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IRC Log for 2011-01-21

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  1. [00:00:14] <rcn-ee> good to here dvhart
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  21. [00:59:14] <tlab> so I put setenv bootcmd 'mmcinit; fatload mmc 0 84000000 uImage; bootm 84000000' in my beagleboard C4 and I get unknown command mmcinit
  22. [00:59:28] <mru> mmc init
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  24. [01:03:41] <tlab> I don't think I'm suppose to get a kernel panic huh
  25. [01:03:42] <djlewis> those old wiki's
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  27. [01:04:03] <tlab> Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
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  38. [01:45:29] <Crofton> anyone remember what the L3 clock is
  39. [01:45:43] <mru> same ddr clock
  40. [01:45:49] <mru> same as
  41. [01:45:57] <mru> so 166MHz on beagle C
  42. [01:46:59] <Crofton> ok that is what I thought
  43. [01:47:49] <mru> on omap4 they are not tied
  44. [01:51:57] <tlab> http://pastebin.com/WRTkJ1fx
  45. [01:52:00] <tlab> does that look right?
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  47. [01:53:12] <mru> looks reasonable
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  49. [01:53:30] <tlab> trying to load 0xdroid, but it's not working
  50. [01:53:45] <mru> except for the pre-dinosaur versions
  51. [01:53:46] <djlewis> all bets are off
  52. [01:54:53] <tlab> what do I need to update?
  53. [01:55:02] <tlab> u-boot?
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  55. [01:55:29] <tlab> x-loader?
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  78. [02:41:56] <Crofton> sakoman__, ping
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  92. [04:05:03] <epifunny> when does koen sleep, i seriously want to know :D
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  99. [04:26:03] <Dan______> sup everyone
  100. [04:26:22] <Dan______> anyone good at DSP programming?
  101. [04:27:10] <Dan______> I got an error called: DSP_WDTOVERFLOW
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  103. [04:34:56] * AlTheKiller guess watchdog timer overflow
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  105. [04:40:53] <Sengoku> Hey
  106. [04:46:35] <Sengoku> anyone selling an xm?
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  108. [04:55:28] <topfs2> pretty sure digi key does
  109. [04:55:42] <Sengoku> topfs2: sold out
  110. [04:56:04] <djlewis> they dont mark stock properly
  111. [04:57:16] <djlewis> word is that 200 boards a week ship to digi key
  112. [04:57:46] <Sengoku> Hm, i should cancel my pandaboard order then
  113. [04:58:01] <Sengoku> I have a rev2 board, but it doesn't read usb properly
  114. [04:58:03] <djlewis> unless you want the pandaboard. it is nice too
  115. [04:58:15] <Sengoku> rev c3*
  116. [04:58:18] <djlewis> i have a rev c2
  117. [04:58:21] <topfs2> if drivers mature the panda is real nice
  118. [04:59:05] <Sengoku> djlewis: does yours have that intermittent usb issue
  119. [04:59:15] <djlewis> well, yes and no
  120. [04:59:42] <ds2> beagle board is nicer ;)
  121. [04:59:42] <djlewis> i have played a 45 minute avi video with a usb to pata adapter without problems
  122. [04:59:51] <Sengoku> djlewis: http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/774e86b760240893/dfe83f48ad70943b
  123. [04:59:56] <Sengoku> get that every time
  124. [04:59:58] <djlewis> I have listened to hours of streaming music without hickup
  125. [05:00:33] <djlewis> I think my cheap powered hubs were an issue
  126. [05:00:57] <Sengoku> djlewis: same deal when i go directly into the usb port
  127. [05:00:58] <djlewis> I mostly used the ehci port
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  129. [05:01:24] <djlewis> did you do the cap mod?
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  131. [05:01:38] <Sengoku> djlewis: cap mod?
  132. [05:01:40] <Sengoku> OH
  133. [05:01:54] <Sengoku> Coudn't find a cap with the correct uF
  134. [05:02:01] <djlewis> helps some of the boards
  135. [05:02:25] <djlewis> its like soldering a flake of pepper on :)
  136. [05:02:44] <djlewis> I think I ordered mine from digikey
  137. [05:03:09] <djlewis> I dont know if the cap has helped mine or not.
  138. [05:03:15] <ds2> pull it from trash boards
  139. [05:03:21] <djlewis> it was working well before
  140. [05:04:54] <Sengoku> djlewis: oh you installed the cap?
  141. [05:07:19] <Sengoku> I'm on digikey's live support. They don't have an ETA of when it'll be in stock. Just "Looks like full leadtime of 15 wks"
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  143. [05:11:17] <ds2> Just order it.
