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IRC Log for 2010-12-20

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[00:21:37] <GeniusGeeko> Hey guys
[00:22:03] <GeniusGeeko> I got a problem with my beagleboard
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[00:27:00] <GeniusGeeko> Anybody even here?
[00:28:40] <aholler> no
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[00:29:27] <GeniusGeeko> Heh, Nice. Nobody really even talks on here according to the history.
[00:29:59] <mru> that's not fair
[00:30:23] <mru> sure, there's a good deal of guessing (if professional)
[00:30:36] <mru> but I still think that qualifies as talking
[00:31:04] <GeniusGeeko> eh, there are just a bunch of long hours of silence.
[00:31:27] <mru> and you can tell that after being here for all of 10 minutes?
[00:31:29] <GeniusGeeko> Can anybody help me with my problem with the problem I have with the BeagleBoard.
[00:31:44] <mru> nope, our crystal balls are all fogged up
[00:31:50] <GeniusGeeko> Oh no, you can search through the history. http://www.beagleboard.org/irclogs
[00:32:39] <GeniusGeeko> Well, I probably just happened to click on the not so busy days.
[00:33:15] <mru> anyway, the problem with your problem is that you're not telling us what it is
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[00:34:49] <GeniusGeeko> Alright, I have my beagleboard all hooked up to my computers serial port. I go into HyperTerminal/Tera Term and all I get is a whole bunch of random junk.
[00:35:06] <mru> wrong settings
[00:35:16] <GeniusGeeko> I have checked all the setting in both Terminal Emulators but both come up with the same thing-
[00:36:23] <GeniusGeeko> BAUD Rate - 115200, Data - 8 bit, Parity- none, Stop - 1bit, FC - none
[00:36:41] <mru> looks good
[00:36:54] <mru> so what's the junk you're getting?
[00:37:13] <mru> and which beagle?
[00:37:22] <aholler> try pressing return 5 to 10 times pausing a second inbetween
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[00:37:46] <GeniusGeeko> give me sec to let me get the log
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[00:38:03] <mru> sd card plugged in?
[00:38:07] <GeniusGeeko> ??{?????????????????????????+??????????????lv????o
[00:38:22] <GeniusGeeko> Revision C4
[00:38:54] <GeniusGeeko> I do not have a SD Card plugged in because I want to access U-boot before I create the linux partitions.
[00:39:06] <djlewis> yea! there is life here after alll :)
[00:39:20] <GeniusGeeko> I had the same feeling djlewis
[00:39:31] <mru> djlewis: you may be old, but you're not dead (yet)
[00:40:19] <djlewis> hehee
[00:40:26] <aholler> revision c4 looks really like a whole bunch of random junk ;)
[00:40:46] <mru> aholler: what's that supposed to mean?
[00:41:09] <aholler> don't know, maybe the hostname ;)
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[00:41:29] <ds2> check your cable
[00:41:46] <mru> aholler: oh, you're making professional guesses
[00:42:20] <GeniusGeeko> I have the rx/tx/gnd going to a rs232->ttl converter
[00:42:21] <aholler> I would guess windows is the problem. serial without flow control isn't the kind of thing windows really likes
[00:42:23] <mru> yeah, that looks a lot like bad cable
[00:42:35] <mru> ttl converter?
[00:42:37] <mru> wtf for?
[00:42:51] <mru> aholler: I've never had problems with that
[00:42:56] <mru> (in windows)
[00:43:11] <mru> I've had every other conceivable serial problem though
[00:43:37] <GeniusGeeko> I just use them
[00:43:43] <mru> use how?
[00:43:45] <mru> GeniusGeeko: connect the beagle directly to the PC
[00:43:48] <mru> no converters
[00:44:03] <GeniusGeeko> I tried that after the converter failed
[00:44:05] <GeniusGeeko> I got nothing
[00:44:11] <GeniusGeeko> Zip
[00:44:25] <mru> I'd say that's a step in the right direction
[00:44:29] <ds2> verify the pinout of your cable.
[00:44:46] <GeniusGeeko> I made the cable
[00:44:54] <ds2> refer to the appropriate section of the SRM and run the requested diagnostic procedure.
[00:44:55] <mru> then verify it twice
[00:44:58] <aholler> exchange 2 and 3 ;)
[00:45:08] <GeniusGeeko> I have more around 100 times
[00:45:16] <ds2> failing that, pop it on a scope or LA
[00:45:18] <GeniusGeeko> I spent pretty much all last night working with it
[00:45:28] <mru> obviously you did something wrong
[00:46:34] <ds2> try a prebuilt cable that is known to work
[00:47:01] <GeniusGeeko> I don't have time to wait for a prebuilt cable
[00:47:18] <mru> then build one properly
[00:47:26] <ds2> you have time to sit around here talking so...
[00:47:30] <mru> it's 3 wires, how hard can it be?
[00:47:32] <GeniusGeeko> pins: 1>1, 2>3, 3>2, 4>4, so forth
[00:47:41] <aholler> yo only need 3 wires. and the only problem could be to exchange 2 and 3
[00:47:50] <GeniusGeeko> I hooked all pins after I was just annoyed as hell
[00:47:56] <aholler> the third one is gnd
[00:48:01] <ds2> well, that's 6 possible cables using just 3 wires ;)
[00:48:14] <mru> ds2: much more actually
[00:48:18] <ds2> most of us only have 5 fingers so it will indeed be a challenge
[00:48:32] <aholler> hmm, I have 10 ;)
[00:48:32] <mru> 3 wires, 9 pins one end, 10 on the other
[00:48:47] <ds2> fair enough
[00:49:12] <ds2> too tired to do math
[00:49:45] <GeniusGeeko> ok, but its 2>3 3>2 and 5>5 I have hooked it up
[00:51:27] <mru> probably counting pins in the wrong order then
[00:51:57] <ds2> use clip leads, check it then make the cable
[00:51:58] <GeniusGeeko> 1 2
[00:52:00] <GeniusGeeko> 3 4
[00:52:02] <GeniusGeeko> 5 6
[00:52:04] <ds2> start with just the output pairs
[00:52:04] <GeniusGeeko> 7 8
[00:52:10] <GeniusGeeko> 9 10
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[00:55:19] <GeniusGeeko> Ehh.. I'll go grab my alligator clips..
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[01:03:39] <ac_> Hello
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[01:06:20] <ac_> I used pre-built Android image for Beagleboard-xM. I can see messgae from RS232 debug port, but I can't see any thing shown on the screen.
[01:07:24] <ac_> Do you have the same problem?
[01:09:23] <djlewis> what screen (connection), what cabletype?
[01:10:08] <ac_> I used HDMI cable. The HDMI cable connected to TV's HDMI port.
[01:10:36] <djlewis> oh, tv
[01:11:00] <aholler> the driver is unable to detect the capabilities of your tv, you have to set the resolution by yourself
[01:11:07] <djlewis> so you may be getting a signal to the tv which it does not understand.
[01:12:18] <ac_> If I used the MicroSD card shipped with board, I can see the boot up message shown on the TV screen. So the cable and HDMI port of the board are good.
[01:12:51] <djlewis> i dont think the shipped sd has a gui
[01:13:20] <ac_> Yes, you are right. But I can see the boot up message shown on TV.
[01:13:56] <djlewis> so you see during boot but not when fully booted?
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[01:14:24] <djlewis> sounds like there is something at the end that changes video mode.
[01:15:45] <ac_> Texas Instruments X-Loader 1.47 (Oct 23 2010 - 17:44:36) Unsupported Chip! Beagle xM Rev A Starting X-loader on MMC Reading boot sector
[01:16:25] <aholler> you see that on the tv?
[01:17:01] <ac_> I tried to post the boot up message do you know how to post the boot up message correctly?
[01:17:19] <aholler> use something like fpaste.org
[01:17:26] <ac_> No, there is no meesage on TV.
[01:17:32] <djlewis> pastebin
[01:17:32] <aholler> and just post the url here
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[01:17:53] <djlewis> ac_: you keep telling us you see pre boot on tv
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[01:20:18] <ac_> If using shipped SD card, I can see message on TV. But if I used TI's prebuilt image, I can not see any thing on TV.
[01:20:58] <ac_> Texas Instruments X-Loader 1.47 (Oct 23 2010 - 17:44:36) Unsupported Chip! Beagle xM Rev A Starting X-loader on MMC Reading boot sector
[01:22:23] <ds2> PASTEBIN!
