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  1. [00:07:51] <Guest47507> i'm booting my beagleboard and angstrom begins normally, but instead of the prompt for the user/pass i get the command line in the dvi output
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  15. [00:55:08] <djlewis> Guest47507: that might depend on the os on the SD
  16. [01:01:24] <Guest47507> so do i have to install everything manually?
  17. [01:01:40] <Guest47507> ie. get xorg from opkg, then install gnome or whatever
  18. [01:01:52] <djlewis> I cant say, not knowing what is on the SD. Did it come with the XM?
  19. [01:02:15] <Guest47507> yeah
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  21. [01:04:17] <djlewis> Guest47507: if you can get a spare SD or two you can download complete system.
  22. [01:04:38] <djlewis> iirc the supplied sd is more a starter and diagnostics.
  23. [01:04:57] <Guest47507> i see
  24. [01:05:11] <Guest47507> it does start angstrom though
  25. [01:05:24] <Guest47507> so i just assumed it's the normal angstrom
  26. [01:05:26] <Guest47507> i'll do that
  27. [01:05:26] <djlewis> I suppose you could build that one up but I dont know the steps to get a full gui up.
  28. [01:05:41] <jonpry> startx ?
  29. [01:06:04] <jonpry> or init 5
  30. [01:06:27] <djlewis> jonpry: hi, did you get one like him?
  31. [01:06:39] <djlewis> XM and starter SD?
  32. [01:07:02] <jonpry> i don't have a BB, but that is what i would try on a console linux system if i wanted gui to come up
  33. [01:07:29] <djlewis> yea, makes sense. I think the supplied SD is not a full DEMO though
  34. [01:08:38] <djlewis> But I dont have a XM either and do not know for sure.
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  36. [01:14:13] <djlewis> yeah, reading up on http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleBoardDiagnosticsNext it looks like he has the validation image.
  37. [01:15:29] <djlewis> Guest47507: ^^^
  38. [01:18:26] <Guest47507> makes sense
  39. [01:18:30] <Guest47507> thanks!
  40. [01:18:45] <djlewis> np
  41. [01:18:59] <Guest47507> (i also remember looking for a startx in /usr/bin and not finding one)
  42. [01:19:41] <djlewis> I dont think it trivial to add X
  43. [01:20:41] <djlewis> Guest47507: what are you wanting to achive with your BB?
  44. [01:20:59] <djlewis> achieve
  45. [01:22:08] <Guest47507> wearable computer
  46. [01:22:43] <Guest47507> hopefully something more interesting than this
  47. [01:22:44] <Guest47507> http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/beagleboard-finds-new-purpose-in-diy-wearable-computer/
  48. [01:23:09] <djlewis> yep, ive been seeing that
  49. [01:23:32] <dancios> where is /lib/modules/kernver/build ?
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  51. [01:26:55] <djlewis> I agree with you "hopefully" though I do give him credot for the improvements he made on an already existing BB project
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  53. [01:28:36] * djlewis needs a secretary to do his typing :P
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  57. [01:40:03] <ds2> adding X can be trivial...esp. if you use the webbuilder
  58. [01:40:19] <djlewis> hehee
  59. [01:40:53] <djlewis> ds2: you referring to narcissus?
  60. [01:40:57] <ds2> yeah
  61. [01:41:20] <topfs2> best tool ever :)
  62. [01:41:25] <djlewis> yes, but to add it manually to a console only image. then what
  63. [01:41:33] <ds2> someone of us have different views of the OE droppings but....
  64. [01:41:45] <ds2> you can always do opkg install foo-bar
  65. [01:41:58] <ds2> basically you just do 'insert turd here'
  66. [01:41:59] <djlewis> if you know the list of foobar to add
  67. [01:42:10] <djlewis> aren't you in a mood ;)
  68. [01:42:30] <ds2> like I said, some of us have specific views of OE
  69. [01:42:44] <ds2> <-- writing recipes :/
  70. [01:43:02] <djlewis> that can take the piss and vinegar out os anyone
  71. [01:43:09] <djlewis> s/os/of
  72. [01:43:28] <djlewis> or make it worse
  73. [01:43:42] <ds2> it isn't too bad; just irritating ;)
  74. [01:44:08] <djlewis> i looked at a few "simple" recipies and arrggh'd out of it.
  75. [01:44:23] <ds2> eh? they are straight forward
  76. [01:44:59] <djlewis> kinda like taking on yet another programming language in script form
  77. [01:45:17] <ds2> sort of
  78. [01:45:24] <djlewis> looks more straight forward to me than makefile though
  79. [01:45:31] <ds2> I'll do makefiles anyday
  80. [01:45:57] <ds2> I much rather be doing something that ties more closely into hw then to try to appease sw folk ;)
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  82. [01:46:24] * djlewis has one of those rolling thunder storms going on :)
  83. [01:46:35] <ds2> nice, I miss t-storms and lightning
  84. [01:46:54] <djlewis> I can do without the close hits
  85. [01:47:25] <ds2> are you on a hill with a 50ft antenna tower near you? ;)
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  87. [01:47:29] <djlewis> uh-oh, its gotten suddenly very quiet. a close one might be eminent
  88. [01:47:37] <djlewis> 100ft
  89. [01:48:14] <djlewis> actually it is a couple miles off.
  90. [01:48:18] <djlewis> the tower
  91. [01:48:25] <ds2> OE feels too much like scon-ish
  92. [01:48:58] <djlewis> A make replacement like Cons, written in Python and featuring MD5 file signature
  93. [01:49:01] <djlewis> that one?
  94. [01:49:10] <ds2> yes
  95. [01:49:37] <djlewis> i was first thinking a snail dish but google corrected me
  96. [01:50:01] <ds2> now I want snails for dinner ;)
  97. [01:50:38] * djlewis wonders if these big ol arkansas slugs are any good to eat.
  98. [01:50:49] <ds2> not terrestrial ones
  99. [01:51:02] <djlewis> sea water type, huh?
  100. [01:51:13] <ds2> yeah
  101. [01:51:28] <djlewis> there is so much good seafood
  102. [01:51:48] <ds2> yes
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  104. [01:54:32] <djlewis> now a downpour
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  107. [02:00:35] <metaliving> narcissus is indeed the best tool ever
  108. [02:02:44] <djlewis> metaliving: you already put it to work ;
  109. [02:04:15] <metaliving> no
  110. [02:04:34] <metaliving> i will just prepare the sd card now
  111. [02:05:10] <metaliving> don't have a monitor in my room so i have to go to some computer lab to see dvi output
  112. [02:05:41] <djlewis> I am presently running htis on my RevC2
  113. [02:05:43] <djlewis> http://www.sakoman.com/
  114. [02:07:50] <metaliving> looks fairly loaded
  115. [02:07:55] <djlewis> yup
  116. [02:08:09] <djlewis> there is a console image as well if that is your preference
  117. [02:08:51] <metaliving> sounds good, i might try it after i get angstrom running
  118. [02:09:14] <djlewis> yep, you should experience the learning process :)
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  139. [03:32:56] <tdh2002> git://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation/linux.git, is this git the latest ?
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  148. [03:40:10] <cwillu> I'm pretty sure the official angstrom kernel grabs patches from a shady server in russia, and includes as firmware a oddly repeating period of noise from a seti station with intriguing statistical properties
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  152. [03:42:09] <tdh2002_> Hi every one
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  154. [03:49:14] <topfs2> which sgx core is it in the beagle xM? is it 535?
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  159. [04:03:08] <tdh2002_> GO eating -_-
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  175. [04:34:42] <Max_Galemin> hi all! I made a patch for kernel 2.6.36 for running BB-xM on 1 GHz (adjusting VDD1 voltage to the level of 1.35V) but I'm not sure that everything is done prorerly, so could you please review the changes in code? thanks!
  176. [04:35:55] <Max_Galemin> I posted it here http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/cf726c93f9c72cd5
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  178. [04:41:52] <aholler_> I assume with a git-patch you would get more people to test that
  179. [04:41:57] * aholler_ is now known as aholler
  180. [04:42:42] <Max_Galemin> hmmm... but why? :)
  181. [04:43:42] <Max_Galemin> just exec "patch -p1 < [path_to_patch_file]" in linux kernel filder
  182. [04:43:48] <Max_Galemin> *folder
  183. [04:46:22] <aholler> first it's easier to read, second using git, you will have a comment (and an author-email) in the repo
  184. [04:47:51] <Max_Galemin> I'm sorry, but I don't have access to the repo (probably) :)
  185. [04:48:02] <aholler> git clone
  186. [04:48:13] <aholler> and then just work in your repo
  187. [04:48:36] <aholler> commit your changes to your repo and use git-send-email to send those patches
  188. [04:49:08] <aholler> and you can browse your changes using gitk ;)
  189. [04:50:22] <Max_Galemin> you are talking about committing the code and I'm talking about patch: "git diff"
  190. [04:50:46] <Max_Galemin> there is no any emails or comments in patch
  191. [04:51:05] <aholler> git format-patch
  192. [04:51:22] <aholler> will give you nice patches
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  194. [04:53:01] <aholler> anyway, diff -Naur would still be more readable than diff -U20 (imho).
