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IRC Log for 2011-03-15

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[00:02:21] <ds2> wheeeeeee LCD on xM despite all the "issues"
[00:03:46] <prpplague> ds2: dandy
[00:04:15] <ds2> prpplague: I really really really wish xM, C4, and Panda provided the same things
[00:04:50] <prpplague> ds2: yea pretty close, but not exact
[00:05:19] <ds2> prpplague: just enough for things to not drop in
[00:05:44] <ds2> prpplague: how sure are you that the son of triton can generate 3.3V on the LCD connector rail?
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[00:06:32] <prpplague> ds2: about 90% but i haven't driven it myself to that value, as i never use those rails, i always add my own
[00:06:58] <ds2> prpplague: gotca...the xM tops out at 3.0V :(
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[01:56:22] <djlewis> don't I remember ds2: telling a new person just how easy lcd interface is?
[01:56:37] <djlewis> ;)
[01:57:24] <ds2> djlewis: it is... it is trivial
[01:57:31] <ds2> it is working right now
[01:57:54] <ds2> doesn't change the facts about Gerald's revenge Part II ;)
[01:58:14] <ds2> I must find the supplier of these xM demo SD cards
[01:58:21] <ds2> I am very very very very impressed
[01:58:43] <AngryParsley> are the fast?
[01:58:46] <AngryParsley> *they
[01:59:10] <ds2> yes they are... faster then I can hire guys to chisel out 4gig's worth of data on stone tablets
[02:03:24] <djlewis> hmm, i sense a bit of NOT FAST! in that statement
[02:03:33] <ds2> it is all relative
[02:04:12] <djlewis> I hear they dont make good paper weights either.
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[03:08:04] <hgs> hi all, any one successful in running omap(graphics(simple animations) and video plane(video playback)) at 24BPP at 1280x720 screen resolution??
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[03:09:30] <hgs> i am seeing bandwidth issues (GFX underflow driver messages) when operating the screen at 24BPP!
[03:09:44] <mru> don't do that then
[03:12:54] <humbolt> I am trying to run narcissus locally, so I can build my images myself easily. But there is almost no documentation at all. README tells me to install pseudo and libpseudo. I found a libpseudo version on sourceforge, but the pseudo version provided there seems to be for windows.
[03:12:59] <humbolt> any ideas?
[03:16:07] <hgs> mru: so can you tell me what is the maximum resolution that can be safely operated at 24-non alpha mode - 32BPP-with alpha mode??
[03:16:29] <mru> depends on what you do
[03:21:34] <hgs> ok looks like i had live with it. my apps work fine when operating 24bpp with 800x600 resolution- but this is by trial and error. how do i find this theoretically??
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[03:49:34] <rv_bb> hi!
[03:50:01] * rv_bb <-- new BB owner since last friday :D
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[04:03:12] <rv_bb> trying out the SGX ...
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[04:20:45] <bernard_> anyone ever tried reading the L1 cache tag contents, using c15, c3 and friends?
[04:21:16] <bernard_> i'm hitting an undefined instruction exception trying to do so from kernel mode, and can't figure out why
[04:22:23] <rv_bb> nope, haven't played with that.
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[04:27:37] <rv_bb> I'm trying to get the SGX to render something besides glClearColor :)
[04:31:13] <rv_bb> oh .. its doing something ... not quite right but there's some lines completely off center
[04:32:30] <rv_bb> looks like the viewport isn't set to correct default values
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[04:47:42] <rv_bb> the SGX drivers don't play very well with X11 :P
[04:52:13] <thurbad> did you actually initialize the view frustrum?
[04:54:06] <rv_bb> yeah, I figured out what the problem was, I have to destroy and recreate the Surface if the window gets resized
[04:54:21] <rv_bb> unlike GLX that handles it by itself
[04:54:47] <rv_bb> (I'm using EGL)
[04:57:53] <rv_bb> things are in the right place now but somehow the glColorPointer gets ignored, I get junk colors
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[05:13:22] <rv_bb> the thing runs fine on the BB with mesa (albeit very slowly) and on PC.
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[05:18:38] <rv_bb> aaaah!
[05:18:51] * rv_bb *foreheadslap*
[05:20:07] <rv_bb> GLES only supports rgba colors, not rgb :P
[05:20:18] <rv_bb> for the glColorPointer
[05:20:34] <thurbad> does angstrom use the standard boot arg to control ram disk size? (ie ramdisk_size=xxxxx)
[05:26:38] <rv_bb> dunno, can't check the boot script or the option's not there ?
[05:36:19] <thurbad> it's not in my bootscript
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[05:36:58] <rv_bb> maybe you could uncompress the kernel image and grep for ramdisk_size ?
[05:37:40] <thurbad> maybe, just wondered if anyone knew offhand
[05:37:40] <rv_bb> I don't see why they'd have changed it from the standard kernel tho
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[05:38:07] <thurbad> the standard size is 64MB, much bigger than my needs
[05:38:21] <NotTooDumb3> In 32 kernel version, why there are two folders omap and omap2 for omapfb driver? any idea about this? and angstrom used omap2, can't i make it to use omap instead of omap2 driver?
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[05:44:16] <thurbad> can't say for certain, but why would you want to use the other version?
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[05:45:52] <thurbad> hmm, maybe I'm wrong... it seems the ramdisk is using whatever memory is left over at the moment, so maybe I can't even set it
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[05:50:11] <thurbad> ... if that's truly the case I don't need to worry about it
[05:55:11] <rv_bb> yay! color's working now, next gotta do the QUAD->TRIANGLE conversion
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[05:57:57] <NotTooDumb3> thurbad, yes i want to use other version..
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[06:06:42] <NotTooDumb3> thurbad, if i want to compile other kernel version using oe and bitbake what all steps do i have to follow?
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[07:00:11] <_av500_> NotTooDumb3: could you share your obsession with the omapfb driver with us please?
[07:00:26] <_av500_> the correct driver for the omap3 is called omap2
[07:00:33] <_av500_> just take that as a fact
[07:01:22] <NotTooDumb3> _av500_, Hi.does omap3 stand for omap3530?