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  145. [05:14:58] <djlewis> gnite
  146. [05:15:58] <Sengoku> bah
  147. [05:15:59] <Sengoku> 'night
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  162. [06:37:16] <kblin> Sengoku: for me, the cap mod for soldering dummies helped :)
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  183. [08:01:55] <Bob_> Hi what are the extra pins required to connect bb to beagletouch and where can I get them?
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  191. [08:28:16] <tariknz> hey guys im using devkit8k all of a sudden my board stopped booting properly.. it gets to u-boot then hangs before the boot countdown.. same issue if i boot from sdcard.. tried different versions of x-loader and u-boot still same problem.. i can't get to the u-boot prompt
  192. [08:29:05] <tariknz> is it damaged?
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  195. [08:33:18] <tariknz> any1 alive?
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  200. [08:38:30] <av500> only zombies here
  201. [08:39:00] <tariknz> lol
  202. [08:39:11] <tariknz> im screweddd
  203. [08:40:08] <av500> yup
  204. [08:40:31] <AlTheKiller> brrrrrraaaaaains
  205. [08:48:44] <tariknz> lol wtf
  206. [08:48:48] <tariknz> i removed the screen
  207. [08:48:49] <tariknz> and
  208. [08:48:50] <tariknz> it worked
  209. [08:49:35] <tariknz> ah
  210. [08:50:10] <tariknz> 1 of the wires
  211. [08:50:12] <tariknz> all fixed
  212. [08:50:24] <tariknz> godbless u zombies
  213. [08:50:43] <av500> gnaw gnaw
  214. [08:51:38] <tariknz> now we can dance http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHoT4N43jK8
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  221. [09:17:17] <av500> there we have it, cross compiling is hard: http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/20/nokia-n9-to-bust-loose-with-meego-on-moorestown-power/
  222. [09:20:57] <koen> av500: nokia never crosscompiled, everything was scarebox
  223. [09:22:53] <av500> well, not its atombox
  224. [09:22:56] <av500> now
  225. [09:24:11] <koen> right
  226. [09:24:43] <av500> maybe they can crosscompile for intel now on omap4s :)
  227. [09:24:44] * koen is pondering on replacing his q6600 with an SNB
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  253. [11:10:18] <siji> Hi All
  254. [11:10:49] <siji> Am trying to change the startup (boottime) logo of angstrom
  255. [11:10:59] <siji> and installed psplash for that
  256. [11:11:31] <siji> (psplash with modifed image)
  257. [11:11:44] <siji> Now where i have to run this command for executing the new image
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  259. [11:17:25] <ksinkar_> has anyone used rootstock to build an image of ubuntu for their bb?
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  261. [11:18:59] <siji> ksinkar,hi
  262. [11:19:05] <siji> I have used it long back
  263. [11:19:19] <siji> with BB c4 and ubuntu 9.04
  264. [11:22:41] <ksinkar_> siji: how long does it take to build the whole image
  265. [11:22:47] <ksinkar_> i have started from morning
  266. [11:23:14] <ksinkar_> atleast 5 hours have gone by
  267. [11:23:20] <siji> yes, it's long process
  268. [11:23:25] <ksinkar_> ok
  269. [11:23:45] <siji> Even it's depends upon your package selection
  270. [11:24:07] <ksinkar_> siji: is there any provision in the linux kernel provided by TI where in the scheduler decides which process to run on what core?
  271. [11:24:08] <siji> (Also your internet speed)
  272. [11:24:29] <av500> ksinkar_: the a8 only has 1 core
  273. [11:24:38] <koen> ksinkar_: there's only one core
  274. [11:24:47] <ksinkar_> i mean between the ARM core and DSP core
  275. [11:25:09] <koen> you have qemu running on the c64x?
  276. [11:26:30] <av500> ksinkar_: linux cannot run a process on the dsp
  277. [11:28:12] <ksinkar_> av500: is it possible to rewrite the scheduler for this particular chip such that certain processses run on the dsp when invoked
  278. [11:29:34] <Sengoku> anyone selling bb?
  279. [11:29:34] <koen> it's a different ISA
  280. [11:29:37] <av500> ksinkar_: the dsp cannot run arm code
  281. [11:29:42] <av500> Sengoku: digikey
  282. [11:29:46] <av500> and others
  283. [11:29:53] <Sengoku> all sold out
  284. [11:30:00] <Sengoku> well xm
  285. [11:31:26] <ksinkar_> av500: but c6run app tools helps us to compile code such that when ARM encounters that code it automatically shifts it to the DSP, right and iirc the ARM instruction set has specific instructions which forward assembly code for another processor to that processor
  286. [11:31:51] <av500> c6run compiles dsp code in the end
  287. [11:32:19] <av500> and the linux kernel knows nothing about c6run or the dsp
  288. [11:32:31] <ksinkar_> ok
  289. [11:33:17] <ksinkar_> is it theoretically possible to modify the scheduler to use the dsp core using the free tools provided by TI?
