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IRC Log for 2010-11-23

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[00:36:45] <brolin> hello, I followed the instructions in the page ubuntubeagleboard from elinux. But after power my BBoard the system don't boot. Someone has any idea of what happen there?
[00:37:21] <brolin> i used the ./setup_sdcard.sh
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[00:55:49] <Jefro> hi brolin
[00:56:53] <Jefro> I was also not able to get my xM working using setup_sdcard.sh. There are two methods I recommend. One is for setting up a development environment, if e.g. you want to create new drivers etc. For that, use the rootstock method described on that page.
[00:57:52] <Jefro> If you just want to get Ubuntu running on your board, I highly recommend rsalveti's pre-installed images (link shortly)
[00:58:40] <Jefro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAPMaverickInstall
[00:59:35] <Jefro> jkridner UT meeting shortly?
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[01:01:32] <djlewis> Jefro: he announced this morning CSt he is going on vacation.
[01:01:47] <Jefro> ah yes, that's right - forgot about that
[01:01:54] <Jefro> thanks djlewis
[01:02:01] <djlewis> sure :)
[01:02:06] <rcn-ee> brolin, by not booting, what is the output on the serial port?
[01:05:04] <Jefro> Any UT students who need help, feel free to ping me
[01:08:48] <tdh2002> jefro:What does UT mean?
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[01:09:41] <Jefro> tdh2002 UT is the University of Texas, where beagleboard.org is sponsoring a challenge for students.
[01:09:49] <Jefro> hi cwicks
[01:10:10] <cwicks> Hi Jefro sorry I'm late - do we have any students from U texas tonight yet?
[01:10:14] <Jefro> tdh2002 - more information is at http://beagleboard.org/challenge
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[01:10:32] <Jefro> cwicks none that I have seen yet. I sat on the call for a bit, but no one was there.
[01:10:34] <Jefro> hi katie
[01:10:53] * Jefro was wondering if perhaps the univ. is out this week for the holiday
[01:11:11] <cwicks> Usually note
[01:11:12] <_pseudonym> no, not until wed
[01:11:24] <katie> Hi Jefro
[01:11:24] <cwicks> Oh hello pseudonym!
[01:11:38] <cwicks> Does anyone want a voice call tonight or only IRC?
[01:11:43] <_pseudonym> hi cwicks et al
[01:12:13] <Jefro> IRC works best for me - multitasking, plus stuffing my face :)
[01:14:04] <brolin> Jefro: thanks, i gonna see the link
[01:14:17] <tdh2002> jefro:Can students in China join in the Challenge?
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[01:14:59] <brolin> rcn-ee: when don't push the user buttom, don't pass of I2C verification
[01:15:08] <jkridner2> checking in from vacation...
[01:15:28] <Jefro> hi jkridner2! you're not supposed to do that
[01:15:29] <jkridner2> any UT students on needing help?
[01:15:35] <cwicks> Hi Jason - we are glad to see you!
[01:15:40] <Jefro> tdh2002 This one is limited to students at the Univ. of Texas, and it has been going on for several weeks
[01:15:50] <bjrosas> brandon rosas from UT here
[01:15:53] <brolin> rcn-ee: with the user buttom pressed, go until "android_usb gadget: high speed config #1: android"
[01:16:00] <jkridner2> of course not, but when has that stopped me. :-)
[01:16:19] <Jefro> tdh2002 beagleboard.org also participated in the Google Summer of Code this year, which was very successful
[01:16:20] <brolin> rcn-ee: if i press enter, i get a little console
[01:16:38] <cwicks> Hi tdh2002 - TI has quite a lot going on with university students in China - you can get more info and contact our program at http://www1.ti.com.cn/uprogram/ they often have contests for students each year
[01:16:39] <rcn-ee> brolin, that's a little weird.. which I2C verification test..
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[01:18:52] <brolin> rcn-ee: look http://pastebin.com/NLFvW5PR
[01:18:53] <thurbad> I think the i2c check is in newer versions of u-boot
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[01:20:01] <rcn-ee> brolin, yeah, that's a faq... you need to upgrade u-boot over to 1.4.4ss if you used my 'setup_sdcard.sh' with the "--boot beagle" option, just hold down the user button on power up... it'll reflash the nand with the latest x-load/u-boot..
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[01:20:19] <rcn-ee> --boot/--uboot (sorry)
[01:20:54] <rcn-ee> and the first u-boot is 'x-load' where's my coffee. ;)
[01:21:41] <Jefro> rcn-ee here, have some of mine
[01:22:05] <cwicks> bjrosas - hello Beaglescan - what is your update from this week?
[01:22:29] <rcn-ee> with Irish whiskey ? ;)
[01:22:30] * jkridner2 will likely drop quickly
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[01:23:22] <jkridner2> hi prpplague
[01:23:32] <cwicks> Hi UT Students - please enter roll call by giving me your project name from the wiki site
[01:23:58] <Jefro> rcn-ee sold!
[01:24:11] <brolin> rcn-ee: but with the user button hold down go until "android_usb gadget: high speed config #1: android"
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[01:24:35] <cwicks> jkridner are you having your edu call tomorrow?
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[01:24:42] <prpplague> jkridner2: hey bud
[01:24:47] <rcn-ee> brolin, on startup? like power off, hold user button, power on?
