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IRC Log for 2010-12-07

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  1. [00:03:47] <ds2> jefro, yes?
  2. [00:08:11] <Jefro> ds2 - was wondering how your LCD plans are coming along
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  11. [00:38:27] <ds2> Jefro: it should be available before Christmas
  12. [00:39:19] <ds2> Jefro: the 7" one right?
  13. [00:39:48] <Jefro> yes, that's the one I'm interested in. do you have a page on it yet?
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  15. [00:40:17] <ds2> Jefro: yes, but I am not sure if I pushed it to the live server yet
  16. [00:40:30] <Jefro> :) I'm running out the door, but I'd love to see it if/when
  17. [00:40:39] <ds2> I have a few old pictures
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  19. [00:41:40] <ds2> Jefro: http://www.hy-research.com/tmp/beaglelcd7.jpg
  20. [00:42:08] <Jefro> sweet. what is the connection to the beagle? does it go through the VGA port or somewhere else?
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  23. [00:52:49] <ds2> Jefro: no, uses the LCD headers
  24. [00:53:03] <Jefro> doy - yes, LCD header is what I meant
  25. [00:53:09] <ds2> it is shares the same PCB as the newer rev of the 4.3" LCD board
  26. [00:53:41] <ds2> so attached to a Beagle, the highest points on the unit is still the stuff on the Beagle itself
  27. [00:53:58] <Jefro> that's cool! is this the LCD that is on beagletoys?
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  30. [00:55:35] <ds2> Jefro: NO!
  31. [00:55:47] <ds2> I have my own line of 4.3", 4.8" and 7" LCD
  32. [00:55:49] <Jefro> ha... I guess that's a "no"
  33. [00:55:56] <Jefro> ah, cool, didn't realize that
  34. [00:56:06] <cwicks> Hi Jefro - ready for some UT students tonight?
  35. [00:56:06] <ds2> this is the same as what SpecialComp has
  36. [00:56:55] <ds2> I should say, this is the same linearage as; i have since made changes
  37. [00:57:33] <Jefro> ah, ok
  38. [00:57:40] <Jefro> cwicks hey! yes, I'm here
  39. [00:58:04] <Jefro> cwicks not sure I'll be on the phone, but definitely will be on IRC
  40. [00:58:09] <Jefro> may pop in on the phone
  41. [01:00:35] <ds2> Bring on the students!
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  43. [01:02:31] <katie> Hi cwicks and Jefro
  44. [01:03:02] <cwicks> Hi Katie!
  45. [01:04:07] <cwicks> Hello UT Beagleboard Challenge Students - I am also on the phone if you need some voice time - 877.561.6828 code # 54043628 - or you are free to join just here on the IRC
  46. [01:05:24] <cwicks> First UT student with a technical question tonight gets a cool stuffed beagle dog
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  48. [01:06:37] <ds2> taxadermy? :D
  49. [01:07:24] <Jefro> hi katie! how's things?
  50. [01:08:28] <katie> Jefro - always going - you hear anything else about scripting language trends on arm?
  51. [01:08:43] <Jefro> not much, other than that they are not used mucn
  52. [01:08:49] <Jefro> s/mucn/much/
  53. [01:08:59] <cwicks> Hi tgabriel - glad to see you got the IRC working!
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  55. [01:09:13] <ds2> some would argue Thumb is a scripting language ;)
  56. [01:09:22] <Jefro> most pros use scripting languages in their build systems (a la python for OE) but not much on the target
  57. [01:09:49] <hookem> checkin in - visual traffic device
  58. [01:10:05] <ds2> most boards at least use sh as a scripting langauge
  59. [01:10:36] <katie> ds2 i'm looking at python, javascript, lua, etc on target
  60. [01:11:31] <Jefro> all of those are available on the target, but I don't see people using them much, unless they use the board itself as their build system
  61. [01:12:20] <ds2> katie: are you talking about traditional embedded ARM or stuff like ARM netbook/tablets?
  62. [01:13:09] <katie> traditional embedded ARM... doing control etc type stuffs...
  63. [01:14:00] <ds2> can't say I have heard of anyone doing that on any professional basis
  64. [01:14:41] <katie> so says everyone else too... :)
  65. [01:15:12] <cwicks> hookem we are on the phone if you'd like to join 877.561.6828 code # 54043628 and let us know how it is going
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  68. [01:16:44] <Dan___> is this where we get beagleboard help?
  69. [01:17:09] <djlewis> yup :)
  70. [01:17:32] <Dan___> cool, because i need help
  71. [01:17:47] <cwicks> Dan call us too if you like hookem we are on the phone if you'd like to join 877.561.6828 code # 54043628 and let us know how it is going
  72. [01:17:51] * katie2 (c05e5e69@gateway/web/freenode/ip.192.94.94.105) Quit (Client Quit)
  73. [01:18:03] <Dan___> i'm trying to compile linux for DSP by following the instructions here:
  74. [01:18:14] <Dan___> http://www.elinux.org/BeagleBoard_Ubuntu_%26_DSP_From_Sources
  75. [01:18:37] <Dan___> thanks cwicks, but I think it'll be easier here
  76. [01:18:52] <Dan___> basically, I'm confused as to what should be in the /boot partition
  77. [01:18:54] <cwicks> Dan_ no problem what is your team project name - you win a prize tonight
  78. [01:18:59] <Dan___> oh cool
  79. [01:19:05] <Dan___> SuperBeagle
  80. [01:19:11] <Dan___> what sort of prize?
  81. [01:19:31] <cwicks> cute beagle dog
  82. [01:19:37] <djlewis> i think they are referring to UT students
  83. [01:19:39] <Dan___> oh nice
  84. [01:19:48] <Dan___> yeah I'm part of the UT contest
  85. [01:19:57] <Jefro> you have to feed it and water it
  86. [01:21:02] <ds2> MLO, u-boot.bin, and uImage at the min.
  87. [01:21:11] <ds2> depending your school of though, various .scr scripts
  88. [01:21:19] <Jefro> Dan___ boot partition should always contain (1) bootloaders: MLO and u-boot.bin, (2) kernel: uImage, and (3) boot scripts: boot.scr, user.scr
  89. [01:21:19] <Dan___> thanks
  90. [01:21:32] <Dan___> what's the difference between boot.scr and user.scr?
  91. [01:21:46] <Dan___> I had a user.scr generated automatically, but it complained until i renamed it to boot.scr
  92. [01:21:46] <Jefro> user.scr fires when the user button is pressed during power-on
  93. [01:21:52] <Dan___> ah i see
  94. [01:21:59] <Jefro> boot.scr is run by default
  95. [01:22:24] <Jefro> as ds2 says, the scripts are optional. I usually tell people to delete them at first in order to learn how u-boot works.
  96. [01:22:29] <Dan___> do I need a uInitrd?
  97. [01:22:41] <Jefro> you only need a uInitrd if your kernel is configured to boot with it
  98. [01:22:50] <Jefro> same goes for ramdisk.gz
  99. [01:23:05] <Dan___> hmm I'm not sure if it was configured to boot with it
  100. [01:23:22] <Jefro> is this a standard Angstrom kernel? (I confess I haven't read the DSP page)
  101. [01:23:33] <Dan___> nope, this is for Ubuntu
  102. [01:23:45] <Dan___> the DSP tutorial doesn't talk about it
  103. [01:23:52] <Dan___> but the Ubuntu page seems to imply that it's necessary
  104. [01:23:55] <Jefro> ah - my guess is that it is configured to use a "normal" root filesystem, which for beagleboards is usually found on the 2nd partition (ext2 or ext3)
  105. [01:24:05] <Jefro> looking up the page...
  106. [01:24:09] <cwicks> UT Students - so we have Superbeagle and visual traffic device checking in - any other teams?
  107. [01:24:40] <Dan___> they're probably all studying for finals haha
  108. [01:24:51] <Dan___> i'm a phd student so we're done already
  109. [01:24:58] <Jefro> LOL
  110. [01:25:10] <Dan___> the downside is that I was extremely busy before, so I just started last week on Friday
  111. [01:25:32] <Dan___> well, technically we're never "done" per se, but I currently don't have any pressing time commitments
  112. [01:25:53] <Jefro> I don't actually find any mention of initrd or other ramdisk on that page (and I would have been surprised to see them). All you need is the rootfs on the 2nd partition and those three files on the 1st (FAT16) partition.
  113. [01:26:10] <Dan___> anyways, so I have a copied MLO, generated u-boot.bin, and generated uImage
  114. [01:26:30] <Dan___> ok cool
  115. [01:26:33] <ds2> Student to learn how to pile things higher and deeper? :D
  116. [01:26:35] <Jefro> excellent. when you generated uImage, did you build a rootfs as well? or does it just want the standard ubuntu rootfs?
  117. [01:26:42] <Dan___> PhD comics are awesome
  118. [01:27:06] <Dan___> yeah I ran rootstock as directed
  119. [01:27:28] <Jefro> the section of the page on rootfs seems to imply that you'd build what you need - I recommend building the full monty at first
  120. [01:27:33] <Dan___> sudo rootstock --fqdn beagleboard --login ubuntu --password temppwd --imagesize 2G --dist maverick --serial ttyS2 --seed btrfs-tools,i2c-tools,emacs,vim,pastebinit,uboot-envtools,uboot-mkimage,usbutils,wget,xfce4,gdm,xubuntu-gdm-theme,xubuntu-artwork,xserver-xorg-video-omap3 --components "main universe multiverse" --kernel-image http://localhost/linux-image-2.6.37-rc4+_1.0cross_armel.deb
  121. [01:27:46] <cwicks> hookem, what is the latest on your project?
  122. [01:27:50] <djlewis> PhD Comics... lol
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  124. [01:28:28] <cwicks> hi kanru are you a UT Student?
  125. [01:28:28] <Jefro> Dan___ use sudo to copy the entire rootfs over the 2nd partition on your card, and copy the uImage that you generated to the 1st partition and you should be good to go
  126. [01:28:36] <hookem> cwicks - is the phone conference still going on?
  127. [01:28:43] <Dan___> Jefro, yup that's what I did
  128. [01:28:50] <Dan___> i have a problem though
  129. [01:28:55] <Dan___> it gets stuck trying to load Linux
  130. [01:28:58] <cwicks> yep - Katie and I are here 877.561.6828 code # 54043628
  131. [01:28:59] <Dan___> lemme pull up the exact error
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  133. [01:30:35] <Dan___> Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel
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  135. [01:30:53] <Jefro> just stops there? this might be an error for rcn-ee or rsalveti
  136. [01:31:01] <Dan___> yeah...
  137. [01:31:12] <Dan___> maybe my boot.cmd file has a problem
  138. [01:31:17] <Dan___> i was confused as to what to put in it
  139. [01:31:23] <ds2> please provide your kernel commandline
  140. [01:31:31] <Jefro> boot.scr?
  141. [01:31:39] <Dan___> yeah
  142. [01:32:06] <Jefro> if it is the boot.scr that comes with the stock Ubuntu Netbook ed., it has turned off the console, so you won't see any output
  143. [01:32:16] <Jefro> that is one reason I usually recommend people avoid them :)
  144. [01:32:26] <Dan___> i generated my own boot.scr
  145. [01:32:35] <Jefro> what are the bootargs?