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[01:26:06] <GeniusGeeko> Ok good news. I finally got something from the beagleboard
[01:26:27] <GeniusGeeko> Unfortunately now its endlessly reseting
[01:26:33] <ac_> Could you advise how to do pastebin?
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[01:33:11] <mru> GeniusGeeko: how are you powering it?
[01:34:08] <GeniusGeeko> Usb
[01:34:27] <mru> try a 5V PSU
[01:35:00] <ds2> power via barrel or power via mini AB?
[01:35:18] <GeniusGeeko> Dang, I probably don't got a 5v Wall Wart
[01:35:30] <mru> use one from a usb hub
[01:35:33] <mru> they usually fit
[01:36:13] <GeniusGeeko> The hub I got doesn't got a barrel
[01:36:33] <GeniusGeeko> I swear I just don't have the stuff I need
[01:36:46] <mru> do you have a powered hub?
[01:36:55] <GeniusGeeko> Wait, I got a y-usb cord
[01:36:56] <mru> try connecting the beagle to that
[01:37:02] <mru> maybe it provides more power than the pc
[01:37:07] <GeniusGeeko> 2 usb to 1
[01:37:12] <mru> nasty things
[01:37:36] <mru> at what point does it reset?
[01:37:52] <ds2> are you feeding it into the barrel connector or the mini AB?
[01:38:18] <GeniusGeeko> After "Board Revision: C4"
[01:38:26] <GeniusGeeko> Mini AB
[01:38:27] <mru> ds2: ab obviously, since he said he doesn't have a matching barrel plug psu
[01:38:46] <ds2> mru: well, some folks sell a USB to barrel cable
[01:39:01] <mru> ds2: such people should be shot on sight
[01:39:06] <ds2> GeniusGeeko: do you have anything connected on the expansion bus, HDMI connector or the other USB connector?
[01:39:25] <mru> GeniusGeeko: do you get the u-boot banner?
[01:39:29] <GeniusGeeko> I have a S-video
[01:39:40] <GeniusGeeko> mru: yes
[01:39:44] <ds2> disconnect the S-Video too
[01:39:55] <ds2> it should let you boot into u-boot
[01:40:14] <mru> almost certainly inadequate power
[01:40:25] <mru> I don't know any other reason for it to reset there
[01:40:40] <GeniusGeeko> I'll try unhooking it
[01:40:47] <mru> if u-boot goes wrong somehow, it usually hangs rather than resetting
[01:40:49] <GeniusGeeko> *unplugging
[01:41:20] <mru> anyway, I'm going to be unconscious and hallucinate for a while
[01:42:09] <djlewis> mru: too bad we cant bring those pretties in our dreams back to our world for a while ;)
[01:43:11] <GeniusGeeko> ok, now i'm not getting anything at all
[01:46:09] <djlewis> he was trying to get you to unhook all non essential items from the board to reduce power draw.
[01:46:30] <djlewis> essential would be power and serial console
[01:46:53] <GeniusGeeko> Which I got, but now I"m not getting anything in a serial console
[01:47:09] <djlewis> you changed your power?
[01:47:27] <GeniusGeeko> its still usb
[01:48:23] <djlewis> if you had serial console before using same power then you changed something relevant
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[01:49:32] <GeniusGeeko> I only unplugged the s-video
[01:50:35] <djlewis> would'nt effect it
[01:51:19] <GeniusGeeko> I know, I'll spend a little more time troubleshooting it
[01:53:20] <GeniusGeeko> Ok, nothing is hooked up to it. The 2 LED's won't light up anymore
[01:54:54] <djlewis> so your usb power is missing
[01:56:16] <GeniusGeeko> I do not have a 5v barrel plug or anything similar either
[01:57:35] <djlewis> some cell phones and like mru mentioned usb hubs are similar.
[01:57:53] <djlewis> but it cant be more than 5vdc OR BEAGLEBOARD WILL FRY.
[01:58:10] <ds2> maybe your USB port died (or shut off)?
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[01:59:35] <GeniusGeeko> The power LED is still up
[02:01:27] <djlewis> the other led's may not do anything without a program to turn them on
[02:01:39] <djlewis> they are user led's
[02:02:07] <djlewis> often one is set to blink a variable heartbeat rate when booting the kernel
[02:02:11] <djlewis> then after,.
[02:02:36] <djlewis> the busier the cpu the faster the beat, the way I read it.
[02:03:22] <djlewis> and how did someone over tighten this mirror adjuster by hand and squash a acorn nut?
[02:07:14] <GeniusGeeko> They have came up before
[02:09:52] <djlewis> yeah, i get four led's on my revC2 board without a sd bi\ooting from nand
[02:10:18] <djlewis> if your board does not boot from nand or the sd then perhaps no led but power
[02:11:00] <GeniusGeeko> it boots off the nand
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[02:48:39] <GeniusGeekoq> Alright got my serial to work right and consistant
[02:49:40] <GeniusGeekoq> but now I get an error saying "*** Warning - Bad CRC or NAND, using default enviroment"
[02:53:46] <djlewis> yup, progress
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[02:58:52] <ds2> that's normal, that error can be safely ignored for most purposes unless you want to do things in the conventional way
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[03:01:09] <GeniusGeeko> Sorry I missed what you siad
[03:01:11] <GeniusGeeko> said
[03:01:35] <djlewis> (08:58:55 PM) ds2: that's normal, that error can be safely ignored for most purposes unless you want to do things in the conventional way
[03:03:11] <GeniusGeeko> Well, I don't see a U-boot countdown
[03:03:30] <djlewis> then its not loading u-boot.
[03:04:10] <GeniusGeeko> Great.. oh btw it still resets with different power source
[03:05:11] <djlewis> you are saying it resets on whatever power source you use?
[03:05:55] <GeniusGeeko> Well, I don't have a barrel but the ones I have ya
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[03:06:27] <djlewis> get that 5vDC walwart before giving up
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[03:07:04] <djlewis> usb only puts out up to 500mA on a good day. if a device requests the power.
[03:07:18] <djlewis> Dont know if beagleboard can specify power needs thru usb
[03:07:33] <GeniusGeeko> It should but it isn't
[03:07:59] <GeniusGeeko> oh is there a way to make t communicate its serial through USB now?
[03:08:13] <djlewis> usually kernels will start to boot off usb power.
[03:08:24] <djlewis> then erratic behaviour occurs
[03:08:40] <djlewis> I dont know.
[03:08:42] <GeniusGeeko> I'll try some more
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[03:19:48] <djlewis> ooh, smores sound good
[03:20:00] <djlewis> where is my bag o candy?
[03:20:18] <GeniusGeeko> lol
[03:20:40] <ggreer> so I booted the demo microsd card for my xm. I can ssh to it but I can't get the s-video or hdmi to output anything
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[03:21:00] <ggreer> and /sys/class/display_control doesn't exist
[03:21:13] <ggreer> and /sys/class/display is empty
[03:21:36] <GeniusGeeko> What do I need to do to get my U-boot to work again
[03:22:03] <ggreer> and I don't see anything suspicious in dmesg
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[03:30:32] <GeniusGeeko> ok, now I think I brinked my beagle
[03:33:03] <djlewis> did you apply 12vDC?
[03:33:54] <GeniusGeeko> Nope
[03:34:01] <GeniusGeeko> I am only using 5v for sure
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[03:41:30] <djlewis> time to solder some headers on this little beastie
[03:42:20] <GeniusGeeko> Uboot isn't loading thought
[03:42:23] <GeniusGeeko> though*
[03:42:26] <GeniusGeeko> thats the problem
[03:42:49] <djlewis> baby steps
[03:43:15] <GeniusGeeko> Trying to figure out whats next
[03:43:33] <cwillu> GeneralStupid, make a properly formatted sd card with mlo and uboot on it, and you'll be fine
[03:44:19] <GeniusGeeko> cwillu: haha, I tried. the Uboot isn't counting down!
[03:44:22] * cwillu stabs GeneralStupid with a stick, an dpokes GeniusGeeko instead
[03:44:34] <cwillu> GeneralStupid, then it's not a properly formatted sd card :p
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[03:45:05] <GeniusGeeko> I tested it on my GadgetPC its fine
[03:45:14] <cwillu> obviously not, if it's not booting :p
[03:45:31] <cwillu> if you haven't physically broken the hardware, you haven't bricked it
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[03:49:19] <GeniusGeeko> Its not loading the U-boot
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[03:49:31] <GeniusGeeko> no matter what your supposed to see a uboot countdown
[03:49:34] <GeniusGeeko> i'm not seeeing that
[03:49:38] <cwillu> no, not no matter what
[03:50:16] <GeniusGeeko> well, it resets directly after "Err: serial"
[03:50:21] <GeniusGeeko> there isn't even time for it to read
[03:50:36] <cwillu> you've got a serial connection to it?