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  291. [11:35:22] <av500> everything is possible
  292. [11:35:23] <aholler> I would found that nice, it would give the unused dsp here something to do ;)
  293. [11:36:11] <ksinkar_> av500: thank you for your answer
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  357. [16:50:25] <ksinkar> i have uclinux compiled for LPC 2468, i tried to tftp boot it on my beagleboard but nothing happened other than the tftp loading complete signal
  358. [16:50:44] <ksinkar> both are ARM cores
  359. [16:51:12] <ksinkar> atleast my the hawkboard should reboot
  360. [16:53:28] <aholler> you should read the TRM or at least the SRM to get an idea of what parts the BeagleBoard has
  361. [16:53:59] <aholler> arm-board != arm-board
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  363. [16:56:12] <av500> leg work to be done
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  365. [17:04:35] <ksinkar> av500: i agree, but i don't know where to begin. can you give me starting point ? so that i don't ask stupid questions again
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  367. [17:05:40] <Ceriand|work> ksinkar: do what he said and read the TRM/SRM
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  370. [17:22:37] <_bruce> /w/win 2
  371. [17:22:50] <koen> /loose 4
  372. [17:23:04] <AlTheKiller> /lose 4
  373. [17:23:34] <aholler> /
  374. [17:24:02] <woglinde> frida/
  375. [17:24:10] <_bruce> ;]
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  377. [17:25:47] <dvhart> I'm having some trouble getting the xM ethernet to show up via ifconfig. I've config'd in USB_NET_SMSC95XX and searched for beagleboard related usb hub patches that I might be missing (came up short)
  378. [17:25:59] <dvhart> is anything subtle about this device I might be missing?
  379. [17:26:12] <aholler> add an -a ;)
  380. [17:26:20] <dvhart> heh, yeah, I tried that
  381. [17:26:26] <woglinde> dvhart try as module
  382. [17:26:50] <dvhart> I did =y - is there a known issue with using it built-in ?
  383. [17:27:01] <woglinde> maybee
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  385. [17:28:45] <koen> dvhart: why don't you just use the beagle kernels from the TI BSP layer? Those work
  386. [17:29:22] <dvhart> koen, the goal is to have support for a lot of different hardware wit a single kernel source
  387. [17:29:34] <dvhart> koen, rather than pulling in dozens of kernels
  388. [17:29:39] <dvhart> and maintaining all those recipes
  389. [17:29:41] <woglinde> o.O
  390. [17:30:26] <dvhart> koen, and I'm currently working on the -stable recipe, which is admittedly older now
  391. [17:30:43] <dvhart> koen, when I get to the 2.6.37 kernel, I suspect things will go more smoothly
  392. [17:31:04] <Ceriand|work> don't count on it :-p
  393. [17:31:07] <dvhart> heh
  394. [17:31:23] <dvhart> well I know I wouldn't have hit some of the same issues at least :)
  395. [17:31:33] <dvhart> like the gpio/wp lines thing
  396. [17:32:03] <Ceriand|work> when you get it all running, you should also check that you can suspend and wake the board
  397. [17:32:18] <dvhart> looks like http://gitorious.org/angstrom/angstrom-linux/commit/c908140c053071789dfa72f34bee76223ba9bdb7 might be relevant
  398. [17:33:15] <woglinde> koen may answer
  399. [17:33:34] <dvhart> he did, indirectly, on an earlier question on a mailing list ;-)
  400. [17:33:48] <woglinde> but dont having the networkinterface should have upset some more people
  401. [17:33:59] <dvhart> woglinde, I'm using 2.6.34
  402. [17:34:18] <woglinde> this is offical supported?