  146. [01:32:50] <Dan___> setenv bootargs console=ttyS2,115200n8 console=tty0 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootwait rootfstype=ext3 ro vram=${vram} omapfb.mode=dvi:${dvimode} fixrtc buddy=${buddy} mpurate=${mpurate}
  147. [01:33:09] <Dan___> setenv bootcmd 'mmc init 0; fatload mmc 0:1 0x80300000 uImage; bootm 0x80300000'
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  150. [01:33:28] <Dan___> setenv mpurate 500; setenv dvimode 1280x720MR-16@60; setenv vram 12MB
  151. [01:33:38] <ds2> that looks reasonable; what's the kernel's pedigree?
  152. [01:33:55] <Dan___> the latest pm branch
  153. [01:33:59] <ds2> !!!
  154. [01:34:07] <Dan___> is that not good?
  155. [01:34:07] <ds2> Can you try it on the stock branch w/o PM?
  156. [01:34:18] <Dan___> hmm ok
  157. [01:34:20] <ds2> PM is experimental; start with something known good then go back to PM
  158. [01:34:39] <Dan___> i'm trying to get software-adjustable voltage controls
  159. [01:34:46] <Dan___> although i'm not sure if the PM branch even has that
  160. [01:34:53] <ds2> voltage controls for?
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  162. [01:35:15] <Dan___> i wanna increase the mpurate past 730
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  164. [01:35:22] <ds2> OH that
  165. [01:35:24] <Dan___> right now it hardlocks around there
  166. [01:35:42] <Dan___> it's either software controls or time to break out the soldering iron
  167. [01:35:42] <ds2> you need to make magic incantations to the PMIC
  168. [01:35:53] <Dan___> do I need the PM branch for that?
  169. [01:36:08] <ds2> probally, to mininize your work
  170. [01:36:12] <Dan___> damn
  171. [01:36:51] <Jefro> I agree to get it running without PM at first. those ergs aint nothing but trouble.
  172. [01:36:58] <Dan___> ok will do
  173. [01:36:59] <Dan___> thanks
  174. [01:37:06] <Dan___> will you guys be around later?
  175. [01:38:19] <Jefro> I'll be here for another 20 mins at least, but only periodically after that. will be on tomorrow a.m, but you can always ask whoever is here. the ubuntu-arm guys hang out here during the day, and you can also find them on #ubuntu-arm.
  176. [01:38:27] <Dan___> ok cool, thanks
  177. [01:38:47] <Dan___> i'll try to push further now and hopefully come up with more questions before you leave :)
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  179. [01:38:53] <Dan___> thanks for all your help
  180. [01:40:10] <Dan___> oh here's a simple question
  181. [01:40:12] <Jefro> Dan___ you bet - your feedback on rootstock is actually very helpful
  182. [01:40:19] <Dan___> oh cool
  183. [01:40:32] <Dan___> glad to help :P)
  184. [01:40:34] <Dan___> :)
  185. [01:40:55] <Dan___> so i'm using the kernel source from here: https://launchpad.net/~beagleboard-kernel
  186. [01:41:19] <Dan___> the directions say to change LINUX_GIT=/opt/kernel/2.6-dev/linux-2.6-stable
  187. [01:41:43] <Dan___> i'm assuming that LINUX_GIT points to the linux source code git repo?
  188. [01:42:14] <Dan___> so the question is, so is the stuff at beagleboard-kernel just some sort of wrapper for LINUX_GIT?
  189. [01:44:15] <Dan___> basically i'm confused about what purpose each of the two repositories that i downloaded serve
  190. [01:45:01] <Jefro> that's... a good question. I'm not familiar with that setup. However, this sets LINUX_GIT to a local dir, so it looks like you are using git to grab stuff from a local repository.
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  192. [01:45:27] <Jefro> did you put the sources in /opt/kernel/2.6-dev ?
  193. [01:46:05] <Dan___> nope, i changed it to point to the linux pm repo that i downloaded
  194. [01:46:33] <Jefro> that makes sense. I would guess that /opt/... is just an example rather than a requirement.
  195. [01:46:52] <cwicks> hi jahid_ are you part of the UT student beagleboard challenge?
  196. [01:46:55] <Dan___> the beagleboard wrapper thingie is a bit confusing though
  197. [01:47:00] <Jefro> so if you put stuff into ~/beaglekernel/linux-2.6-stable you'd point to that instead of /opt/whatever
  198. [01:47:29] <Dan___> yeah
  199. [01:47:46] <Dan___> the confusing part is that in the build_kernel.sh file in the beagleboard wrapper
  200. [01:47:48] <Dan___> it does this:
  201. [01:47:49] <Dan___> git reset --hard git fetch git checkout master git pull git remote | grep torvalds_remote && git fetch --tags torvalds_remote master
  202. [01:48:43] <Dan___> i dunno what exactly that does
  203. [01:49:27] <Jefro> have to confess I am also not that familiar with git yet :) but it looks like it is simply setting up a clean build environment at the beginning of a build
  204. [01:49:48] <Dan___> oh ok
  205. [01:50:05] <Dan___> i was afraid it was merging with torvalds' branch or something strange
  206. [01:50:24] <Jefro> I'm not sure... but I don't think so
  207. [01:50:28] <Dan___> good :)
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  209. [01:51:18] <Jefro> since you set LINUX_GIT to a local repo I think it stays local. I think that is checking for a set of build tags, and then it copies over the bits that correspond to those tags.
  210. [01:51:27] * CMoH-notebook (~cipi@unaffiliated/c-moh) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
  211. [01:51:52] <Jefro> I am not familiar with that tag or why Linus' name is on it, but rcn-ee would be (since he is the guru for the launchpad stuff)
  212. [01:52:02] <Dan___> oh nice
  213. [01:52:11] <Jefro> you can also ask about this on the mailing list
  214. [01:52:27] <Dan___> seems like he's idle now?
  215. [01:53:20] <Jefro> yep - a lot of folks leave their IRC on to see what happens when they aren't looking
  216. [01:54:00] <Jefro> you are reminding me that I have it on my list to go through the whole rootstock process
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  219. [01:55:20] <Dan___> haha nice
  220. [01:56:11] <cwicks> kevinsc I'm looking for more UT students for our Monday office hours - are you one?
  221. [01:56:11] <Dan___> i'm pulling the linux-omap-2.6 branch now, this one should be stable right?
  222. [01:57:43] <Guest39344> I tried connecting BB to an Olivia flat panel TV through HDMI to DVI, however nothing came up
  223. [01:58:24] <Jefro> Dan___ yes, that should be stable
  224. [01:59:24] <cwicks> Hi Guest39344 - thanks for joining - what is your team project name?
  225. [01:59:33] <Jefro> Guest39344 digital TVs are sometimes difficult, as the Beagle does not have the capacity to detect the timings needed (and they all seem to have different timings). First thing to check, though, is whether you are using a distribution that actually provides video output. Can you see output if you connect the DVI end to a DVI computer monitor?
  226. [02:02:33] * mozmck (~moses@68.170.209.240.rhinocommunications.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)
  227. [02:03:31] <cwicks> UT Beagle fans, I'm signing off the phone voice call but continue IRC for some additional time if you can please check in w/ your team name
  228. [02:03:49] <Guest39344> Name BeagleMatrix. One of my friend also mentioned timing could be an issue. I think I'll just stick to a computer monitor. Thanks.
  229. [02:04:55] <cwicks> Hi BeagleMartrix - glad you could join us - how else can we help you get your project moving forward?
  230. [02:05:34] <Jefro> Guest39344 that's best for now - once you get the system up and running so you know there is output there, then you can adjust the bootargs to make it happen on the TV
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  234. [02:08:48] <Guest39344> Alright thanks cwicks and Jefro. That was pretty much my main question. I'll follow up with your tip. Do you have advice on what configuration change would possibly be needed?
  235. [02:09:34] <Guest39344> Or any tips on the process needed to figure out the proper configurations?
  236. [02:09:35] <ds2> I am on and off
  237. [02:10:03] <ds2> Dan___: I believe the Ubuntu stuff starts with Linus's tree and patches on top of it
  238. [02:10:53] <Guest39344> Or if you are familiar with some of the configurations usually needed?
  239. [02:12:26] <Jefro> Guest39344 it really depends on the monitor in question, and I am definitely not the one to ask. :) I'd suggest someone from TI who has worked with digital TVs. The bootarg in question is the one that starts with video=
  240. [02:12:35] <Dan___> ds2, thanks
  241. [02:12:37] <Jefro> so if you want to google it you can get a picture of the complexity
  242. [02:12:55] <Jefro> you'll need to give different values to the variables for the omapfb driver
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  244. [02:13:27] <Dan___> oh , i forgot to mention: the first thing that I tried was using the Ubuntu 10.10 image and copying the new kernel into it
  245. [02:13:43] <Dan___> this worked except for the fact that mouse and keyboard stopped working
  246. [02:14:11] <Dan___> replacing the rootfs with the new generated rootfs didn't fix the problem either
  247. [02:14:17] <Jefro> Dan___ that's interesting. was there anything else plugged into USB?
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  249. [02:14:33] <Dan___> it's the standard hub issued to UT BeagleBoard competitors
  250. [02:14:43] <Jefro> curious whether the mouse/kbd drivers stopped working (not likely) or the USB subsystem stopped working (very likely)
  251. [02:14:47] <Dan___> it seemed like it could detect the hub all right
  252. [02:14:57] <tgabriel> exit
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  255. [02:15:13] <Jefro> detect might be different from working...
  256. [02:15:58] <Dan___> yeah...
  257. [02:16:11] <Dan___> so that's what made me try to fix everything from scratch
  258. [02:16:17] <Dan___> which ended up causing the whole thing not to boot
  259. [02:18:02] <Jefro> :) I feel your pain
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  261. [02:18:37] <Jefro> if you want to start with a known-good image, you could use rsalveti's pre-installed build here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAPMaverickInstall
  262. [02:19:13] <Jefro> but I would encourage you to continue with rootstock, and to visit #ubuntu-arm tomorrow during the day
  263. [02:19:35] <Jefro> ok folks, I need to head out - best of luck to all the UT students
  264. [02:20:05] <Jefro> For those monitoring at home, tune in tomorrow morning at 10:30 CT to talk about the BeagleBoard in education: http://beagleboard.org/linux_education
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  266. [02:20:28] <rcn-ee> Jefro, that torvalds, tag was a bug on kernel.org about 2 months back, the linux-2.6-stable was about a month behind.. ;)
  267. [02:20:44] <rcn-ee> it's fixed, but left in just incase..
  268. [02:21:09] <Jefro> rcn-ee ah, interesting, thanks. Dan___ did you catch that?
  269. [02:21:33] <Jefro> rcn-ee does that mean Dan___'s bits are out of date?
  270. [02:21:58] <Dan___> oh interesting
  271. [02:22:00] <rcn-ee> might be.. it does a git fetch, so those missing bits will show up when it does the checkout..
  272. [02:22:48] <Dan___> so is it a problem? do I need to change anything?
  273. [02:23:37] <rcn-ee> no you shouldn't have to do anything.. it tries pretty hard to get a clean git branch to start doing stuff.. is it doing something weird?
  274. [02:24:22] <Dan___> not sure
  275. [02:24:31] <rcn-ee> which bzr tree are you doing?