  195. [04:54:01] <aholler> but it's just 2?? ;)
  196. [04:54:12] <aholler> s/2??/my 2??/
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  198. [04:55:47] <Max_Galemin> thanks for this usefull information but I would be very grateful if you take a look to the changes in code and tell me your opinion :)
  199. [04:56:30] <aholler> sorry, can't help there, I don't have a xm and I don't know anything about all those voltages ;)
  200. [04:56:37] <Max_Galemin> is it possible to anderstand the code with "-N20" option? :)
  201. [04:56:51] <Max_Galemin> thank you very much :)
  202. [04:57:29] <aholler> I only know -Naur. I wondered about your changes, because I had to search them. at least in teh second diff, they are hard to find ;)
  203. [04:58:38] <Max_Galemin> p.s. we use -N20 for code review on our firm as it's much more easier to see code around the changes (we use codestriker)
  204. [04:59:55] <aholler> hmm, mpurate<2000 looks suspicious
  205. [05:00:24] <aholler> how much is possible?
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  207. [05:01:27] <Max_Galemin> at the moment it's impossible (to get freq 2 GHz) but with mpurate<1000 it's much more difficult to get freq 1 GHz :)
  208. [05:02:05] <aholler> using <2000, I asumme 1999 will be possible and one has to use a refrigerator. maybe <= would to the trick
  209. [05:02:21] <Max_Galemin> it should be or mpurate<=1000 (only for freq <= 1GHz) or 2000 (for future implementations)
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  211. [05:03:40] <Max_Galemin> actually a would like to hear about the actual solution (1.35V and for VDD1 only, without updating VDD2)
  212. [05:04:04] <Max_Galemin> but in any case thanks for your review :)
  213. [05:04:27] <aholler> I assume most (eu-)people will wakeup in a few hours ;)
  214. [05:05:01] <Max_Galemin> yep, it's true :)
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  216. [05:08:17] <aholler> the linux-omap-ml could be a good resource too to catch people having knowledge about that
  217. [05:09:48] <jonpry> Max_Galemin: shouldn't you do that via the regulator driver?
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  221. [05:13:01] <Max_Galemin> jonpry: how can it be done without using TPS65950?
  222. [05:13:28] <jonpry> there is already a driver that does all of the i2c writes to that chip
  223. [05:13:45] <jonpry> well sort of anyways
  224. [05:14:14] <jonpry> i'm not sure of all the details, but it seems to be handled by the twl driver
  225. [05:14:23] <Max_Galemin> could you please point me to this driver?
  226. [05:15:13] <Max_Galemin> well, I thought that twl_i2c_write_u8 is a part of twl driver...
  227. [05:15:27] <Max_Galemin> no? :)
  228. [05:15:43] <jonpry> it is but there is higher level stuff for setting voltages other than clobbering the chips registers
  229. [05:15:56] <jonpry> like this does something:
  230. [05:15:58] <jonpry> static struct regulator_init_data beagle_vmmc1 = {
  231. [05:15:58] <jonpry> .constraints = {
  232. [05:15:58] <jonpry> .min_uV = 1850000,
  233. [05:15:58] <jonpry> .max_uV = 3150000,
  234. [05:15:58] <jonpry> .valid_modes_mask = REGULATOR_MODE_NORMAL
  235. [05:15:59] <jonpry> | REGULATOR_MODE_STANDBY,
  236. [05:16:01] <jonpry> .valid_ops_mask = REGULATOR_CHANGE_VOLTAGE
  237. [05:16:03] <jonpry> | REGULATOR_CHANGE_MODE
  238. [05:16:05] <jonpry> | REGULATOR_CHANGE_STATUS,
  239. [05:16:07] <jonpry> },
  240. [05:16:10] <jonpry> .num_consumer_supplies = 1,
  241. [05:16:12] <jonpry> .consumer_supplies = &beagle_vmmc1_supply,
  242. [05:16:13] <jonpry> };
  243. [05:17:12] <jonpry> i think if you set the name to DCDC1 or whatever twl thinks it should be, and constrain the voltage to the way you want it. it should set it
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  245. [05:18:57] <jonpry> i am writing a driver for tps65910. in theory my driver works but i have yet to hook it up to other platform stuff, which is kind of where you are at
  246. [05:20:12] <Max_Galemin> yes, you are right, it's better to do everything using regulators
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  249. [05:21:39] <Max_Galemin> this patch it's just a quick workaroung, not a complete solution :) complete solution is using smartreflex
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  251. [05:22:24] <Max_Galemin> probably if I have time in future I'll implement normal driver
  252. [05:22:32] <jonpry> for sure. if you are testing the function its one thing. but clobbering a drivers i2c registers from a board file is unlikely to go very far upstream
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  254. [05:23:46] <Max_Galemin> basically the main goal is stabilizing 2.6.36 kernel for my hobby project on BB-xM with 1 GHz freq :)
  255. [05:24:23] <jonpry> reflex sounds cool. there is also that nasty RBB/FBB stuff
  256. [05:24:33] <Max_Galemin> i'll be happy to take a part in implementing proper solution with other developers
  257. [05:25:37] <Max_Galemin> SR is already implemented by guys from Arago
  258. [05:25:51] <Max_Galemin> in 2.6.32
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  260. [05:25:59] <jonpry> i will look into that
  261. [05:26:16] <jonpry> afaik to go to 1ghz you need to enable the forward body bias regulator
  262. [05:26:17] <ds2> pastebin, please!
  263. [05:26:46] <Max_Galemin> but I need to continue with my project and I can't spend a lot of time implementing proper drivers :(
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  265. [05:27:22] <jonpry> nothing to do with proper. the chip just won't ever be stable
  266. [05:28:14] <jonpry> however, i have no idea how to turn it on
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  268. [05:29:09] <tdh2002_> the tps69530 doent work?
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  270. [05:29:36] <Max_Galemin> tdh2002_: why? it works :)
  271. [05:30:03] <tdh2002_> O_o
  272. [05:30:44] <Max_Galemin> oh, sorry, I thought you are talking about tps65950 :)
  273. [05:32:01] <jonpry> anyways, i think you need a couple lines from here to get it working. http://arago-project.org/git/people/?p=sriram/ti-psp-omap.git;a=commitdiff;h=8d78b8198d220d5ebade7587caf664a0ef8c8fe7
  274. [05:32:42] <jonpry> i think the fewline after: /* program for fast opp - enable FBB */ at the minimum
  275. [05:34:48] <Max_Galemin> should it be applied for DM3730?
  276. [05:34:56] <jonpry> absolutely
  277. [05:36:09] <Max_Galemin> ok, I need to read about this technology :)
  278. [05:36:20] <Max_Galemin> *technique
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  304. [07:59:59] <ds2> @%$!#@#@! Google
  305. [08:01:05] <adj> ?
  306. [08:01:23] <ds2> search for an 850mm lense and it returns hits for F1.8 50mm lense...wtf
  307. [08:01:55] <adj> google knows better what you really want :)
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  310. [08:04:08] <ds2> and I thought I found a F1.8 850mm lense :/
  311. [08:04:53] <adj> well THAT would be a beast
  312. [08:04:53] <dm8tbr> that would be one of a large shard
  313. [08:05:20] * dm8tbr high-5's adj
  314. [08:05:50] <ds2> I started looking for a F1.8 1200mm lense so that's quite a compromise ;)
  315. [08:07:02] <av500> ds2: right!
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  335. [08:57:34] <andrewzro> hy all. I got a question: Is there any way to force a BeagleBoard C4 to boot from MMC ?? I don't want to press USER all the time. Can this be done? maybe with a boot.scr ??
  336. [08:57:44] * florian_kc is now known as florian
  337. [08:58:32] <adj> it depends on what you want to load from mmc
  338. [08:58:46] <andrewzro> U-boot
  339. [08:58:47] <mru> blank the first block of nand
  340. [08:59:23] <adj> if it's okay to load x-loader from nand and the rest from mmc, that's fine too. And mrus comment will cause the x-loader to be loaded from mmc, too
  341. [08:59:46] <andrewzro> but that would mean that I won't be able to boot from NAND again, right?
  342. [08:59:57] <av500> no
  343. [09:00:04] <mru> if user button is not pressed, rom will try loading something from the first block of nand
  344. [09:00:09] <av500> you can flash a new nand
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  346. [09:00:21] <mru> if there's nothing there, it will search mmc (eventually)
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  348. [09:00:42] <andrewzro> got it. thanks
  349. [09:00:50] <mru> when x-loader is running, wherever it was loaded from, it too will search both nand and mmc for u-boot
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  351. [09:01:24] <mru> to make sure it boots from mmc, you should blank both the x-loader and u-boot nand partitions
  352. [09:02:13] <andrewzro> ok. thank you
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  369. [09:43:02] <fabjan> Hello, I have a Beagleboard C4 and was trying to read the user button from /sys/class/gpio, but after `echo 7 > /sys/class/gpio/export` there is no /sys/class/gpio/gpio7.