  403. [17:34:23] <woglinde> cannt remember that
  404. [17:35:42] <dvhart> I don't know either
  405. [17:35:58] <woglinde> so I fear you are on your own
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  407. [17:36:11] <woglinde> jo crofton
  408. [17:36:23] <Crofton> gm
  409. [17:36:34] <_av500_> gm
  410. [17:36:40] <Crofton> must find inner peace and figure out why L3 clock is funny
  411. [17:36:54] <woglinde> dvhart either use 2.6.32-psp or try .37
  412. [17:37:03] <woglinde> hm
  413. [17:37:12] <woglinde> dont know if .32 works for xm
  414. [17:37:52] <dvhart> woglinde, I'm working on improviing beagleboard support in yocto - so the base kernel version is fixed
  415. [17:38:01] <dvhart> we have two kernel recipes
  416. [17:38:06] <dvhart> one is .34 based, the other .37
  417. [17:38:09] <woglinde> hm there is .34 psp in oe
  418. [17:38:12] <dvhart> I'm working to add support for both
  419. [17:38:25] <dvhart> so just switching to another kernel isn't something I can do
  420. [17:38:34] <woglinde> but only for ti816x
  421. [17:38:44] <woglinde> ?
  422. [17:39:38] <Crofton> heh
  423. [17:39:52] <Crofton> sounds like we need a better bsp model for yocto :)
  424. [17:40:08] <dvhart> Crofton, there is a lot of discussion around that
  425. [17:40:09] <Crofton> in my case, I want to define the kernel version, not work from yocto versioin
  426. [17:40:23] * Crofton has a specific use case for a shipping product
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  428. [17:40:51] <Crofton> ouor kernel is built from a sakoman__ .35 overo repo plus a few patches
  429. [17:41:26] <dvhart> the motivation, from my perspective anyway, is to be able to reuse on the meta-data in the yocto kernel repositories for assembling the source tree, aggregating config fragments, etc
  430. [17:41:31] <woglinde> crofton .35 works with dsp support?
  431. [17:41:46] <Crofton> I haven't worked on that issue yet :)
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  433. [17:41:59] <Crofton> that is b7500af1 's problem
  434. [17:42:09] <Crofton> or I will move to .37
  435. [17:42:43] <_bruce> anyone here has done jtag debugging on the bbxm?
  436. [17:42:54] <b7500af1> I'm close.. just a couple wrinkles to iron out.
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  443. [17:50:37] <Crofton> sakoman__, ping
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  447. [17:55:47] <Crofton> b7500af1, post code!
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  449. [17:59:09] <b7500af1> Soon. I'll get some of this stuff organized and cleaned up.
  450. [17:59:28] <woglinde> *g*
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  455. [18:04:35] <FredsFish> just wondering, has anyone here gotten wifi to work on the beagleboard??
  456. [18:05:43] <woglinde> why not?
  457. [18:05:54] <koen> woglinde: dsp works on .35, but I'm using .37 on Crofton's product :)
  458. [18:06:18] <woglinde> koen got the patches upstream?
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  460. [18:06:33] <koen> for what?
  461. [18:06:39] <koen> it's all external kernel modules
  462. [18:06:41] <woglinde> dsp stuff from psp-.32
  463. [18:06:45] <woglinde> hm okay
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  465. [18:07:42] <koen> I see no point in "reusing bla bla bla" when the end result is a turd
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  470. [18:13:40] <Crofton> I think the annoying part is sgx?
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  472. [18:14:09] <koen> for sgx you need to know what you're doing if you want to package it :)
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  475. [18:21:15] * Crofton mumbles about people doing kernel upgrades in the field
  476. [18:22:00] <ds2> nothing wrong with that as long as you have all the redundancies in place ;)
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  479. [18:27:24] <_av500_> we do that all the time
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  481. [18:29:17] <aholler> unfortunately
  482. [18:29:26] <_av500_> ?
  483. [18:30:47] <sakoman__> Crofton: pong
  484. [18:31:28] <Crofton> this L3 clock is confusing
  485. [18:31:31] <_av500_> sakoman__: fun, read a quote from you in a book today
  486. [18:31:43] <Crofton> _av500_, which book?
  487. [18:31:55] <Crofton> right now, I am trying to make the timing diagram sane
  488. [18:32:05] <Crofton> and will get back to the actual clock rate
  489. [18:32:07] <sakoman__> _av500_: I'm sure I was misquoted :-)
  490. [18:32:20] <_av500_> "the race for perfect"
  491. [18:32:40] <woglinde> hehe
  492. [18:32:42] <woglinde> nice title
  493. [18:32:48] <sakoman__> Clearly I don't belong in a book with that title!
  494. [18:32:58] <_av500_> i will remove that page then
  495. [18:33:03] <woglinde> *g*
  496. [18:33:14] <sakoman__> It would probably be best :-)
  497. [18:33:25] <_av500_> its a one liner
  498. [18:33:42] <_av500_> something like "adata sdcards are slow"
  499. [18:34:05] <woglinde> *g*
  500. [18:34:19] <Crofton> hmm, will dmesg show me L3 clock?