[01:24:53] <Jefro> cwicks jkridner is ON VACATION (or should be), but I'll be holding the call
[01:24:55] <prpplague> jkridner2: whats cookin today?
[01:25:45] <bjrosas> <cwicks> still working with opencv nothing new to report really
[01:26:29] <cwicks> bjrosas did you make it to the in person event last week?
[01:26:33] <brolin> yes, kernel booting begins but stop there
[01:27:12] <prpplague> ho ho ho
[01:27:19] <prpplague> merry freakin monday
[01:27:34] <rcn-ee> brolin, very odd... c4 board right? can you pastebin your fatfs partition, and cat the 'user.scr' <- reflash script..
[01:27:46] <cwicks> pseudonym did you have a chance yet to make a wiki page for media extender
[01:28:03] <brolin> yes
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[01:28:26] <bjrosas> <cwicks> yes i attended teh presentation
[01:28:50] <cwicks> get a chance to discuss your project?
[01:30:08] <_pseudonym> roll call - media extender
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[01:30:10] <bjrosas> <cwicks> there wasn't much project discussion. There were questions answered though.
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[01:34:40] <Jefro> bjrosas _pseudonym and any other UT students - is there anything we can help with to get your project moving?
[01:35:52] <tdh2002> Jefro : you are so enthusiastic :)
[01:36:55] <Jefro> tdh2002 :) I make up for it by being sedentary and boring in person
[01:37:42] * djlewis has matches
[01:38:08] <djlewis> lets light a fire under them ;)
[01:39:23] <cwicks> UT Students - a prize to the first one tonight to jump in with a technical discussion on your project :)
[01:39:40] <tdh2002> Is there someone have Experience in write opengl program on beagleboard?
[01:40:19] <tdh2002> I face the problem , tranplate openGL lib to Beagleboard
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[01:41:21] <topfs2> tdh2002, on embedded your using OpenGL ES instead which has lots less methods
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[01:41:41] <topfs2> GLES 2.0 is shader oriented and might be more complicated but better overall and GLES 1.1 is the old more like the simple opengl
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[01:41:49] <topfs2> there are some great books regarding it
[01:42:28] <tdh2002> ok Can you a recommendation book
[01:42:48] <cwicks> Hi UT Students - any new groups who have joined - please answer roll call w/ your project name from the wiki
[01:44:02] <topfs2> tdh2002, can't remember the name but here are NeHe made into gles 1.1 http://embedded.org.ua/opengles/lessons.html
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[01:46:30] <cwicks> Hi chainsawbike - are you a UT student?
[01:46:48] <cwicks> Did anyone see the exciting news on price at beagleboard.org today?
[01:47:11] <Jefro> topfs2 tdh2002 is this one of them? Mobile 3D graphics: with OpenGL ES and M3G
[01:48:05] <Jefro> cwicks Yes! blogged about it
[01:48:19] <Jefro> topfs2 tdh2002 also: OpenGL ES 2.0 Programming Guide by Aaftab Munshi, Dan Ginsburg, and Dave Shreiner
[01:49:03] <tdh2002> I am in China not one of them.
[01:49:51] <tdh2002> My work must use openGL otherwise the graphic is too slowly
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[01:54:09] <brolin> rcn-ee: http://pastebin.com/x2tD3idM
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[01:55:29] <brolin> http://pastebin.com/Bd2jMeLg
[01:57:48] <Jefro> Sorry folks, I must check out - students, feel free to ping me during the week if I can help with anything
[01:57:58] <Jefro> jkridner2 have a good vacation!
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[01:58:29] <rcn-ee> brolin, thanks for the pastebin.. is there any error's in u-boot when holding down the user button on startup? or does it ignore it completely?
[01:59:38] <cwicks> buy Jefro - hope to talk tomorrow -
[02:00:53] <Jefro> cwicks hope so too!
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[02:02:16] <brolin> rcn-ee: look at the output on the serial console http://pastebin.com/97S4aXcw
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[02:03:49] <cwicks> Yehcraig - did you get a chance to check in?
[02:04:44] <jkridner2> thanks Jefro
[02:04:49] <tdh2002> android ?
[02:04:53] <ds2> hmmmm
[02:05:00] <rcn-ee> brolin, weird, specially with: "No MMC card found" can you halt u-boot and do a "mmc init or mmcinit" then "fatls mmc 0:1" ?
[02:05:08] <ds2> students must be slacking off with the impending long weekend ;)
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[02:05:30] <jkridner2> ds2: sorry for the slow reply. out on vacation.
[02:05:43] <ds2> jkrinder2: np...
[02:05:57] <tdh2002> jkridner2 is going to vacaion ?
[02:06:00] <ds2> jkrinder2: it can wait til you get back
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[02:06:28] <jkridner2> pricing is better on dm3730, so not sure why you'd want omap3530.
[02:06:56] <ds2> logistics
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[02:07:09] <ds2> aka how to avoid finger pointing
[02:07:27] <brolin> yes
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[02:10:44] <brolin> rcn-ee: and then?
[02:11:00] <rcn-ee> does it print out the file system?
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[02:11:55] <rcn-ee> you should see the same thing shown with ls in linux... (we are seeing if the card is readable..)
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[02:12:38] <ds2> rcn-ee: u-boot came off the MMC in that trace, it better be readable
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[02:13:06] <rcn-ee> ds2, i agree, but the 'no mmc card found' error message is odd..