[07:01:33] <_av500_> NotTooDumb3: please
[07:01:57] <NotTooDumb3> and 31 kernel version does not have anything like omap2, so does 31 does not boot up omapfb just like 31?
[07:01:59] <_av500_> i dont want to continue talking to you on that level
[07:02:25] <NotTooDumb3> _av500_, because 31 version does not have anything like omap2
[07:02:43] <_av500_> NotTooDumb3: try to understandthe difference between a "vanilla" kernel and a heavily patched one
[07:03:18] <NotTooDumb3> does omap2 come only in patches and not in vanilla package?
[07:03:37] <NotTooDumb3> and doesn't simpla omap fun on beagle board?
[07:03:49] <Russ> maybe you don't have enough versions
[07:03:59] <Russ> I CALL FOR A VERSION SACRIFICE
[07:04:14] <_av500_> NotTooDumb3: again, why do you need .31?????
[07:04:26] <_av500_> just use .32
[07:04:29] <_av500_> and be done
[07:05:12] <NotTooDumb3> i am given a omap/omapfb kind of driver and not omap2/omapfb kind of driver to TEST on bb
[07:05:30] <_av500_> so port it to .31
[07:05:32] <_av500_> so port it to .32
[07:05:34] <_av500_> .32
[07:05:58] <_av500_> all the time you waste on irc you could be reading source code
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[07:07:20] <NotTooDumb3> I went through source code, there is more diff bw omap and omap2 drivers
[07:07:28] <_av500_> sure there is
[07:07:44] <_av500_> NotTooDumb3: and what magic does your special driver do that is not in .32?
[07:07:45] <Russ> ...whats wrong with the mainline omap fb drive?
[07:07:47] <Russ> r
[07:08:14] <NotTooDumb3> not at all anything great, except that it
[07:08:23] <NotTooDumb3> s written by these people
[07:08:28] <_av500_> lol
[07:08:38] <Russ> man, the suspense was killing me
[07:08:43] <_av500_> maybe ask these people then
[07:08:50] <Russ> (aka, vendor?)
[07:09:03] * _av500_ goes to kindergarden to get some reason
[07:09:28] <Russ> does bluecat figure into this somehow?
[07:10:15] <NotTooDumb3> i replaced #S = "${WORKDIR}/git" with S = "${WORKDIR}/linux-2.6.31" in file beagleboard-test-scripts_git.bb and copied the 31 source code as a directory paralle to git in work. I expected 31 will get compiled with bitbake virtual/kernel, but infact it did not..is there much more to do than just this?
[07:10:34] <Russ> NotTooDumb3, who are "these people"?
[07:10:57] <NotTooDumb3> my office people
[07:11:24] <Russ> and so you are forced to make it work rather than use one that works out of the box?
[07:12:04] <NotTooDumb3> yes kind of,
[07:12:20] <Russ> that sucks
[07:12:41] <rv_bb> hey, if it means getting a paycheck its still better than nothing :)
[07:13:23] <Russ> If you are at the stage of not knowing where to start, I'm not sure what to tell you
[07:13:30] <NotTooDumb3> Russ, they say they have a working driver tested on DM6446, it
[07:13:43] <NotTooDumb3> s like that similar procedure has to be repeated on bb
[07:14:00] <Russ> but there is already a working fb driver for beagleboard
[07:14:27] <NotTooDumb3> Russ for getting 31 kernel version to work, i thought like this: i replaced #S = "${WORKDIR}/git" with S = "${WORKDIR}/linux-2.6.31" in file beagleboard-test-scripts_git.bb and copied the 31 source code as a directory paralle to git in work. I expected 31 will get compiled with bitbake virtual/kernel, but infact it did not..is there much more to do than just this?
[07:15:07] <NotTooDumb3> Russ, why is omap/omapfb driver replaced with omap2/omapfb..any reasons for that?
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[07:17:04] <Russ> I'm pretty sure the 31 stock kernel won't do everything you want and may not compile with the configuration specified by latest
[07:17:13] <Russ> and bitbake might be trying to apply patches, which would fail
[07:17:23] <Russ> the driver advances, it moves forward
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[07:17:30] <Russ> you can check the commit logs for more info
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[07:17:57] <Russ> I'm still confused as to why you wouldn't just use a version of the kernel that works and includes an fb driver that works
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[07:18:37] <Russ> especially since the alternative seems to involve you a) learning oe, b) learning kernel development, c) learning omap internals
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[07:21:32] <NotTooDumb3> Russ, as far as frame buffer architecture is concerned, are 31 and 32 very different?
[07:22:05] <Russ> I'm not aware of enormous differences
[07:22:19] <NotTooDumb3> ok..
[07:22:37] <Russ> but 2.6.31 is pretty old vs the omap2
[07:22:50] <Russ> it probably won't do everything you want it to do without patching
[07:23:01] <NotTooDumb3> oh..any idea if 31 omapfb works on bb at all?
[07:23:45] <Russ> don't know
[07:24:30] <NotTooDumb3> and omap on bb C3 i need to learn is omap353o right?
[07:25:36] <Russ> omap 3530, yes
[07:25:52] <NotTooDumb3> Russ, i do not need a full fledged driver, as i am not writing any applications, right now i need a simple one which just works is enough..so thinking of omap/omapfb instead of omap2/omapfb
[07:25:56] <Russ> your time would be much better served using a newer, supported kernel version
[07:26:08] <Russ> ...
[07:26:13] <Russ> because you think it is simpler?
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[07:26:44] <NotTooDumb3> yes kind of, and i am asked also is for simple driver not a full fledged one
[07:27:01] <NotTooDumb3> so 32 is the only supported kernel version?
[07:27:02] <Russ> you seem to be very confused then
[07:27:22] <Russ> all framebuffer drivers present themselves the same way to user applications
[07:27:52] <ds2> the plain old omapfb driver works just fine
[07:28:00] <NotTooDumb3> Russ, one qustion, so omap/omapfb is not used at all in 32? only omap2/omapfb is used now?
