] <jacekowski> headphones?
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  738. [18:30:48] <jacekowski> hmmm if it sounds fine with headphones then it's speakers problem
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  745. [18:46:28] <DesertZarzamora> hi, i just installed my beagleboard with angstrom, booted, got usb-eth networking
  746. [18:46:32] <DesertZarzamora> updated & upgraded using opkg
  747. [18:46:46] <DesertZarzamora> but dont find many packages on opkg
  748. [18:46:51] <DesertZarzamora> are there other repos???
  749. [18:46:54] <jd823592> Hello, i tried to ask on #PandaBoard but i never got the answer, i thought it could be similar here.. Do BeagleBoard and PandaBoard have wake on lan capability?
  750. [18:47:06] <jacekowski> no
  751. [18:47:09] <jacekowski> no ethernet
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  754. [18:48:43] * koen looks
  755. [18:48:52] <koen> yep, ethernet on the beagle
  756. [18:48:54] <jd823592> BBxM has ethernet
  757. [18:49:00] <koen> and damn, the panda also has ethernet
  758. [18:49:48] <dm8tbr> jd823592: you got an answer in #pb ...
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  760. [18:51:20] <jd823592> oh do i? but is there any irc log where i could look at it
  761. [18:52:12] <dm8tbr> 09:28:06< lag> danielj: No
  762. [18:52:12] <dm8tbr> 09:28:17< lag> Cannot get current wake-on-lan settings: Operation not supported
  763. [18:52:12] <dm8tbr> 09:28:17< lag> not setting wol
  764. [18:52:40] <jd823592> oh thanks
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  766. [18:59:30] <ds2> ewwwww USB ethernet
  767. [18:59:44] <woglinde> gadget
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  786. [19:49:06] <Crofton|work> has anyone done any work on accelerating opencv?
  787. [19:49:34] <mru> hopefully towards /dev/null
  788. [19:51:42] <koen> Crofton|work: you have gagans mail address?
  789. [19:51:59] <koen> Crofton|work: he helped with the SoC to make opencv use c6accel
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  802. [20:16:03] <djlewis_> foobaz: the BB puts out a line level audio. you do need amplified spkrs with matching input.
  803. [20:22:37] <jkridner> fyi, there will be a bunch of University of Texas students that will be joining this IRC channel in about 2-1/2 hours.
  804. [20:22:53] <mru> brace for impact
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  806. [20:22:58] <jkridner> TI is running a design contest around the BeagleBoard.
  807. [20:22:59] <jkridner> :)
  808. [20:23:02] <_av500_> omg
  809. [20:23:03] <_av500_> url?
  810. [20:23:06] <djlewis_> put our nice caps on :)
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  812. [20:23:25] * _av500_ practices "check you cabling, check your cabling..."
  813. [20:23:27] <jkridner> http://beagleboard.org/challenge or http://www.ti.com/beagleboardchallenge
  814. [20:23:30] <jkridner> :)
  815. [20:23:40] * mru fires up troll engine
  816. [20:23:46] <ds2> jkridner: rehashing the old one on the elinux.org site?
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  818. [20:24:05] <jkridner> no, it is a different contest...
  819. [20:24:11] <ds2> _av500_: just write macros for RTFM :D
  820. [20:24:15] * jkridner thinks we should revive the one on eLinux.
  821. [20:24:37] <koen> yeah
  822. [20:24:49] <koen> and use cattle prods for the judges
  823. [20:24:51] <ds2> can we make it - deposit $149, do the work, show it and get the deposit back? :D
  824. [20:25:09] <jkridner> my frustration was that we weren't tracking the projects through to any sort of progress...
  825. [20:25:09] * mru will not vote for any "run $foo on Beagle" projects
  826. [20:25:25] <jkridner> GSoC took the wind out of the sails with a far more compelling "contest" of sorts.
  827. [20:25:32] <koen> mru: look at the panda projects, "android $foo on panda"
  828. [20:25:32] <_av500_> jkridner: I like rule #3: "use TI level shifters"
  829. [20:25:46] <ds2> but what the GSoC lite thing that Carol announced?