  276. [02:25:13] <Dan___> 2.6.37-devel
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  278. [02:26:24] <rcn-ee> okay, in the system.sh there's three things you need to do.. point LINUX_GIT to the dir where you do a git clone of linux-2.6-stable..
  279. [02:26:41] <rcn-ee> where do you have linux-2.6-stable at the moment?
  280. [02:27:01] <rcn-ee> easiest thing to do is 'pwd' in that root dir..
  281. [02:28:10] <Dan___> hmm i'm pointing LINUX_GIT to something else right now
  282. [02:28:14] <Dan___> linux-omap-2.6
  283. [02:28:17] <Dan___> is that the same thing?
  284. [02:28:25] <Dan___> i wasn't sure what to point it to
  285. [02:28:25] <rcn-ee> no it's not...
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  287. [02:28:35] <rcn-ee> it's close..
  288. [02:29:26] <Dan___> is that torvolds' branch?
  289. [02:29:32] <Dan___> sorry linux compiling noob here
  290. [02:29:51] <Dan___> also, does it work with other branches?
  291. [02:30:02] <Dan___> say, for example, that I want to use linux-omap-pm
  292. [02:30:03] <rcn-ee> that branch i point to is a combination of everything, it's torvalds in master, plus all the 'stable' 2.6.36.1 etc...
  293. [02:30:26] <rcn-ee> basicly it's a nice tree to get any of the 'stable' branches..
  294. [02:30:44] <Dan___> i see
  295. [02:31:13] <Dan___> how do i download it?
  296. [02:31:34] <Dan___> the default path is: ~/git_repo/linux-2.6-stable
  297. [02:32:41] <Dan___> i'm assuming that i need to git pull it and set the LINUX_GIT path to point to it, right?
  298. [02:33:11] <rcn-ee> you can git clone linux-2.6-stable anywhere, just tweak that variable to point where you have it..
  299. [02:33:20] <cwicks> Jefro the hub is the one special computing sells
  300. [02:34:09] <Jefro> cwicks thanks - I think we are on a better road now :)
  301. [02:34:39] <rcn-ee> Dan___, basicly just copy the line above the "LINUX_GIT=" and paste it on the command line, somewhere you keep all your development git tree's...
  302. [02:35:25] <Dan___> ah ha i see
  303. [02:35:27] <rcn-ee> Dan___, if you have another tree already, you can mimize the dl by useing "--reference /dir/to/other/linux.git" just remember the two dir's will be linked.
  304. [02:35:49] <cwicks> prpplague - are you a UT student checking in?
  305. [02:36:05] <prpplague> cwicks: uh what?
  306. [02:37:08] <cwicks> I'm looking for University of Texas Students doing the beagleboard challenge checking in for Monday nite office hours?
  307. [02:37:39] <prpplague> cwicks: ahh , not i
  308. [02:38:04] <djlewis> hehee
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  310. [02:42:41] <cwicks> prpplague, thanks - take a look if you like and help a student when you can on the IRC http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Beagle_Board_Open_Source_Design_Challenge
  311. [02:42:57] <cwicks> Also all community members will be invited to vote next month to award the prizes
  312. [02:43:13] <cwicks> Before I sign off - any more UT students tonight???
  313. [02:45:15] <prpplague> cwicks: i think my current assignments will prevent me helping that much, hehe
  314. [02:45:59] * prpplague is guessing cwicks is a new coop at TI
  315. [02:48:23] <ds2> do any of the projects work yet? :D
  316. [02:48:53] <djlewis> i think they are still bringing up boards ?
  317. [02:49:19] <ds2> Oh
  318. [02:50:15] <cwicks> prpplague: thanks for the complement - my child will get a kick out of my youthful reputation - I'm actually the university program manager at TI running the contest
  319. [02:51:03] <cwicks> Hope you find some time to visit the projects and give your opinion and encouragement to the students -
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  322. [02:53:03] <cwicks> I had word from one group tonight that their software runs on PC and they are just porting to the beagle now
  323. [02:54:37] * prpplague is current working with the wbu
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  325. [02:55:05] <ds2> so when's the panda breed project going to start? :D
  326. [02:55:32] <prpplague> breed project?
  327. [02:55:40] * prpplague isn't familiar with that
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  329. [02:57:01] <ds2> breeding
  330. [02:57:32] * prpplague is guessing that ds2 is making a joke
  331. [02:57:44] <ds2> prpplague: http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_9225000/9225918.stm
  332. [02:57:51] <ds2> =)
  333. [02:58:05] <prpplague> ahh
  334. [02:58:46] <ds2> I think current count for pandas and pandaboards are roughly about the same ;)
  335. [02:59:29] <prpplague> hehe indeed
  336. [02:59:57] * prpplague would love to tell you why but can't
  337. [03:00:41] <ds2> need more bamboo!!!
  338. [03:02:11] <prpplague> hehe
  339. [03:05:04] <cwicks> okay signing off - have a great night beagle fans
  340. [03:05:24] <prpplague> cwicks: later
  341. [03:05:28] <djlewis> barooo
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  347. [03:25:01] <djlewis> some laptops were never intended to be taken apart and put back together :P
  348. [03:31:08] <prpplague> djlewis: hehe
  349. [03:31:24] * prpplague has disassembled alot of laptops and netbooks lately
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  351. [03:33:41] <djlewis> I have a 2003 model netbook, Sharp Actuis un32w i'm wrestling with
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  353. [03:34:34] <prpplague> djlewis: ahh the new laptops are alot easier
  354. [03:35:03] <djlewis> I especially love the ones with 100 screws all different
  355. [03:35:18] <djlewis> NOT!!!
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  357. [03:44:04] <djlewis> but this little booger has a retracting keyboard making it even more interesting
  358. [03:45:36] <Dan___> hey guys, i get a seg fault when running rootstock, any ideas?
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  360. [03:45:58] <djlewis> yeah, don't run rootstock ;)
  361. [03:46:02] <Dan___> :p
  362. [03:46:14] <Dan___> usr/bin/rootstock: line 282: 27543 Segmentation fault qemu-system-arm $QEMUOPTS -append "${APPEND}" > $QEMUFIFO 2>&1
  363. [03:46:58] <Dan___> is rootstock bad or something? the guides say to use it
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  369. [03:50:53] <djlewis> i did wink.
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  372. [03:54:56] <rsalveti> Dan___: known issue with qemu, it's quite normal to face segfaults
  373. [03:55:07] <rsalveti> unfortunately qemu is not stable as we wanted for arm
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  376. [03:58:30] <Dan___> rsalveti: thanks
  377. [03:58:48] <Dan___> it generated the proper file anyways
  378. [03:59:01] <Dan___> rcn-ee: are you there?
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  380. [03:59:23] <Dan___> i've generated a new kernel and root dir using the correct git repo
  381. [03:59:25] <Dan___> but it still doesn't boot
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  383. [03:59:55] <Dan___> the error is that it's stuck on "Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel"
  384. [03:59:57] <Dan___> same as before
  385. [04:04:51] <rcn-ee> Dan___, did you change console to ttyO2? vs the old ttyS2?
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  387. [04:05:16] <Dan___> ah, in the boot.scr?
  388. [04:05:31] <rcn-ee> yeap, 2.6.37-rc's there's a change in the serial driver..
  389. [04:05:39] <Dan___> oh interesting
  390. [04:05:46] <Dan___> no i did not, will try it out now
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  392. [04:06:02] <rcn-ee> it's 'O' in omap-serial, vs 'S' serial
  393. [04:06:28] <Dan___> letter O?
  394. [04:06:32] <Dan___> not number zero
  395. [04:06:33] <Dan___> ?
  396. [04:06:42] <rcn-ee> exactly. ;) letter..
  397. [04:06:48] <Dan___> ok gotcha :)
  398. [04:07:09] <Dan___> setenv bootargs console=ttyO2,115200n8 console=tty0 ... etc
  399. [04:07:14] <Dan___> ok gonna try this out now
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  401. [04:09:00] <Dan___> nice, that worked :)
  402. [04:09:04] <Dan___> thanks!
  403. [04:09:04] <rcn-ee> cool
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  407. [04:11:08] <Dan___> Hmm now it's stuck on "Freeing init memory: 280K"
  408. [04:11:28] <Dan___> any ideas?
  409. [04:11:45] <rcn-ee> yeap, you also need to add /etc/init/tty02.conf .. ;)
  410. [04:12:32] <rcn-ee> there should be a /etc/init/ttyS2.conf so with your other pc, copy ttyS2.conf to ttyO2.conf and edit the only ttyS2 in it..
  411. [04:14:02] <Dan___> yup
  412. [04:14:12] <Dan___> ok trying again
  413. [04:16:42] <Dan___> ok i now have the stupidest error of all time
  414. [04:16:53] <Dan___> i can't log in
  415. [04:17:00] <rcn-ee> is it my image?
  416. [04:17:11] <Dan___> sudo rootstock --fqdn beagleboard --login ubuntu --password temppwd
  417. [04:17:12] <Dan___> nope
  418. [04:17:24] <Dan___> i generated it using rootstock
  419. [04:17:28] <Dan___> i had this problem before but i couldn't fix it
  420. [04:17:30] <Dan___> still getting it...
  421. [04:17:44] <Dan___> i set the username/pass as above
  422. [04:18:27] <Dan___> do you think maybe the rootstock segfault may be the issue?
  423. [04:18:55] <rcn-ee> if it segfaulted, it might have exited before the username/password was set...
  424. [04:19:09] <rcn-ee> since user/pass is about the last thing it did..
  425. [04:19:25] <Dan___> it always segfaults at the same place...
  426. [04:19:36] <rcn-ee> are you doing a lot of x11 packages?
  427. [04:19:39] <Dan___> is there some default user/pass?
  428. [04:19:53] <Dan___> yes
  429. [04:20:06] <Dan___> --seed btrfs-tools,i2c-tools,emacs,vim,pastebinit,uboot-envtools,uboot-mkimage,usbutils,wget,xfce4,gdm,xubuntu-gdm-theme,xubuntu-artwork,xserver-xorg-video-omap3
  430. [04:20:13] <Dan___> should i try a minimal install?
  431. [04:21:03] <rcn-ee> yeah, it'll segfault before it's done.. if you want that image built, you should boot the beagle with one of my demo images (maverick) then run rootstock from bzr trunk on the beagle.. much more reliable for x11 imgaes..
  432. [04:21:46] <rcn-ee> you'll probally need between 3-4gig's of extra space, so use an usb external harddrive mounted on the beagle..
  433. [04:21:49] <Dan___> ah i see
  434. [04:22:00] <Dan___> i don't really mind, it's just for my own convenience
  435. [04:22:03] <Dan___> i'll try the minimal install for now
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  437. [04:22:39] <rcn-ee> it's a long standing qemu bug.... ever since lucid, the debian packages have been really pushing qemu to the limits..
  438. [04:22:53] <Dan___> i see..
  439. [04:24:57] <Dan___> btw, is there an easy way to create an SD image so that I can revert to this later on? also I'm sure that other people will find it helpful :)
  440. [04:28:14] <rcn-ee> sure... my demo images are just the output of rootstock with a script to dump it to an sd card..
  441. [04:28:46] <IanWiz> rcn-ee: have you put together any panda images yet?
  442. [04:29:22] <rcn-ee> as long as you don't care for video/dsp/sgx and audio.. i do...