[03:50:57] <GeniusGeeko> Yea.
[03:51:14] <GeniusGeeko> Oh and now in the serial i'm getting diamonds and encryptions for no reason
[03:51:43] <cwillu> probably just on the wrong serial settings then; 115200 baud, 8bits, no parity
[03:52:13] <GeniusGeeko> Got it
[03:52:31] <cwillu> can you copy what you're seeing to a pastebin and post the link here?
[03:52:37] <GeniusGeeko> It was working just a min ago. Nephew pressed the reset button now its getting that
[03:53:30] <cwillu> what was it doing when it was reset?
[03:53:48] <cwillu> some (most?) sd cards take sudden power loss very badly
[03:53:56] <cwillu> (i.e., if they were busy writing at the time)
[03:54:22] <cwillu> also, without any sd card in the device at all, you don't get a uboot prompt?
[03:56:05] <GeniusGeeko> ok no sd card it resets and yes it resets without uboot prompt without an sdcard
[03:56:26] <cwillu> you're using a serial onto the 10-pin header on the top of the board?
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[03:57:18] <GeniusGeeko> yes
[03:57:28] <GeniusGeeko> oh and I fixed the encryption
[03:57:33] <cwillu> and you don't get any... encryption?
[03:57:40] <GeniusGeeko> the serial console needed to be reset
[03:58:01] <GeniusGeeko> Fixed the encryption but I'll upload what I get in the console now
[03:58:05] <cwillu> "encryption"?
[03:58:19] <cwillu> by which you mean "bad serial setting"? :p
[03:58:27] <cwillu> yes, please
[03:59:28] <GeniusGeeko> no, it was the console got overloaded. I used the same profile settings
[03:59:40] <cwillu> what are you using for a serial terminal?
[03:59:50] <GeniusGeeko> Tera Term
[03:59:59] <GeniusGeeko> HyperTerminal ran out of trial days
[04:00:12] <cwillu> ah, you're stuck on windows
[04:00:14] <cwillu> poor soul
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[04:01:30] <GeniusGeeko> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=nbw61v9w
[04:01:36] <GeniusGeeko> Oh, its not on my computer
[04:01:45] <GeniusGeeko> my computer doesn't have a serial connection
[04:01:48] <cwillu> yeah, uboot is loading fine
[04:02:04] <cwillu> I know that because it says "U-Boot 2009.11-rc1-00601-g3aa4b51 (Jan 05 2010 - 20:56:38)" :)
[04:02:22] <GeniusGeeko> why isn't it giving me the countdown?
[04:02:47] <GeniusGeeko> without it I can't change the environment settings
[04:03:17] <cwillu> well, because it's not configured to, presumably because of a setting change you made, or because the uboot version on there has it disabled, or possibly because it's getting noise on the serial line and interpreting that as an immediate keystroke (although I'd expect the uboot prompt then)
[04:04:01] <GeniusGeeko> well I'm remaking the SD card to double check
[04:04:22] <cwillu> given an appropriate u-boot on the sd card, it'll read from a script that you can make on the sd card, which should allow you to override the environment
[04:04:42] <cwillu> (you're aware of the "user" button right?)
[04:04:48] <cwillu> (what it does, etc?)
[04:04:48] <GeniusGeeko> yea I am
[04:04:53] <GeniusGeeko> I read on it
[04:06:08] <GeniusGeeko> What do I need to do to get the new U-boot on it?
[04:06:10] <cwillu> in the worst case, you can compile a version of u-boot that will simply ignore what's in nand; I had to do this once because of some silly things I stuck in the environment (which you probably didn't do by accident)
[04:06:26] <cwillu> copy an appropriate u-boot.bin to the drive
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[04:06:56] <djlewis> ok, i'm pulling out the o-scope
[04:07:22] <GeniusGeeko> is that it?
[04:07:24] <cwillu> it's dead, dj
[04:07:30] <cwillu> GeniusGeeko, pretty much
[04:07:37] <hgs> how do i get to know the latest Angstrom stable DISTRO release?
[04:07:49] <GeniusGeeko> what formatting do I need the sdcard?
[04:07:53] <cwillu> GeniusGeeko, I'm assuming then that you _haven't_ actually made a properly formatted sd card before then :p
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[04:08:42] <GeniusGeeko> I have but the GadgetPC might need a different formatting than the BB
[04:08:57] <cwillu> that would be a good default assumption
[04:09:28] <cwillu> you can't apply instructions from one dev-board to another and have any guarantee that it'll all work
[04:09:32] <cwillu> they simply vary too much
[04:09:44] <GeniusGeeko> I was thinking it was the same because of the U-boot was the same
[04:10:05] <cwillu> what loads u-boot is different though
[04:10:47] <GeniusGeeko> would this tutorial work for the uboot? http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardNAND
[04:12:11] <cwillu> that's not directly related; it has some relevant material, but that page is really about getting the whole system running without any sd card at all
[04:12:52] <GeniusGeeko> Well, could I just ignore the u-boot countdown?
[04:13:01] <cwillu> GeniusGeeko, I believe the "Beagle Board Setup for MMC booting" section of http://code.google.com/p/beagleboard/wiki/BeagleBootHwSetup is what you need
[04:13:03] <GeniusGeeko> and get to booting of linux right away
[04:14:07] <cwillu> GeniusGeeko, I think a couple distros now have ready-made images that you just write to an sd card, which should boot a beagle
[04:14:33] <hgs> or how do i find the latest stable angstrom DISTRO release "version number" ie for example DISTRO = "Angstrom-2010.1" ??
[04:14:37] <cwillu> it doesn't sound like you're terribly interested in how all of this actually works (i.e., to do your own stuff)
[04:15:02] <GeniusGeeko> I'm actually in the inpatient stage of my project
[04:15:51] <cwillu> hmm
[04:15:54] <cwillu> that's a tricky phase to get out of
[04:16:02] <GeniusGeeko> I'm sure you have been there many times
[04:16:48] <cwillu> it's tricky to get out of because the only way to get out of it is to slow down and re-read the relevant documentation :p
[04:16:56] <cwillu> which you're not prone to do when you're impatient
[04:17:47] <GeniusGeeko> I'll probably get to it when I actually get it running.
[04:17:56] <GeniusGeeko> Thats what usually happens
[04:36:06] <djlewis> excellent :P two programs written by ti for the launchpad dont work.
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[04:36:53] <djlewis> i'll take this up another time
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[05:04:44] <GeniusGeeko> Alright, flashing the u-boot but when I press the user button it doesn't boot off the MMC
[05:19:22] <cwillu> "flashing"?
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[05:19:33] <cwillu> if you mean writing the sd card, that's not really flashing
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[09:04:21] <ds2> gm
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[10:00:12] <tasslehoff> is there a usb-ethernet adapter that's known to work well with the Beagle?
[10:03:56] <_koen_> the apple one works well
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[10:06:40] <tasslehoff> _koen_: cool, I was just about to ask about that very one :)
[10:07:05] <_koen_> it's relatively expensive, but it's sturdy and works :)
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[10:27:06] <mru> most usb-eth adapters work
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[11:47:30] <hitlin37> i made my own rowboat image from source..but when booting,it goes in a loop of loading kernel...and nothing goes beyond
[11:47:52] <av500> maybe you did something wrong
[11:49:01] <cwillu_at_work> impossible
[11:49:52] <hitlin37> i did make TARGET_PRODUCT=beagleboard [OMAPES=5.x](im doing 5.x because i face same error as -->http://groups.google.com/group/rowboat/browse_thread/thread/afccfed65e1ffdb4)
[11:50:12] <hitlin37> earlier i was doing OMAPES=3.x
[11:51:05] <av500> maybe you should ask in #rowboat ?
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[11:51:51] <hitlin37> ok...i wil ask now...i asked once..but there were very few people in #rowboat
[11:52:54] <av500> hitlin37: that tells about about his "project", no?
[11:53:00] <av500> tried to mailing list?
[11:53:08] <hitlin37> nopes
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[13:19:20] <stepvut> hello
[13:21:05] <stepvut> anyone engaged in assembling boards to order?
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[13:45:35] <mor_tycia> hi, i'm searching about "PVRSRV_ERROR_TOOMANYBUFFERS" while doing sgx_flip_test and all the explanation i've found is to increase my framebuffer size and use just 2 instead of 3. I did it all and the erros continues to occur. Does anyone know another thing to do?