  830. [20:25:52] <jkridner> those rules were a bit obnoxious, imo.
  831. [20:26:29] <_av500_> wow, the prices are nice
  832. [20:26:43] <_av500_> who needs the cash anyway
  833. [20:27:11] <ds2> I donno, I like the use TI part thing... for some parts, the TI ones do work better (just more $$ in production though :()
  834. [20:27:53] <_av500_> I would have stated "do NOT use Maxim parts"
  835. [20:28:03] <ds2> since TI don't make (I think) 2N2222, they still have the option of discretes :D
  836. [20:28:18] <ds2> _av500_: I could go with that as an alternative ;)
  837. [20:29:54] <ds2> wonder if there is a way to attract more hw projects on the elinux contest
  838. [20:30:08] <ds2> too many EE's out of school don't have hands one experience
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  845. [20:41:39] <mru> omg
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  847. [20:41:56] <mru> remember that nigerian girl I mentioned the other day?
  848. [20:42:10] <woglinde> mru what?
  849. [20:42:12] <woglinde> spam?
  850. [20:42:15] <woglinde> cancer?
  851. [20:42:21] <mru> she just rang
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  853. [20:42:44] <_av500_> wow
  854. [20:42:49] <_av500_> and she has a few millions?
  855. [20:42:50] <dm8tbr> LOL
  856. [20:43:29] <mru> I hadn't expected that
  857. [20:43:41] <_av500_> maybe she lurks on #beagle
  858. [20:43:54] <mru> that would be even more surprising
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  865. [20:46:19] <top100fps> for you _av500_
  866. [20:47:08] * _av500_ blushes
  867. [20:47:48] <woglinde> 120
  868. [20:47:54] <woglinde> who has more?
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  874. [20:54:42] <koen> 54 fps
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  877. [20:56:21] <koen> av500: the latest DS5 plug is cute
  878. [20:56:36] <koen> blah blah, ubuntu, blah DS5 link, blah
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  880. [20:57:06] <mru> we found one use for ds5 actually
  881. [20:57:33] <koen> yes?
  882. [20:57:42] <mru> someone had a customer who really liked paying for software
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  885. [20:57:59] <dm8tbr> I was going to say 'producing revenue'
  886. [20:58:05] <mru> and insisted on getting an expensive compiler for some code that was written and tested with gcc
  887. [20:58:14] <mru> and didn't work too well with armcc
  888. [20:58:34] <mru> selling them ds5 seemed like a good option
  889. [20:58:39] <mru> they get to spend some money
  890. [20:59:04] <mru> no support burden from unknown compiler bugs
  891. [20:59:12] <mru> everybody wins
  892. [21:00:06] <jkridner> hmmm.... that's actually a nice story.
  893. [21:00:47] <jkridner> lots of customers equate paid with supported---they need someone's neck to wring.
  894. [21:02:06] <jkridner> personally, i'd generally rather pay someone to do some work than to buy a software product off of them, but i'd say those of us in that category are still a bit atypical.
  895. [21:02:38] <_av500_> koen: nice, and so subtle with that wifey distraction...
  896. [21:02:40] <mru> this was a case of irrational fear of gcc
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  900. [21:06:18] <jacekowski> not so irrational
  901. [21:06:26] <jacekowski> gcc tends to blow up on you
  902. [21:06:36] <jacekowski> it's better than some years ago
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  904. [21:08:18] <mru> if the software you want to build is known to build correctly with gcc and known to not build correctly with armcc, gcc is the better choice
  905. [21:08:22] <mru> that was the case
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  907. [21:11:11] <mru> gcc isn't really much buggier than other compilers
  908. [21:11:25] <mru> in fact, it's a lot less buggy than many
  909. [21:11:28] <woglinde> and you have the chance to fix it your self
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  911. [21:11:41] <mru> woglinde: in theory
  912. [21:11:46] <mru> have you ever looked at gcc source?