  443. [04:30:21] <IanWiz> he he...well i currently don't have a working display due to hdmi driver issues, so, i'll take what I can get!
  444. [04:31:01] <Dan___> ok cool
  445. [04:31:06] <Max_Galemin> Dan___: btrfs-tools? o_O
  446. [04:31:54] <rcn-ee> IanWiz, okay, all the posted ubuntu image's on elinux have a hidden "--uboot panda" but they ship with 2.6.35, you'll need to build my 2.6.37-devel tree and copy it to the card after runing "setup_sdcard.sh"
  447. [04:33:01] <IanWiz> ok, can do.
  448. [04:33:28] <rcn-ee> so download one of the demo images updated over the weekend (lucid, maverick, or even natty).. run setup_sdcard with --uboot panda, then copy the uImage and modules from 2.6.37-devel.. ;)
  449. [04:33:29] <Dan___> oh no, rootstock still segfaults
  450. [04:33:36] <Dan___> sudo rootstock --fqdn beagleboard --login ubuntu --password temppwd --imagesize 2G --dist maverick --serial ttyO2 --seed wget,nano,linux-firmware,wireless-tools,usbutils,emacs --components "main universe multiverse" --kernel-image http://localhost/linux-image-2.6.37-rc4+_1.0cross_armel.deb
  451. [04:33:41] <IanWiz> do you anticipate incorporating dsp/video/sgx in the near future? or a little busy as it is?
  452. [04:34:13] <rcn-ee> Dan___, maybe 'emacs' never tried that one, the rest look good..
  453. [04:34:34] <Dan___> ok, i'll give that a shot...
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  455. [04:35:11] <rcn-ee> IanWiz, for sgx, i have my eye on importing ubutnu's omap4-sgx branch and sticking in a staging tree.. i think dsp should work with dspbridge... video i played with the latest from tomba's tree, but we loose omap3's video..
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  457. [04:36:27] <IanWiz> i've been playing with sakoman's GNOME image, but my only hdmi capable monitor doesn't like the panda's driver, so I'm stuck with serial atm. doesn't matter as it's not mission critical yet.
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  459. [04:37:30] <rcn-ee> for me: as soon as i got the ehci/ethernet working, i can do something with this now ;)
  460. [04:39:21] <IanWiz> find it odd that the initial "bring-up" for omap4 in the wild has been a little dificult? or just due to omap4 being a restricted chip, in that panda & blaze are the only implementations for the public?
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  463. [04:41:01] <sakoman> IanWiz: the omap3 was a much more mature product at the time that beagle was done
  464. [04:41:18] <rcn-ee> just my opinion.. ;) if it would have been done like how the beagle's initial bringup was, it would have been better at launch.. ;)
  465. [04:42:24] <IanWiz> got ya. at least xM and panda are pushing the major distros to be ARM friendly. hopefully in 5 years time everything will be more streamlined.
  466. [04:42:24] <sakoman> rcn-ee: I don't know that the beagle was all that much better -- there were lots of hw issues with both musb and ehci
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  469. [04:42:50] <sakoman> rcn-ee: there was no sound driver . . .
  470. [04:43:02] <rcn-ee> sakoman, yeah the musb took a good year to figure out it was 8k vs 16k sram... but i remember getting my beagle that week and video was working.. ;)
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  472. [04:43:39] <Dan___> rcn-ee: still segfaulting...
  473. [04:44:02] <Dan___> sudo rootstock --fqdn beagleboard --login ubuntu --password temppwd --imagesize 2G --dist maverick --serial ttyO2 --seed wget,nano,linux-firmware,wireless-tools,usbutils --components "main universe multiverse" --kernel-image http://localhost/linux-image-2.6.37-rc4+_1.0cross_armel.deb
  474. [04:44:36] <sakoman> rcn-ee: video seems to work on Panda
  475. [04:44:59] <sakoman> not for IanWiz though :-(
  476. [04:45:09] <IanWiz> <-- just made the mistake of buying a crap display on sale, is all. :)
  477. [04:45:38] <rcn-ee> Dan___, very strange.. here's mine for reference. https://github.com/RobertCNelson/omap-image-builder/blob/master/build_image.sh#L85 (i run that on x86/arm/etc..)
  478. [04:46:03] <rcn-ee> you don't have anything more then i do..
  479. [04:46:11] <rcn-ee> are you running lucid or maverick for your host os?
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  481. [04:48:28] <Dan___> it looks like your rootstock is patched, is that correct?
  482. [04:48:30] <Dan___> i'm running lucid
  483. [04:48:44] <rcn-ee> just small tweaks...
  484. [04:48:54] <IanWiz> Dan___ I may be making this up, but for whatever reason I had issues with rootstock and using ubuntu/temppwd...maybe try a different default log/pass?
  485. [04:49:13] <Dan___> haha that would be strange indeed
  486. [04:49:15] <Dan___> i'll give it a shot
  487. [04:49:15] <rcn-ee> with lucid, i would atleast run bzr trunk... there was a lot of tweaks done in the maverick release cycle for bullitproofing rootstock..
  488. [04:49:22] <Dan___> all i did was run: sudo apt-get install rootstock
  489. [04:50:23] <rcn-ee> Dan___, for rootstock on lucid, use the trunk via: "bzr branch lp:project-rootstock"
  490. [04:50:35] <Dan___> ok
  491. [04:51:01] <Dan___> i'm generating an image for maverick though
  492. [04:51:06] <Dan___> although i don't really care either way
  493. [04:51:10] <Dan___> maverick vs lucid
  494. [04:51:32] <rcn-ee> that's fine running lucid as the host os to build for maverick..
  495. [04:52:07] <rcn-ee> basicly alot of the changes in the maverick development cycle was to mimize how much qemu is actually used and to work around some of the minor issues..
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  497. [04:55:21] <IanWiz> is there a comparable ARM-ready distro that offers similar live-RAM function, like Puppy Linux or Slitaz?
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  499. [05:06:07] <Dan___> oh good, either changing the password or using the latest version of rootstock removed the segfauilt
  500. [05:06:14] <Dan___> *segfault
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  502. [05:08:27] <IanWiz> good job Dan! Now you can start patching the holes in the wall from your fists of frustration ;)
  503. [05:13:58] <Dan___> hahaha
  504. [05:14:06] <Dan___> not sure just yet
  505. [05:14:18] <Dan___> coping over the root fs is a bit slow
  506. [05:17:28] <IanWiz> yeah, i just found my usb HD, so tomorrow I am moving my rootfs to USB. wish I had USB3 on my "animals"
  507. [05:20:51] <Dan___> yessss, i can log in now :D
  508. [05:20:58] <Dan___> thanks guys!
  509. [05:21:04] <Dan___> (and gals)
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  511. [05:21:44] <Dan___> hmm maybe that was premature
  512. [05:22:22] <Dan___> it worked over the serial, but I don't seem to be able to boot with a monitor
  513. [05:22:27] <Dan___> stuck on:
  514. [05:22:45] <Dan___> plymouth main process (59) killed by SEGV signal
  515. [05:23:07] <Dan___> similarly with plymouth-splash and plymouth-log
  516. [05:25:51] <Dan___> any ideas, anyone?
  517. [05:30:44] <IanWiz> errr, on a desktop install I think you would edit /etc/default/grub. but i don't think that's applicable here...as there is no grub
  518. [05:31:26] <IanWiz> pass text instead of splash in the aforementioned. but, i am a newb and am talking out of my rear quite possibly.
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  520. [05:33:12] <Dan___> Ian, what do you mean by passing text?
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  523. [05:35:19] <IanWiz> if you look on your desktop system, in /etc/default/ you will see a grub file, that passes GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
  524. [05:36:04] <IanWiz> but these rootfs don't have a grub system, so I'm not sure where it initiates the splash command.
  525. [05:36:22] <IanWiz> rcn-ee or sakoman would know.
  526. [05:36:34] <Dan___> yeah... no grub file there...
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  529. [05:39:12] <sakoman> Dan___: what are you trying to do?
  530. [05:39:53] <ds2> Hmmm
  531. [05:42:32] <Dan___> sakoman: I'm trying to boot linux over a DVI connection (connected to an LCD)
  532. [05:42:44] <Dan___> it previously worked when I was booting over a serial connection
  533. [05:43:36] <Dan___> I mostly followed the directions here: http://www.elinux.org/BeagleBoard_Ubuntu_%26_DSP_From_Sources
  534. [05:43:51] <sakoman> Dan___: are you getting video output?
  535. [05:44:15] <ds2> are you overclocking?
  536. [05:44:18] <Dan___> I can see output on my LCD screen
  537. [05:44:19] <Dan___> nope
  538. [05:44:22] <Dan___> not overclocking
  539. [05:44:31] <Dan___> i think i'm setting mpurate to 500 currently
  540. [05:44:57] <Dan___> yup, just confirmed
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  542. [05:46:11] <sakoman> Dan___: if you are getting video output, then something is broken in your image -- sadly I don't use Ubuntu, so I can't be of much help
  543. [05:46:26] <Dan___> damn, that sucks
  544. [05:46:27] <Dan___> thanks
  545. [05:47:10] <sakoman> if you know what you are doing you could likely use the serial console to debug the issue
  546. [05:47:36] <ds2> isn't it more fun to blindly stab at it? :D
  547. [05:48:23] <Dan___> ok this is interesting
  548. [05:48:33] <Dan___> i've now hooked up the beagleboard to both DVI and serial
  549. [05:48:42] <Dan___> the serial one reaches the login screen just fine
  550. [05:49:00] <Dan___> the LCD display shows the same error as before
  551. [05:49:51] <Dan___> ok i found out something stupid
  552. [05:49:54] <Dan___> my file system is read only
  553. [05:50:19] <ds2> xM or C4?
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  555. [05:50:30] <Dan___> C4
  556. [05:50:41] <Dan___> changing the bootargs
  557. [05:52:02] <ds2> what's rootfs? NAND?
  558. [05:52:44] <Dan___> SD card
  559. [05:52:54] <Dan___> my boot.cmd file is some strange hybrid
  560. [05:53:11] <Dan___> i changed the bootargs from ro to rw
  561. [05:53:19] <Dan___> that worked and removed the plymouth error
  562. [05:53:24] <Dan___> but now the LCD screen is just blank
  563. [05:53:33] <Dan___> it'll boot just fine then go to a blank screen
  564. [05:53:50] <Dan___> could this be because i'm connected to both the terminal console as well as DVI?
  565. [05:54:06] <ds2> nope
  566. [05:54:10] <Dan___> darn
  567. [05:54:16] <ds2> probally X is foobared or something
  568. [05:54:45] <Dan___> it should be booting to a console I think
  569. [05:54:53] <Dan___> it shouldn't be coming with X
  570. [05:55:34] <rcn-ee> Dan___, no both serial and terminal should work... what does "dmesg | grep omapfb" show.. (use pastebin.com)
  571. [05:58:55] <Dan___> wow nothing
  572. [05:59:09] <Dan___> except for the original kernel command line
  573. [05:59:18] <Dan___> lemme try using pastebin
  574. [05:59:50] <rcn-ee> should have been atleast a 'omapfb_init' and 'omapfb_probe'
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  578. [06:01:14] <ds2> is this a proper launchpad kernel?