[07:28:16] <ds2> forget the silly omap2 driver it isn't there
[07:28:50] <NotTooDumb3> ds2 i would like to include plain old omapfb driver now in uImage, but by default omap2/omapfb is include which is more complicated
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[07:29:21] <NotTooDumb3> ds2, omap2fb is the one used in 32 version..
[07:29:45] <Neo_> Hi anybody working on Beagle board C2 version board?
[07:29:47] <NotTooDumb3> is there a way i can include omapfb and exclude omap2fb?
[07:29:54] <Russ> NotTooDumb3, can you explain what you mean by "more complicated"
[07:30:05] <NotTooDumb3> Neo_, i am working on C3, not sure if both are similar or not
[07:30:10] <Neo_> Hi anybody working on Beagle board C2 version board?
[07:31:10] <Neo_> I have H-JTAG which is 20-pin connector can I use the same for 14-pin JTAG connecter for beagle board with DS5 as IDE?
[07:31:13] <NotTooDumb3> Russ, i need a simple driver not a full fledged one, so planning to include omapfb and not omap2fb, it may not be complicated..
[07:31:33] <Neo_> I have H-JTAG which is 20-pin connector can I use the same for 14-pin JTAG connecter for beagle board with DS5 as IDE?
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[07:32:12] <NotTooDumb3> Neo_, dont ask twice, peole will read your question..and answer in a while if possible and if they know
[07:32:25] <NotTooDumb3> Russ, am i confusing you?
[07:32:30] <NotTooDumb3> be back..
[07:32:37] <Russ> NotTooDumb3, ds2 seems to think you should try the omapfb driver
[07:32:40] <NotTooDumb3> i mean i will be back
[07:32:43] <Russ> give it a go, see how it goes
[07:33:51] <NotTooDumb3> Russ, yes i just though that and replaced omap2/omapfb with omap/omapfb but there are lots of errors as there is difference in functions and code..i must do a sane replacement of omap2/omapfb with omap/omapfb..not sure where to do that change right nwo
[07:34:07] <Russ> wtf?
[07:34:14] <NotTooDumb3> meaning?
[07:34:17] <NotTooDumb3> ok..
[07:34:42] <Russ> the patients leg was bothering him, so I chopped off some limbs, moved them around...
[07:34:55] <Russ> why don't you just select the omapfb in the kernel configuration?
[07:35:11] <NotTooDumb3> yes just got that idea..i will do that in config or make file
[07:35:23] <Russ> whichever way is best for oe
[07:35:28] <Neo_> hi 'Not too Dum3' - Can you advise me on this.. for using 14-pin JTAG with 20-pin H-JTAG?
[07:35:34] <ds2> pick one and run with it.
[07:35:42] <ds2> they both work just fine.
[07:35:57] <NotTooDumb3> Neo_, i seriously dont have an idea..i am not using JTAG and did not use it recently
[07:36:10] <NotTooDumb3> ds2, i will..thanks
[07:36:26] <ds2> oe can use anything. write a recipe. it is just a text file
[07:36:26] <Neo_> ds2, can you help me?
[07:36:34] <ds2> or chuck OE
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[07:37:11] <NotTooDumb3> ds2, can't i just edit the Makefile of source code? is that not suggested??
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[07:44:56] <ds2> it is open source, you can do whatever you want
[07:45:12] <ds2> if you make binaries and redistribute it, provide source.
[07:45:25] <ds2> read the license file for details.
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[07:48:08] <tasslehoff> I'm pulling in some code from a/the TI Android kernel to see if I can get poweroff/sleep to work on our beagleinspired board. It has an i2c driver called twl4030-poweroff.c that looks usable, and some generic power scripts that I suspect are the ones koen said did not work for the beagle. Anyone know what didn't work, or even better, anyone have scripts that *do* work?
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[08:09:39] <av500> tasslehoff: we do :)
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[08:11:38] <tasslehoff> av500: hehe. deja vu :)
[08:13:03] <tasslehoff> av500: I took a quick look at the differences between tps65920 and tps65921 yesterday, and thought (guessed) they were so much different that I couldn't just grab one of your scripts.
[08:13:25] <tasslehoff> but, perhaps I should just try :)
[08:17:03] <av500> tasslehoff: I think that the only diff is that one of them has an audio codec inside
[08:17:19] <av500> since we do not believe in TI audio any more, we used the one without...
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[08:17:56] <tasslehoff> av500: we don't believe in audio at all :)
[08:18:01] <thurbad> lol
[08:20:47] <av500> http://www.motherboardpoint.com/ti-aic31-codec-t96901.html
[08:21:23] <av500> with this codec we had to add a constant offset to the audio samples to keep the codec away from 0
[08:22:36] <ds2> the triton is a FINE codec
[08:23:03] <av500> yes, it supplies power to the omap3 almost fine
[08:23:12] <ds2> does it not encode your audio and decode it? ;)
[08:23:23] <av500> except that it is unable to run an omap3 at full steam
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[08:27:08] <woglinde> gm
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[08:37:46] <thurbad> quick question, if there's an audio driver listed as available by TI for linux alsa, would that also work for linux pulseaudio?
[08:38:20] <woglinde> ?
[08:38:28] <woglinde> when you have alsa
[08:38:31] <woglinde> you have pulse
[08:38:41] <woglinde> you only need to configure it
[08:38:55] <thurbad> ah, ok... thanks
[08:39:58] <thurbad> I have pulseaudio configured with a beagle but our beagle based spinoff is using a different codec
[08:40:36] <thurbad> don't have the board in my hands yet to test with
[08:40:46] <woglinde> ?
[08:40:58] <woglinde> so why you dont ask later?
[08:41:04] <woglinde> when you have a board
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[08:43:04] <thurbad> It's nice to have a little foreknowledge of what I'm getting into before looking at it and saying, gee this won't work
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[08:43:13] <woglinde> read the pulse wiki
[08:43:26] <woglinde> oh .38 released
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[08:43:52] <thurbad> I've read parts of it.. that's how I got it working in the first place
[08:44:19] <spot_> can I use the Beagleboard-xM to perform raw networking operations? is there currently a libpcap port for Angstrom / possibly other distros that may run on it?