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[14:33:14] <djlewis> gm
[14:33:27] <av500> gm
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[14:34:47] <cwillu_at_work> those diodes where tvs diodes, and at least one of them was definitely bad (taking out of the circuit made everything start working, hurrah!)
[14:35:38] * cwillu_at_work Programmer inflates ego by doing basic electronics troubleshooting, story at 11
[14:38:35] <djlewis> cwillu_at_work: its good to hear you are making progress on the board
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[15:15:06] <cwillu_at_work> djlewis, hurrah: http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=495-3415-2-ND
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[15:18:11] <rsv> how can i output cvbs on evm on a tv
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[15:18:53] <av500> connect evm to tv
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[15:23:04] <rsv> av500: i have connected it to a tv
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[15:28:11] <rsv> found howto do it - its on the userguide
[15:28:14] <rsv> thanks
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[15:30:32] <rsv> hehe
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[15:53:14] <Nico_> Hi
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[15:54:37] <Nico_> Is there someone to give me some help with Meego and Beagle Board ?
[15:57:58] <Nico_> I looking for a touch screen that will be compatible with ARM linux
[15:58:17] <Nico_> Anyone ?
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[15:59:04] <av500> http://www.google.com/search?q=meego+beagle+board
[15:59:18] <aholler> depends on how you want to connect the touchscreen
[15:59:34] <Nico_> Hi aholler !
[16:00:00] <Nico_> Yes, I didn't precise but my budget is aroud 200 euros
[16:01:26] <Nico_> It doesn't matter
[16:02:05] <Nico_> the xenarc is too much expensive for me
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[16:02:36] <Nico_> http://www.lilliput.cn/669GL-70NP.html
[16:02:49] <aholler> displaylink devices (e.g. mimo) are working using usb. but you won't have hw-acceleration
[16:03:09] <Nico_> I don't know if this kind of screen works under ARM linux
[16:03:15] <syntx> hello, anyone here tried to work a leopard camera with the beagle board?
[16:04:29] <Nico_> Why there's no hw acceleration ?
[16:04:47] <Nico_> Is it because there's no driver ?
[16:07:10] <Nico_> I don't know a lot of things about the subject , sorry if my questions are not really good
[16:07:38] <av500> Nico_: a screen connected by usb is not fast for e.g. video playback
[16:09:05] <Nico_> ok, thanks av500
[16:09:28] <syntx> anyone can help me with a leopard 5M camera connected to a beagleboard?
[16:09:37] <Nico_> Is it more expansive in HDMI or VGA ?
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[16:11:58] <Nico_> I think that the lilliput is connected by HDMI, but I don't know if it's work with an ARM Linux
[16:12:28] <av500> Nico_: HDMI is neither arm nor x86
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[16:12:48] <aholler> Nico_: output will work, if the touch works depends on the used touch-controller. But linux supports most of them.
[16:13:38] <aholler> but they are usually connected through the serial, so you can't use the serial for debugging afterwards
[16:13:56] <av500> aholler: most are usb these days
[16:14:06] <aholler> ah, ok.
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[16:20:29] <Nico_> What kind of screen do you use ?
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[16:21:20] <xxiao> a dumb question, why is 3530 called OMAP3530 while 3730 called DM3730?
[16:21:32] <av500> xxiao: ask TI
[16:21:38] <av500> its marketing
[16:21:40] <xxiao> I thought OMAP and DM are different families
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[16:21:46] <av500> they are
[16:22:06] <xxiao> so 3730 is still 3530-enhanced instead of something different, correct?
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[16:22:23] <av500> yes
[16:22:35] <av500> 36xx is an evolution of 34xx
[16:22:49] <av500> its a shrink and some changes
[16:23:03] <xxiao> worked at big companies, i found their Marketing team always confuse the market, maybe to state that they're somebody can make a difference
[16:23:14] <av500> yeah
[16:23:19] <aholler> I assume DM* is used to get the automobile industry in. Maybe they won't like to use a cpu designed for mobiles ;)
[16:23:23] <av500> but DM37 is sold to catalog customers
[16:23:31] <av500> omap36xx is sold to phone people
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[16:23:48] <av500> so two different ti divisions
[16:24:09] <xxiao> yeah normally DM and OMAP should be in different team/department, really strange
[16:24:14] <xxiao> anyway
[16:25:08] <av500> they are in different deparments
[16:25:10] <woglinde> aholler the DM* works at -10??C?
[16:25:19] <av500> just using the same actual silicon
[16:25:31] <woglinde> otherwise the are not quite usefull for automobile
[16:25:43] <xxiao> chatted with some friends at shenzhen this weekend, samsung's ARM and freescale's ARM are both hot for ipad-clones, 3730/3503, no takers, i don't get it
[16:25:48] <aholler> woglinde: I don't know, but automobile needs -40??C no?
[16:25:50] <woglinde> hi av500 btw.
[16:25:56] <av500> hi woglinde
[16:26:00] <xxiao> for automible you have imx51 and imx53, both have automobile class version
[16:26:08] <av500> aholler: maybe no the entertainment stuff
[16:26:13] <av500> not
[16:26:16] <woglinde> aholler -40 is for alaska and siberia
[16:26:29] <av500> and nordhessen
[16:26:38] <woglinde> av500 haha
[16:27:14] <xxiao> my XM should arrive in two days, yeah!
[16:28:12] <xxiao> i failed to get my beagleB5 to run Android 2.2, hope XM will help, more RAM at least
[16:28:34] <aholler> I've just seen that DM which has CAN therefor I've got the clue that DM might be for the automobile-industr
[16:28:46] <xxiao> that makes sense
[16:29:00] <xxiao> though they need more auto-IO than just CAN
[16:29:03] <av500> aholler: sure its not AM?
[16:29:04] <Nico_> It doesn't work with Android ?
[16:29:12] <aholler> av500: could be ;)
[16:29:27] <av500> dm3730 = omap3630 afaik, no CAN
[16:29:54] <xxiao> Nico_: are you talking to me? B5 can not fully working with android, i saw it booted, saw android on the screen, but that's it
[16:29:57] <av500> the AM sitaras have can
[16:30:24] <xxiao> maybe older version of android can work though
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[16:31:24] <xxiao> will TI have any A8 that can do 1080p decoding?
[16:32:41] <Nico_> Ok, interesting
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[16:33:26] <Nico_> xxiao : and what kind of screen do you use to display Android ?
[16:33:28] <av500> xxiao: wrong question, but yes
[16:34:24] <xxiao> av500: which TI/A8 can do 1080 decode? thanks
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[16:34:53] <av500> DM8168
[16:34:54] <jkridner|work> jxxiao: OMAP4
[16:34:58] <jkridner|work> DM8168
[16:34:59] <av500> jkridner|work: thats a9
[16:35:01] <jkridner|work> oops, A8.
[16:35:03] <jkridner|work> right. :)
[16:35:25] <av500> xxiao: but if you meant "portable/mobile" as well, then none
[16:35:47] * jkridner|work steps away from the keyboard as it doesn't seem to be nice to me today.
[16:35:58] <av500> it bit your finger?
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[16:36:09] <xxiao> av500: yes 8168 is shooting for surveillance market and such i assume
[16:36:24] <mru> yes
[16:36:41] <xxiao> i meant for ipad-alike devices, someone needs to hook it to a HDTV to get both a ipad and a google tv, for example
[16:37:28] <xxiao> strangely, there are some ARM9/ARM11 can do 1080p decode with their fancy dsp-or-hardwarecodec
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[16:37:46] <woglinde> hm ac100 can do it
[16:38:02] <woglinde> cortex-a9 tegra2
[16:38:09] <mariopa> hello
[16:38:22] <av500> xxiao: reading this pdf carefully you might find something interesting: http://focus.ti.com/asia/download/asia_techdays0910_pre_05_Sitara_MPU.pdf
[16:38:44] <av500> woglinde: current t2 cannot do 1080
[16:38:54] <xxiao> woglinde: i don't know what happened but tegra is not available for ordinary customers, they like to work behind the doors, unlike beagle/TI
[16:39:20] <woglinde> xxiao you??????
[16:39:27] <xxiao> ?
[16:39:30] <woglinde> nvidia sells a kit in us
[16:39:42] <av500> woglinde: that does not mean they sell silicon
[16:39:43] <xxiao> i mean i would like to get a devkit for tegra2 but can not find a place
[16:39:50] <mariopa> i have a bricked c2 beagleboard that only have power led on and only show me 40V after press user and boot from a external 5v power supply
[16:39:54] <av500> xxiao: mine came after $250 and a week
[16:40:03] <woglinde> you can buy ac100 and folio
[16:40:06] <xxiao> av500: really, where did you get it?