  501. [18:34:20] <sakoman__> ah, ok. if it is an intelligent comment, then I said it (or perhaps whished I'd saidit)
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  503. [18:34:35] <_av500_> sakoman__: i will paste it later
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  505. [18:35:02] <sakoman__> _av500_: please don't embarass me!
  506. [18:35:13] <Crofton> do it :)
  507. [18:35:27] <mru> Crofton: L3 clock is same as DDR clock
  508. [18:35:36] <helo> no lvds directly from the xM?
  509. [18:35:46] <Crofton> anyone who has a photoshopped picture of himself on the internet should survive a quote
  510. [18:37:07] <sakoman__> Crofton: dmesg prints the sdrc clock
  511. [18:37:44] <sakoman__> (and core clock of course)
  512. [18:37:46] <Crofton> Reprogramming SDRC clock to 224791666 Hz
  513. [18:37:46] <woglinde> hi mru
  514. [18:37:46] <Crofton> dpll3_m2_clk rate change failed: -22
  515. [18:38:09] <mru> Crofton: what chip are you using? and what ram?
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  518. [18:41:25] <Crofton> Overo Tide
  519. [18:41:50] <Crofton> mpurate set to 720
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  523. [18:42:59] <sakoman__> Crofton: does the measured rate change between u-boot and the kernel?
  524. [18:43:30] <Crofton> can't tell
  525. [18:43:47] <Crofton> gpmc_clk is only active during gpmc transfers
  526. [18:43:50] <sakoman__> does it change if you set mpurate to 500?
  527. [18:43:54] <Crofton> for CS's set to synch :)
  528. [18:44:02] <Crofton> hmm
  529. [18:44:05] <Crofton> should try that case
  530. [18:44:20] <sakoman__> I'm suspecting the using mpurte might adjust it
  531. [18:44:24] <Crofton> yeah
  532. [18:44:55] <sakoman__> never have really looked at that code in detail
  533. [18:45:11] <sakoman__> so I really don't know exactly what it does
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  535. [18:45:42] <Teuxe> Hi everyone
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  537. [18:46:22] <Teuxe> where have I to report some typo from the system manual ?
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  539. [18:49:01] <Crofton> mpurate at 500, still see wrong L3 clcok
  540. [18:50:32] <Belna> has someone a lvds display connected to the beagleboard lcd connector?
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  542. [18:52:32] <Ceriand|work> Crofton: if you have clock debugging and debugfs enabled, you should be able to get the l3_iclk rate at /debugfs/clock/virt_<whatever crystal the BB uses>m_ck/osc_sys_ck/sys_ck/dpll3_ck/dpll3_m2_ck/core_ck/l3_ick
  543. [18:53:19] <Crofton> Ceriand|work, thanks
  544. [18:53:28] <Crofton> will that work on .35?
  545. [18:53:43] <Ceriand|work> I think so
  546. [18:54:13] <Ceriand|work> I'm running .36 here, but I remember it working with .35
  547. [18:56:06] <Crofton> root@usrp-e1xx:~# cat /sys/kernel/debug/clock/virt_26m_ck/osc_sys_ck/sys_ck/dpll3_ck/dpll3_m2_ck/core_ck/l3_ick/rate
  548. [18:56:06] <Crofton> 112395833
  549. [18:57:06] <Crofton> weird
  550. [19:05:59] <djlewis_> Teuxe: on the mail list
  551. [19:06:47] <dvhart> woglinde, fyi, fixing the EHCI pin assertion level for xM (from one of koen's patches) resolved the usb networking issues I was having - so it is working built-in for me.
  552. [19:07:08] <dvhart> thanks folks
  553. [19:08:46] <Crofton> sakoman__, you should check things with the debugfs with the info from Ceriand|work
  554. [19:09:02] <Crofton> looks like a good trick
  555. [19:10:04] <Ceriand|work> if you're really masochistic, you could also dump the registers from debug/pm_debug/registers/current and figure out the DPLL values yourself
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  558. [19:14:19] <sakoman__> Crofton: will try to look at that a bit later -- on a deadline right now
  559. [19:14:29] <Crofton> np
  560. [19:14:41] <sakoman__> I would suspect that beagle would give the same results
  561. [19:14:43] <Crofton> I am happy to know it is funny, and work on my real problem
  562. [19:14:47] <Crofton> sure
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  564. [19:14:58] <sakoman__> so maybe you found a kernel bug :-)
  565. [19:15:00] <Crofton> hopefully some of the others in channel check
  566. [19:15:47] <Crofton> if I get a chance, I'll post something to the overo list asking people to check
  567. [19:15:58] <sakoman__> I don't believe that there is anything in the board file that would affect l3, except maybe the sdrc params, and I think those are the same for all the omap3 boards
  568. [19:16:06] <Crofton> sure
  569. [19:16:29] <sakoman__> so l-o might be a better place to ask
  570. [19:16:57] <sakoman__> I think you are operating in a realm where most overo users never go!