[08:45:15] <woglinde> spot_ there is libpcap
[08:45:38] <thurbad> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/
[08:46:01] <thurbad> can check available packages there
[08:46:32] <spot_> woglinde: thanks alot
[08:46:50] <spot_> thurbad: the URL is broken
[08:47:10] <woglinde> btw. raw networksoperation I would with the kernel networkpacket generator
[08:47:18] <woglinde> hm but may libpcap wraps that
[08:47:25] <thurbad> seriously? I'm looking at it now, although it's been under heavy traffic for a while
[08:47:33] <woglinde> yeah
[08:47:37] <woglinde> stupid android stuff
[08:48:07] <spot_> thurbad: it's up again, thx
[08:48:07] <thurbad> who's hosting that android app?
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[09:06:05] <rick_> hi, how is your nand read speed?
[09:08:56] <woglinde> rick depends on the card
[09:09:29] <av500> woglinde: i think he means the revC3/C4 onboard nand
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[09:09:34] <thurbad> I think he means the built in nand
[09:09:43] <tasslehoff> av500: I'll be damned. Held the power button for 8 seconds and it rebooted in a very hard way :)
[09:09:47] <thurbad> on thee non xM boards =)
[09:10:26] <av500> tasslehoff: yes, thats a nice feature
[09:11:03] <thurbad> power button? custom board with power management added?
[09:11:35] <av500> yup
[09:11:54] <woglinde> av500 ah hm
[09:12:08] <woglinde> av500 btw. got it run yesterday
[09:12:14] <woglinde> with preempt
[09:12:19] <woglinde> aeh without
[09:12:21] <woglinde> args
[09:12:34] <av500> and what was the fix?
[09:13:38] <woglinde> disable preempt
[09:13:43] <av500> ah
[09:13:44] <woglinde> the fix from sakoman didnt worked
[09:13:50] <woglinde> and didnt looked at the date
[09:14:01] <woglinde> so I confused it with the other thread some days ago
[09:17:15] <GGuyZ> Has anyone been able to get wifi working on the newest angstrom demo? It worked on the older version, but not on the new one
[09:17:33] <woglinde> ?
[09:18:07] <av500> GGuyZ: did you get gst going?
[09:18:10] <av500> and the dsp foo?
[09:18:34] <woglinde> av500 hm I got the loop displing running once
[09:18:49] <woglinde> after that all other dsp stuff didnt worked anymore
[09:19:01] <tasslehoff> av500: what commands do you have to put your board in sleep and to make it shutdown? I've apparently gotten myself a pm_power_off routine, but I have no pm-commands yet.
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[09:19:53] <GGuyZ> av500: I got some progress just now. gst finally launched a display window and starts decoding frames using the dsp, but for some very odd reason all I see is a green screen with occasional colorful pixels. Obviously it fails/cannot decode
[09:20:57] <thurbad> are you using the bigbuckbunny example?
[09:20:58] <koen> GGuyZ: sounds like the "framesize too big" problem
[09:21:00] <GGuyZ> It might be that the demo image doesn't really have the codecs installed properly?
[09:21:05] <rick_> woglinde, I only have 1.x MiB /s ...so sad...
[09:21:13] <GGuyZ> Yes, the good old Big Bunny
[09:21:29] <rick_> still trying to tune the GPMC_CONFIGx register
[09:21:34] <woglinde> rick is nand faster?
[09:21:44] <rick_> but not too much improvement...
[09:21:53] <GGuyZ> koen: How can I change/override it?
[09:22:10] <rick_> woglinde, I don't know, I am playing with nand the 1st time :)
[09:22:40] <av500> koen: it's funny how fast you can name all the bugs :)
[09:22:50] <rick_> but by googling the nand performance...it seems 3Mib/sec is reasonable...
[09:23:03] <woglinde> rick so 1 is good
[09:23:11] <koen> av500: sadly, yes
[09:24:30] <rick_> woglinde, I want to improve the read speed of NAND under DM3730
[09:25:00] <woglinde> rick_ hm and you are a nand expert?
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[09:25:13] <GGuyZ> So what can I do about it? :)
[09:25:29] <av500> GGuyZ: edit source code?
[09:25:32] <woglinde> GGuyZ use another video
[09:25:42] <ynezz> use another SOC
[09:25:47] <woglinde> lol
[09:25:47] <av500> or get used to the green frames :)
[09:25:57] <rick_> woglinde, unfortunately NO...:( I just started to learn about NAND and DM3730
[09:26:44] <woglinde> rick_ what board you have?
[09:26:57] <GGuyZ> What I mean is, if the bigbuckbunny works on a purely ARM accelerated solution such as ffmpeg, why is it too 'hard' for the DSP?
[09:27:07] <av500> its not hard
[09:27:09] <GGuyZ> It should be the other way around, and obviously I'm referring to SD content here
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[09:27:18] <av500> if the input buffer sizes are too small, it will fail nonetheless
[09:27:39] <rick_> our own board....so I just want to know the read speed of NAND on beagle revB or C
[09:27:54] <rick_> Maybe it's a good baseline
[09:27:56] <thurbad> I thought there was a working gst in the demo image with bigbuckbunny
[09:28:35] * av500 thinks we need mplayer or vlc with dsp support badly
[09:28:42] <av500> woglinde: you game?
[09:28:42] <woglinde> *g*
[09:28:56] <thurbad> lol
[09:29:05] <woglinde> didnt you say vlc has it
[09:29:08] <GGuyZ> So, the BigBuckBunny demo doesn't really work on the dsp?
[09:29:10] <woglinde> ah yeah zerocopy
[09:29:14] <av500> GGuyZ: I have no idea
[09:29:24] <av500> i never used gst and the dsp foo
[09:29:27] <av500> too many wrappers
[09:29:29] <GGuyZ> I see
[09:29:44] <woglinde> av500 I will now test again codec-engine stuff
[09:29:48] <GGuyZ> By input buffers are you referring to the ones allocated on the vram?