[02:13:19] <ds2> rcn-ee: #
[02:13:21] <ds2> Unknown command 'mmcinit' - try 'help'
[02:13:31] <ds2> I think that might have something to do with it (line 27)
[02:14:33] <rcn-ee> yeap, and that's comming from nand flash....
[02:14:58] <rcn-ee> brolin, since the auto reflash is failing, here's the steps it's actually trying to do: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu#Manual_Run
[02:15:31] <ds2> rcn-ee: doesn't the u-boot in circulation still honor the NAND config? if so, a equiv of the cisco write erase should fix this
[02:15:41] <brolin> rcn-ee: look at the filesystem http://pastebin.com/uBBLG5SE
[02:15:47] <cwicks> Hello - Brian_Leipprandt, are you still working on BeagleDVR?
[02:16:00] <Brian_Leipprandt> yes
[02:16:00] <rcn-ee> ds2, yeah it does... which is tripping everything up..
[02:16:27] <brolin> the command that works was mmc init
[02:16:41] <ds2> rcn-ee: nand erase at the right sector; I don't have the config address range handy :(
[02:16:42] <cwicks> Brian_Leipprandt - how is it going do you have any technical questions today? Katie and Jason are on w/ others
[02:17:07] <rcn-ee> brolin, it looks like everything is safely there, and read able.. do a "nand erase 260000 20000" to erase the nand sector, then "reset" with the user button pushed.. it should auto flash..
[02:17:26] <rcn-ee> (that just erases the nand boot env variables)
[02:17:39] <brolin> ok
[02:17:52] <Brian_Leipprandt> Its going well, I've been having a busy year, we have the TV tuner module running on x86 linux, and have it compiling but not quite working yet on the beagle. Hopefully after thanksgiving that will be changed.
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[02:22:02] <brolin> rcn-ee: works!
[02:22:05] <brolin> thanks
[02:22:35] <rcn-ee> your welcome brolin some of those nand enviroment variables can be a pain for upgrading..;)
[02:22:51] <ds2> putting it simply, we are not doing things that standard way
[02:23:18] <rcn-ee> and the standards changes from month to month.. ;)
[02:23:25] <cwicks> thanks for the update Brian_Leipprandt - did you have a chance to make a wiki page yet?
[02:24:12] <ds2> and you got a nice selection to choose from too
[02:24:16] <Brian_Leipprandt> no we haven't
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[02:25:44] <cwicks> BL : there are prizes involved for getting your page up and running :)
[02:29:03] <Brian_Leipprandt> cwicks :) guess I'll have to see what we can get up in the next couple days then
[02:29:21] <ds2> is that like a case of ramen? ;)
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[02:31:36] <tdh2002> Tomorrow is my birthday, Happy birthday tome! :)
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[02:33:17] <cwicks> Okay UT Students, cwicks is going to sign off - see you next time!
[02:33:59] <tdh2002> see you next time cwicks!
[02:34:45] <Brian_Leipprandt> bye cwicks
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[02:35:51] <cwicks> happy birthday tdh2002 - don't forget to contact your professor and the TI university program for info about china contests
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[02:37:30] <tdh2002> I left school for years -_-
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[03:59:33] <HS8JCV> Hi Everyone.
[03:59:58] <HS8JCV> I just got xM board. How to verify board.?
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[04:16:34] <hitlin37> giv it 5v power and you will see messages on screen
[04:17:25] <HS8JCV> I plugin miniUSB for 5V power supply.
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[04:17:52] <HS8JCV> It can boot and sent message to serial port.
[04:19:03] <HS8JCV> But,If use dc power supply 5V. Board can't boot. I don't see any message from serial port.
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[04:34:22] <hitlin37> did u saw anything on main monitor
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[06:03:05] <ds2> hmmm
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[06:12:57] <Max_Galemin> i'm curious if it's normal that temperature of lan9514 is 5C higher that DM3730 (40C and 45C)? :)
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[06:15:49] <Max_Galemin> on my BB-xM...
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[06:20:18] <Max_Galemin> I guess it should be cold...
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[06:21:59] <Max_Galemin> and wet as dog's nose... :)
[06:22:32] <Max_Galemin> can anyone touch lan9514 on your BB?
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[06:28:42] <dscience> ls
[06:28:43] <dscience> lsusb
[06:28:49] <dscience> oops wrong window
[06:30:25] <ds2> 0000:0000 USB incinerator
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[06:46:33] <_av500_> 0026:0054 USB empty slot load
[06:47:27] <Animule> remember when CD-ROMs loaded in caddies
[06:47:28] <Animule> fun times
[06:53:20] * dm8tbr has dvd-ram caddies. does that count? ;)
[06:54:27] <Animule> or minidiscs
[06:55:00] <Animule> "click of death" with zip drives
[06:55:12] <Animule> or the jaz drives that would work for just long enough to copy all your data to it
[07:03:51] <ds2> anyone run a CD-R off a OMAP3 device?
[07:04:33] <ds2> in write mode
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[07:06:38] * _av500_ hasnt run a cdr in years
[07:06:58] <_av500_> except to copy scratched kids CDs
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[07:10:41] <ds2> okay, DVD-R then
[07:11:04] <_av500_> neither
[07:11:38] * _av500_ has a dvd equivalent on his keychain
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[07:44:28] <tasslehoff> Continuing my sd-woes. Gparted used 2x14 seconds to create 2x1GB ext3 partitions, and then 10 minutes to create a 12.88 GB partition in the rest of the free space.