  571. [19:18:09] <Crofton> yeah, but they can run the commands and report data :)
  572. [19:18:15] <Crofton> we'll see where I get
  573. [19:18:18] <Crofton> koen, ping
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  575. [19:18:36] <Crofton> if you have followed along, can you let us know what .37 reports
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  577. [19:22:38] <koen> Crofton: pong
  578. [19:23:21] <Crofton> Ceriand|work, posted a way to read l3 clk via debugfs
  579. [19:23:44] <Crofton> when you are bored can you check what you get with .37 on your e100
  580. [19:24:07] <Crofton> I get 112Mhz here
  581. [19:24:15] <Crofton> we expect 166 I think ....
  582. [19:24:29] <koen> 112395833
  583. [19:24:37] <koen> Linux usrp-e1xx 2.6.37 #1 PREEMPT Sun Jan 16 16:14:24 CET 2011 armv7l GNU/Linux
  584. [19:28:58] <Crofton> cool
  585. [19:29:06] <Crofton> something funky is up I fear
  586. [19:29:23] <woglinde> some clock is setting wrong?
  587. [19:29:35] <Crofton> I think so, I am no guru
  588. [19:29:44] <koen> Crofton: is this related to my clock problem?
  589. [19:29:59] <Crofton> not
  590. [19:30:00] <koen> send me an fpga image and I'll test it :)
  591. [19:30:02] <Crofton> different clock
  592. [19:30:12] <Crofton> hmm
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  594. [19:31:28] <Crofton> in the sense that the timing change might make the gpmc fpga interface marginal and it has troble reading back the fpga compat number
  595. [19:31:40] <Crofton> but first we need something that works here
  596. [19:31:58] <Crofton> it feels like I am seeting the csextradealy bit, but I swear I am not
  597. [19:32:04] <Crofton> very confused
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  599. [19:36:27] <Teuxe> djlewis_ ok thanks ;)
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  629. [20:31:53] <djlewis_> damn self rebooting computer :(
  630. [20:32:01] <woglinde> haha
  631. [20:32:06] <woglinde> buy a better one
  632. [20:32:16] <djlewis_> i'm at the work place
  633. [20:37:15] <mru> buy a better one
  634. [20:37:48] <woglinde> mru no at work, hire a better admin
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  638. [20:40:51] <Crofton> mru, you catch the discussion on the clock rate
  639. [20:41:11] <Crofton> feels like hte kernel is setting to 112 Mhz atm :)
  640. [20:41:16] <mru> hmm
  641. [20:41:20] <mru> bit low
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  643. [20:42:56] <Crofton> yes ....
  644. [20:42:57] <Crofton> weird
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  647. [20:43:09] <Crofton> it used to be 166 ....
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  649. [20:43:28] <Crofton> gpmc cs timing is being a bitch atm
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  652. [20:44:24] <phantoxe> hi
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  654. [20:48:35] <Ceriand|work> Crofton: are you using the TIMEPARAGRANULARITY flag?
  655. [20:50:01] <Crofton> the what?
  656. [20:50:10] <Crofton> in the gpmc config?
  657. [20:50:18] <Ceriand|work> yes
  658. [20:50:22] <Crofton> er
  659. [20:50:29] <Ceriand|work> it makes all the timings take twice as long
  660. [20:50:30] <Crofton> it does not sound familiar ....
  661. [20:50:43] <Crofton> is that a per chip select one?
  662. [20:50:48] <Ceriand|work> yea
  663. [20:50:52] <Crofton> hmmm
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  665. [20:50:59] <Ceriand|work> in CONFIG1
  666. [20:51:09] <Crofton> the rd strobe is sane, the cs seems delayed by a clock
  667. [20:51:27] <Crofton> no set to 0
  668. [20:51:41] <Crofton> that would impact CS and OE>WR
  669. [20:51:45] <Ceriand|work> are you setting it up in linux, or sometime earlier?
  670. [20:51:50] <Crofton> linux
  671. [20:51:54] <Crofton> in the board file
  672. [20:52:26] <Ceriand|work> you should just be able to put the delays in there and have the clock api sort out the right values
  673. [20:52:27] <Crofton> it is kind of funny, becaus it is attached to an fgpga and we are ignoring address :)
  674. [20:52:44] <Crofton> not sure what you mean?