[16:40:10] <woglinde> from thosbia
[16:40:22] <woglinde> got to amazon
[16:40:26] <av500> xxiao: from nvidia
[16:40:27] <woglinde> search ac100
[16:40:35] <mariopa> anybody can help me?
[16:40:42] <aholler> mariopa: your sd-card might be broken or formated bad
[16:40:48] <av500> mariopa: you cannot brick a beagle
[16:40:51] <jkridner|work> av500: well, there you go.
[16:40:52] <mariopa> nop
[16:41:31] <mariopa> I have test all recovery procedures and format in ubuntu, windows, hp format tool
[16:41:45] <av500> mariopa: use one of the 2GB images
[16:41:49] <av500> mariopa: use one of the 2GB demo images
[16:42:09] <xxiao> woglinde: ac100/folio when you buy it can you use it as a devkit? can i somehow get uart and such out?
[16:42:15] <mariopa> it only show 40V from serial when i boot it with a external 5v
[16:42:29] <av500> mariopa: then your sdcard is bad
[16:42:33] <woglinde> xxiao no they have no serial console
[16:42:37] <av500> or you are not holding the user button
[16:42:44] <av500> or you did not use google enough
[16:42:44] <xxiao> woglinde: so that's just a final product
[16:43:12] <av500> xxiao: nvidia used to sell the devkit some time ago
[16:43:16] <av500> dont know if they stopped
[16:43:22] <xxiao> i'm waiting for a 515 board from shenzhen which can be used as a devkit, for $140+shipping
[16:43:30] <mariopa> my card works perfect with a card reader in ubuntu and windows 7
[16:43:41] <xxiao> av500: i went to their develop zone and found nothing
[16:43:53] <mariopa> my card is a 16GB SDHC
[16:43:56] <av500> xxiao: in fact i remember now, I got it from nvidia without ordering :)
[16:44:06] <mariopa> i have to get a 2GB to test the demo image?
[16:44:11] <av500> no
[16:44:17] <av500> it will only use 2gb
[16:44:18] <xxiao> av500: that's what i meant, normal guy like me can not even buy it, at least i don't know how
[16:44:31] <av500> xxiao: go complain to them
[16:44:32] <mariopa> ok thanks i will try
[16:44:38] <xxiao> av500: but what the hack, i have other options anyway
[16:44:51] <av500> xxiao: rockchip! :)
[16:44:57] <av500> jkridner|work: SCNR
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[16:45:43] <xxiao> av500: actually RK's price can not compete with A8 soon, A8 (515) is getting cheap enough that ARM9/ARM11 does not make sense anymore
[16:45:50] <xxiao> even it's shanzhai clones
[16:46:25] <xxiao> even ARM9/11 has good codec, the general cpu itself can not sustain a smooth android UX
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[16:47:23] <xxiao> i think 3730/3530 is still more expensive comparing to imx, so not many takers yet
[16:47:50] <jkridner|work> xxiao: have you really looked at DM3730 pricing?
[16:48:03] <jkridner|work> And the quite affordable AM3517?
[16:48:15] <xxiao> jkridner|work: no i was told by a guy who has a design house in shenzhen, he told me that
[16:48:16] <jkridner|work> I don't think it is a lot more expensive than imx.
[16:49:03] <jkridner|work> I'm getting odd stories about pricing on OMAP35x and DM37x.... there is 1,000 unit pricing on the web.
[16:49:06] <xxiao> jkridner|work: i'm not sure the power consumption, say, dsp uses more power than hardware-codec? i don't know
[16:49:48] <jkridner|work> the odd stories are about distributors asking for more than the listed prices... and I'm trying to run them down to see if they are true.
[16:49:51] <xxiao> all I can say is that there are some many design houses in shanzhai headquarter that is ready to bombar the xpad-clone world in 2011
[16:49:58] <xxiao> s/some/so
[16:50:14] <jkridner|work> DM3730 includes hardware acceleration for codecs, as does OMAP3530, not just pure general purpose DSP.
[16:50:45] <mru> the mythical LEON unit
[16:51:01] <jkridner|work> indeed. :-/
[16:51:26] <jkridner|work> but, it is there and some codecs use it.
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[16:53:02] <mariopa> av500: I'll follow the procedure in http://beagleboard.org/demo/esc to boot an angstrom demo
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[16:53:22] <koen> I was suprised at how much cheaper the DM37xx than the OMAP3530
[16:53:28] <Nico_> Have you tryed to run Meego on Beagle board ?
[16:53:35] <jkridner|work> mariopa: that is old. recommend you go with http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beagleboard/
[16:55:05] <mariopa> ok, but same procedure to prepare the card?
[16:55:16] <av500> mariopa: no procedure
[16:55:19] <av500> its a complete image
[16:55:33] <mariopa> to dump with dd command?
[16:55:54] <av500> bunzip2 -c img.gz2 > /dev/sdfoo
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[16:56:37] <mariopa> ok thanks i'm downloading now
[16:56:37] <mru> /dev/mmcblk0 here :)
[16:56:41] <xxiao> koen: are you sure about the DM37xx cheapness?
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[16:57:15] * av500 say buy one get one free at local aldi for it
[16:57:17] <xxiao> does AM35x have video codec?
[16:57:19] <av500> saw
[16:57:27] <av500> xxiao: depends on the xx
[16:57:30] <xxiao> av500: thanks for that pdf, helpful
[16:57:41] <av500> thank people in mountain view
[16:57:45] <xxiao> av500: i hope you do read chinese, hehe
[16:57:55] <av500> ?
[16:58:03] <xxiao> as that pdf is in chinese?
[16:58:26] <av500> not here
[16:58:26] <mru> I can read many languages
[16:58:30] <mru> understanding is the hard part
[16:58:39] <mru> but chinese I can't even read
[16:58:42] <xxiao> av500: revisit that, just the first page
[16:59:09] <av500> 1st page is rarely useful
[17:00:04] <syntx> anyone can help me with a leopard camera connected to a beagleboard?
[17:00:17] <xxiao> 3730 does seem like a good candidate for ipad, hmm
[17:00:36] <Nico_> xxiao : What kind of screen do you use for your Beagle Board ?
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[17:01:11] <xxiao> Nico_: my 7" touchscreen is on the way, now it's just the 24" LCD, no touch
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[17:01:55] <xxiao> i don't know if people's eye's are better than eagle's, but many of them just wanna 1080p, i see that is useful when you hook the device to a TV
[17:01:55] <av500> xxiao: I guess thats why it is used in tablets today
[17:02:07] <Nico_> xxiao : Is it a xenarc ?
[17:02:39] <xxiao> Nico_: no, i don't know the name yet, it's in a kit
[17:02:55] <Nico_> ?
[17:03:13] <Nico_> xxiao : A developer kit ?
[17:03:45] <xxiao> Nico_: something like that, actually it's a 7" ipad-clone with UART ports etc ready to develop
[17:04:08] <xxiao> plus gps/3-axis/3G-card all the goodness loaded
[17:04:16] <Nico_> xxiao : where have you found that things ?
[17:04:34] <xxiao> a design house in shanzhai headquarter, i.e. shenzhen
[17:04:57] <av500> cpu?
[17:05:01] <xxiao> Nico_: for the price of $170 everything included, i hope it's not a crap that can not even boot up
[17:05:07] <xxiao> Nico_: imx515/800Mhz
[17:05:37] <Nico_> xxiao : there's no web site ?
[17:05:51] <xxiao> Nico_: absolutely no
[17:06:01] <Nico_> ;(
[17:06:15] <xxiao> Nico_: i'm surprised that they're so into making money that even no website to order
[17:06:19] <muriani> xxiao: I've seen that
[17:06:29] <muriani> around $200 right?
[17:06:39] <xxiao> muriani: yes, below $200 actually
[17:06:40] <Nico_> yes
[17:06:51] <Nico_> it's really interesting
[17:06:56] <muriani> nice.
[17:07:06] <muriani> I'd liek to know how well it works
[17:07:32] <xxiao> will report. i was told i should have it in 10 days
[17:07:36] <xxiao> finger crossed
[17:07:52] <xxiao> but my XM will arrive this Tue/Wed
[17:08:45] <Nico_> muriani : Do you have the same things ?
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[17:08:58] <muriani> no, I was looking at it awhile back though
[17:09:08] <Nico_> :)
[17:09:10] <Nico_> ok
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[17:21:15] <aholler> av500: aldi sells tablets?