[07:45:46] <mru> morning
[07:45:50] <andoma> morning
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[08:43:20] <koen> there, tickets and hotel booked for that yocto thing
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[08:58:25] <tasslehoff> will creating an ext3-partition do more to the disk than creating a fat32? creating fat32 on my entire 16gb card takes 6 seconds. creating ext2/ext3 takes 10-12 minutes.
[08:58:47] <av500> yes
[08:58:55] <av500> ext3 initializes more parts of the disk
[08:59:09] <av500> fat just writes the 2 fats and the root folder, the rest is not touched
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[09:04:02] <tasslehoff> something bad somwhere in the last 13GB makes it take a *long* time, but it eventually completes. I don't always get the same result though. Sometimes gparted will crash when trying to scan the card after formatting it.
[09:04:31] <av500> tasslehoff: why cant you just put that card out of its misery?
[09:05:59] <tasslehoff> av500: I bought 3 and have testet two of them with this kind of issues. Will test the third now. Just gotta figure out if it's the card or tasslehoff that should be blamed.
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[09:06:50] <av500> tasslehoff: well, they should at least hold some data for some time
[09:06:57] <av500> as in getting filled with jpegs
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[09:07:07] <av500> if they fail at that -> bin
[09:08:20] <mru> not sbin?
[09:08:27] <mru> morning _koen_
[09:08:53] <tasslehoff> av500: trying the last one now. haven't touched it with my sfdisk-ing script. if gparted misbehaves on this one as well, the bin it is.
[09:09:08] <tasslehoff> it seems to misbehave...
[09:09:22] * av500 now suspects tasslehoff :)
[09:09:28] <tasslehoff> :D
[09:09:50] <av500> could you try another tasslehoff as well?
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[09:13:06] <tasslehoff> av500: afraid not. picked the current one up at the garage sale, and it's out of production
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[09:13:31] <tasslehoff> the errata was so extensive they decided to start over
[09:17:31] <XorA> :-D
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[09:21:29] <_koen_> XorA: that new zoom2 kernel oopses on boot :(
[09:22:52] <XorA> _koen_: on zoom2?
[09:23:02] <koen> yes
[09:23:10] <XorA> balls, I only tested on my zoom3
[09:23:23] <XorA> koen: well you work for the right company to kick asses
[09:23:27] <koen> heh
[09:24:12] <XorA> problem is like normal all support for old hardware was dropped
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[09:25:13] <XorA> koen: which driver does it die in?
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[09:27:53] <_koen_> need to hook up serial to see
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[09:35:54] <koen> XorA: of course redirecting to serial makes it disappear :)
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[09:37:58] <tasslehoff> is there a recommended sd-card I should get to avoid this sorrow? mru: you mentioned sandisk. a particular one?
[09:38:19] <koen> I use the black ones
[09:38:39] <koen> which are usually "ultra" "extreme" "OMG", etc
[09:39:05] <av500> koen: with "go faster" stripes?
[09:39:31] <XorA> I pretty much always use SanDisk Extreme II/III/IV
[09:39:33] <koen> sadly no stripes
[09:40:14] <XorA> tomshardware has a pretty good article on which cards to use
[09:41:05] * XorA likes his Class 10 cards
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[09:41:24] <aholler_> i suggest using usb-hds. ;)
[09:41:58] <mru> I never use them for anything critical anyway
[09:43:50] <XorA> RAIDing SD cards is easy on beagle :-D
[09:43:57] <tasslehoff> The decision to throw out nand/nor and use sd only in our design felt better 2 days ago :)
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[09:44:27] <av500> tasslehoff: 16gb nand?
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[09:45:15] <av500> tasslehoff: hint, even if it says 16gb on the card, you do not have to use them all :)
[09:45:51] <XorA> GB are like pokemons :-D
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[09:46:38] <tasslehoff> av500: would be nice to be able to format it, though
[09:46:54] <av500> formatting is overrated
[09:46:57] <koen> XorA: using console=ttyS0,115200 'fixes' the oops on boot
[09:47:21] <XorA> koen: hmmmm, I had zoom3 booting without console=ttyS0
[09:47:35] <XorA> koen: but I did have some random oopses, which seemed to get less using later u-boot
[09:47:52] <koen> let me try the new&improved uboot as well
[09:48:06] * XorA crosses fingers as thats untested as well
[09:48:28] <av500> koen: make sure your new uboot has the awesome linux scheduler patch as well!
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[09:48:58] <XorA> koen: will be in Nice as of tomorrow so no debugging on zoom2 until after weekend
[09:49:10] <av500> isnt zoom2 obosolete anyway?
[09:51:35] <XorA> pretty sure most omap hardware is obsolete as soon as it reaches mass market
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[09:54:14] <Szoszi> hello, is any possibility, workarund to put audio on BB-xM to the DVI outout? :)
[09:54:32] <koen> av500: the .37rc beagle kernel in angstrom has that miracle patch :)
[09:55:24] <av500> Szoszi: iirc no
[09:55:55] <av500> koen: so now you can browse the internet nicely while you make -j 64 in the background?