  579. [06:01:30] <Dan___> yeah
  580. [06:02:13] <Dan___> using this one:
  581. [06:02:14] <Dan___> https://code.launchpad.net/~beagleboard-kernel/+junk/2.6.37-devel
  582. [06:02:43] <Dan___> http://pastebin.com/9Q8vgj93
  583. [06:02:48] <Dan___> i had to email that to myself haha
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  585. [06:03:20] <Dan___> guh, all that work and DSP doesn't even work
  586. [06:03:52] <rcn-ee> Dan___, i'm getting this with that kernel http://pastebin.com/nMwZbK5e
  587. [06:04:38] <rcn-ee> yeah, throw in "omapfb.debug=y" to your bootargs, it might tell us more..
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  589. [06:05:36] <Dan___> yeah definitely missing all those OMAP statements
  590. [06:05:40] <Dan___> ok
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  592. [06:09:09] <Dan___> ok now i'm getting those statements
  593. [06:09:22] <Dan___> http://pastebin.com/P2WfpLsH
  594. [06:11:15] <rcn-ee> humm, and still no go with your display showing anything? has any image before worked with your lcd? what kind is it?
  595. [06:12:20] <Dan___> yeah it worked with the maverick demo image here: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu
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  597. [06:12:32] <Dan___> also it displays the beginning part of the boot process just fine
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  599. [06:13:02] <Dan___> it just turns to a blank screen right about when the serial console shows the terminal
  600. [06:13:03] <rcn-ee> Sweet, sounds like a regression... c4 right?
  601. [06:13:10] <Dan___> yeah C4
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  603. [06:15:30] <rcn-ee> i double check 2.6.37 first thing tomorrow with my c4, i don't remember if i booted that board with that verison lately.. i know the panda my xM has..
  604. [06:15:36] <Dan___> the last message displayed by the LCD before it just shows a cursor flashing at the top of the screen: ureadahead main process terminated with status 5
  605. [06:16:03] <rcn-ee> yeah, that's ureadahead getting confused cause it doesn't see ubuntu's kernel bits..
  606. [06:16:53] <Dan___> so it's fine?
  607. [06:17:00] <Dan___> hmm
  608. [06:17:04] <rcn-ee> just for shits, can you run "wget http://rcn-ee.net/deb/maverick/v2.6.37-rc4-dl3/install-me.sh" and tthen "/bin/bash install-me.sh" on your beagle and reboot.. your current uImage will be saved as uImage_backup..
  609. [06:17:37] <Dan___> cool, will do
  610. [06:19:02] <Dan___> wait I run this on the beagleboard?
  611. [06:19:11] <ds2> 8
  612. [06:19:13] <rcn-ee> yeap... it'll error out if it's x86
  613. [06:19:39] <Dan___> looking at the script, looks like i'll need a network connection
  614. [06:19:48] <Dan___> gonna have to log off here then
  615. [06:19:53] <Dan___> (only one ethernet cable haha)
  616. [06:19:55] <Dan___> brb
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  620. [06:37:03] <Dan__> ok i can't get ethernet working on the beagleboard now
  621. [06:37:14] <Dan__> so sorry, no image for you...
  622. [06:37:39] <Dan__> eth0 isn't being detected by ifconfig, although looking at the bootup sequence the ethernet driver is being loaded
  623. [06:39:05] <rcn-ee> do you have the matching modules in /lib/modules/$(uname -r)
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  625. [06:39:45] <Dan__> seems like a no
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  627. [06:40:02] <rcn-ee> that would also help explain the lack of screen too...
  628. [06:40:09] <Dan__> i just have a bunch of modules.* files
  629. [06:40:52] <Dan__> another pastebin:
  630. [06:41:08] <Dan__> http://pastebin.com/uCmbmxqJ
  631. [06:41:43] <rcn-ee> they should be under kernel..
  632. [06:41:47] <rcn-ee> it looks fine..
  633. [06:42:00] <rcn-ee> uname -r is "2.6.37-rc4+" right?
  634. [06:42:56] <Dan__> oh my bad
  635. [06:43:09] <Dan__> yes
  636. [06:43:38] <rcn-ee> i'd retry forcing the network "sudo ifconfig -a" then eth0 should show up..
  637. [06:44:20] <Dan__> shows lo and usb0
  638. [06:44:41] <rcn-ee> does lsmod show anything?
  639. [06:45:02] <Dan__> lsmod shows nothing
  640. [06:45:13] <Dan__> just "modules, size, used by"
  641. [06:45:13] <rcn-ee> dang, it's not findig the modules then..
  642. [06:46:09] <Dan__> :(
  643. [06:46:51] <rcn-ee> you had used the build_deb.sh script, i use the same deb-pkg command from that script on my native builds....
  644. [06:48:29] <Dan__> this says to run build_kernel.sh instead...
  645. [06:48:29] <Dan__> http://www.elinux.org/BeagleBoard_Ubuntu_%26_DSP_From_Sources#Build_the_Kernel
  646. [06:49:07] <rcn-ee> yeah, that bzr tree is ancient now... the dspbridge in 2.6.37-rc4 is in much better shape..
  647. [06:49:39] <Dan__> yeah i basically followed those directions with the latest tree
  648. [06:50:12] <Dan__> so i performed the patches and ran build_kernel.sh
  649. [06:50:24] <rcn-ee> i'd download and copy it to your beagle's sd card: http://rcn-ee.net/deb/maverick/v2.6.37-rc4-dl3/linux-image-2.6.37-rc4-dl3_1.0maverick_armel.deb then loosely following the 'install-me.sh' script install it..
  650. [06:51:48] <rcn-ee> then you just have to follow the dsp-gst and other userspace stuff...
  651. [06:52:13] <rcn-ee> dsp loads: [ 0.473876] omap_dsp_init: 600000 bytes @ 8ee00000
  652. [06:53:40] * rcn-ee crap time flies, i'm out for night...
  653. [06:53:46] <Dan__> do I need the initrd?
  654. [06:53:53] <Dan__> night
  655. [06:54:01] <Dan__> yeah i should head out too
  656. [06:54:05] <Dan__> thanks for the help
  657. [06:54:21] <rcn-ee> no problem... not really.. just for 'fixrtc'
  658. [06:54:50] <Dan__> what's that?
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  703. [09:31:38] <gisborne> @#$!(*@#% xM does nothing. :-(
  704. [09:32:27] <av500> you are holding it wrong
  705. [09:32:41] <lyakh> gisborne: it does... but, perhaps, not what you expect, as also was my experience... and still pretty much is:(
  706. [09:33:14] <gisborne> Grateful for some advice, if someone has time. I got ahold of Angstrom-Beagleboard-demo-image-glibc-ipk-2010.3-beagleboard.sd-image-2GiB.img. I put it on the sd card with bunzip2 Angstrom-Beagleboard-demo-image-glibc-ipk-2010.3-beagleboard.sd-image-2GiB.img > /dev/sdb
  707. [09:33:27] <av500> sounds correct
  708. [09:33:39] <gisborne> I connected it to a serial terminal set to 115200 8N1
  709. [09:33:40] <av500> err
  710. [09:33:45] <av500> .img is bz2?
  711. [09:33:46] <gisborne> I also connected it to a DVI display.
  712. [09:34:02] <gisborne> Yes, it's bz2.
  713. [09:34:16] <gisborne> I left off the bz2.
  714. [09:34:34] <av500> and where is the "-c" to output to stdout?
  715. [09:34:41] <gisborne> When I power it, I get a single unintelligible character, followed by maybe 100 more about 10 seconds later, then nothing.
  716. [09:34:46] <gisborne> Nothing on the display.
  717. [09:34:58] <gisborne> Yes, sorry, I did -c
  718. [09:36:19] <av500> how do you power it?
  719. [09:36:45] <gisborne> 5V 3A external power adapter. This gives me 2 green lights
  720. [09:37:02] <gisborne> I've also tried Y USB cable; same result
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  722. [09:40:40] <jacekowski> hmm, smallest ARM SoC capable of running linux
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  724. [09:43:48] <gisborne> sd card has two partitions, both MS-DOS. 1st is 74MB, called "BOOT", and consists of 4 files.
  725. [09:43:51] <lyakh> gisborne: no idea what that image is, but try looking at your sd card on your Linux machine: the first partition shall be marked bootable and contain a MLO and a u-boot.bin files
  726. [09:44:10] <lyakh> boot flag?
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  729. [09:47:49] <gisborne> How do I determine if the boot flag is set?
  730. [09:48:48] <av500> gisborne: the card looks ok
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  732. [09:53:00] <gisborne> av500: I don't understand. Are you saying that 4 files is good?
  733. [09:53:17] <av500> yes
  734. [09:54:19] <lyakh> the boot flag _is_ important. see in *fdisk / *parted / ...
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  736. [09:55:27] <av500> lyakh: yes, but since this a full disk image, it should have the boot flag
  737. [09:55:35] <gisborne> That doesn't look like a legitimate bash command to me.
  738. [09:56:02] <lyakh> av500: right, thought so too, but I didn't use any of those pre-baked images, so...
  739. [09:56:28] <lyakh> gisborne: there weren't any, I mean, try one of fdisk, cfdisk, sfdisk, parted, gparter,...
  740. [09:58:04] <lyakh> s/gparter/gparted/
  741. [09:58:16] <av500> gisborne: fdisk /dev/sdb
  742. [09:58:18] <av500> type p
  743. [09:59:03] <gisborne> Yep. Bootable.
  744. [09:59:06] <gisborne> Thanks.
  745. [09:59:18] <gisborne> So do I have a defective BeagleBoard?
  746. [09:59:46] <lyakh> gisborne: unlikely, does it work with the supplied sd-card?
  747. [09:59:55] <gisborne> This is the supplied SD card.
  748. [10:00:12] <lyakh> oh... but you've erased it without even trying first?
  749. [10:00:35] <gisborne> Yes. I am a fool. Many have commented to this effect and often with stronger language. But now I must move on.
  750. [10:01:11] <lyakh> but is it a 2G card actually? mine was 128M only
  751. [10:02:38] <av500> true, that might be an issue
  752. [10:02:45] <gisborne> 1826296 1K blocks on the larger partition.
  753. [10:03:13] <gisborne> Or is that just the partition map and it's all confused?
  754. [10:03:17] <av500> pastebin the whole fdisk output
  755. [10:03:43] <lyakh> there's something about nandboot in u-boot environment, is it at all working? can one get anything out of the board without an sd-card?
  756. [10:03:52] <av500> no
  757. [10:03:58] <av500> no boot from nand
  758. [10:04:44] <av500> some xm have nand by accident, but you cant boot from it
  759. [10:04:57] <gisborne> pastebin.com/2Tnms8PR
  760. [10:05:41] <lyakh> hm, I might be the lucky one - saveenv works for me;)
  761. [10:06:52] <av500> gisborne: ok, looks like a 4gb card
  762. [10:07:07] <av500> my xm came with a 4gb card as well
  763. [10:07:26] <lyakh> huh... they don't seem to be very consistent...
  764. [10:07:26] <gisborne> Bonus. Except still no explanation why no workie.
  765. [10:10:03] <lyakh> gisborne: so, what are those 4 files in your small partition?
  766. [10:10:37] <gisborne> MLO; boot.scr; u-boot.bin; uImage
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  769. [10:12:34] <av500> as expected
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  771. [10:13:07] <lyakh> yeah... looks ok
  772. [10:16:13] <gisborne> So what can I do?