[17:21:45] <woglinde> aholler let me see
[17:21:47] <av500> aholler: it wrt DM37xx
[17:21:52] <av500> it was
[17:22:11] <woglinde> av500 when?
[17:22:50] <av500> woglinde: for the record: "aldi never sold dm37xx with a buy one get one free scheme"
[17:22:58] <av500> gee
[17:23:23] <woglinde> o.O
[17:24:24] <aholler> i would bet that shenzhen-stuff has a resistive touch
[17:24:53] <mru> resistance is futile
[17:24:57] <mru> you will be capacitated
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[17:26:24] <aholler> it's nice to use a resistive touch with android 1.x because that doesn't support calibration.
[17:26:33] <aholler> endless pain ;)
[17:26:57] <aholler> (with mimo too)
[17:27:05] <av500> aholler: ours does
[17:27:11] <mru> av500: I was about to say
[17:27:20] <mru> why doesn't capacitive need calibration anyway
[17:27:23] <aholler> yours have a home button too ;)
[17:27:29] <av500> mru: it does
[17:27:40] <av500> mru: depends on the tech
[17:27:41] <mru> I never calibrated the nexus 1
[17:27:50] <mru> and I don't see an option for doing it
[17:27:57] <av500> there are different capa technologies
[17:27:59] <aholler> every tried to use android without a home-button(-patch)? ;)
[17:28:04] <av500> some seem to need it, others dont
[17:28:21] <mru> what's so hard about mounting the damn thing in a known location?
[17:28:29] <mru> you don't have to calibrate your keyboard
[17:28:50] <aholler> not true, there are capacitive keyboards ;)
[17:28:51] <av500> mru: mine can be calibrated, all key caps removable easily :)
[17:29:22] <av500> mru: I once swapped F1 and F2 on my keyboard and other ppl maneged to hit the wrong one :)
[17:29:27] <mru> alright, I don't have to calibrate my keyboard
[17:30:11] <mru> but someone once did "calibrate" mine
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[17:30:39] <mru> she used random objects found on my desk to mark a few keys
[17:30:44] <aholler> av500: get such a black keyboard without letters ;)
[17:30:45] <mru> made it easier to find the rest I guess
[17:30:55] <mru> aholler: /me has one of those
[17:31:16] <av500> aholler: if I remove all key caps, I have grey kbd without letters :)
[17:31:26] <av500> e.g. when the caps are in the dish washer
[17:31:31] <mru> if you remove the caps, you'll still have lowercase?
[17:31:42] <av500> YES
[17:32:31] <aholler> http://www.getdigital.de/products/Das_Keyboard_Model_S/lng/en
[17:32:42] <av500> aholler: yes
[17:34:55] <aholler> the any key and panic key are the best offerings ;)
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[17:36:31] <GatorBoz> Why does X-loader copy U-boot to 0x80008000 but U-boot executes from 0x80e80000?
[17:36:47] <aholler> it will relocate itself
[17:36:56] <aholler> at least the new ones
[17:37:10] <av500> cant it deportate itself
[17:37:31] <Oltsu> it's alive!
[17:37:35] <aholler> isn't x-load going to do that?
[17:38:10] <aholler> but then, where's the fun ...
[17:38:25] <Oltsu> the next thing you know you'll have a U-boot crawling up your bedpost with a knife
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[17:39:06] <aholler> i like u-boot
[17:39:45] <aholler> sure it would be better if sram would be large enough for a kernel, but ...
[17:39:46] <av500> aholler: it already holds the knife?
[17:39:56] <av500> make you say things
[17:40:07] <av500> aholler: no need for kernel in sram
[17:40:15] <av500> there is tons of dram
[17:40:32] <aholler> but nothing which initialises that
[17:41:01] <aholler> and if such would work like the in-rom-ml-loader ...
[17:41:08] <aholler> s/ml/mlo/
[17:41:33] <av500> aholler: configuration headers
[17:41:38] <GatorBoz> just rename the vmlinuz to MLO
[17:41:40] <GatorBoz> that would be nice
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[17:42:20] <mru> you can slap a config header on it and do exactly that
[17:42:29] <aholler> av500: I've read about that and wondered why nobody used that
[17:42:36] * av500 too :)
[17:42:42] <GatorBoz> Has nishanth actually perfected that yet? I thought it was just theory
[17:42:49] <mru> perhaps being undocumented has something to do with it
[17:42:53] <GatorBoz> well that and keeping it under 64k
[17:42:56] <aholler> seems to be the same reason why edid isn't support on the beagle
[17:43:00] <av500> GatorBoz: 128k
[17:43:07] <av500> on omap3
[17:43:37] <av500> aholler: you *have* to use that for the HS part, so e.g. moto knows how it works :)
[17:44:05] <GatorBoz> av500: I thought SRAM was only from 0x4020 0000 to 0x4020 FFFF
[17:44:13] <GatorBoz> av500: hence 64k internal sram
[17:44:19] <av500> [18:40:15] <av500> there is tons of dram
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[17:44:39] <GatorBoz> i guess I am still thinking about keeping it all in SRAM
[17:44:51] <av500> no need
[17:45:00] <av500> setting up sdram is writing a few registers
[17:45:22] <GatorBoz> isn't it less power and faster in SRAM?
[17:45:27] <av500> ???
[17:45:38] <av500> aholler: we use it too I think
[17:45:42] <dm8tbr> av500: talking about OMAP HS? I hear a certain finnish company knows that too ;)
[17:45:52] <av500> our stage one boots from "raw" not from fat
[17:45:58] <av500> dm8tbr: sure
[17:47:14] <aholler> what is the "HS" part?
[17:47:28] <av500> high secure
[17:47:31] <mru> highly sophisticated
[17:47:34] <av500> that too
[17:47:46] * aholler is lost with all those akronyms and buzz-words
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[17:49:01] <tasslehoff> is there an elegant way to do a membership test of multiple keys in a dictionary? "if a,b,c are all keys in the dictionary"
[17:49:20] <mru> define dictionary
[17:49:25] <tasslehoff> hm, perhaps not a #beagle question, sorry
[17:49:29] <tasslehoff> more pythonian :)
[17:49:37] <aholler> uh, broken by tabs
[17:50:07] <tasslehoff> I felt a shiver the moment I realized where I posted it ;)
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[17:51:19] <aholler> python always reminds me on my first experience trying to configure sendmail
[17:51:50] <mru> sendmail is much friendlier
[17:52:01] <woglinde> lol
[17:52:13] <woglinde> sendmail was pain in the ass
[17:52:32] <mru> I switched to postfix a long time ago
[17:52:43] <woglinde> yes
[17:58:41] <aholler> I've searched many hours until I've found out that the sendmail config needed tabs instead of spaces. That was realy frustrating because the editor I've use at that time (OS/2 -> epm) converted tabs to spaces. ;)
[17:59:01] <mru> that's why real men use emacs
[17:59:10] <mru> or vi
[17:59:11] <mru> or ed
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[17:59:43] <aholler> vi (without) m wasn't and is still not usable at all ;)
[17:59:53] <mru> moreso than ed
[18:00:08] <Mark____> Hi, I'm looking for some DVSDK help on a Beagle xM
[18:00:42] <Mark____> I'm trying to run the C6Run demos, but have hit a road block.
[18:01:40] <mru> use C4
[18:02:05] <woglinde> real men uses ed and sed
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[18:04:59] <Mark____> Yes, but real programmers.... http://xkcd.com/378/
[18:05:44] <woglinde> *g*
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[18:21:41] <GatorBoz> X-loader copies U-boot in via a Kermit transfer
[18:21:47] <GatorBoz> then shows complete with size and start addr
[18:22:07] <GatorBoz> of 0x80008000
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[18:22:33] <GatorBoz> and then nothing in the terminal
[18:22:39] <GatorBoz> any ideas?
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[18:26:50] <GatorBoz> Looks like I thought I understood U-boot....but nope
[18:27:04] <GatorBoz> anyone have a good overview of u-boot's functional flow?
[18:27:48] <mru> in summary: HCF
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[18:29:10] <GatorBoz> mru: explain?
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[18:49:40] <Mark____> I think I found what I was looking for: http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Getting_Started_With_C6Run_On_Beagleboard
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[18:50:43] <woglinde> hm last modified today
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[19:11:40] <GatorBoz> q
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[19:14:40] <GatorBoz> so if I am going to load U-boot over serial via kermit, should I start the load address at 0x80e8 0000 versus the standard 0x8000 8000 that X-loader defaults to?