[09:29:51] <tasslehoff> koen: you mentioned all the needed pm patches from linux-omap-pm are also in linux-omap-psp. is there an "opkg install" I can do to get the pm commands? the kernel seems to be configured for suspend and standby.
[09:29:55] <av500> GGuyZ: cmem
[09:31:15] <GGuyZ> I see..
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[09:32:24] <woglinde> koen is the mem= kernel option for .37 the same or do I need other settings to get the dsp run?
[09:32:49] <av500> the hole should be in the same place
[09:32:56] <av500> the 2nd mem should have 256 added, no?
[09:33:05] <woglinde> ?
[09:33:12] <woglinde> I have rev b4 128mb
[09:33:19] <av500> :)
[09:33:25] <thurbad> ouchies
[09:33:41] <av500> woglinde: and nobody from TI managed to upgrade you?
[09:33:48] * av500 glares at koen
[09:33:56] <woglinde> av500 I didnt asked
[09:34:02] <av500> woglinde: do the gsoc and you will get an XM :)
[09:35:33] <woglinde> damn it
[09:35:44] * av500 dams *it*
[09:35:45] <woglinde> after the dsplink loop example
[09:35:53] <woglinde> the dsp errors
[09:36:17] <av500> woglinde: lpm power cycle
[09:36:23] <av500> lpm off, lpm on
[09:36:45] <woglinde> but why the loop example works?
[09:36:51] <av500> beats me
[09:37:00] <av500> but I have seen such things reported in the past
[09:37:30] <GGuyZ> Anyway, on a different topic. Has anyone had problems with the newer angstrom image and wifi? My belkin works fine on the demo image from 2010
[09:37:34] <av500> dsp errors doing what?
[09:37:47] <woglinde> [ 120.264617] DSP-side configuration mismatch/failure
[09:38:00] <GGuyZ> On the one from 2011, Nothing. I can see that the kernel recognizes the device, but it doesn't configure (or allow me to configure) wlan0
[09:38:00] <woglinde> will run now with debug
[09:38:01] <GGuyZ> or usb0
[09:38:17] <av500> firmware loading needed?
[09:38:34] <thurbad> GGuyZ, the rt73 based belkin G?
[09:38:54] <woglinde> gguyz check dmesg
[09:39:01] <woglinde> it will tell you the failure
[09:39:13] <woglinde> if there is no failure install the kernel module
[09:39:34] <thurbad> additionally, does lsmod show the rt73usb module is loaded?
[09:40:00] <GGuyZ> thurbad: I believe so..
[09:40:02] <woglinde> av500 in which package is lpm?
[09:40:04] <GGuyZ> the f5d7050
[09:40:17] <GGuyZ> thurbad: I will check that in a minute
[09:40:17] <av500> 0x0f5d7050?
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[09:40:48] <GGuyZ> av500: that's the actual part name :)
[09:41:12] <GGuyZ> woglinde: I'm not sure about the kernel module yet, but dmesg doesn't give an error. It recognizes the belkin adapter
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[09:41:55] <woglinde> gguyz lsmod
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[09:42:18] <woglinde> gguyz does dmesg says it loaded firmware?
[09:42:22] <NotTooDumb3> ds2, to use omapfb instead of omap2fb, i edited the main Main Makefile obj-y=omap2/ to obj-y=omap/, are there other things to do too?
[09:42:41] <woglinde> hm I think ds2 is at sleep now
[09:42:50] <NotTooDumb3> oh..ok
[09:42:56] <woglinde> westcoast
[09:43:32] <av500> NotTooDumb3: you are going the wrong way
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[09:45:02] <NotTooDumb3> is it? is it not easy to use omapfb? quality is not what i want now..why are you saying me i am going wrong? all that i am asked to do is testing on 31, and omapfb is more similar to 31's fb than omap2..
[09:45:19] <woglinde> hm ah ti-lpm-utils
[09:45:20] <GGuyZ> woglinde: rt73 isn't loaded. and it is loaded on the older version of the demo image, so that's the problem I guess
[09:45:36] <woglinde> as I said install the driver
[09:45:51] <av500> woglinde: paste a log with CE_DEBUG=2
[09:46:00] <av500> or better 2 logs, one with fail one that works
[09:46:09] <woglinde> av500 funny think there is not more debug output
[09:46:20] <woglinde> but I will install lpm now
[09:46:28] <av500> it was not installed?
[09:46:45] <av500> you mean the utils?
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[09:48:29] <aholler_> NotTooDumb3: use igafb
[09:48:36] <woglinde> av500 no
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[09:48:46] <av500> NotTooDumb3: again, what are you trying to achieve?
[09:49:14] <GGuyZ> woglinde: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?pkgname=rt73-firmware ?
[09:49:16] <GGuyZ> This one?
[09:49:29] <thurbad> that's the firmware
[09:49:58] <thurbad> you need the kernel-module-rt73usb as well, and a few modules that it depends on
[09:50:11] <NotTooDumb3> av500, i want to be able to run a fb more similar to that of 31 version if not 31 version as such, so trying to load omapfb insteadof omap2fb for that
[09:50:37] <av500> change the kernel config then
[09:51:08] <woglinde> av500 ah sigh it was installed
[09:51:09] <NotTooDumb3> i changed makefile..i understood .config is something that gets generated..i might be wrong
[09:51:15] <woglinde> but not linked to any bin dir
[09:52:20] <thurbad> GGuyZ, is there WPA encryption on your wirless router?
[09:52:45] <GGuyZ> Yes there is
[09:53:06] <thurbad> you'll need a few other things to connect to i then ~.~
[09:53:13] <av500> NotTooDumb3: dont change the makefile
[09:53:23] <av500> use google to find out how linux kernels are "configured"
[09:53:24] <woglinde> hm okay seems the message examples kills the dsp
[09:53:39] <NotTooDumb3> av500, ok i will not change Makefile
[09:53:41] <GGuyZ> thurbad: The ting is, I thought the demo image contains all of them. It did on an earlier release
[09:53:54] <GGuyZ> I will use narcissus to build a custom image with those deps
[09:54:04] <GGuyZ> I hope that'd work, or atleast get rid of some of the stuff
[09:54:25] <GGuyZ> ting=thing
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[09:57:11] <thurbad> what's the current kernel version in narcissus? is it still at 2.6.32?