  773. [10:16:25] <gisborne> Can I make it boot from a USB drive maybe?
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  775. [10:17:44] <szoszi> hello, does anyone know what happened to angstrom's narcissus?
  776. [10:17:58] <lyakh> gisborne: was that image for xm or for the original bb?
  777. [10:19:26] <gisborne> I thought it to be for the xm.
  778. [10:19:30] <gisborne> How would I tell?
  779. [10:23:26] <lyakh> gisborne: by looking at where you've got it from?...
  780. [10:24:19] <gisborne> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/sd-images/2gb/Angstrom-Beagleboard-demo-image-glibc-ipk-2010.3-beagleboard.sd-image-2GiB.img.bz22l
  781. [10:24:42] <gisborne> The URL doesn't obviously indicate.
  782. [10:25:38] <av500> thats ok
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  784. [10:26:43] <lyakh> maybe someone could give you the original sd-card image to try
  785. [10:27:15] <gisborne> Or perhaps I could download a known-good xM image?
  786. [10:27:23] <gisborne> Or was that one?
  787. [10:27:45] <av500> that is one
  788. [10:29:05] <gisborne> Then it's not clear why any different also-good one would work when this doesn't, including the original.
  789. [10:29:30] <gisborne> Should the DVI port be activated when running that one?
  790. [10:30:58] <av500> yes
  791. [10:30:59] <koen> szoszi: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/narcissus/ is up
  792. [10:31:02] <gisborne> I have a Pandora. Should I be able to boot the Pandora from it?
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  798. [10:37:27] <lyakh> gisborne: or I can give you the files from my sd-card
  799. [10:38:14] <gisborne> I'll try anything and be thankful for the help. Although I didn't understand the "or" in that sentence.
  800. [10:38:42] <lyakh> "or" means, if you don't get anything directly applicable to your 4G card
  801. [10:39:04] <lyakh> so, my files you'll have to copy manually to a manually created partition on your card
  802. [10:39:49] <gisborne> Not quite clear what you're saying. I got something that I understand is directly applicable to my 4G card.
  803. [10:39:54] <gisborne> Didn't I?
  804. [10:41:14] <lyakh> since it didn't work, maybe it wasn't directly applicable to your board, there can be different revisions, or whatever
  805. [10:42:41] <gisborne> Well, the card is partitioned, so if I can get the files and put them on there, it should work. He says with confidence.
  806. [10:42:59] <gisborne> So I'll take your files gratefully.
  807. [10:54:29] <gisborne> How might I get them?
  808. [10:56:15] <lyakh> gisborne: got my pm?
  809. [10:56:22] <lyakh> or are you not registered?
  810. [10:56:37] <gisborne> Registered where?
  811. [10:56:43] <lyakh> here, on irc
  812. [10:57:18] <lyakh> or blocking pms?
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  814. [10:59:45] <lyakh> gisborne: try copying the files in your existing partition first. if that doesn't work, you can try deleting and creating a suitable partition and FS manually
  815. [11:00:05] <gisborne> Trying it now. Thanks.
  816. [11:00:38] <gisborne> What's a .xz file?
  817. [11:02:49] <lyakh> xz-compressed
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  821. [11:03:03] <lyakh> just try "tar xf" - should recognise automatically
  822. [11:03:46] <gisborne> Recent ubuntu's tar doesn't know it.
  823. [11:03:57] <gisborne> Nor does its archive manager.
  824. [11:04:34] <lyakh> try to get some lzma package
  825. [11:05:04] <lyakh> or maybe xz directly
  826. [11:05:13] <gisborne> What's the advantage of this? Why not just use bzip?
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  828. [11:06:15] <gisborne> Looks like Ubuntu has a lzma command.
  829. [11:07:06] <gisborne> No, that doesn't work.
  830. [11:07:07] <lyakh> better compression
  831. [11:07:19] <lyakh> an xz package?
  832. [11:07:57] <gisborne> Nothing in ubuntu standard repository for xz.
  833. [11:08:27] <lyakh> grrr...
  834. [11:08:34] <av500> gisborne: the demo image should work, it worked for me
  835. [11:08:56] <gisborne> I'm sure I can eventually find something that will read it. Never come across this before.
  836. [11:08:59] <av500> and many others
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  838. [11:10:06] <lyakh> gisborne: in 5min you'll get a .bz2 at the same location
  839. [11:10:26] <gisborne> That will certainly be easier.
  840. [11:11:39] <koen> cute
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  842. [11:11:46] <koen> letter from the municipality
  843. [11:12:11] <koen> "we found some metal objects in the ground next to your appartment, those might be WWII bombs"
  844. [11:14:34] <av500> stop slammin that door!
  845. [11:16:12] <lyakh> gisborne: ready
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  848. [11:22:44] <gisborne> Thanks. That boots into something recognizable. But now how do I get Ubuntu or something on there? The thing I downloaded should have worked but didn't.
  849. [11:23:25] <av500> koen: if dropped late in the war, it could be just scrap metal
  850. [11:25:25] <lyakh> av500: see, that image doesn't work for everyone...
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  852. [11:26:07] <lyakh> gisborne: I'll delete the files then, ok? you keep that locally, just in case;)
  853. [11:26:29] <gisborne> Sure, although they should probably be put on a BB wiki or something.
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  855. [11:26:36] <av500> lyakh: hmm
  856. [11:26:40] * av500 blames koen
  857. [11:27:30] <lyakh> koen: replied to your mail - got USB working, much nicer now...
  858. [11:31:16] <koen> lyakh: I need to push those upstream when I find some time
  859. [11:31:29] <lyakh> koen: yes, please do!
  860. [11:31:32] <koen> probably squash it in with the dvi patches
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  865. [11:47:30] <mor_tycia> hi everybody
  866. [11:48:03] <gisborne> Well, y'all got me started, so thanks and goodnight.
  867. [11:48:48] <mor_tycia> i have a doubt, when the kernel loads and android loads too, but keeps reseting, the problem must be with android, right?
  868. [11:49:24] <lyakh> ...while at it - has anyone by chance got a camera from leopard-imaging working with bbxm?
  869. [11:50:55] <lyakh> best with the new omap3isp stack from Laurent Pinchart, specifically mt9p031, but any other would be helpful too
  870. [11:51:06] <lyakh> I know there have been patches on the media ml
  871. [11:51:22] <lyakh> but incomplete... trying to base on them
  872. [11:51:43] <lyakh> ...or maybe with the evm?
  873. [11:51:48] <lyakh> (omap3evm)
  874. [11:53:39] <lyakh> bbl
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  876. [11:57:21] <mor_tycia> i'm trying to enable the sgx, like 0xdroid says, it compiles but keeps restarting the beagle after load kernel and android, can someone using sgx enabled send me the kernel configs?
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  878. [11:58:52] <hitlin37> i hav this char array[16][32768]...and im not able to access all the 16 element of the row in a single go in neon as each element of the row is 32768 apart...any ideas
  879. [12:01:21] <av500> rearrange your data?
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  881. [12:02:53] <hitlin37> ya this is part of rearrranging after receiving the data...
  882. [12:05:03] <hitlin37> what i thought is to store the data in reverse form[32768][16] ,then do a traspose...but traspose will hav its overhead too
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  886. [12:14:48] <koen> Your branch is behind 'mainline/master' by 32241 commits, and can be fast-forwarded.
  887. [12:14:58] <koen> I guess I should update my kernel more often
  888. [12:30:12] <mru> hehe
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  894. [12:43:52] <koen> lyakh: give http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/angstrom/beagleboard/0001-ARM-OMAP-Power-on-EHCI-serial-camera-and-DVI-on-beag.patch a try
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  907. [13:11:14] <lyakh> koen: thanks, I will, but I won't know whether it helps, until I get camera drivers in place...
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  909. [13:12:25] <koen> heh
  910. [13:12:34] <koen> that's the piece I'm missing as well
  911. [13:12:42] <koen> updated ISP drivers are easy
  912. [13:12:50] <koen> but &$*@*@($@ sensor drivers
  913. [13:14:08] <av500> haha
  914. [13:14:17] <av500> sensor drives are hell
  915. [13:14:19] <av500> and back
  916. [13:14:44] <koen> did I mention IPIPE tuning already?
  917. [13:14:52] <lyakh> koen: mt9p031 shouldn't be too difficult: (1) it is similar to mt9t031, for which I've done a driver, (2) someone posted a raw version for mt9p031, (3) he even eventually got it to run, but didn't post the final version:( but maybe he will - I've asked him...
  918. [13:14:59] <ant_work> koen: ask for ipmi on next beagle ;)
  919. [13:15:39] <koen> ant_work: you do know that dell uses OE to build their ipmi stuff, right?
  920. [13:15:55] <lyakh> 8-bit mode is missing on omap3isp, that will make it a bit more difficult
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  922. [13:18:56] <koen> lyakh: mtp031 support would be sweet
  923. [13:19:31] <koen> lyakh: subdev or soc?
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  925. [13:29:06] <lyakh> koen: to go with omap3isp, so, it has to be subdev / pad-level...
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  930. [13:40:45] <Crofton|work> how much diffference does the hard abi make versus soft abi?
  931. [13:41:39] <_koen_> not much
  932. [13:41:47] <_koen_> reduces overhead a bit
  933. [13:41:52] <_koen_> so nbench improves
  934. [13:42:03] <_koen_> and you mean softfp vs hard :)
  935. [13:42:14] <Crofton|work> I assume the two are not compatible
  936. [13:42:17] <Crofton|work> yeah
  937. [13:42:25] <_koen_> they aren't
  938. [13:42:39] <_koen_> that's why it's foo_armv7a-hardfp.ipk
  939. [13:42:42] <_koen_> in angstrom
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  952. [14:12:52] <klaas_work_> i've got this error on an omap3 based board that when i record from alsasrc with gstreamer i sometimes get white noise and i have no clue at all where i would go looking for the problem, any suggestions?
  953. [14:13:39] <av500> and pure alsa rec works?
  954. [14:14:49] <klaas_work_> hmm haven't tried that yet, i'll see if i can make me a test program
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  971. [14:51:26] <aholler> klaas_work_: just try arecord
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  1013. [15:42:23] <supjigator> 00011Apac
  1014. [15:42:31] <koen> 54
  1015. [15:42:33] <supjigator> Hello
  1016. [15:42:41] <av500> world!
  1017. [15:42:54] <supjigator> Is there a way to compile on the beagle?
  1018. [15:44:04] <supjigator> I've opkg 'd the gcc but trying to build a simple program it fails on ld lgcc_s but that lib is also installed
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  1030. [16:10:05] <likewise> lyakh: I was involved in MT9P031, I can ask the end customer (I didn't see the last bug fix).
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  1032. [16:11:01] <likewise> lyakh: the predator UAV people use the P031, not sure that driver is in sync with the framework though.
  1033. [16:11:14] <lyakh> likewise: sure, all code would be great! I've got patches from Bastian Hecht, but the more input I have, the better
  1034. [16:12:28] <likewise> lyakh: http://gitorious.org/procerus-vpu-main-linux-kernel "The driver we use is actually inside the mt9p001.c file. We expanded on that driver and made it detect whether to use the MT9P001 or MT9P031 depending on what i2c returned."