  370. [09:44:04] <fabjan> I looked around a bit to see if I hade the wrong gpio number but the reference manual says 7 for the user button on the C4
  371. [09:45:13] <adj> does your kernel reserve gpio 7 for some other use?
  372. [09:45:39] <fabjan> not that I know of, I'm using Angstroms default Beagleboard image
  373. [09:45:48] <adj> iirc, some reacent beagle kernels already connect user button to a gpio event input
  374. [09:46:44] <fabjan> I can read the events from /dev/input/event0
  375. [09:47:04] <fabjan> do I have to disable that somehow to make the gpio free for me to use in /sys/class/gpio?
  376. [09:47:48] <adj> yep. There might be some Correct way to do it but the only way I know is to remove that mapping from board file and recompile kernel
  377. [09:47:59] <fabjan> I'm reading from Erlang and it can't read devices. Otherwise /dev/input/event0 would have been fine.
  378. [09:48:17] <fabjan> adj: all right, thanks
  379. [09:48:30] <fabjan> I'll see if I can find a way without having to recompile.
  380. [09:48:37] <adj> fabjan: you could perhaps do some user space wrapper with C?
  381. [09:49:08] <fabjan> yeah
  382. [09:49:09] <adj> read event0 and update e.g. some file?
  383. [09:49:42] <fabjan> I can write a c function to call from Erlang actually
  384. [09:49:46] <fabjan> might be the easiest way
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  387. [09:57:16] <rsv> i have a question on why uart lines are pulled low and not high?
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  390. [10:32:56] <rodrigo_golive> morning
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  404. [11:17:14] <tasslehoff> what's needed to make OTG behave like a "normal" usb input, i.e. like the ehci one.
  405. [11:17:27] * tasslehoff hopes the terminology is close to correct
  406. [11:17:31] <av500> for host mode
  407. [11:17:32] <av500> force
  408. [11:18:09] <tasslehoff> av500: using a command line curse?
  409. [11:18:29] <av500> hmm
  410. [11:18:47] <av500> is there a kernel config for it?
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  414. [11:29:17] <tasslehoff> hm. there's a bunch of otg-options I don't understand in the kernel config at least :)
  415. [11:29:42] <mru> try all combinations until it works
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  417. [11:30:20] <tasslehoff> ah, there we have it. Driver Mode: USB OTG Device.
  418. [11:32:17] <av500> module_param (mode_default, int, 0);
  419. [11:32:32] <av500> its a module param
  420. [11:32:45] <av500> MODULE_PARM_DESC(mode_default, "default usb role: 1 - host, 2 - peripheral");
  421. [11:33:42] <koen> plug in a proper cable :)
  422. [11:37:06] <tasslehoff> av500: I know nothing about module_param's, but it sounds like that means I should leave the kernel config alone?
  423. [11:38:06] <tasslehoff> koen: that is actually probably the best answer :)
  424. [11:38:31] <tasslehoff> OTG said this about my USB->Ethernet adapter though: rejected 1 configuration due to insufficient available bus power
  425. [11:38:44] <av500> otg is 100mA
  426. [11:38:48] <av500> per spec
  427. [11:38:51] <av500> and per TWL
  428. [11:39:03] <av500> if your eth asks for more, it will be rejected
  429. [11:40:23] <av500> you could of course supply your own 5V on the musb 5v
  430. [11:40:36] <av500> and tell the kernel this fact
  431. [11:42:27] <tasslehoff> will maybe have to do that, cause it rejected my usbstick as well.
  432. [11:42:44] <tasslehoff> and I have to reboot as a punishment for every rejection, it seems :)
  433. [11:43:40] <jkridner|work> just so there is no confusion when the CraneBoard is announced (http://craneboard.org)... it is as simple as a low-cost Mistral designed EVM for the AM3517 that removes the DSP from the OMAP3530 and adds 3.3V I/O, on-chip Ethernet, CAN bus, and DDR2 support.
  434. [11:44:20] <mru> ddr2 at what speed?
  435. [11:44:23] <av500> jkridner|work: who is behind craneboard.org?
  436. [11:44:29] <jkridner|work> Mistral.
  437. [11:44:39] <av500> price?
  438. [11:44:45] <av500> wtf 199
  439. [11:45:03] <jkridner|work> yeah... not intended to be community.
  440. [11:45:30] <av500> why does the website then tell people to get help from bb.org?
  441. [11:45:39] <av500> can we charge CB users?
  442. [11:45:56] <jkridner|work> hehe, because if you want software for it, that's pretty much where you'll get it from.
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  444. [11:46:13] <jkridner|work> it is more about enabling people to make their own boards cheaper.
  445. [11:46:45] <jkridner|work> if you wanted to make a BeagleBoard-like board, the AM3517 is cheaper than OMAP3530 or DM3730 and it allows you to use cheaper components on your board...
  446. [11:46:52] <jkridner|work> no need to add external Ethernet....
  447. [11:46:55] <av500> sure
  448. [11:47:00] <jkridner|work> using DDR2, instead of LPDDR...
  449. [11:47:06] <jkridner|work> no need for level shifters...
  450. [11:47:07] <jkridner|work> etc.
  451. [11:47:12] <av500> \\\ooo///
  452. [11:47:14] <mru> why not AM37xx?
  453. [11:47:26] <av500> because dsp is hard :)
  454. [11:47:35] <mru> AM37 doesn't have dsp
  455. [11:47:41] <mru> that's the point
  456. [11:47:48] <jkridner|work> I'm not sure what the price diff is to AM37xx, but AM37xx still has 1.8V I/O and LPDDR... and not integrated Ethernet.
  457. [11:48:00] <mru> oh
  458. [11:48:04] <av500> so its a dm37xx?
  459. [11:48:12] <av500> with another name
  460. [11:48:16] <mru> yes
  461. [11:48:18] <jkridner|work> AM37x is a pure DM37x subset.
  462. [11:48:24] <mru> efuses I bet
  463. [11:48:26] <av500> what is missing?
  464. [11:48:38] <jkridner|work> AM37x removes DSP.
  465. [11:48:44] <av500> see
  466. [11:48:47] <mru> any plans for an AM3717?
  467. [11:48:54] <jkridner|work> OMAP3503 --> AM3703
  468. [11:49:00] <jkridner|work> OMAP3515 --> AM3715
  469. [11:49:07] <jkridner|work> OMAP3525 --> DM3725
  470. [11:49:09] <mru> the dsp is obviously still there in Si
  471. [11:49:12] <jkridner|work> OMAP3530 --> DM3730
  472. [11:49:22] <av500> err
  473. [11:49:24] <av500> 3630
  474. [11:49:37] <jkridner|work> DM37x is all OMAP3630 derived, yes.
  475. [11:49:48] <mru> derived as in identical
  476. [11:50:21] <jkridner|work> AM35x (AM3505, AM3517) doesn't provide a DSP-add equivalent and is more optimized for industrial/automotive use-cases.
  477. [11:50:40] <jkridner|work> bigger package...
  478. [11:50:49] <jkridner|work> etc.
  479. [11:51:30] <ssvb> and what about AM3894?
  480. [11:51:56] <jkridner|work> that one is faster and will consume a bit more power.
  481. [11:52:19] <jkridner|work> AM3894 supports DDR3 (I think on two busses).
  482. [11:52:22] <tasslehoff> could it be that my stupid usb devices ask for way more power than they need? 100mA for a SanDisk memorystick sounds a bit too much.
  483. [11:52:39] <av500> tasslehoff: 100ma is the mimimum
  484. [11:52:54] <av500> usb ports are required to provide 100mA
  485. [11:53:00] <av500> so asking less is pointless
  486. [11:53:06] <mru> 500 if you ask nicely
  487. [11:53:13] <av500> but there are usb sticks that need more then 100mA
  488. [11:53:18] <av500> making the fail on otg prots
  489. [11:53:20] <av500> ports
  490. [11:53:53] <av500> jkridner|work: dual ddr3 and no dsp, what is the point?
  491. [11:54:01] <mru> fast_mempcy
  492. [11:54:40] <jkridner|work> av500: PCIe....
  493. [11:54:51] <tasslehoff> av500: hm. ok. perhaps I will have to feed it 5V then.
  494. [11:55:03] <jkridner|work> so, put it in a rack and get lots of data collection and analysis and control.
  495. [11:55:12] <jkridner|work> NEON gives a bit of DSP.
  496. [11:55:27] <mru> neon isn't a dsp
  497. [11:55:32] <mru> it's a simd coprocessor
  498. [11:55:41] <jkridner|work> but it can do some DSP....
  499. [11:55:43] <av500> jkridner|work: but what does the HDVPSS do?
  500. [11:55:49] <mru> anything can process digital signals
  501. [11:55:49] <jkridner|work> why am I arguing that side?!?
  502. [11:55:56] <av500> it can capture and output, but not process, right?