[09:58:35] <woglinde> hm hm
[10:00:40] <woglinde> thurbad yes
[10:06:46] <woglinde> hm I will build now an imager with narcissus
[10:08:28] <woglinde> hm or test the demo
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[10:13:22] <woglinde> GGuyZ is the dsp stuff on the demo image?
[10:13:35] <av500> should
[10:13:41] <GGuyZ> Yes
[10:13:45] <woglinde> okay
[10:13:47] <woglinde> thanks
[10:14:00] <GGuyZ> Works quite well I guess, just not for me :)
[10:14:16] <woglinde> why?
[10:14:56] <woglinde> loads with 12k
[10:16:09] <NotTooDumb3> av500, in make menuconfig -> Device drivers -> Graphics Support -> after that i am getting lost..I will search more anyway
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[10:18:36] <woglinde> GGuyZ what was your problem with the demoiamge?
[10:23:53] <NotTooDumb3> why is this line there in video/drivers/omap/Makefile obj-$(CONFIG_FB_OMAP) += omapfb.o when there is no file name omapfb.c in that directory?any idea??
[10:25:53] <av500> video/drivers does not exist
[10:27:19] <NotTooDumb3> sorry it's video/omap/
[10:27:21] <av500> hint: omapfb-objs := $(objs-yy)
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[10:27:42] <av500> and again, leave the makefile alone
[10:28:00] <NotTooDumb3> i am not editing..trying to understand how it builds
[10:28:09] <NotTooDumb3> i am searching in menuconfig now
[10:28:26] <NotTooDumb3> av500, that's the last line in video/omap/Makefile
[10:28:32] <av500> indeed
[10:28:33] <thurbad> you'll need to define CONFIG_FB_OMAP
[10:29:13] <av500> NotTooDumb3: but why on earth do you want to use that old and obsolete framebuffer driver?
[10:29:48] <tasslehoff> Should I automatically have pm-suspend and friends if I have a power management capable kernel?
[10:30:16] <NotTooDumb3> av500, i am asked to do so as i had to make 31 to work and not 32 version
[10:30:19] <drakkan1000> woglinde, Hi I compiled mono myself, thanks anyway for your help
[10:30:34] <thurbad> I think the curretn fb driver hasn't changed since 2.6.29 or so
[10:30:51] <woglinde> drakkan1000 I helped you?
[10:30:54] <woglinde> strange
[10:31:24] <av500> NotTooDumb3: you still want to run .31 on the beagle?
[10:31:31] <NotTooDumb3> thurbad, it's already defined to omap/ obj-$(CONFIG_FB_OMAP) += omap/ obj-y += omap2/ is the actual Makefile, i tried once withobj-y += omap/ with no success
[10:31:38] <drakkan1000> woglinde, your support offer made yesterday I mean
[10:31:45] <woglinde> lol
[10:31:50] <woglinde> that was for fun
[10:31:51] <woglinde> ;)
[10:32:05] <NotTooDumb3> av500, If not 31, atleast omapfb, i know they are obsolete but still..
[10:32:06] <woglinde> sorry seems I have to made it mor sarcastic
[10:32:20] <woglinde> and again I will not touch anything with mono
[10:32:25] <av500> NotTooDumb3: but why??????
[10:32:28] <thurbad> NotTooDumb3 that's not defining it, that's setting something else using the value that's already defined
[10:32:39] <woglinde> until I got enoughmoney for the pain
[10:32:43] <NotTooDumb3> thurbad, there is a better frame buffer driver in 32 named omapfb2 compared to 31 itself, i dont know about 29
[10:33:24] <av500> NotTooDumb3: the name is OMAP2_DSS also known as just "DSS2"
[10:33:28] <thurbad> it should be the same dss2 driver
[10:33:33] <drakkan1000> woglinde, I did it for a small amount of money and 2 days of pain, bye :-)
[10:33:42] <NotTooDumb3> av500, ok we have a tool which generates device drivers, and generated driver we are testing on different boards to get confidence, as part of that i am asked to test fb on bb
[10:33:49] <av500> thurbad: his vanilla .31 does not have the dss2 stuff patched in
[10:33:59] <woglinde> drakkan1000 hm would be nice when patches come to oe
[10:34:02] <thurbad> ah
[10:34:06] <woglinde> but thats up to you
[10:34:16] <thurbad> sorry if I added any confusion then
[10:34:21] <av500> NotTooDumb3: but if you have a tool that "generates device drivers", then just let it generate one
[10:34:31] <av500> :)
[10:34:43] * av500 remember the l33t website now
[10:34:55] <woglinde> so lets see if the oe u-boot contains the usb serial console stuff from sakoman
[10:35:22] <NotTooDumb3> av500, problem is tool knows about generating fb for 31 version
[10:35:37] <av500> mighty usefull tool
[10:35:44] <woglinde> NotTooDumb3 so what are you doing now?
[10:35:54] <woglinde> porting the rt-patches to .32?
[10:36:00] <av500> woglinde: not rt
[10:36:02] <woglinde> or porting .32 back to .31
[10:36:06] <av500> that was somebody else
[10:37:27] <NotTooDumb3> woglinde, i wanted to see if the tool generated driver works for 32, but omap2fb is very different so wanted to run omapfb once so that next i can be able to test tool generated driver..
[10:37:48] <woglinde> a tool thats generates driver?
[10:37:50] <woglinde> wow
[10:37:55] <NotTooDumb3> av500, i know..not upto date tool..!
[10:38:02] <woglinde> thats something for grek
[10:38:23] <av500> NotTooDumb3: if your tool generates a driver, what do you care about the existing driver in the kernel?
[10:38:34] <woglinde> hrms why is sakomans git so slow
[10:38:50] <av500> its in the mountains
[10:39:12] <NotTooDumb3> av500, tool generates for 31 version, and till now i did not bringup bb with 31 version..