  675. [20:52:57] <mikkelbg> Hi, does anyone here know if I can power the BeagleBoard through the expansion header?
  676. [20:53:00] <Crofton> we are drawing the desired waveform and setting registers by hand
  677. [20:53:09] <Ceriand|work> ah
  678. [20:53:24] <Crofton> not reading numbers from a data sheet :)
  679. [20:53:27] <Ceriand|work> so you're not using gpmc_cs_set_timings()?
  680. [20:53:30] <Crofton> no
  681. [20:53:38] <Crofton> maybe I should read that though
  682. [20:54:14] <Crofton> I basically negotiate the waveforms with the guy writing the fpga code
  683. [20:54:32] <Ceriand|work> with that you just pass in a struct of timings in nanoseconds, and it'll adjust the register values for the current value of the gpmc clk
  684. [20:54:36] <Crofton> we have ayns working now, but want to use sync so we can change fpga clock speed
  685. [20:54:50] <Crofton> yeah, we do not work that way
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  687. [20:58:22] <Ceriand|work> i'd take a look at gpmc_cs_set_timings() anyhow, see if there's anything you can use
  688. [21:14:06] <Crofton> Ceriand|work, not much help there
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  690. [21:14:17] <Crofton> this must be something dumb
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  693. [21:27:32] <Crofton> I really feel like one of the signals is taking the long way through the fpga
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  698. [21:34:05] <epifunny> what is the default root password of angstrom build from narcissus
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  700. [21:38:14] <epifunny> my angstrom asked for a root passwd while first time config
  701. [21:38:33] <epifunny> i don't know what it expects
  702. [21:39:08] <epifunny> i pressed `cancel' and its kinda a stuck after that. I am using GNOME as desktop manager.
  703. [21:39:39] <epifunny> now evertime i am booting i get a blank screen with a pointer
  704. [21:43:21] <epifunny> hello anyone her?
  705. [21:43:29] <epifunny> **here
  706. [21:44:01] <mru> [ -> ]
  707. [21:45:09] <epifunny> mru: i can see that :P
  708. [21:45:10] <woglinde> cannt see thats a beagleboard question
  709. [21:46:21] <epifunny> i thought most of the people use angstrom here
  710. [21:46:29] <epifunny> on beagleboard
  711. [21:49:16] <woglinde> but dont you think its rather a gnome question or gdm?
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  713. [21:52:21] <djlewis_> epifunny: that should be a very easy question for google ;)
  714. [21:52:21] <epifunny> yeah, i was hoping if anyone had any experience with that.
  715. [21:53:57] <epifunny> djlewis_: unfortunately i haven't had any luck there :(
  716. [21:54:25] <epifunny> and nobody seems to respond on the angstrom irc
  717. [21:57:18] <Crofton> can you log in via the serial port and set one
  718. [21:57:41] <Crofton> I'm thinking the pw is empty and the gnome login does not like that
  719. [21:57:54] <Crofton> sorry I'm not watch #angstrom atm
  720. [21:58:01] <epifunny> the funny thing is that serial breaks down after log in as in http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/920e9479916e4ef8?fwc=1&pli=1
  721. [22:01:35] <epifunny> Crofton: but i am still able to get the angstrom log-in screen and can log in from the graphical mode. it goes blank on successful log in.
  722. [22:01:57] <Crofton> ah
  723. [22:01:58] <Crofton> weird
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  728. [22:05:45] <djlewis_> epifunny: there are no def pwd's and you create them on the gui when it first comes up.
  729. [22:05:47] <epifunny> tha serial issue does not occur when i keep the video out cable disconnected. i guess, that would be a beagle board question. woglinde, what so you think?
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  731. [22:06:19] <djlewis_> it is not cool to plug.unplug the dvi/hdmi with power on.
  732. [22:07:11] <epifunny> djlewis_: yes, i did create one account the first time, but it also gave me a hardware setup dialog the one which begins with setting up of the clock, it asked for a root passwd.
  733. [22:07:35] <epifunny> yes, it turn of the board before unplugging the cable.
  734. [22:07:56] <epifunny> i am using s-video.
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  736. [22:10:03] <djlewis_> ugh... s-video ...
  737. [22:10:56] <epifunny> why is that known to cause issues?
  738. [22:11:20] <djlewis_> no, just not as nice as a good dvi monitor :)
  739. [22:11:33] <epifunny> i can use the serial without the video cable.
  740. [22:11:42] <djlewis_> but not with?