  503. [11:56:09] <jkridner|work> mru: NEON gives more MACs than you can do without it.
  504. [11:56:21] <mru> of course
  505. [11:56:28] <jkridner|work> av500: depends on the type of processing required.
  506. [11:56:35] <mru> but it's still not a dsp
  507. [11:56:57] <jkridner|work> if it is capture and do more simple controls.... and *UI*, then it makes some sense.
  508. [11:57:24] <jkridner|work> Sure, one of the octo-core C66x devices is gonna give you a ton more data processing capability.
  509. [11:57:35] <av500> and of course, its missing from the TRM
  510. [11:57:44] * av500 glares at TI
  511. [11:57:46] <jkridner|work> but, some folks are more concerned about running standard software stacks and throwing MHz at a problem.
  512. [11:57:51] <av500> right
  513. [11:58:02] <jkridner|work> what is missing from what TRM?
  514. [11:58:07] <jkridner|work> oh...
  515. [11:58:09] <av500> HDVPSS
  516. [11:58:09] <jkridner|work> HDVPSS?
  517. [11:58:23] <jkridner|work> right....
  518. [11:58:25] <jkridner|work> long story. :(
  519. [11:58:50] <av500> i fail to see how as a customer I am supposed to select such a chip
  520. [11:59:26] <mru> maybe those are just the chips where some parts of Si came out bad
  521. [11:59:33] <mru> might as well label them up and sell them
  522. [11:59:57] <av500> "...The High-Definition Video Processing Subsystem (HDVPSS) in these devices provides high quality processing of the video signals, such as scaling and noise filtering. Please refer to the HDVPSS section of the datasheet for information on the video processing features available in these devices...."
  523. [12:00:01] <av500> ti e2e ftw
  524. [12:00:31] <mru> ah, it's an sd2hd upscaler
  525. [12:00:39] <av500> yes
  526. [12:00:46] <mru> people love those
  527. [12:00:56] <av500> "Advanced Video Processing Features Such as Scan/Format/Rate Conversion..."
  528. [12:01:21] <av500> its a video wall processor :)
  529. [12:01:39] <mru> it does sound like something you might put in a display
  530. [12:02:01] <av500> and it has a SGX530 for a 3d on screen menu :)
  531. [12:02:27] <av500> instead of [-------->|<-------]
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  534. [12:05:15] <av500> jkridner|work: you went offline to put the HDVPSS trm onto rapidshare?
  535. [12:05:39] <jkridner|work> not busted, just ran into some licensing hoopla.
  536. [12:06:11] <jkridner|work> if I had a good set of HDVPSS TRM materials, I probably would torrent them instead of rapidshare.
  537. [12:06:58] <jkridner|work> btw, for a cheaper AM3517 board, there is http://www.variscite.com/...
  538. [12:07:10] <jkridner|work> but, they only talk about the module price and not the evaluation board price.
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  540. [12:07:21] <av500> jkridner|work: fail, the CB schematics on BB.org are in a zip file
  541. [12:07:22] <jkridner|work> and they don't have an easy on-line order form that I could find.
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  543. [12:07:44] <jkridner|work> really? you are going to pick on zip? as if you didn't have unzip on your Linux box?
  544. [12:08:18] <jkridner|work> from HDVPSS TRM missing to .zip? :)
  545. [12:08:24] <av500> :)
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  547. [12:08:58] <jkridner|work> as if that was less of a problem then XLS.
  548. [12:09:12] <av500> the schematic is in xls?
  549. [12:09:19] <av500> i leave it zipped then :)
  550. [12:09:19] <jkridner|work> hehe... BOM.
  551. [12:09:26] <mru> boom, boom
  552. [12:09:27] <woglinde> he even google ships android-sdk as tar and ndk as zip
  553. [12:09:46] <jkridner|work> its an OrCAD .dsn.
  554. [12:09:48] <av500> woglinde: that is fine, I dont open an sdk or ndk in pdf reader
  555. [12:09:57] <av500> jkridner|work: lol
  556. [12:10:02] <av500> ok, forget it
  557. [12:10:06] <woglinde> you open zip in pdf-reader?
  558. [12:10:08] <woglinde> hm
  559. [12:10:15] <av500> woglinde: I open schematics in pdf reader
  560. [12:10:37] <woglinde> wouldnt be a schematic program better?
  561. [12:10:38] <jkridner|work> I was worried it was going to be PDF and not real schematics...
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  563. [12:10:55] <av500> woglinde: i also look at a lot of code in a web browser
  564. [12:10:56] <jkridner|work> at least this puts me in a better position to make some.
  565. [12:11:08] <av500> since both code and sch, I read far more than i write/edit
  566. [12:11:27] <woglinde> hm for code I am doing this too
  567. [12:11:40] <woglinde> god thanks I didnt have to look at schematics
  568. [12:11:51] <av500> if you would, you would appreciate a pdf
  569. [12:12:39] <woglinde> hm svg?
  570. [12:12:45] <av500> lol
  571. [12:12:49] <woglinde> no?
  572. [12:12:53] <av500> can you search an svg?
  573. [12:13:05] <woglinde> I thought zoom would be better in some cases
  574. [12:13:14] <av500> zoom is not a problem
  575. [12:13:17] <jkridner|work> av500: according to Brad Neuberg's recent SVG presentation, you can.
  576. [12:13:20] <av500> pdf is a vector format
  577. [12:13:40] <woglinde> depends anyway whats inside
  578. [12:13:47] <woglinde> if you have pics
  579. [12:13:47] <av500> jkridner|work: so, once it becomes mainstream in a few decades, I will use it
  580. [12:13:49] <jkridner|work> I think an SVG-based schematic capture program would be awesome.
  581. [12:13:54] <woglinde> you are lost anyway
  582. [12:14:13] <av500> woglinde: schematics dont have little pics of resistors :)
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  585. [12:14:32] <woglinde> sure but the schematic could be a pic
  586. [12:14:41] <av500> it could
  587. [12:14:56] <av500> it could be printed, put on a wooden tables, photographed and scanned
  588. [12:15:00] <woglinde> okay trolling minutes are over
  589. [12:15:08] <jkridner|work> well, I can see how far my http://craneboard.org discussion went (really probably shouldn't have a .org name, but is a "free reference"). hopefully when it is announce and people bug, there won't be much confusion.
  590. [12:15:18] <mru> woglinde: come on, it's almost friday...
  591. [12:15:26] <woglinde> mru no no
  592. [12:15:34] <woglinde> I need some topcis for tomorrow
  593. [12:15:39] <av500> woglinde: http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Best_of_2006_0x3a__Web_0_0x2e_1.aspx
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  595. [12:16:33] <jkridner|work> more fodder for this crowd of trolls: http://opensourcemid.org
  596. [12:16:46] <woglinde> av500 hm yeah thats old
  597. [12:17:35] <woglinde> jk who in world would run ce on it
  598. [12:17:50] <mru> steve ballmer?
  599. [12:18:00] <woglinde> he has a ipad
  600. [12:18:03] <woglinde> I believe
  601. [12:18:22] <mru> so he'll need something else to run wince on
  602. [12:19:25] <av500> jkridner|work: nice, but I like our 299 product better
  603. [12:19:41] <jkridner|work> isn't your $299 the 10"?
  604. [12:19:47] <av500> ah right
  605. [12:19:49] <av500> the 7" is 250
  606. [12:20:03] <av500> the osmid is resistive ts
  607. [12:20:14] <av500> not nice for 7"
  608. [12:20:26] <av500> lunch
  609. [12:20:59] <woglinde> av500 hehe cdma
  610. [12:22:15] * jkridner|work wonders if anyone has taken one of av500's 10" tablets and connected one of those Kinect cameras just to upset Mr. Ballmer.
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  613. [12:35:13] <_koen_> jkridner|work: I can if you send me a tablet and kinect
  614. [12:35:39] <jkridner|work> ping av500 for the tablet. :)
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  645. [14:05:30] <GatorBoz> Guten Mornen
  646. [14:05:42] <GatorBoz> Does anyone have Flyswatter configuration files for Beagle Board handy?
  647. [14:05:56] <woglinde> what?
  648. [14:06:44] <GatorBoz> guten morgen = good morning in German. Flyswatter configuration files = JTAG debugger config files necessary for Flyswatter and OCD
  649. [14:07:08] <av500> what?
  650. [14:07:32] <av500> :)
  651. [14:07:53] <woglinde> ocd?
  652. [14:07:59] <GatorBoz> OpenOCD
  653. [14:08:03] <GatorBoz> :)
  654. [14:08:15] <av500> jtag?
  655. [14:08:21] <GatorBoz> seven?
  656. [14:08:24] <GatorBoz> :)
  657. [14:08:49] <woglinde> normal beagleboard has no cam?
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  659. [14:10:29] <av500> cam?
  660. [14:10:30] <av500> no
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  662. [14:13:04] <woglinde> av500 yeah so I wonder why he need ocd
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  664. [14:14:52] <av500> woglinde: ocd != opencv
  665. [14:15:24] <woglinde> okay okay you can copy
  666. [14:15:47] <av500> woglinde: any meds you forgot to take?