[10:39:32] <drakkan1000> woglinde, I'll post my procedure somewhere however, libgdiplus is not present in angstrom and it is needed for winforms I compiled it manually on my device. Most of the rest of the work was done manually (when compiling mono from source make succedeed but make install fails a real pain) and finally I copied libMonoPosixHelper.so from ubuntu arm port, so no recipe is available
[10:39:34] <av500> and did you try to add your autogenerated driver to .32?
[10:39:49] <woglinde> drakkan1000 hm I feared that
[10:39:51] <NotTooDumb3> woglinde, yes trying with the tool and may decide to buy that later..not sure
[10:40:08] <woglinde> but we have now .38
[10:40:16] <woglinde> the tool can only do .31
[10:40:21] <woglinde> I wouldnt buy it
[10:40:34] <NotTooDumb3> they will improve it to later versions they told
[10:40:35] <av500> woglinde: nobody would
[10:40:44] <av500> NotTooDumb3: and did you try to add your autogenerated driver to .32?
[10:40:44] <woglinde> haha
[10:40:46] <NotTooDumb3> oh..
[10:40:53] <NotTooDumb3> av500, no
[10:40:56] <woglinde> lol
[10:40:59] <av500> because?
[10:41:00] <woglinde> yeah the promised
[10:41:11] <woglinde> when they are ready for .38 we have 45
[10:41:12] <NotTooDumb3> i have to read omap3530 data sheet and give register contents to generate it
[10:41:13] <woglinde> thats it
[10:41:54] <av500> NotTooDumb3: the registers are the same for .31 and .32
[10:42:04] <woglinde> *g*
[10:42:36] <av500> NotTooDumb3: can you link to an example of such an autogenerated driver?
[10:42:55] <NotTooDumb3> 31 or 32 for bb needs to be done newly now, 31 for dm6446 was tested it seems
[10:43:07] <NotTooDumb3> av500, 1 sec
[10:43:24] <av500> NotTooDumb3: and, why does one need to autogenerate drivers for omapfb, they exist already in linux.....
[10:43:49] <NotTooDumb3> av500, i do not have link for auto geneated driver...tool is the same link you posted on that day about vayavya whose help you suggested me to take
[10:44:17] <woglinde> hm yeah I dont understand at all what you gain from the tool
[10:44:21] <NotTooDumb3> av500, tool is generalized for all drivers, not only omapfb
[10:44:33] <av500> bullshit
[10:44:33] <thurbad> probably some sort of learning tool for a hardware course
[10:44:44] <NotTooDumb3> woglinde, reducing the time taken, that's what my manager says
[10:44:46] <av500> NotTooDumb3: what does this tool produce?
[10:44:47] <woglinde> and what you will do with the tool in the end
[10:44:48] <av500> source code?
[10:45:08] <NotTooDumb3> yes we get source code,
[10:45:16] <woglinde> reducing the time would be hire someone which is familiar with linux kernel driver coding
[10:45:23] <NotTooDumb3> we give as input just reg configurations and kernel details
[10:45:32] <NotTooDumb3> woglinde, true
[10:45:43] <thurbad> or using the existing dss2 :)
[10:46:06] <woglinde> NotTooDumb3 how many hw you have that none driver exist for?
[10:46:09] <av500> woglinde: see and staune: http://vayavyalabs.com/products/technology
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[10:47:06] <woglinde> hm 8 job offers
[10:47:09] <woglinde> so no wonder
[10:47:24] <av500> apply
[10:47:30] <woglinde> no thanks
[10:47:55] <av500> NotTooDumb3: sorry, but I really have a hard time taking you and that stuff seriously
[10:48:21] <NotTooDumb3> np..it's not mine anyway
[10:49:09] <NotTooDumb3> can anyone tell me the link to omap3530 datasheet?
[10:49:17] <woglinde> lol
[10:49:27] <woglinde> isntit on beagle.org?
[10:49:34] <av500> NotTooDumb3: have you ever used google?
[10:49:53] <av500> (successfully)
[10:50:05] <NotTooDumb3> got it sorry
[10:50:09] <av500> plonk
[10:55:17] <NotTooDumb3> doesn't the tool appear interesting for you people?
[10:59:17] <aholler> your company should offer that ti
[10:59:29] <NotTooDumb3> what?
[10:59:37] <NotTooDumb3> that to ti?
[10:59:45] <woglinde> nottoodumb3 ask Greg Kroah-Hartman about it
[11:00:22] <NotTooDumb3> that's not our company's tool...our company does services to big companies which are planning to buy that tool it seems..so we got it to test
[11:00:23] <thurbad> honestly... the specifications that you have to write look harder to learn than C
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[11:00:59] <NotTooDumb3> oh..that's my next work..i too do not know how to write those specifications..
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[11:01:50] <thurbad> it looks more like a translator than a generator, if you're being picky about nomenclature
[11:02:18] <NotTooDumb3> oh..! may be
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[11:03:42] <woglinde> hm is there an trick so u-boot dont loads the env stuff from nand?
[11:04:43] <woglinde> ah found it
[11:04:45] <woglinde> good
[11:04:49] <thurbad> woglinde, provide alternatives in your boot scripts?
[11:05:02] <woglinde> thurbad no
[11:05:10] <woglinde> its #define CONFIG_ENV_IS_IN_NAND 1
[11:05:39] <thurbad> ah, you're trying to skip it altogether?
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[11:06:17] <woglinde> I need it for my beagle with broken serial
[11:06:23] <woglinde> so the uboot serial might works
[11:16:51] <NotTooDumb3> thurbad, did you try using omapfb instead of omap2fb? is what i did incomplete when i tried through makefile?
[11:17:32] <thurbad> nope, haven't tried
[11:17:50] <thurbad> but the makefile will get regenerated
[11:18:17] <NotTooDumb3> i dont think so..
[11:24:01] <NotTooDumb3> it's the config file that gets regenerated, not Makefile right? Makefile stays fixed uless we change it
[11:24:08] <koen> NotTooDumb3: why do you want to use DSS1?