  741. [22:12:18] <epifunny> yes, not with the monitor simultaneously, http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/920e9479916e4ef8?fwc=1&pli=1 issue happens
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  743. [22:12:35] <djlewis_> that sounds like a cable mis wire problem
  744. [22:12:39] <djlewis_> to the s-video
  745. [22:13:06] <djlewis_> or a ground loop between the s-video monitor and beagleboard perhaps.
  746. [22:13:09] <epifunny> but what about the gnome issue?
  747. [22:13:26] <epifunny> i would try with a dvi-d cable tomorrow
  748. [22:14:03] <djlewis_> hdmi to dvi
  749. [22:14:16] <epifunny> yes
  750. [22:14:26] <djlewis_> going black could be the video changing
  751. [22:14:36] <epifunny> my monitor unfortunately does not have a hdmi cable
  752. [22:14:37] <djlewis_> from s-video to something else
  753. [22:14:43] <epifunny> *hdmi port
  754. [22:14:46] <djlewis_> hdmi on bb to dvi on monitor
  755. [22:14:56] <epifunny> yes
  756. [22:14:59] <djlewis_> :)
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  758. [22:15:22] <epifunny> but the thing there is also a cursor on the screen, so it may not be video issues
  759. [22:15:42] <djlewis_> oh, how the clues keep slipping out
  760. [22:16:41] <epifunny> btw, i just did setup a root passwd via serial, in case if it was causing any trouble.
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  763. [22:20:55] <epifunny> but no luck it seems. here's a complete description of what all happens, i get the angstrom startup splash screen. i then see a inverted mouse cursor. it gives me a regular angstrom log-in prompt. on successful log in i get a blank screen with a crossed cursor which soon changes to a regular cursor. then the screen sort of freezes. i can move around the cursor though.
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  765. [22:21:42] <epifunny> meanwhile funny characters come up via serial if try to log in there as well.
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  767. [22:22:42] <tlab> whats the newest version of u-boot?
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  769. [22:26:01] <sakoman__> tlab: the most recent u-boot release is v2010.12
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  780. [22:52:07] <tlab> ugh I'm an idiot, I erased my nand now I can't connect
  781. [22:52:22] <mru> unerase it
  782. [22:52:33] <woglinde> dont use nand at all
  783. [22:53:03] <tlab> well somehow I got something installed in nand and it kept booting off it
  784. [22:53:17] <tlab> now I get wing dings on the serial port
  785. [22:58:13] <tlab> is there a default serial port setting?
  786. [22:58:31] <djlewis_> 115200,8,n,1
  787. [22:59:15] <djlewis_> though I fail to understand why the default is not 9600,8,n,1 for reliability
  788. [23:00:22] <mru> 9600 is to goddamn slow
  789. [23:00:36] <djlewis_> like you can type fast enough to choke it?
  790. [23:01:01] <mru> not type, but program output is often faster
  791. [23:01:05] <djlewis_> and just how much screen data do we need form a diagnostic port?
  792. [23:01:24] <mru> some of my machines use 9600 by default, and using those consoles can be quite annoying
  793. [23:01:39] <mru> ls in a large dir can take a while
  794. [23:01:53] <djlewis_> takes a while to read that much
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  796. [23:03:22] <djlewis_> if it was a gui i would opt for faster
  797. [23:03:52] <mru> I can scan a listing for a pattern faster than 9600bps
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  799. [23:04:39] <djlewis_> well, then change the setting to a faster baud. I still contend that 9600 might be more reliable for the mass of computers or general users
  800. [23:05:12] <djlewis_> 115200 is pressing the limits of a serial port
  801. [23:05:36] <djlewis_> why does cisco and others still def to 9600?
  802. [23:06:19] <mru> that's how they've always done it?
  803. [23:06:26] <djlewis_> 115200 has been on terminals since the 80's
  804. [23:07:26] <djlewis_> i say is a more reliable connection and data speed for cross the board hardware connecting.
  805. [23:07:37] <djlewis_> 9600, that is
  806. [23:08:07] <djlewis_> there is most always the option to increase the speed with devices.
  807. [23:10:35] <djlewis_> taking into account, long or crappy cables, marginal serial circuits, clocks just a bit off, etc
  808. [23:13:57] <djlewis_> later...
  809. [23:14:02] <aholler> thunerbolts, sun storms, ...
  810. [23:14:15] <djlewis_> :)
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  814. [23:20:06] <_av500_> 9600? i run my serial at 1mbit
  815. [23:22:05] * dvhart has very good luck with 115200
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  822. [23:39:50] <Crofton> _av500_, will we ever here the quote?
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