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  668. [14:16:04] <woglinde> ah ocd means here on chip debugger
  669. [14:16:05] <woglinde> hehe
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  671. [14:17:08] <jedix> does anyone know if it's possible to tell the beagleboard to load xloader/MLO off the memory card instead of nand? maybe using boot.scr or something?
  672. [14:17:10] <woglinde> uh
  673. [14:17:12] <woglinde> means Obsessive-compulsive disorder
  674. [14:17:14] <woglinde> too
  675. [14:17:20] <av500> woglinde: hence the meds :)
  676. [14:17:29] <av500> jedix: wipe the nand
  677. [14:17:38] <woglinde> jedix read the manual
  678. [14:17:55] <woglinde> hint hold one of the buttons
  679. [14:18:18] <woglinde> after you formated the sd-card the right way
  680. [14:18:25] <woglinde> and didnt forgot to put it in
  681. [14:19:32] <jedix> yeah, I was hoping I could write it to an sd card and not need to hold the user button.
  682. [14:19:36] <jedix> av500: thanks
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  704. [15:10:28] <jeremiah_> So I'm holding the user button, and I do believe I have a properly formatted SD card, but I cannot get my little board to boot from the SD card.
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  706. [15:11:13] <cwarrior> hi. i am new beagle board user. i have been able to boot Angstrom. The issue is i am not getting HDMI output.
  707. [15:11:31] <cwillu> jeremiah_, got a serial connection hooked up to the beagle?
  708. [15:11:50] <cwillu> cwarrior, video output specifically?
  709. [15:12:27] <jeremiah_> cwillu: Yes, I have a serial cable hooked up. :)
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  711. [15:12:38] <cwarrior> yes. on serial i can boot and login into angstrom
  712. [15:12:45] <cwillu> jeremiah_, what do you see when it boots? and what's your kernel command line?
  713. [15:13:05] <cwillu> cwarrior, are you setting a resolution on the kernel command line?
  714. [15:13:20] <cwillu> cwarrior, I believe the docs in http://gitorious.org/linux-omap-dss2 are up to date
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  716. [15:13:35] <cwarrior> no. i am not aware how to do that
  717. [15:13:38] <cwarrior> thanks
  718. [15:13:50] <cwillu> let me get you a better link
  719. [15:14:30] <cwillu> cwarrior, http://gitorious.org/linux-omap-dss2/linux/blobs/master/Documentation/arm/OMAP/DSS
  720. [15:14:36] <jeremiah_> cwillu: Well, I have a boot.scr file. Is that what I should dump to show you the kernel command line?
  721. [15:14:52] <cwillu> jeremiah_, print_env
  722. [15:15:06] <cwillu> (which will take into account whatever is in the flash environment)
  723. [15:15:30] <cwillu> cwarrior, omapfb.mode=1024x768MR-24@60 or whatever
  724. [15:15:51] <cwillu> I think you need an vram=2M or whatever as well
  725. [15:15:58] <cwillu> but it's all in that file
  726. [15:15:59] <jeremiah_> cwillu: It says, amongst other things when I boot: "Loading uboot.bin from nand"
  727. [15:16:06] <cwillu> jeremiah_, pastebin please
  728. [15:16:10] <cwillu> http://paste.pocoo.org/
  729. [15:16:16] <jeremiah_> cwillu: Will do. :)
  730. [15:16:29] <cwarrior> cwillu, i am using the demo image of angstrom at http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/ i was hoping that display sytem would be up to date.
  731. [15:16:51] <cwillu> cwarrior, it probably is
  732. [15:16:57] <cwillu> that doesn't mean you don't have to configure it
  733. [15:17:11] <_koen_> if you're using angstrom, check the /boot/DSS file
  734. [15:17:29] <cwillu> ah good, somebody who knows :)
  735. [15:17:34] <_koen_> that doc should match the kernel
  736. [15:18:30] <cwarrior> _koen_ is that for me
  737. [15:18:52] <_koen_> if you want to know DSS args, yes
  738. [15:19:04] <_koen_> if 'setenv dvimode foo' is not enough
  739. [15:19:23] <jeremiah_> cwillu: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/293112/
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  741. [15:20:05] <cwillu> vram=12c doesn't look right, but that might be something I don't know about
  742. [15:20:36] <cwillu> jeremiah_, it just hangs after "booting kernel"?
  743. [15:20:46] <cwillu> do the led's flash at all at that point, or do they just stay on solid?
  744. [15:21:09] <cwarrior> _koen_ could you elaborate on that
  745. [15:21:14] <jeremiah_> Yeah, it hangs after booting the kernel and then on the screen I see some Ubuntu kernel messages
  746. [15:21:17] <cwillu> jeremiah_, adding "console=ttyS2" or "console=ttyO2" (if you're on a 2.6.37 kernel) might be more enlightening
  747. [15:21:33] <jeremiah_> Then it appears to drop into a initramfs shell from which I cannot execute commands
  748. [15:21:53] <cwillu> jeremiah_, okay, add "console=ttyS2" to the bootargs
  749. [15:21:59] <cwillu> that'll put the boot messages on the serial prompt
  750. [15:22:07] <cwillu> also, you may want to bug the folks in #ubuntu-arm
  751. [15:22:13] <jeremiah_> nice
  752. [15:22:18] <jeremiah_> okay, I'll do that.
  753. [15:22:23] <jeremiah_> Thanks cwillu
  754. [15:22:28] <cwillu> np
  755. [15:22:42] <jeremiah_> cwillu: The leds all stay solid
  756. [15:22:45] <jeremiah_> That is kinda weird
  757. [15:22:49] <jeremiah_> They never did that before.
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  759. [15:23:07] <cwarrior> when i power up the beagle board (c4), shouldn't i be getting a beagle image on display?
  760. [15:23:07] <jeremiah_> I wonder if it is because I went from a small image to a larger one on the SD card.
  761. [15:24:34] <koen> to get rid of bogus uboot env: nand erase 260000 20000
  762. [15:25:34] <av500> koen: or: "digikey order xm"
  763. [15:27:46] <cwillu> I like that one!
  764. [15:27:55] <cwillu> sudo apt-get install digikey
  765. [15:30:57] <jeremiah_> koen: What happens if you erase the nand? Can you boot from an SD card or USB?
  766. [15:31:03] <jeremiah_> Or do you have to replace the nand?
  767. [15:31:13] <av500> yes
  768. [15:31:15] <av500> boot from sd
  769. [15:31:17] <av500> or usb
  770. [15:31:19] <av500> ir serial
  771. [15:31:21] <av500> or
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  773. [15:32:52] <jeremiah_> Umm. You guys rock.
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  775. [15:33:06] <jeremiah_> Now my beagle is booting from my SD card . . .
  776. [15:33:17] <jeremiah_> Lights are flashing . . .
  777. [15:33:22] <av500> omg
  778. [15:33:30] <woglinde> and now its burn the cpu
  779. [15:33:33] <av500> you activated the self destruct
  780. [15:33:34] <woglinde> hihi
  781. [15:33:35] <av500> RUN!
  782. [15:33:43] <jeremiah_> Yikes!!
  783. [15:33:48] <jeremiah_> Smoke everywhere!
  784. [15:33:50] <jeremiah_> Flames!
  785. [15:33:50] <av500> empty NAND is like a bomb
  786. [15:33:56] <jeremiah_> aaahhhhh!
  787. [15:34:16] <jeremiah_> *poof*
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  789. [15:36:49] <jpsaman> _roger_: ping
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  792. [15:44:44] <cwarrior> *tv
  793. [15:44:53] <cwarrior> in boot env, dvimode=640x480MR-16@60, defaultdisplay=dvi, omapfb.mode=dvi${dvimode} <- what do i need to set it as to get it working with my tc
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  795. [15:45:25] <woglinde> cwarrior might depens on the tv
  796. [15:46:13] <aholler> why does the bb don't read edid? isn't that not connected or just no one has written the nedded sw?
  797. [15:46:39] <woglinde> aholler you didnt notice a lot of edid stuff is shitty like acpi?
  798. [15:46:42] <woglinde> tables
  799. [15:46:59] <av500> aholler: patches welcome
  800. [15:47:08] <aholler> so it is connected?
  801. [15:47:11] <av500> yes
  802. [15:47:47] <aholler> than we have identified something to do for those who are forking the std-serial ;)
  803. [15:47:58] <av500> woglinde: easy, assume edid to fail and fallback to VGA instantly :)
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  805. [15:48:54] <woglinde> av500 this works on a tv?
  806. [15:49:00] <cwarrior> woglinde: if i have lower resolution setup, is it possible that i don't get any o/p
  807. [15:49:08] <aholler> woglinde: it can't be worse than the actual solution. And it is really long time ago, since I've seen a monitor with wrong edid-information
  808. [15:49:24] <woglinde> aholler we are talking about tv
  809. [15:49:28] <woglinde> or not?