  1035. [16:12:47] <likewise> predator => procerus
  1036. [16:12:59] <lyakh> aha, cool, thanks!
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  1038. [16:13:11] <likewise> lyakh: and I have another project, but I have to ask the customer specifically
  1039. [16:13:31] <lyakh> another project also omap3 + mt9p031?
  1040. [16:13:35] <likewise> yes
  1041. [16:13:40] <koen> the camera2 guys at stanford also have a driver, but can't give it away due to the aptina NDA
  1042. [16:14:01] <likewise> koen: what if I have an aptina NDA?
  1043. [16:14:24] <likewise> probably not, NDAs are not to be played with
  1044. [16:14:55] <lyakh> usually you cannot give away the docs, but it's not about the code, you develop...
  1045. [16:16:08] <Crofton|work> William Shatner shuold stick to piloting star ships ...
  1046. [16:17:42] <likewise> lyakh: I asked my other project customer for the source code. they have it working on OMAP3.
  1047. [16:18:00] <lyakh> with MC framework?
  1048. [16:18:22] <likewise> lyakh: MC as in?
  1049. [16:18:34] * likewise thinks motion compensation
  1050. [16:18:40] * likewise thinks not
  1051. [16:18:45] <lyakh> Media Controller;)
  1052. [16:19:50] <lyakh> that's the new v4l framework + API, where OMAP3 ISP driver development is taking place
  1053. [16:19:57] <likewise> lyakh: I have contacted you then, may 2009 timeframe. I have not touched or even looked at that area since... So probably: no.
  1054. [16:22:35] <lyakh> likewise: right, found your mails. yes, back then MC wasn't that advanced yet;)
  1055. [16:23:06] <av500> why does a sensor drives need a new v4l2 api?
  1056. [16:24:21] <lyakh> av500: a sensor driver doesn't need it, perhaps, SoCs and other video / multimedia devices do...
  1057. [16:24:35] <lyakh> but sensor drivers should benefit from it too
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  1061. [16:27:24] <likewise> cya later
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  1072. [16:55:22] <likewise> lyakh: customer responded, something is on my way.
  1073. [16:56:02] <lyakh> cool!
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  1078. [17:02:03] <ssc> jefro: Still having meeting?
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  1080. [17:03:49] <likewise> koen: when was that .ca yocto meeting? you attended?
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  1086. [17:14:07] <Jefro> ssc - yes, please feel free to join
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  1094. [17:33:27] <koen> likewise: last week and yes
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  1104. [18:36:08] <djlewis_> gm
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  1106. [18:37:22] <djlewis_> its pizza day at the office :-D
  1107. [18:37:27] <djlewis_> no beer though
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  1110. [18:47:44] <mru> no beer? what a dreadful office
  1111. [18:48:40] <djlewis_> mru: you said it man...
  1112. [18:49:20] * emeb recalls hearing that Mentor Graphics used to provide beer at work.
  1113. [18:49:30] <emeb> no idea if this is still true tho
  1114. [18:50:05] <mru> might explain a thing or two about their designs
  1115. [18:50:19] <emeb> heh
  1116. [18:51:04] <mru> I remember once spending most of a monday fixing the damage caused after lunchtime beers on friday
  1117. [18:51:28] <emeb> computers should come with breathalyzers
  1118. [18:51:43] <emeb> "BAC too high - no coding for you!"
  1119. [18:52:07] <b7500af1> hah
  1120. [18:52:07] <mru> and "caffeine too low - no coding for you"
  1121. [18:52:36] <b7500af1> http://xkcd.com/323/
  1122. [18:52:39] <emeb> yeesh - that would probably require a blood sample...
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  1124. [18:56:37] <djlewis_> hehee
  1125. [18:56:55] <djlewis_> cartunist should add vista to that
  1126. [18:57:27] <djlewis_> s/cartunist/cartoonist
  1127. [18:58:30] <koen> emeb: mentor bought most of codesourcery, so there must be alcohol
  1128. [18:59:15] <dm8tbr> reminds me of someone calling them codeforgery by mistake
  1129. [19:00:15] <emeb> lol
  1130. [19:00:15] <djlewis_> oooh
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  1132. [19:00:35] <mru> "mistake"
  1133. [19:02:05] <koen> I called them that
  1134. [19:02:07] <koen> and not by accident
  1135. [19:02:38] <mru> reminds of that open source hosting site, sourceforget
  1136. [19:03:28] * djlewis_ likes fridays on tuesdays and all other days too :)
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  1138. [19:10:00] <_av500_> mru: you should work in munich, lunchtime beer is quite common
  1139. [19:10:55] <mru> I can have beer whenever I want here in southampton
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  1142. [19:16:56] <koen> Crofton|work: In file included from /OE/angstrom-dev/work/armv7a-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/uhd-git-r3.1/git/host/build/lib/transport/convert_types.cpp:11:
  1143. [19:16:59] <koen> | /OE/angstrom-dev/work/armv7a-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/uhd-git-r3.1/git/host/lib/transport/convert_types_impl.hpp: In function 'void fc32_to_item32_nswap(const fc32_t*, item32_t*, size_t)':
  1144. [19:17:03] <koen> | /OE/angstrom-dev/work/armv7a-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/uhd-git-r3.1/git/host/lib/transport/convert_types_impl.hpp:154: error: cannot convert 'const float*' to 'const float32_t*' for argument '1' to '__builtin_neon_sf __vector__ vld1q_f32(const float32_t*)'
  1145. [19:17:44] <_av500_> aargh, intrinsics
  1146. [19:17:58] <Crofton|work> hmm
  1147. [19:18:17] <Crofton|work> crap that is on 2008 I bet
  1148. [19:18:28] <Crofton|work> mru looked at the generated code
  1149. [19:18:37] <koen> Crofton|work: yes, 2008
  1150. [19:18:42] <Crofton|work> he was only willing to bet he could do 3 times better
  1151. [19:18:58] <_av500_> Crofton|work: hes like scotty wrt to that
  1152. [19:19:06] <Crofton|work> yeah
  1153. [19:19:08] <Crofton|work> he told me so
  1154. [19:19:13] <Crofton|work> hmmm
  1155. [19:19:20] <Crofton|work> hmm
  1156. [19:19:27] <Crofton|work> something is borked
  1157. [19:19:43] <Crofton|work> because the test looks for the intrinsices headr
  1158. [19:20:13] <Crofton|work> can I put this on my todo list?
  1159. [19:22:50] <Crofton|work> koen, why does 4.3 have arm_neon.h
  1160. [19:24:15] <Crofton|work> the code assumes intrinsics if that header is present
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  1162. [19:31:52] <koen> Crofton|work: I guess the header is a bad check
  1163. [19:33:23] * Crofton|work is annoyed
  1164. [19:33:37] <Crofton|work> I wonder what is in it for the non-intrinsic case
  1165. [19:33:52] <Crofton|work> any chance you could email me that header from a 2008 build?
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  1167. [19:35:40] <koen> sure
  1168. [19:35:54] <Crofton|work> thanks
  1169. [19:36:20] <Crofton|work> I'm trying to get a kernel recipe based on sakomans 2.6.35 branch and patches for the driver together
  1170. [19:36:34] <Crofton|work> rebase is my friend ....
  1171. [19:36:47] <Crofton|work> and cherry-pick
  1172. [19:37:24] <koen> Crofton|work: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/angstrom/arm_neon.h
  1173. [19:39:21] <Crofton|work> this files presence in compilers that do not support the instruction set must be a bug ....
  1174. [19:39:31] <koen> welcome to gcc
  1175. [19:39:55] <Crofton|work> do yu have 4.3 and 4.5 in that work dir?
  1176. [19:40:08] <Crofton|work> any chance it was installed from 4.5?
  1177. [19:40:10] <koen> Crofton|work: http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-4.3.3/gcc/ARM-NEON-Intrinsics.html#ARM-NEON-Intrinsics
  1178. [19:40:20] <koen> no, only 4.3.3 installed
  1179. [19:41:42] <koen> Crofton|work: the diff against the 4.5.2 version: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/angstrom/headers.diff
  1180. [19:43:28] <Crofton|work> hmm
  1181. [19:43:30] <Crofton|work> ok
  1182. [19:43:35] <Crofton|work> I sort of see the problem
  1183. [19:43:44] <Crofton|work> there is a change in typedefinf
  1184. [19:45:12] <Crofton|work> are those links going to be good for a week or so?
  1185. [19:45:20] <Crofton|work> I need to make a bug report to fix this
  1186. [19:45:22] <koen> sure
  1187. [19:45:33] <koen> I'll forget I put the files there
  1188. [19:45:35] <Crofton|work> thanks, it saves me copying them
  1189. [19:45:39] <koen> and then they'll be good for years :)
  1190. [19:45:41] <Crofton|work> I know, I just wanted to ask
  1191. [19:47:32] * koen puts on some black fatigues and prepares to steal the cross localegen from poky
  1192. [19:52:08] <Crofton|work> ok, it is in the Ettus bug tracker for me to look at after I finish the shipping image
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  1198. [20:09:24] <Dan__> hey, rcn-ee are you here?
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  1206. [20:30:13] <koen> Crofton|work: | trellis.i:45: Error: Unable to find 'trellis_generated.i'| make[5]: *** [.deps/trellis-generate-stamp] Error 1|
  1207. [20:30:16] <koen> Crofton|work: that's on 2010
  1208. [20:36:28] <Crofton|work> hmm
  1209. [20:36:39] <Crofton|work> did I just push some stuff?
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  1211. [20:36:54] <Crofton|work> I swear everything I push should build on 2010 :)
  1212. [20:37:12] <Crofton|work> sane kernel recipe is going now
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  1214. [20:37:40] <prpplague> Crofton|work: hey bud
  1215. [20:37:45] <Crofton|work> hey
  1216. [20:37:47] <Crofton|work> how are you
  1217. [20:37:53] * prpplague is alive
  1218. [20:37:58] <prpplague> totally swamped with work though
  1219. [20:38:09] <Crofton|work> heh
  1220. [20:38:21] <Crofton|work> yeah, trying to finish off an image that needs to ship
  1221. [20:38:25] <prpplague> Crofton|work: sorry we didn't have more time to hang out there at ELF
  1222. [20:39:24] <Crofton|work> yeah
  1223. [20:39:27] <Crofton|work> it was crazy
  1224. [20:40:52] <prpplague> Crofton|work: i was totally taken aback by the number of folks who showed up for my presentation
  1225. [20:41:11] <prpplague> Crofton|work: trying to decide if i want to submit for ELC in april
  1226. [20:41:13] <Crofton|work> heh
  1227. [20:41:17] <Crofton|work> do it
  1228. [20:41:37] <koen> yeah
  1229. [20:41:42] <koen> I need to submit something as well
  1230. [20:41:48] <koen> so we can go out for beers together
  1231. [20:42:03] <koen> or, if robi is attending, wodka martinis
  1232. [20:42:11] <Crofton|work> koen, if I get a public repo for the usrp e100 overlay, can you use the kernel and machine conf from there for feeds?