[09:56:32] <mru> and lennart can run 64 instances of systemd
[09:57:46] <koen> av500: I don't compile on target platforms as a rule of thumb :)
[09:58:01] <koen> but the promised smooth 1080p playback doesn't work on beagle
[09:58:18] <av500> hmm
[09:58:23] <XorA> koen: you forgot the av500 patch :-D
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[10:10:05] <koen> XorA: new uboot worked
[10:10:10] <XorA> koen: sweet
[10:10:19] <XorA> koen: I just crossed my fingers for those recipes
[10:10:40] <XorA> koen: if you happen to have a spare zoom2 case lying around I can put the cpu daughter board in :-D
[10:11:05] <dscience> sigh. there is IO errors happening on the SDHC card. The card is brand new. Anyone had this problem before?
[10:11:12] <dscience> http://pastebin.com/ax0BRwPe
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[10:11:43] <XorA> cheap card?
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[10:11:48] <koen> XorA: wait, it now crashes in GDM
[10:11:57] <av500> dont use GDM then
[10:12:05] <XorA> koen: I didnt actually boot gnome image yet
[10:12:12] <koen> maybe I'm holding it wrong
[10:12:14] <XorA> koen: just tested kernel/u-boot worked with ubuntu
[10:12:21] <av500> XorA: I somewhat refuse to believe it is all "cheap" cards
[10:12:43] <dscience> Not cheap to me, haha, its new Kingston 8G
[10:12:48] <koen> XorA: maybe it's some PM feature gone bad
[10:12:51] <XorA> ewww kingston
[10:12:54] <koen> bleh, kingston
[10:13:07] <XorA> kingston is nasty rebadge jobs of dodgy chinese cards
[10:13:32] <DesktopMa> and most good cards are rebranded sandisk
[10:13:33] <XorA> koen: hmm, could be smart reflex, I had lots of issues with that
[10:13:35] <DesktopMa> so just buy sandisk :P
[10:13:49] <XorA> koen: if they fscked up the 3430 volatges it would randomely crash
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[10:18:16] <aholler> av500: I agree. Even when sd-cards are unreliable, that burst of problems with sd-cards here isn't normal
[10:20:22] <aholler> or one of the large manufacturers has problems with chemistry, machines or such (like that stuff with capacititors some years ago)
[10:20:26] <koen> XorA: did you see kergoths parallel parsing branch for bitbake?
[10:20:41] <XorA> koen: I did, but havent had time to try it
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[10:24:46] <av500> aholler: http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=918 :)
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[10:29:53] <tasslehoff> dscience: I get the same error on my brand new Transcend 16G
[10:30:08] <aholler> av500: interesting
[10:30:28] <av500> tasslehoff: i forgot the answer, can you use such a card on your pc?
[10:30:36] <av500> fill it with jpegs and read them back?
[10:30:45] <dscience> interesting
[10:30:47] <av500> and run a chkdsk or so
[10:32:32] <tasslehoff> av500: I'll format one to ext3 during lunch, and test afterwards
[10:32:58] <av500> tasslehoff: does not need to be ext3
[10:33:06] <av500> just put a fat and *fill* it
[10:33:18] <dscience> i'll run a badblocks when i am home
[10:34:59] <koen> XorA: I'm going to add back a modified rev.patch to make the sgx stuff build
[10:36:34] <XorA> koen: cool, wasnt quite sure what the patch was for when I left it out, any reason it didnt get included by WTBU guys?
[10:38:13] <koen> it was rejected upstream, but still survives in the catalog kernel
[10:38:20] <hitlin37> `__aeabi_unwind_cpp_pr0@GCC_3.5'...what this error means
[10:38:34] <av500> it does not say error
[10:38:55] <mru> looks like wrong runtime version of libgcc_eh or similar
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[10:46:15] <hitlin37> how do make it to pick the right version on target
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[10:46:34] <mru> use proper compiler/linker flags
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[10:46:45] <mru> it usually involves using --syroot
[10:46:48] <mru> --sysroot
[10:47:19] <mru> am I correct assuming you got a runtime error?
[10:48:26] <hitlin37> yup..i made a .so...and upon linking i got it
[10:48:41] <mru> please clarify
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[10:48:48] <mru> did gcc spit out that error?
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[10:48:58] <mru> or did you get it when you ran your app?
[10:49:22] <av500> pastebin please
[10:49:29] <hitlin37> ok...indirectly...i'm using android ndk(which itself uses gcc)
[10:49:30] <aholler> hitlin37: that means you have used another gcc to compile the .so than the one form which your libc is
[10:49:46] <mru> libc is not the issue
[10:49:54] <mru> libc very rarely is the problem
[10:50:18] <aholler> hairsplitting
[10:50:21] <mru> hitlin37: please pastebin the exact failing command and the full error message
[10:50:24] <aholler> ;)
[10:50:25] <mru> aholler: not at all
[10:50:39] <mru> libgcc* is part of gcc
[10:50:44] <mru> has nothing to do with libc
[10:50:51] <aholler> yes, I know.
[10:50:52] <mru> same for libstdc++
[10:51:26] <hitlin37> i've used armcc+cs as a plugin(which is the root of the problem as when using cs as plugin it ask me to set sysroot to cs toolchain for arm-linux but ndk reqires eabi)
[10:51:57] <mru> you're not making sense
[10:52:11] <av500> hitlin37: still with your "plugins".....