  810. [15:49:33] <av500> woglinde: VGA is a *requiered* hdmi mode
  811. [15:49:34] <aholler> and hdmi, not?
  812. [15:49:48] * cwillu_at_work rolls into work
  813. [15:50:04] <woglinde> cwarrior tv or monitor?
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  815. [15:50:41] <aholler> maybe vga, but not that MR, I'm having a tv and moni both don't like that MR
  816. [15:50:42] * cwillu_at_work surveys the carnage
  817. [15:50:56] <cwarrior> tv
  818. [15:51:26] <cwarrior> what do you recommend
  819. [15:51:38] <av500> is your TV vga only?
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  821. [15:52:30] <woglinde> hm
  822. [15:52:44] <woglinde> thats looks intressting from jknrider
  823. [15:52:46] <woglinde> http://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation/scripts
  824. [15:52:51] <woglinde> try hd720
  825. [15:53:05] <woglinde> maybee you need some other options for omapfb
  826. [15:53:07] <cwarrior> nope. has full hd
  827. [15:53:11] <woglinde> too
  828. [15:53:18] <woglinde> ?
  829. [15:53:27] <mru> 1080p on beagle isn't a good idea
  830. [15:53:30] <woglinde> a fullhd dont support 720?
  831. [15:53:37] <av500> cwarrior: so why 640x480MR-16
  832. [15:53:39] <mru> 720 is required
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  834. [15:55:26] <cwarrior> so do you mean to say 640x480 would not be giving any o/p?
  835. [15:55:43] <mru> no
  836. [15:55:50] <mru> TVs are required to support 720p
  837. [15:56:22] <av500> and vga...
  838. [15:56:29] <av500> if they are "hmdi" certified
  839. [15:56:52] <woglinde> are there such tv's?
  840. [15:57:00] <av500> hdmi certified ones?
  841. [15:57:09] <av500> all that have hdmi connector...
  842. [15:57:10] <woglinde> not hdmo certified
  843. [15:57:16] <mru> unfortunately most vendors seem to believe they are forbidden from supporting anything not on the list
  844. [15:57:43] <av500> or that they need to do overscan :)
  845. [15:57:57] <mru> many new models allow disabling that
  846. [15:58:04] <av500> yes
  847. [15:58:12] <cwarrior> oh alright. spent a lot of time figuring the error
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  849. [16:00:11] <woglinde> hm?
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  860. [16:27:04] <aholler> edid: http://markmail.org/message/jyoz5yahtdmxlw4e
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  862. [16:28:28] <woglinde> aholler hm seems he never tried to get it upstream
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  865. [16:29:34] <aholler> no wonder regarding all those changes in dss
  866. [16:29:55] * calculus (~calculus@gentoo/user/calculus) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
  867. [16:30:01] <woglinde> but its funny anyway
  868. [16:30:12] <woglinde> board-omap3beagle.c
  869. [16:30:20] <woglinde> #ifdef CONFIG_I2C2_OMAP_BEAGLE
  870. [16:30:56] <mru> what does the omap4 kernel use for hdmi modesetting?
  871. [16:31:04] <mru> it seems to detect whatever is plugged in correctly
  872. [16:31:13] <mru> even reconfigures on hotplug
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  874. [16:31:32] <mru> of course the code involved is even uglier than that patch
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  876. [16:33:02] <cwillu_at_work> mru, it's just edid afaik
  877. [16:33:09] <cwillu_at_work> I remember seeing those patches bouncing around
  878. [16:33:12] <woglinde> mru code is now nearly 2 years old
  879. [16:33:22] <mru> point being that it exists and works
  880. [16:33:24] <woglinde> so maybee it looks better now
  881. [16:33:29] <mru> someone should clean it up of course
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  883. [16:33:41] <mru> the omap4 kernel is a horrible mess
  884. [16:33:52] <woglinde> hehe
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  886. [16:34:10] <woglinde> give ti some lessons on doing kernelprogramming
  887. [16:34:24] <mru> topfs2: so if you get an xm, will you do 100fps?
  888. [16:35:13] <topfs2> Is it sgx530?
  889. [16:35:19] <mru> woglinde: they need a lesson in aesthetics
  890. [16:35:29] <aholler> there is an edid-patch for u-boot too
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  892. [16:35:42] <av500> mru: +1
  893. [16:36:05] <av500> aholler: please. np in uboot
  894. [16:36:06] <mru> aholler: u-boot can't really do hotplug very well
  895. [16:36:13] <av500> aholler: please, not in uboot
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  897. [16:36:27] <av500> unless you add me a lil' scheduler and a vfs...
  898. [16:36:43] <aholler> I'm not interested, just seen that.
  899. [16:36:48] <mru> av500: and vm
  900. [16:36:57] <cwillu_at_work> av500, ipsec! ipsec!
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  903. [16:37:16] <topfs2> and mru I'm not entirely sure if I might not pass it on to another team member, perhaps the linux distro makers so they can do something easily dd
  904. [16:37:23] <cwillu_at_work> aholler, there will _not_ be ipsec in u-boot, shame on you for suggesting it
  905. [16:37:28] <topfs2> so its easier for the users
  906. [16:37:37] <mru> users are overrated
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  908. [16:38:27] <aholler> I would suggest v6, could be usefull for tftp
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  911. [16:40:03] <av500> add least add SDL to uboot so we can run scummvm
  912. [16:40:38] <aholler> add u-boot to scummvm would be better ;)
  913. [16:41:00] <mru> do both
  914. [16:41:20] <mru> then you could run scummvm in scummvm
  915. [16:41:29] <mru> emulators all the way down
  916. [16:41:53] <dm8tbr> yo dawg, we herd you like scummvm???
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  923. [16:45:54] <aholler> dss(2) is a miracle. I never got it do display the whole bb-screen on my tv. there's always missing a part on the left.
  924. [16:46:12] * mru blames aholler's tv
  925. [16:46:38] <av500> aholler: could be overscan
  926. [16:46:39] <aholler> no, all other devices like them ;)
  927. [16:46:49] <woglinde> add libwine into uboot and run windows 3.1
  928. [16:46:53] <aholler> I've turned it off
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  930. [16:47:21] <aholler> and I see a black border left of the bb-screen, just like a window over the fb is wrong
  931. [16:47:36] <woglinde> damn whats exitcode 256
  932. [16:47:39] <woglinde> in bb su
  933. [16:47:52] <av500> an 8 bit overflow?
  934. [16:47:55] <cwarrior> hi, i am still unable to get the hdmi output
  935. [16:47:57] <woglinde> aholler which kernel?
  936. [16:48:09] <woglinde> cwarrior which kernel?
  937. [16:48:23] <cwarrior> my dvimode settings are 1280X720MR-32@60
  938. [16:48:28] <aholler> various, ubuntu 8.4, upto dss2 from linux-omap
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  940. [16:48:38] <cwarrior> i am using angstrom demo image at http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
  941. [16:48:41] <woglinde> o.O
  942. [16:48:47] <aholler> I have this since I have the bb
  943. [16:48:51] <woglinde> cwarrior hd720 isnt working?
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  945. [16:49:13] <cwarrior> linux beagle board 2.6.32
  946. [16:49:24] <woglinde> cwarrior yes its the psp kernel
  947. [16:49:53] <cwarrior> woglinde, what is hd720, is it a defined variable?
  948. [16:50:20] * cwillu_at_work blames ds2
  949. [16:50:23] <woglinde> I guess a mode for omapfb which gets translated right inside the omafp modul
  950. [16:50:55] <aholler> av500: yes looks an 8bit overflow
  951. [16:51:07] <aholler> or whatever ;)
  952. [16:51:38] <cwarrior> could you guide me further on it, i am using beagleboard for the first time
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  954. [16:52:14] <woglinde> hm but looks like its only for beagle xm
  955. [16:53:18] <cwarrior> woglinde, what all boot parameters can be looked into
  956. [16:53:32] <woglinde> hm maybee this helps
  957. [16:53:33] <woglinde> http://groups.google.com/group/0xlab-devel/browse_thread/thread/9f4a8c205dec711d/164398e5316e17e6%3C/span%3E
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  959. [16:54:44] <cwarrior> i am not even getting the startup screen - the BBLogo on power on
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  961. [16:54:56] <aholler> the logo is long gone
  962. [16:55:03] <woglinde> should be green
  963. [16:55:11] <woglinde> the whole screen
  964. [16:55:15] <woglinde> I heard
  965. [16:55:18] <woglinde> or orange
  966. [16:55:21] <woglinde> or was organe xm
  967. [16:55:36] <aholler> does the xm use a different kernel?