[19:15:43] <woglinde> GatorBoz why you dont boot via sdcard?
[19:15:47] <woglinde> makes liefe much easier
[19:15:51] <woglinde> args life
[19:16:09] <GatorBoz> woglinde: X-loader says it cannot find u-boot.bin on the SD card
[19:16:23] <av500> so fix it
[19:16:42] <GatorBoz> woglinde: when X-loader says it is ready to download via kermit, is it wanting to download U-boot or the actual kernel image file?
[19:17:10] <woglinde> normal bootprocessis x-loader, u-boot, kernel
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[19:18:13] <GatorBoz> av500: do you have a crash course in traversing the FAT? I'm source level debugging in fat.c, but need some more info for what the general process is for going through the files
[19:19:04] <woglinde> gatorboz there are 100 tutorials to get beagle running from sd-card, I suggest read one of them
[19:19:30] <GatorBoz> woglinde I have done that already with a Beagle XM...i have a custom board built
[19:19:33] <av500> GatorBoz: does it read the root folder correctly?
[19:19:41] <av500> printf the file names
[19:20:05] <av500> and traversing a fat is simple
[19:20:13] <av500> unless its fat12, then its annoying
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[19:21:41] <woglinde> dont know how a other board differs maybee in some offsets and gpios
[19:21:53] <woglinde> but than please ask your ti contact
[19:22:32] <GatorBoz> woglinde ti contact = not very helpful
[19:22:48] <GatorBoz> av500: stepping through the read_bootsectandvi function in fat.c now
[19:23:08] <woglinde> GatorBoz hm ask for his boss
[19:23:18] <woglinde> and get him fired
[19:23:20] <GatorBoz> woglinde i've spoken to both :)
[19:23:26] <woglinde> lol
[19:24:15] <av500> GatorBoz: does your xload have the sector 63 fix?
[19:24:49] <GatorBoz> av500: what is that??
[19:24:57] <av500> grep for 63
[19:25:04] <GatorBoz> ok any certain branch?
[19:25:17] <av500> well, the one you wrok from, no?
[19:26:26] <GatorBoz> av500: haha
[19:26:36] <GatorBoz> av500: I grepped on 63 and nothing related to sector showed up
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[19:27:34] <av500> GatorBoz: http://www.sakoman.com/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=x-loader.git;a=commit;h=f24393836812798cac755eeaeae37112d709b09d
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[19:29:16] <ben_kludged> hey y'all, watch this
[19:30:05] <woglinde> what?
[19:30:09] <woglinde> I am not watching
[19:30:31] <av500> <random utube url>
[19:31:02] <GatorBoz> av500: looks like my file is identical to that one
[19:31:25] <ben_kludged> actually,,, not only should you not watch,, but it is advisable to remove yourself from the premis,, cause after that comment,,, somethin' usually happens
[19:31:26] <av500> good
[19:31:53] <woglinde> nothing happend
[19:31:57] <ben_kludged> that is a usa southern thang
[19:33:15] <ben_kludged> ah, but you did not hear those words,,, cept in yer own head,,,, ifin you actually hear 'em,,, it is time to move away,,, cause somfin is gonna happen
[19:34:42] <GatorBoz> av500: the block variable = \xEBX\x90mkdosfs
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[19:35:43] <emeb> onoz - my IRC client is running out of commas
[19:35:44] <woglinde> ben_kludged yes I know
[19:35:51] <ben_kludged> rite now,, because i haint had any luck with buntu r1, r2, on c4,,, i am preparin the sd for r3,,, me hopin this in not an excersize in a blue smoke test
[19:35:57] <woglinde> emeb buy new one
[19:36:02] <woglinde> only 1$
[19:36:17] <woglinde> per comma
[19:36:22] <rcn-ee> ben_kludged, your still struggling? what you trying to do again?
[19:36:24] <emeb> cheep!
[19:36:36] <GatorBoz> Does the fat32 partition need to be bootable
[19:36:37] <GatorBoz> ?
[19:36:40] <av500> yes
[19:37:25] <GatorBoz> av500: ok that might be the problem....expanding the "block" variable says "this is not a bootable partition"
[19:37:49] <av500> no
[19:37:53] <av500> ignore that
[19:37:58] <GatorBoz> ok?
[19:38:07] <av500> its the "active" flag in the mbr
[19:38:20] <av500> do fdisk /dev/sdfoo and then "x" and then "p"
[19:38:26] <av500> and pastebin it
[19:38:27] <ds2> why are people making this so complicated... it is a 30second procedure
[19:38:40] <ds2> read it, write it, boot it
[19:38:46] <rcn-ee> they like to complicate their lives.. ;)
[19:38:47] <GatorBoz> ds2: custom board :)
[19:38:58] <ds2> GatorBoz: that is done by the hardware
[19:38:59] <GatorBoz> ds2: it's more about board bring up at this point....
[19:39:03] <ds2> custom don't matter
[19:39:14] <ben_kludged> me gots a special comp bb c4, with their "boot loader" stuffs,,, and me fradie scared to wipe it out , so when i boot buntu i gets no console, no vnc, no ssh, so im pokin in the dark
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[19:40:00] <rcn-ee> ben_kludged, has this been the special comp c4 the 'whole' time?
[19:40:12] <ben_kludged> yes sir, it has
[19:40:49] <rcn-ee> okay... unsupported since day 1... i haven't built their customer x-load/u-boot...
[19:41:19] <ds2> heh, you'd be surprised at what you did build }:-)
[19:41:44] <ben_kludged> that seems to work for angstrom pretty good,, so me donts want to muck that up,,, i gets angstrom up pretty good, but wifi net stuffs just dont get it
[19:42:20] <rcn-ee> ben_kludged, if you use my script, just don't do the '-uboot beagle' thing as that'll overrite your x-load/u-boot...
[19:43:38] <rcn-ee> the needed bit's are in the new x-loader repo, so it wouldn't take to much to rebuild and support it now..
[19:44:08] <ben_kludged> me gots rite now, Texas Instruments X-Loader 1.4.4ss (Jul 28 2010 - 16:59:13) and U-Boot 2010.03 (Jul 24 2010 - 13:35:32)
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[19:45:28] <ben_kludged> i will build the r3 image without the '-uboot beatle' thang
[19:45:36] <ben_kludged> beagle
[19:47:36] <GatorBoz> av500: i should turn on the FAT_DEBUG printfs....that would hlep
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[19:51:29] <ben_kludged> ie,,, "./setup_sdcard.sh --mmc /dev/sdX --uboot beagle" only without the --uboot beagle
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[19:53:32] <rcn-ee> yeap, cause 'beagle' doesn't have the correct x-load/u-boot for the special computer c4 bb..
[19:53:53] <rcn-ee> i saw the patch, just haven't built with it yet.. (as i was gone last week)
[19:54:11] <ben_kludged> rcn-ee, thanks will gets to that within the next hour usin the r3 image when it is done on the dl
[19:55:23] <ds2> stop patching the bootloader!!!
[19:55:51] <rcn-ee> ds2, i agree... ;) it's the 512mb detection in x-loader...
[19:56:07] <ds2> what's wrong with 256mb :P
[19:56:17] <ds2> memory is memory
[19:56:24] <emeb> 640k should be enough for everyone!
[19:56:38] <ben_kludged> i was pretty sure that i had those images, in the proper place, for the buntu install, where can i get info, as to how to muck (config) those images for 1 buntu, and 2 angstrom
[19:56:38] <woglinde> 1k is enough
[19:56:55] <ds2> 64K is plenty; look at all the 8051's out there
[19:57:05] <ben_kludged> yeah it wasnt 640, it was 64..
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[19:57:17] <rcn-ee> ben_kludged, they are built with rootstock on my igepv2, nothing really special full command is listed on the wiki..
[19:57:39] <ds2> arrrggg too much rain; need snow
[19:57:49] <woglinde> come here
[19:57:53] <av500> or here
[19:57:54] <woglinde> we have plenty
[19:58:04] <emeb> http://mactees.net/post/222448880/640k-for-everyone
[19:58:12] <woglinde> I should buy some ski
[19:58:16] <rcn-ee> ds2 you get flooded out yet? it was pretty nasty when i flew out satuday..
[19:58:26] <ben_kludged> you the man,, lemme get all this crap removed, and i will do the r3, thanks folks
[19:58:41] <ds2> rcn-ee: not my area but in other areas...
[19:59:01] <ds2> snow is so much more interesting
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[20:00:16] <emeb> esp. when you're sliding off the road in it...