[10:52:33] <mru> armcc does not have any feature called a "plugin"
[10:52:39] <mru> cs is not a plugin
[10:52:53] <mru> so I wonder what really is going on
[10:52:56] <av500> hitlin37: and you cannot use armcc to compile for android
[10:53:07] <mru> av500: of course you can
[10:53:08] <hitlin37> http://pastebin.com/6kRNA2rv
[10:53:09] <mru> with the right flags
[10:53:26] <mru> hitlin37: missing the command that failed
[10:53:35] <av500> mru: but not link
[10:53:42] <mru> av500: that too
[10:53:49] <mru> just need the right flags
[10:54:04] <mru> armld is almost entirely compatible with gnu ld
[10:54:23] <av500> the bionic changes can be "flagged"?
[10:54:34] <mru> what changes?
[10:54:50] <mru> if gcc/ld can link it, so can armcc/armld
[10:54:56] <av500> yes
[10:55:03] <av500> but android gcc is patched for bionic
[10:55:10] <hitlin37> mru i'm using http://infocenter.arm.com/help/topic/com.arm.doc.dai0212a/DAI0212A_building_linux_apps_with_rvct40_and_gnu.pdf
[10:55:11] <mru> patched how?
[10:56:27] <hitlin37> i need to link to bionic libc
[10:57:26] <av500> hitlin37: it would help a lot
[10:57:50] <hitlin37> using above method..i made .so...then linking it on ndk..
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[10:58:35] <hitlin37> av500 how to make it on armcc
[11:01:13] <av500> mru: http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2010-05/msg01497.html
[11:01:24] <av500> seems they are going mainline gcc ....
[11:02:46] <av500> hitlin37: sorry, make what?
[11:03:07] <av500> hitlin37: why dont you use the gcc from the NDK?
[11:03:19] <aholler> oh no, what they have done to gcc and/or linux?
[11:03:39] <hitlin37> i need to use armcc because code is highly armcc dependent
[11:04:16] <av500> android is to linux what the what the Boston Strangler was to a woman alone....
[11:04:19] <aholler> bionic reads like they are using some genetic algorithms ;)
[11:04:41] <av500> hitlin37: armcc dependent c code?
[11:04:48] <hitlin37> at one point of time even my cross compiler told me "use ARM toolchain" for some particualar section
[11:04:58] <hitlin37> assembly code
[11:06:25] <mru> av500: as you can see, it's just changing defaults for a few existing flags
[11:07:46] <av500> fine then :)
[11:09:22] <aholler> maybe we need a -moe, -msuse, -mdebian, -mrh too ;)
[11:09:36] <mru> yeah, it's a worrying trend
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[11:10:20] <mru> this stuff doesn't belong in the compiler
[11:10:54] <aholler> except -mgentoo ;)
[11:11:07] <hitlin37> i can remove GLIB errors by avoiding those symbols...but how to remove other error
[11:11:34] <mru> you need to link your .so against the android libs
[11:11:57] <mru> it looks like you built a .so in normal linux and now you're trying to link to it from android
[11:12:02] <mru> the libs are not compatible
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[11:13:32] <av500> is armcc asm that different?
[11:13:40] <mru> yes
[11:14:01] <hitlin37> ya..armcc is totally different...i spend a lot of time on this
[11:14:27] <aholler> hmm, you can't cancel threads on android...
[11:14:32] <av500> aholler: yep
[11:14:36] <mru> that's a good thing
[11:14:39] <av500> +1
[11:14:50] <mru> using pthread_cancel safely is so hard that nobody gets it right
[11:14:55] * av500 never needed to cancel a thread
[11:15:04] <hitlin37> mru..u r right,during compiling i gave it a linux environment..and on target there's different environment
[11:15:06] <av500> either join or its a bug
[11:15:07] <mru> and it's always easier to achieve what you need differently
[11:15:47] <mru> hitlin37: how much asm are we talking about?
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[11:16:53] <hitlin37> 15 files...(i moslty changed it to gas version..but then coudn't proceed further with some files)
[11:17:12] <mru> why not?
[11:17:19] <av500> hitlin37: and what does it do? please dont answer openmax dl
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[11:17:47] <mru> you could compile the object files with armcc and link with android gcc
[11:17:49] <mru> that should work
[11:17:53] <hitlin37> :)
[11:20:13] <hitlin37> mru..what flags i need for that
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[11:22:54] <hitlin37> answer for why not..is lack of gas examples
[11:23:48] <hitlin37> av500:you can shoot me
[11:25:31] <av500> ?
[11:30:42] <hitlin37> yes
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[11:48:20] <aholler> hmpf: /usr/lib/gcc/armv5tel-softfloat-linux-gnueabi/4.5.1/include/stdarg.h:40:1: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault :(
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[11:56:16] <aholler> this depends on the kernel-config I'm using...
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[12:26:47] <aholler> using CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO_REDUCED=y and gcc 4.5.1 will fail compiling arch/arm/kernel/asm-offsets.s (2.6.36 and 2.6.36.1)
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[12:34:53] <tasslehoff> dscience_: no idea if it's relevant, but this looks familiar: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ports.arm.omap/38260. The patch in the bottom seems to be in the latest kernel built with OE.