  968. [16:55:37] <av500> cwarrior: get uptodate files
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  970. [16:56:28] <woglinde> hihi
  971. [16:56:29] <woglinde> http://cgit.openembedded.net/cgit.cgi?url=openembedded/commit/&id=687a7700eabaa53b1187947b6f3b4f1662b9bbb6
  972. [16:56:35] <woglinde> that was even for 2.6.28
  973. [16:56:43] <cwarrior> uptodate files for? i download angstrom image from http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
  974. [16:57:21] <woglinde> mom I will show you the other stuff from till for 800x480 screen
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  976. [16:58:32] <woglinde> ~lart wikis
  977. [16:58:45] <woglinde> http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Meego_on_Beagleboard_from_scratch#Custom_video_settings
  978. [17:01:13] <av500> cwarrior: still, where did you get that 640x480 setting from? all the bb demos I know start dvi with 1280x1024 or so
  979. [17:02:07] <woglinde> some shitty blog entry?
  980. [17:02:22] <cwarrior> i had this by default, on my beagleboard. i have c4
  981. [17:02:36] <woglinde> hm
  982. [17:03:07] <av500> cwarrior: please, download one of the complete demo images and dd it to a sdcard
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  984. [17:03:15] <av500> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/sd-images/2gb/
  985. [17:03:21] <cwarrior> I tried setenv bootargs 'console=ttyS2,115200n8 console=tty0 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rw rootfstype=ext3 rootwait omapdss.def_disp=dvi omapfb.mode=dvi:1024x768MR-24@60'
  986. [17:03:22] <woglinde> av500 I am checking oe now
  987. [17:03:40] <av500> cwarrior: Angstrom-Beagleboard-demo-image-glibc-ipk-2010.3-beagleboard.sd-image-2GiB.img.bz2
  988. [17:03:47] <av500> from the above url
  989. [17:03:54] <av500> unzip and dd onto your sdcard
  990. [17:04:06] <woglinde> unzip?
  991. [17:04:12] <woglinde> bunzip
  992. [17:04:30] <av500> woglinde: well yes
  993. [17:04:35] <cwarrior> i did Angstrom-Beagleboard-demo-image-glibc-ipk-2010.3-beagleboard.rootfs.tar.bz2 today morning
  994. [17:04:45] <av500> ok
  995. [17:04:55] <av500> err no
  996. [17:04:59] <av500> thats the rootfs
  997. [17:05:05] <av500> please use the complete image
  998. [17:05:13] <av500> with MLO/uboot/kernel/rootfs
  999. [17:05:48] <cwarrior> i am still not getting the video out
  1000. [17:06:01] <av500> please use the complete image for a test
  1001. [17:06:44] <av500> if I was koen, I would hide all the contents on that demo page excepts the full image
  1002. [17:06:55] <woglinde> *g*
  1003. [17:06:59] <woglinde> okay time to go home
  1004. [17:07:46] <cwarrior> but i can login using the serial and all
  1005. [17:08:01] <av500> so?
  1006. [17:08:11] <woglinde> lol
  1007. [17:08:17] <woglinde> thats standard
  1008. [17:08:25] <av500> running a serial console is about the easiest task for any hardware
  1009. [17:08:31] <cwarrior> and can even play the movie, without output ofcourse, sound is fine as well
  1010. [17:08:57] <woglinde> I suggest buy a supprted tv
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  1016. [17:12:02] <cwarrior> av500: so do you mean that Angstrom-Beagleboard-demo-image-glibc-ipk-2010.3-beagleboard.rootfs.tar.bz2 does not have the required drivers?
  1017. [17:12:14] <cwarrior> but i am not even getting the BB-Image on powering the board on, why so?
  1018. [17:12:28] <av500> because there is none
  1019. [17:12:36] <av500> it is long gone
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  1021. [17:14:41] <cwarrior> oh alright
  1022. [17:15:21] <cwarrior> Angstrom-Beagleboard-demo-image-glibc-ipk-2010.3-beagleboard.sd-image-2GiB.img.bz2 is the entire disk image?
  1023. [17:15:46] <cwarrior> av500: how many partitions should i make to use that
  1024. [17:15:51] <av500> none
  1025. [17:15:57] <av500> it will make them for you
  1026. [17:16:06] <av500> dd if=image of=/dev/sdX
  1027. [17:16:18] <av500> and bunzip2 image.bz2 before
  1028. [17:17:51] <cwarrior> oh cool. i wonder why it was kept inside the subdirectories
  1029. [17:18:36] <cwarrior> it is then a lot more easier to run the demo that way
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  1031. [17:26:05] <GatorBoz> Anyone have the Flyswatter JTAG configuration files for Beagleboard for use with OpenOCD?
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  1035. [17:34:21] <aholler> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11/18/ventblockers_2/
  1036. [17:35:32] <aholler> I assume the bb has more power under the hood than all of these pcs ;)
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  1104. [19:49:08] <GatorBoz_> is anyone here using the Flyswatter for JTAG debugging?
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  1106. [19:53:23] <cwarrior> hi is it possible to use an hdmi - hdmi cable instead of a hdmi - dvi with beagle board?
  1107. [19:53:45] <koen> yes
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  1111. [19:54:21] <cwarrior> then i am unable to figure out why i can not get the hdmi output working
  1112. [19:55:12] <cwarrior> my boot parameter for dvimode is 1280x720MR-32@60
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  1114. [19:55:50] <cwarrior> and my tv works for this configuration for other devices such as my laptop
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  1116. [19:59:18] <woglinde> cwarriro you used your tv with dvi cable?
  1117. [19:59:24] <woglinde> hdmi-dvi
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  1119. [20:00:29] <cwarrior> hdmi to hdmi
  1120. [20:00:32] <_av500_> cwarrior: is this now the 2GB demo image?
  1121. [20:00:37] <cwarrior> yes
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  1123. [20:01:35] <woglinde> cwarrior and hd720 dont works too?
  1124. [20:02:35] <cwarrior> wodlinde, i don't understand what is meant by hd720, is it a pre-defined variable?
  1125. [20:02:46] <woglinde> *sigh* yes
  1126. [20:03:03] <woglinde> and I showed patch what is doing inside the kernel
  1127. [20:03:15] <woglinde> its a modeline shortcut
  1128. [20:03:46] <cwarrior> ok i'll try ang get back to you
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  1132. [20:05:06] <cwarrior> wodlinde, i am sorry if i am asking very fundamental doubts. i don't have any experience with this before. i am a high school student.
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  1134. [20:05:40] <_av500_> np
  1135. [20:10:33] <woglinde> cwarrior no problem, at least you have the ability to read
  1136. [20:10:44] <woglinde> reading is the key to most stuff
  1137. [20:11:33] <_av500_> reawhat?
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  1139. [20:17:59] <cwarrior> wooho, it worked :D
  1140. [20:18:13] <cwarrior> thanks woglinde and _av500_
  1141. [20:18:13] <woglinde> hd720?
  1142. [20:18:16] <woglinde> ????
  1143. [20:18:26] <woglinde> I think I told it 5 times
  1144. [20:18:28] <woglinde> or more
  1145. [20:18:32] <_av500_> 5.5
  1146. [20:19:01] <cwarrior> lol. can i use a usb mouse or a keyboard with it - plug and play?
  1147. [20:19:10] <woglinde> yes
  1148. [20:19:12] <_av500_> hub
  1149. [20:19:17] <woglinde> try a powered hub
  1150. [20:19:47] <cwarrior> i wouldn't need a hub if i am using only one of those, right?
  1151. [20:20:24] <cwarrior> it does not seem to work that way
  1152. [20:21:47] <_av500_> no
  1153. [20:21:55] <_av500_> u need hub for low speed devices
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  1158. [20:27:15] <cwarrior> I am connecting a usb mouse directly to the usb port. It is not detecting it.
  1159. [20:27:31] <cwarrior> when i say lsusb - i get the following error:
  1160. [20:27:41] <woglinde> hm
  1161. [20:27:48] <woglinde> dmesg is more intressting
  1162. [20:27:54] <mru> cwarrior: you need a hub
  1163. [20:27:59] <cwarrior> hub 1-0:1-0: Cannot enable port 2. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
  1164. [20:28:20] <woglinde> cwarrior seems I was wrong with you can read
  1165. [20:28:37] <woglinde> -> < _av500_> u need hub for low speed devices
  1166. [20:30:39] <_av500_> U NEED A HUB
  1167. [20:31:11] <cwillu_at_work> cwarrior, the usb on a beagle only speaks highspeed. In order to talk to a low or full speed device, you need a hub to translate, basically.
  1168. [20:31:48] <cwillu_at_work> also, make sure you're using a power supply with the beagle, and not just powering it over the otg port.
  1169. [20:32:07] <cwarrior> oh alright.