[20:00:28] <sakoman_> rcn-ee: do you have a 2.6.36 kernel that is known good for beagleboard xM?
[20:00:49] <ben_kludged> me was runnin out of ram in 86 , and had to use .ovl files to get me apps to work,,, each .ovl was 64k
[20:01:08] <ds2> emeb: people have no problems doing that with just rain
[20:01:15] <rcn-ee> sakoman_, not really, it wasn't really any better then 2.6.35, (in some cases buggier) so i'm just going to push 2.6.37 when it gets released..
[20:01:15] <sakoman_> rcn-ee: I just got a replacement xM (my previous one self destructed) and I'm having mmc issues
[20:01:51] <rcn-ee> (on my collection of boards, dss2 sometimes worked between boards..)
[20:01:53] <emeb> ds2: yep - reports are that auto accidents in LA up 100% over last week due to moisture...
[20:02:06] <emeb> err - 1000%
[20:02:11] <sakoman_> rcn-ee: my new xM can't mount the sd card with 2.6.36 or 2.6.36
[20:02:29] <ds2> emeb: the embankments around here get decorated with cars strewn in all sorts of orientations during the first big storm
[20:02:37] <sakoman_> and the validation sd card that it ships with generates hundreds of -110 errors at boot
[20:02:39] <rcn-ee> Which of the xM's did you get? A? B? or C?
[20:03:02] <emeb> ds2: even worse in AZ - no one here understands rain + roads
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[20:03:26] <sakoman_> rcn-ee: it is marked B but u-boot reports it as rev A
[20:03:40] <ds2> emeb: to be fair, during the AZ storms, visibility goes to zero =)
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[20:04:15] <rcn-ee> yeap, i have one of those too... do you have another sd card to quickly test? i've seen the -110 happen on really cheap cards..
[20:04:26] <ds2> emeb: the whole out doors here looks like it is around Sep/Oct... just don't feel christmas-y
[20:04:31] <sakoman_> rcn-ee: I've used 3 or 4 different cards
[20:04:33] <emeb> ds2: there's that
[20:04:56] <ds2> need 3-4 ft of white stuff with real snowman
[20:05:01] <sakoman_> rcn-ee: the validation one that ships is the only one that sort of works, but still reports lots of -110 errors
[20:05:06] <emeb> ds2: just redefine 'christmas-y'
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[20:05:26] <sakoman_> rcn-ee: would you be willing to try my kernel to see if I might just have bad hw?
[20:05:29] <ben_kludged> rcn-ee, me thinks the c4 is ok, but mayhaps me needs to get xM, but me haint interested in video connections, usb keyboards/ mouses,, me wants to it all thru apache and vnc,,,
[20:05:32] <ds2> emeb: frosty the snowman, shaggy horses pulling a sleigh around, etc...
[20:05:44] <ds2> sakoman_: sounds like a good time to get TFTP boot working on the xM in U-boot ;)
[20:05:59] <rcn-ee> sakoman_, i sure can... send me an email (gmail) i'm heading back to work, but i'll grab my xm..
[20:06:02] <sakoman_> ds2: good, go for it!
[20:06:03] <emeb> ds2: that suggests a strong northern-hemisphere bias
[20:06:15] <sakoman_> rcn-ee: great, thanks!
[20:06:31] <rcn-ee> not a problem.. ;)
[20:06:38] <ds2> emeb: if HD/Lowes is going to sell blow up snowman and such...
[20:07:16] * emeb wonders of folks in Australia decorate w/ snowmen and such for X-mas?
[20:07:53] <ds2> I'd guess it depends on which part... go far enough south there and....
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[20:17:20] <Ceriand|work> GatorBoz: which MMC channel is your SD card on for your custom board?
[20:17:39] <GatorBoz> Ceriand|work: MMC0, bits 3:0
[20:18:08] <GatorBoz> p\
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[20:19:21] <Ceriand|work> GatorBoz: so you're able to load x-load from SD, but not u-boot?
[20:19:38] <GatorBoz> Ceriand|work: correct
[20:19:54] <Ceriand|work> do you have a JTAG emulator?
[20:20:21] <GatorBoz> Ceriand|work: X-loader boots up, doesn't see u-boot.bin on the MMC card, then waits for a kermit transfer...I transfer in u-boot.bin, and it tries to execute at 0x8000 8000 (or so it says as the Start Addr:) and then nothing
[20:20:27] <GatorBoz> Ceriand|work: yes
[20:20:48] <Ceriand|work> are you able to verify that you setup the SDRAM correctly?
[20:21:06] <GatorBoz> Ceriand|work: no....how can I do that?
[20:21:26] <av500> run a memtest
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[20:21:47] <Ceriand|work> after x-load is up, try reading/writing to 0x80000000
[20:22:32] <GatorBoz> Ceriand|work: ok standby
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[20:26:21] <Ceriand|work> looks like thurgood went to the dark side
[20:27:10] <GatorBoz> Ceriand|work: Hmm looks like when I edit memory locations they don't set to what I edit them as............
[20:27:42] <Ceriand|work> GatorBoz: you'll want to check your DDR init to make sure it's compatible with the chip you're using
[20:28:15] * av500 assumed that had been done early on
[20:28:37] <GatorBoz> Ceriand|work: Where is that located in Xloader? I am using the same PoP as Beagle C4, and using a very slightly modded X-loader by myself
[20:28:54] <Ceriand|work> it's usually in the board file
[20:29:36] <GatorBoz> Ceriand|work: as in the JTAG BCD board file or xloader board file?
[20:29:44] <Ceriand|work> x-loader
[20:30:09] <GatorBoz> Ceriand|work: ok...
[20:31:43] <GatorBoz> Ceriand|work: I'll check that....but why would Xloader report that u-boot.bin wasn't found, if it is just reading the SD card?
[20:32:41] <Ceriand|work> the fat driver in x-load is a little buggy. sometimes if the sd card hasn't been formatted in awhile, it'll fail to read files
[20:33:57] <Ceriand|work> you might want to try reformatting the sd card, and re-copying the files
[20:34:28] <Ceriand|work> and always make sure you safely unmount the SD card when you're done writing to it
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[21:02:18] <lixian> Hello, guys.
[21:02:22] <lixian> How is the beagle?
[21:02:48] <woglinde_> fine?
[21:04:05] <_av500_> square
[21:05:36] <lixian> Cool.
[21:05:44] <lixian> What are you guys working on?
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[21:07:34] <_av500_> diner
[21:07:47] <mru> you're building a diner?
[21:07:51] <_av500_> dinner
[21:08:43] <woglinde_> I am working on my bee
[21:08:45] <woglinde_> r
[21:09:01] <woglinde_> thats a shit hard work
[21:09:04] <woglinde_> believe me
[21:09:29] <mru> you brew your own?
[21:09:37] <woglinde_> no drinking
[21:10:25] <mru> well, you ain't drinking mine, that's for sure
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[21:29:10] <sakoman_> many thanks to rcn-ee for confirming my fears that my new beagle xM has broken mmc :-(
[21:29:17] <sakoman_> off to the Beagle hospital!
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[21:32:14] <prpplague> sakoman_: ping
[21:33:29] <sakoman_> prpplague: pong
[21:33:49] <prpplague> sakoman_: what is wrong with the mmc card slot?
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[21:34:15] <sakoman_> I get mmc timeout errors (-110)
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[21:34:47] <sakoman_> prpplague: with the SD card that it shipped with it I get hundreds of the these -110 errors
[21:35:06] <sakoman_> with an 8GB class 6 board it won't even mount
[21:35:16] <prpplague> sakoman_: ahh
[21:35:40] <sakoman_> rcn-ee confirmed that the code that fails for me works on his board
[21:36:12] <sakoman_> mine hasn't worked right ever since I received it
[21:36:27] <sakoman_> been having bad luc with beagle and panda hw lately :-(
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[23:13:50] <aholler> hmm, who said mmc is easier to support than nand? ;)
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[23:22:47] <mru> aholler: someone at sandisk I think
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[23:25:23] <aholler> it's astonishing, before the xm everyone complained about problems with the persistent u-boot-env in nand, now everyone has unreadable sd-cards ;)
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[23:27:21] <emeb> ur doin it rong
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[23:53:57] <aholler> hmm, I recently read somewhere a blog entry about using configuration headers but can't find it again. Anyone has the url by hand?
[23:56:17] <aholler> ah, found it: http://nishanthmenon.blogspot.com/2009/05/configuration-header-no-more-x-loader.html

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