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[12:54:23] <hitlin37> mru..now there's multiple definition of soft float library i guess..i compiled with softvfp:http://pastebin.com/5UN1qCj2
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[13:18:02] <dscience> tasslehoff: hmmm I am checking for bad blocks on the card on a pc. seems it has some problems indeed
[13:19:41] <tasslehoff> dscience: checking here as well, but no bad blocks found yet (after 2 hrs)
[13:19:58] <tasslehoff> so perhaps different issues
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[13:43:33] <chiques> Can anyone give me some insight on how to interface these two? http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/4904/beagletolcdpinouts.jpg
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[14:00:44] <_koen_> ah, the BKL is gone
[14:00:58] * _koen_ tries to tell that to the sgx drivers
[14:02:42] <mru> it's finally really gone?
[14:07:21] <koen> lots of .ioctl fields and MUTEX defines are gone in .37rc2
[14:09:43] <av500> chiques: connect the right signals :)
[14:11:15] <av500> chiques: but I would use J5 as well
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[14:20:42] <jannau> mru: not fully, config option in .37 and defaults to disabled
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[14:23:30] <mru> it's been a long time in the making
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[14:55:19] <Crofton|work> http://www.ettusresearch.com/
[14:55:39] <Crofton|work> Thanks for all the help
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[14:59:52] <andyzammy> hey all. been a while since i last used my beagle (which was able to successfuly boot angstrom demo img).. trying it now gives me a few errors (** Unable to use mmc 0:1 for fatload **, Wrong Image Format for bootm command,ERROR: can't get kernel image!) .. wondering if someone could point me in right direction for fix?
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[15:03:10] <av500> Crofton|work: your baby?
[15:04:12] <Crofton|work> pretty much
[15:04:17] <Crofton|work> I am the SW guys
[15:04:21] <Crofton|work> guy :)
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[15:04:40] <Crofton|work> I've been trying to get an omap attached to an fpga and for sale "cheap" for years
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[15:05:01] <av500> Crofton|work: pic?
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[15:05:30] <Crofton|work> I just twitted a crappy one in the case
[15:05:41] <Crofton|work> I'll get a better one this afternoon
[15:05:52] <av500> Crofton|work: url for a digital "left behind" like me?
[15:06:06] * av500 still sends emails
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[15:12:27] <Crofton|work> urg
[15:12:38] <Crofton|work> http://twitpic.com/39hfy0
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[15:14:35] <dscience> nice
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[15:18:38] <_koen_> Crofton|work: I had to rip the fft pic out of your facebook to show to my boss
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[15:19:21] <andyzammy> can anyone help me out with a can't get kernel image! error please?
[15:19:22] <sakoman__> Crofton|work: At last! Congrats :-)
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[15:21:12] <_koen_> sakoman__: when are those 1GHz gumstix modules due?
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[15:22:04] <sakoman__> koen: Don't know! I've had protos for quite some time
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[15:22:47] <Crofton|work> rofl
[15:23:49] <sakoman__> Crofton|work: I really have no knowledge of Gumstix production and marketing plans
[15:24:10] <Crofton|work> I know that :)
[15:24:10] <sakoman__> I'm just a hired gun to deliver bits of sw
[15:24:10] <_koen_> how far is the gumstix HQ from the mariott?
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[15:25:32] <sakoman__> _koen_: about 800 miles :-)
[15:25:48] <sakoman__> most of Gumstix employees are in Vancouver B.C.
[15:26:13] <sakoman__> the CEO and the shipping office are in San Jose near the airport
[15:26:34] <_koen_> san jose is nearby
[15:26:38] <sakoman__> I'm not really sure what they consider HQ
[15:27:07] <sakoman__> right the San Jose shipping office is about 20 minutes from the Marriot
[15:27:16] <sakoman__> I've been there a couple of times
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[15:27:56] <sakoman__> Not a lot to see :-)
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[15:29:07] <sakoman__> lots of shipping supplies and racks with the PCB assemblies
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[15:31:36] <djlewis> gm
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[15:31:42] <av500> gm
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[15:32:29] * djlewis is even less secure in purchasing a "real" manufacturers SD after seeing av500's link :(
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[15:35:10] <av500> djlewis: somehow I dont understand how all these digital cameras out there "work" :)
[15:35:35] <Crofton|work> you guys should go by Ettus
[15:38:09] <djlewis> av500: perhaps a few missing pels in a photo is not so obvious at such high pel counts.
[15:38:27] <av500> djlewis: and its single pixel failures :)
[15:38:54] <djlewis> all it takes to muck with linux
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[16:07:51] <koen> Crofton|work: I was thinking of visiting ettus
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[16:13:41] <sakoman__> koen: what day do you plan on going to ettus?
[16:14:05] <koen> I was thinking tuesday, I should arrive at 13:30
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[16:15:38] <sakoman__> koen: maybe Crofton|work can arrange something for us (though I seem to recall that key people will be travelling)
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[16:32:40] <Jefro> Hi all - BLEP meeting starting now
[16:33:01] <Jefro> BeagleBoard Linux Education Project - http://beagleboard.org/linux_education
[16:33:53] <mjhammel> Hey Jeffro. Can't dial-in, so I thought I'd listen here.
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[16:38:11] <av500> whats the passcode?
[16:38:18] <mru> swordfish
[16:38:28] <av500> no, its numba's
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[16:41:15] <av500> found it
[16:41:19] <Jefro> sorry, was looking at other screen - numbers for education meeting 877-561-6828 x96817682#
[16:41:38] <av500> Jefro: I do prefer my german dial in :)
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[16:41:54] <Jefro> av500 - international dialup #s are available
[16:41:59] <av500> yes
[16:42:07] <av500> as said, im on the german one
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[16:42:11] <Jefro> ok, good
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[16:42:53] <Jefro> mjhammel ok - will post minutes at the end (probably not much traffic on IRC)
[16:43:22] <mjhammel> no prob. Thx.