  1170. [20:32:27] <cwarrior> yeah i am using an external power supply
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  1181. [20:51:20] <aksh1> i am creating rootfs of ubuntu using rootstock command
  1182. [20:52:00] <aksh1> is there any way to copy required deb packages to local system so that next time while creating rootfs i can use local path
  1183. [20:52:12] <aksh1> instaed of ubuntu repository
  1184. [20:52:18] <_av500_> #ubuntu-arm
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  1186. [20:52:37] <_av500_> or _
  1187. [20:52:42] <cwillu_at_work> better yet, google
  1188. [20:56:49] <aksh1> there is option --copy-cache but it has already bugs saying it is not supported
  1189. [20:58:10] <_av500_> ask in some ubuntu place
  1190. [20:58:18] <_av500_> that will give you more help
  1191. [20:59:06] <aksh1> _av500_, thanks
  1192. [20:59:15] <aksh1> there i got answer as google
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  1204. [21:13:27] * _av500_ goes for beers
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  1208. [21:14:32] * dm8tbr goes for gin
  1209. [21:15:00] <dm8tbr> time to try the bombay saphire that was on sale in duty free
  1210. [21:15:05] <_av500_> forgin' what?
  1211. [21:15:14] <mru> patches
  1212. [21:15:30] <ds2> OTG doesn't need a hub ;)
  1213. [21:16:05] <mru> ds2: no, only a large dose of luck
  1214. [21:16:31] * aksh1 (~aksh1@115.118.186.191) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
  1215. [21:16:33] * ds2 whistles innocently
  1216. [21:16:54] <mru> whistling indoors brings bad luck
  1217. [21:17:22] <ds2> having dealt with MUSB before.. I don't think that matters :P
  1218. [21:17:39] <mru> but _why_ do you think you had to deal with it?
  1219. [21:17:51] <mru> because you whistled, of course!
  1220. [21:17:58] <ds2> :P
  1221. [21:25:16] <jonpry> what is musb?
  1222. [21:26:15] <jonpry> i am having some trouble figuring out how to write a driver for ulpi phy
  1223. [21:26:49] * theholyduck (~holyduck@82.147.59.59) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
  1224. [21:27:05] <jfu> micro usb perhaps?
  1225. [21:27:17] <jfu> im just guessing. have no idea
  1226. [21:27:17] <mru> mental usb
  1227. [21:27:56] <jonpry> i just don't understand the architecture. like on msm, there is a driver for the ulpi. they call it msm_72kudc or some such thing, and you just put the phy specific stuff as a byte array in platform data
  1228. [21:28:04] <jonpry> but on this thing i just don't get it atm
  1229. [21:29:02] * pcacjr (~pcacjr@unaffiliated/pcacjr) Quit (Quit: Lost terminal)
  1230. [21:31:34] <jonpry> mentor usb. but i have no idea what it is for. i think i need ehci
  1231. [21:34:52] <Ceriand|work> musb is the On-the-go USB controller, the EHCI controller is host only
  1232. [21:35:25] <jonpry> so the mentor core is something in omap?
  1233. [21:35:48] <Ceriand|work> yes, TI used an IP core from Mentor Graphics for the OTG controller
  1234. [21:36:19] <jonpry> ah. that makes sense
  1235. [21:36:33] <Ceriand|work> they used another IP core from someone else for the EHCI
  1236. [21:36:52] <jonpry> and those are both multiplexed on the same pins?
  1237. [21:36:58] <Ceriand|work> no
  1238. [21:37:10] <Ceriand|work> musb is on the hsusb0 pins
  1239. [21:37:18] <Ceriand|work> ehci/ohci is on the rest
  1240. [21:37:39] <jonpry> in that case musb it is. thanks it has been blowing my mind
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  1242. [21:38:04] <Ceriand|work> np, the USB stuff on the OMAP is frustrating as hell
  1243. [21:38:42] <jonpry> never a dull moment
  1244. [21:39:33] <Ceriand|work> If there's a problem with the musb driver, good luck on getting the docs for it
  1245. [21:39:51] <ds2> musb is the finest thing this planet has to offer
  1246. [21:39:53] <Ceriand|work> It took me over 4 months to get them
  1247. [21:40:28] <ds2> the docs are out there in non NDA form, hiding in plain sight
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  1250. [21:41:44] <jonpry> i don't suspect anything wrong, i just am using a different phy
  1251. [21:44:39] <Ceriand|work> jonpry: which one?
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  1256. [21:53:25] <jkridner> Jefro: Regarding Helma: I like it for several reasons: 1) Hosted on JAVA, so I could put it on Google Apps, the BeagleBoard, etc.
  1257. [21:53:49] <jkridner> 2) Coded with JavaScript, so it is the same language on the client side as the host.
  1258. [21:54:19] <jkridner> 3) Uses an XML database, allowing me to easily keep the entire site with git, no SQL.
  1259. [21:54:21] <jonpry> Ceriand|work: us3320
  1260. [21:54:27] <jonpry> *usb3320
  1261. [21:54:43] <Ceriand|work> smsc?
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  1263. [21:55:03] <jonpry> yeah
  1264. [21:55:10] <Ceriand|work> that's the same one I use
  1265. [21:55:14] <Ceriand|work> for musb
  1266. [21:55:49] * katie_ (~katierh@nat/ti/x-ydaqzylnutnqftdi) Quit ()
  1267. [21:55:49] <jonpry> cool, care to share? on what board?
  1268. [21:56:02] <Ceriand|work> on a project here at work
  1269. [21:56:22] <jonpry> ic, so not opensource yet?
  1270. [21:56:50] <Ceriand|work> doesn't really use anything special kernel-wise
  1271. [21:57:29] <Ceriand|work> the nop phy driver works just fine
  1272. [21:57:52] <jonpry> nop phy driver?
  1273. [21:58:21] <Ceriand|work> CONFIG_NOP_USB_XCEIV
  1274. [21:59:37] <jonpry> i will look into that. you don't send any special ulpi commands for setting up the internal regulators?
  1275. [21:59:48] <Ceriand|work> nope
  1276. [22:00:15] <jonpry> well that sounds easy enough
  1277. [22:00:21] <jonpry> what about the vbus detector?
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  1279. [22:02:04] <Ceriand|work> we just use a 10k between the port and the phy since we only operate in device mode on that port
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  1282. [22:03:03] <jonpry> ah, yeah i have the shabang setup. otg power via boots converter and battery charging in device mode
  1283. [22:03:29] <jonpry> why musb not in drivers/usb/otg?
  1284. [22:05:42] <jonpry> *gadget
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  1293. [22:34:12] <Jefro> jkridner - sorry I missed this earlier, was called into a meeting
  1294. [22:34:25] <jkridner> np
  1295. [22:34:31] <Jefro> those are all good reasons
  1296. [22:34:47] <jkridner> I need a bit of arm-twisting to change the CMS...
  1297. [22:34:57] <jkridner> but, I am tired of managing it mostly alone.
  1298. [22:35:04] <jkridner> some folks do know how to edit it...
  1299. [22:35:22] <jkridner> I've considered adding WYSIWYG editing, which shouldn't be too tough.
  1300. [22:35:56] <Jefro> I'm very familiar with raw HTML, CSS, and I can fake ECMAscript if someone hums it
  1301. [22:36:28] <ds2> mmmm raw HTML
  1302. [22:36:29] <jkridner> hmm... hmmm... hmm...
  1303. [22:36:35] <ds2> food of champions ;)
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  1305. [22:36:56] <jkridner> Jefro: do you know the magic incantation to edit beagleboard.org?
  1306. [22:37:23] <jkridner> also, git patches are happily read/considered.
  1307. [22:37:28] <Jefro> jkridner nope - in fact I was just trying ot figure out how to log in. I have a beagleboard.org addr, but I think it logs me in using openid, which is a different addr.
  1308. [22:37:40] <Jefro> git might be the easiest method for updates
  1309. [22:38:05] <jkridner> http://www.beagleboard.org/gitweb
  1310. [22:38:37] <Jefro> aha - cool
  1311. [22:38:47] <jkridner> BeagleBot runs on the web server.
  1312. [22:39:06] <jkridner> er, not the machine, but the program.
  1313. [22:39:15] <Jefro> is that how it picks up beagle news for the running blog?
  1314. [22:39:29] <jkridner> no, that is Google Reader and a Yahoo Pipe...
  1315. [22:39:58] <Jefro> so it will break when Yahoo files bankruptcy? <duck>
  1316. [22:40:02] <jkridner> one of the tasks I keep planning to do is to automatically import that Yahoo Pipe into native articles to have them archived and to organize them.
  1317. [22:40:09] <jkridner> :)
  1318. [22:40:29] <jkridner> I think Yahoo is OK.
  1319. [22:41:15] <Jefro> they are outsourcing a bunch of their services that used to be native - I think they will be around for a while yet, but they are being trounced by google and bing
  1320. [22:41:22] <Jefro> for ad $
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  1322. [22:42:54] <jkridner> anyway, I need to run, but I'm open to suggestions. looking at the code should tell you how to edit it live (without git).
  1323. [22:43:05] <jkridner> I don't really like all the escape codes on the raw content. :(
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  1325. [22:43:13] <Jefro> very cool, thanks - I'm running too but will look
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  1331. [23:09:16] <_koen_> damn, tickets to SFO are expensive
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  1335. [23:13:52] <_av500_> how much?
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  1343. [23:58:42] <sakoman_> koen: when are you coming to SFO?
  1344. [23:59:06] <sakoman_> I'll be there on 12/1 & 2

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