  1233. [20:42:21] <koen> I think so
  1234. [20:42:46] <Crofton|work> it shuold work
  1235. [20:42:59] <prpplague> hmm, submissions are still open for fosdem
  1236. [20:43:06] <koen> that as well
  1237. [20:43:08] <Crofton|work> and it would be nice not to contribute to kernel recipe proliferation in recipes/linux
  1238. [20:43:24] <koen> but I have apparently been volunteered as wall wrangler at fosdem
  1239. [20:43:31] <Crofton|work> awesome
  1240. [20:43:35] <koen> Crofton|work: do it as a layer
  1241. [20:43:42] <koen> </yoctomode>
  1242. [20:43:43] <Crofton|work> it is
  1243. [20:44:13] <Crofton|work> BBLAYERS = "${HOME}/oe/openembedded ${HOME}/oe/ettus-oe"
  1244. [20:44:13] <Crofton|work> BBPATH = "${HOME}/oe"
  1245. [20:44:24] <Crofton|work> in conf/bblayers.conf
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  1250. [20:45:25] <koen> Crofton|work: btw, poky manual has been relicensed, so we can steal from it now
  1251. [20:45:57] <prpplague> koen: wall wrangler?
  1252. [20:46:11] <Crofton|work> I assume he means video wall
  1253. [20:46:25] <koen> yep
  1254. [20:46:31] <prpplague> koen: ahh slave to the wall
  1255. [20:46:32] <Crofton|work> any upgrades
  1256. [20:47:32] * prpplague wonders if TI will pay for trip to fosdem
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  1261. [20:53:03] <koen> it looks like they be paying for mine, but I'm close by
  1262. [20:54:16] <Crofton|work> can you get more variety of videos?
  1263. [20:54:33] <koen> I think so
  1264. [20:54:39] <koen> mru and av500 should be around as well
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  1266. [20:59:27] <_av500_> yep
  1267. [21:00:05] <_av500_> koen: lets build a tower of power as well
  1268. [21:01:00] <koen> and show distccmon on the beast?
  1269. [21:02:06] <_av500_> i refuse to have my bbs run gcc
  1270. [21:04:08] <aholler> build a cloud and let them do something useless
  1271. [21:04:29] <koen> a mushroom cloud of magic smoke
  1272. [21:05:00] <aholler> like searching for aliens, cracking passwords ...
  1273. [21:07:20] <aholler> or hadop, for those people who are thinking they need such ;)
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  1275. [21:17:25] <arne_> I get tearing when displaying video with Xv on the Beagle-xM. Is this a known issue?
  1276. [21:19:38] <mru> xv on beagle is dreadfully slow regardless
  1277. [21:19:46] <mru> someone ought to do something about it
  1278. [21:23:19] <arne_> I did not notice it is slow
  1279. [21:23:33] <arne_> it just shows tearing :'(
  1280. [21:25:03] <mru> believe me, it is slow
  1281. [21:25:19] <mru> and buggy
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  1283. [21:27:31] <aholler> hmm, southampton, I once stayed there for two weeks. nice city
  1284. [21:27:55] <mru> not really
  1285. [21:28:07] <mru> the germans saw to that
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  1287. [21:28:34] <aholler> a bit boring, but for making holidays i found it nice.
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  1289. [21:29:30] <mru> holidays in southampton? you've got to be kidding
  1290. [21:29:48] <mru> unless you enjoy watching the ships dock
  1291. [21:30:12] <UIdesigner> does anyone know if the beagleboard xm can support a display resolution of 1280x800
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  1295. [21:30:26] <mru> UIdesigner: yes, it can
  1296. [21:31:28] <UIdesigner> thanks mru, do you know if you need specific video drivers ?
  1297. [21:32:11] <aholler> mru: i visited a girlfriend which was there as au pair. but that was twenty years ago ;)
  1298. [21:32:13] <mru> it's just another set of timing parameters
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  1300. [21:32:26] <mru> aholler: girls change everything
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  1302. [21:33:51] <aholler> maybe I've had pink eyeglasses ;)
  1303. [21:37:10] <mru> it's a reasonable place to live though
  1304. [21:37:52] * XorA|gone is now known as XorA
  1305. [21:39:07] <aholler> I remember standing at the beach with an angle of 45?? watching windsurfboards flying around ;)
  1306. [21:40:50] <mru> there are no beaches in southampton, you must've been somewhere else
  1307. [21:42:08] <mru> and what had the 45?? angle? the water, the beach, or you?
  1308. [21:42:19] <aholler> oh, sorry, yes, I was at chichester.
  1309. [21:42:38] <aholler> I had the 45??, heavy wheater.
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  1312. [21:44:52] <aholler> hmm, I assume confusing southampton and chichester isn't that nice, sorry ;)
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  1317. [21:49:46] <emeb> they're not _that_ far apart...
  1318. [21:49:51] <aholler> hmm, but looking at at the maps, that is just some dozen km away from southampton, so that explains it.
  1319. [21:50:40] * emeb has only been as close as Salisbury tho
  1320. [21:50:57] <mru> emeb: portsmouth is even closer, and confusing that with southampton would be nothing short of insulting
  1321. [21:51:23] <mru> salisbury is a windy place
  1322. [21:51:34] <emeb> not so much a matter of physical distance I suppose...
  1323. [21:52:33] <emeb> Windy, eh? Seemed pretty ordinary weather when I was there - early July.
  1324. [21:52:49] <mru> maybe you got lucky
  1325. [21:52:55] <mru> it's often windy out there on the plains
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  1327. [21:56:31] <jonpry> hey emeb
  1328. [21:57:03] <jonpry> i've been working on a mig based lpddr controller :p
  1329. [21:57:30] <emeb> jonpry: I was going to ask how the ddr was working on your FPGA
  1330. [21:57:41] <_av500_> a real russian MIG?
  1331. [21:57:46] <jonpry> so i got it to work in sim
  1332. [21:58:11] <emeb> _av500_: Xilinx's Memory Interface Generator
  1333. [21:58:24] <emeb> jonpry: good start
  1334. [21:58:26] <jonpry> and i think it might be working in hardware. the bytes i read back are not the same, but they look the same on the scope
  1335. [21:58:47] <emeb> errr...
  1336. [21:59:15] <jonpry> i'm guessing this whole dqs delay contraption is not working right
  1337. [21:59:23] <mru> _av500_: maybe he means mig welding
  1338. [21:59:53] <jonpry> write only memory is the best kind :p
  1339. [22:00:02] <mru> for that unbeatable 32mm process
  1340. [22:00:18] <emeb> no problems with electromigration...
  1341. [22:01:21] <emeb> jonpry: I want to try a ddr interface sometime - I've got a Digilent Nexsys 2 with some DRAM on it for a start.
  1342. [22:01:37] <jonpry> just hydrogen enbrittlement
  1343. [22:01:49] <jonpry> nexys2 has psram
  1344. [22:01:54] <jonpry> i have one :p
  1345. [22:02:30] <arne_> is there another way to display YUV buffers directly than with Xv?
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  1349. [22:03:48] <emeb> oh - so completely different interface...
  1350. [22:03:52] <_av500_> hexdump
  1351. [22:03:52] <jonpry> emeb: there is an OPB based controller for it that works reasonably well. eventually i beat it into shape so it would hook up to a wishbone bus and support burst read and write.
  1352. [22:04:12] <mru> arne_: fbdev and v4l
  1353. [22:04:38] <mru> see omapfbplay for examples of all three methods
  1354. [22:04:53] <jonpry> its amazing how little bandwidth you can get from x16 cellular ram
  1355. [22:05:23] <mru> cellular ram, is that a fancy name for a brain?
  1356. [22:05:40] <mru> some of those do seem severly limited indeed
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  1358. [22:07:19] <jonpry> somehow it worked out so that i could read a 32bit word every 8 cycles or so, @50mhz
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  1362. [22:09:25] <arne_> mru: thanks
  1363. [22:10:00] <emeb> ref manual quotes 70ns access time for asynch
  1364. [22:11:31] <jonpry> that sounds right. so like 4 cycles plus wishbone initiate,terminate blah
  1365. [22:12:05] <emeb> yep - 'cept the part is only 16-bit so you'd need 2 reads to get a 32-bit word.
  1366. [22:12:21] <jonpry> yeah, so 5 + 2
  1367. [22:12:47] <emeb> hmmm - not 2x5?
  1368. [22:13:08] <jonpry> no the OPB controller does 2 word burst
  1369. [22:13:11] <jonpry> to make x32
  1370. [22:13:18] <emeb> ah - better
  1371. [22:13:44] <jonpry> later i made it do 8x16
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  1373. [22:14:09] <emeb> funny that the datasheet for that part doesn't show up anywhere - not even at Micron's site.
  1374. [22:15:20] <jonpry> i'm wondering if the mig controller is not working right because i am running it too slow. 25mhz now, was 50 for awhile
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  1376. [22:15:51] <emeb> some of the DLLs have definite limits on frequency
  1377. [22:16:21] <jonpry> theres no dll in the ram, which would explain why the databus looks right
  1378. [22:16:45] <jonpry> and there is a dll in the mig design but only for generating a quadrature clock
  1379. [22:17:06] <jonpry> which seems to be fine at 25mhz
  1380. [22:17:32] <jonpry> but there is this whole dqs delay thing. which is kind of like a dll built out of LUT
  1381. [22:20:04] <emeb> can you tap the input data bus at the IOB and check it with chipscope ILA?
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  1388. [22:34:24] <jonpry> emeb: i don't have chipscope, but i don't think it will help. i made various deals that let me verify the data is no good at the iob. could be the memory is infact not working, or that the iob is not being clocked at the right time
  1389. [22:34:49] <emeb> bummer
  1390. [22:35:27] <emeb> I've always heard that it can be painful getting FPGAs to talk to DDR.
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  1392. [22:37:20] <prpplague> emeb: hey bud
  1393. [22:37:24] <prpplague> emeb: hows biz?
  1394. [22:37:35] <emeb> prpplague: howdy - things are good
  1395. [22:37:46] <emeb> prpplague: you?
  1396. [22:38:04] <prpplague> emeb: busier than a one legged man in a butt kicking contest
  1397. [22:39:06] <arne_> mru: how do I set different display drivers for omapfbplay?
  1398. [22:39:23] <_av500_> compile time
  1399. [22:39:42] <arne_> there is a parameter for that but I do not find a list of valid drivers
  1400. [22:40:05] <_av500_> use the src
  1401. [22:40:10] <arne_> I do
  1402. [22:41:17] <arne_> I might be too stupid or too tired but I do not find a list of valid drivers in the source
  1403. [22:42:41] <mru> they can all be compiled at once
  1404. [22:42:57] <_av500_> http://git.mansr.com/?p=omapfbplay;a=blob;f=Makefile;h=313549df8123e731972756f0d1fa0a880130d81e;hb=HEAD
  1405. [22:43:01] <_av500_> DRV-...
  1406. [22:43:44] <mru> it's Static Plugin Technology (tm)
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  1408. [22:51:53] <aholler> oh, that tm must have been borrowed from monkey island ;)
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  1410. [22:52:39] <_av500_> mru: it saves you REGISTER_FOO() macros...
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  1413. [22:55:52] <arne_> _av500_ and mru: thanks a lot
  1414. [22:56:27] <_av500_> i didnt do anything
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  1437. [23:56:16] <tharvey> does dm3730 ehci support FS/LS or just HS? I recall at least the driver only supports HS
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  1439. [23:56:26] <tharvey> the TRM reads like all are supported
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