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[16:53:52] <GrueMaster> av500: ping - Have you tested teh new omap kernel on your XM?
[16:53:59] <av500> gee
[16:54:00] <av500> i forgot
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[16:56:59] <koen> this one http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/OE/beagleboard/uImage-2.6.36+2.6.37-rc2-r90a+gitr8973a21e18241081d16693504d7c0ed5b9918716-beagleboard.bin ?
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[16:57:53] <tsahee> I'm trying to build openembedded for beagle board, and having problems with omap3-sgx-modules_1.4.14.2514.bb. I get "No targets specified and no makefile found."
[16:57:59] <tsahee> Any Ideas?
[17:01:12] <tsahee> I'm a total bb noob. I don't understand what it's trying to execute. It says that "do_compile" failed, and I don't see any do_compile declared at that bb file.
[17:02:39] <RobotGuy> tsahee: You won't see do_compile declared in the recipe files. It's a build procedure only, not something that can be called direct.
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[17:03:43] <tsahee> Okay, so how do I understand what it's trying to do?
[17:04:21] <tsahee> "no target and no makefile" doesn't give me much to work with...
[17:04:44] <RobotGuy> tsahee: It's trying to compile the module you are building and it can't for some reason. There should be a logfile generated and it should tell you the filename and where it is.
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[17:06:40] <RobotGuy> You might try channel #oe for help with this.
[17:07:23] <tsahee> will do. 10x!
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[17:12:07] <muriani> it's a race between the beagle and my 500MHz P3 laptop
[17:12:13] <muriani> see who installs Lucid first :D
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[17:12:34] <av500> you are wasting 2 machines
[17:12:45] <muriani> the P3 has an advantage, it's installing from the ubuntu-server cd, the beagle is running net install
[17:13:10] <muriani> av500: not really. It'll serve my purposes in the end.
[17:14:19] <muriani> I could get the beagle up in half an hour with narcissus, but I want to do some comparisons with the common environment
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[17:26:22] <av500> Jefro: i have to drop off!
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[17:28:20] <Jefro> av500 thanks for joining
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[18:58:13] <ds2> morning
[18:59:18] <_av500_> gm
[18:59:27] <Crofton|work> koen, Matt won't be around
[18:59:38] <Crofton|work> about half the company will be at the same conference
[19:00:01] <Crofton|work> but, you can see th afacility
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[19:36:03] <djlewis_> on hold with hp tech support :(
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[19:40:08] <IanWiz> Does the ti-demo-x11-image bb recipe build an Angstrom w/x11 and the majority of TI's dvsdk components?
[19:41:03] <mru> djlewis_: what have they done to deserve a call from you?
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[19:42:42] <djlewis_> the lj9050dn refuses to succumb to my wills.
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[19:54:56] <mru> djlewis_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWj6Hy5eMuo
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[20:01:10] <djlewis_> even better, it is ont he second floor next to an open window oohrha :-D
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[20:11:14] <_av500_> djlewis_: hp printers need baking these days
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[20:11:33] <_av500_> bad bga solder jobs
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[20:11:47] <Echo_> Hi, is there anybody know the java support on beagle board???
[20:12:41] <djlewis_> ugh, i have a hp laptop that needs a baking too
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[20:15:42] <Echo_> Seriously, I saw some video about the Android running on beagle board, what version is it??
[20:15:42] <Jefro> not limited to hp - I have two thinkpads that have bad bga soldering jobs (on video cards)
[20:16:17] <Jefro> Echo_ there are several Android ports. The most useful one (in my experience) is Rowboat, which you can read about here: http://arowboat.org
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[20:21:01] <mru> how does one know a gadget has a bad solder job?
[20:21:18] <mru> peering under the bga isn't exactly easy...
[20:21:18] <Echo_> Jefro== Thanks a lot. Is there any official support from the beagleboard.org
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[20:23:51] <Jefro> mru - as for the thinkpads, it is based on experience from 1000s of people having to fix thm, not sure with other gadgets
[20:24:18] <Jefro> Echo_ support isn't really "official", but you will find a lot of support on the #rowboat IRC channel
[20:24:34] <Jefro> and through the mailing list. rowboat is a fairly robust project
[20:26:00] <djlewis_> later, off to whoop up on a lj
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[20:34:22] <sakoman__> doe anyone know what kernel patch is required to get video working on xM Rev B boards?
[20:34:34] <cwillu> rcn-ee might
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[20:34:49] <sakoman__> my kernel seems to work fine with xM rev A, but no video on xM Rev B
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[20:36:28] <sakoman__> cwillu: hmm . . . you might be right. I see on the mailing list that others have indicated no video using ubuntu on rev B
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[20:41:46] <_av500_> mru: http://www.google.com/images?q=hp+2015dn
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[20:48:48] <Jefro> sakoman__ might want to post on mailing list - Gerald frequents there and he would know what changed between rev A & B
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[21:07:20] <Echo_> Jefro--- Thanks so much!!!
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[22:18:42] <Ryandamartini> Hello, I was wondering if it is possible to interface sensors directly to a bb or do you have to first go through something like an arduino ?
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[23:51:22] <aholler> hmpf, catched by oerial
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