  913. [21:11:55] <woglinde> yeah
  914. [21:12:02] <woglinde> fixed some armv4 stuff
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  916. [21:12:11] <woglinde> wir eabi
  917. [21:12:19] <woglinde> args with
  918. [21:13:01] <mru> then you know how ugly it is
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  956. [22:46:09] <Deformative> Does anyone know how to set the device to secure privileged mode?
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  959. [22:46:33] <_av500_> ?
  960. [22:46:35] <_av500_> define
  961. [22:47:01] <_av500_> you mean omap3 HS mode? not at all
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  963. [22:48:25] <Deformative> I need to use the performance counters, and on the A8 you need to be secure privileged mode for that.
  964. [22:49:23] <_av500_> ah
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  970. [22:51:21] <Deformative> Kernel is just privileged, not secure.
  971. [22:51:34] <Deformative> I think I need to set it in the bootloader somehow.
  972. [22:51:57] <mru> you don't need secure mode for perf counters
  973. [22:52:05] <mru> they work fine in kernel mode
  974. [22:52:21] <mru> even in user mode if configured to allow that
  975. [22:52:45] <Deformative> They read out all zeros for me.
  976. [22:52:53] <mru> then you're doing it wrong
  977. [22:52:55] <Deformative> Works fine on an a9, but a9 doesn't need secure mode apparently.
  978. [22:53:02] <mru> nor does a8
  979. [22:53:15] <mru> the perf counters are mostly the same
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  981. [22:53:32] <mru> they are architecturally defined in armv7
  982. [22:53:45] <mru> at least as far as accessing the registers goes
  983. [22:53:58] <mru> some individual counters vary of course
  984. [22:54:12] <Deformative> I am accessing them the exact same way except I have a different number of counters and the event numbers are different.
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  986. [22:54:24] <Deformative> Do you have any idea why I can be reading all zeros on this board but not the other?
  987. [22:54:27] <Deformative> Cycle counter works fine.
  988. [22:54:39] <mru> you're doing something wrong
  989. [22:55:22] <Deformative> Such as?
  990. [22:56:01] <mru> I wouldn't dare to guess
  991. [22:56:13] <_av500_> "The EN bit in c9, User Enable Register enables User mode access of the Performance Monitor Registers"
  992. [22:56:29] <mru> kernel can set that bit
  993. [22:56:35] <_av500_> yeah
  994. [22:56:38] <Deformative> The counters are being accessed from the kernel, not usermode.
  995. [22:56:54] <mru> are you using the perf subsystem?
  996. [22:57:00] <Deformative> I am just confused why it works fine on my a9.
  997. [22:57:08] <mru> guess you did it right there
  998. [22:57:16] <Deformative> I am not using the perf subsystem.
  999. [22:57:30] <mru> perhaps you should
  1000. [22:57:42] <Deformative> I am just mimicing the exact same way that the armv7 example code shows.
  1001. [22:58:10] <Deformative> My kernel doesn't have the perf subsystem.
  1002. [22:58:35] <mru> so get one that has it
  1003. [22:58:36] <mru> d'uh
  1004. [22:58:39] <Deformative> Do you know of a verson of android working on the beagleboard which has it?
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  1015. [23:17:19] <djlewis_> later...
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  1023. [23:25:44] <ds2> speaking of perf counters, has anyone tied it in with oprofile yet?
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  1029. [23:50:45] <jkridner|work1> Deformative: http://arowboat.org
  1030. [23:51:00] <Deformative> Hm, that's what I have.
  1031. [23:51:03] <Deformative> I didn't think it did.
  1032. [23:51:05] <Deformative> Maybe it does.
  1033. [23:51:14] <Deformative> I will need to look back into that then... :/
  1034. [23:51:18] <jkridner|work1> it supports the BeagleBoard and BeagleBoard-xM.
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  1036. [23:51:23] <Deformative> It would be nice if the stuff I already had worked...
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