[11:24:22] <woglinde> koen because of the special tool
[11:24:48] <woglinde> which magical writes device drivers
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[11:25:57] <aholler> someone should make a movie out of that
[11:26:37] <NotTooDumb3> koen, i am asked to bring up 31 version on beagle board..i thought omapfb is more or less similar to 31's driver than omap2fb so wanted to try running that once
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[11:35:56] <NotTooDumb3> is this not omap3530 datasheet? no registers listed in this..http://focus.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/omap3530.pdf?DCMP=dsps_omap3530prf__090819&HQS=Other+OT+OMAP3530perf-increase-prdatash
[11:36:02] <hitlin37> why there's not any new activity on gnu radio on xm/panda
[11:39:45] <koen> hitlin37: like https://github.com/balister/GNU-Radio ?
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[11:41:00] <koen> NotTooDumb3: are you *sure* you want to port .31 to beagle?
[11:41:58] <NotTooDumb3> koen, yes..
[11:42:41] <NotTooDumb3> or i want to run omapfb instead of omap2fb on 32 once...whichever is easier
[11:43:24] <ynezz> oh, dejavu?
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[11:45:39] <NotTooDumb3> what is this dejavu
[11:48:25] <woglinde> I decided now for mental ignore
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[11:57:09] <koen> NotTooDumb3: so you really want to port over the >1000 patches added to the .32 kernel for omap3 to .31?
[11:57:51] <NotTooDumb3> oh..no..i am myself confused how to go about doing this task
[11:58:45] <NotTooDumb3> koen, if not very good omap2 fb, does omapfb need all patches for bringing up beagle board for 32 or 31 kernel versions?
[12:00:00] <NotTooDumb3> and for all other drivers also, i do not need very good up to date drivers, just any working drivers will do for me, and only thing i am bothered about now is omapfb driver and no other drivers
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[12:02:04] <NotTooDumb3> koen, i wil be back on irc after a while..
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[12:04:14] <woglinde> o.O
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[12:09:29] <woglinde> juhu
[12:09:47] <woglinde> my beagle with broken serial works now over usb serial
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[12:10:45] <woglinde> time for lunch
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[12:46:37] <tasslehoff> koen: (how) can I get pm-utils in angstrom? I see posts about people running pm-suspend, but I don't have that command.
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[12:49:45] <tasslehoff> hm. I suspect maybe I need the pm-kernel after all to get this.
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[12:55:49] <aholler> try .38 or have a look at the linux-arm-ml, I've seen many pm-related patches there
[12:57:06] <av500> did they finally settle on a pm framework for mainline?
[12:57:14] <av500> there were so many....
[12:57:43] <jkridner> sorry for not getting a meeting notice out for GSoC today yet. I think I may need to move it to tomorrow.
[12:57:48] <av500> tasslehoff: maybe you can ask the guy to auto generate you a pm driver?
[12:57:51] <aholler> don't know, but .38 contains a smartreflex-config-item
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[12:58:20] <mru> aholler: SR has been coming and going in various forms and tress for a long time
[12:58:28] <tasslehoff> av500: great idea :D
[12:58:35] <aholler> mru: yes, seen that before
[12:59:04] <mru> and trees of course
[12:59:23] <aholler> but I assume I've seen it only a some patched-version, maybe linux-omap, and not in the mainline
[12:59:36] <tasslehoff> av500: which kernel version do your power managing devices use?
[12:59:45] <av500> tasslehoff: atm .29
[12:59:53] <mru> aholler: I've only used linux-omap or more patched versions
[12:59:56] <av500> for what is in production
[12:59:58] <tasslehoff> so, the pm-commands should appear by themselves if I have a proper kernel support?
[13:00:05] <av500> tasslehoff: commands?
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[13:00:23] <aholler> mru: sinc .37 im fine with the mainline
[13:00:24] <av500> tasslehoff: remember, its evil android and wakelocks and opporunistic suspend
[13:00:27] <av500> all bah
[13:00:38] <av500> +t
[13:00:58] <mru> suspend blockers ftw
[13:01:04] <av500> +1
[13:01:20] <bilal> dear friends, i just want to install D-link DWA110 wireless device, but i am using the Angstrom in Beagleboard,
[13:01:33] <av500> ah, the anomalies guy is back on the ML
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[13:01:53] <aholler> bilal: .37 and .38 contains the driver in the staging area
[13:02:22] <bilal> what is the command "make " or "make install " in Angtrom
[13:02:46] <bilal> these commands does not work in Ansgtrom
[13:03:18] <tasslehoff> I compile .32 on OE, and I can't find out how to put my board to sleep, or how to power it off so that the pm_power_off function is ran.
[13:04:38] <bilal> in my opinion, "make" and "make install" commands are only valid in ubuntu
[13:04:58] <mru> wtf
[13:05:00] <av500> yes, mark wrote them himself
[13:05:23] <av500> when he was on the ISS
[13:05:26] <av500> and bored
[13:09:34] <aholler> doesn't oe install man-pages?
[13:11:13] <av500> only ubunut
[13:11:40] <woglinde> bilal find out the chipset and just install the kernel module and maybee firmware
[13:11:50] <woglinde> aholler not per default
[13:12:03] <woglinde> manpages are in -doc package
[13:14:43] <bilal> beagleboard has no internet connection, i have packages but i cannot install the driver manually
[13:16:12] <bilal> i did something but, for example to run the directory "make" command is needed, it is not working in angstrom
[13:19:05] <bilal> what may the corrensponding command of "make install" be?
[13:19:42] <bilal> for example "sudo" corresponds to "su "command in Angstrom
[13:19:50] <aholler> wrong
[13:20:06] <bilal> why
[13:20:22] <aholler> install sudo and you will have sudo, install make and you will have make
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[13:20:47] <aholler> and don't forget to install the compiler and whatever else is needed
[13:21:06] <aholler> so try to get a binary if you don't have network
[13:21:32] <av500> bilal: use the online builder and create an image that has all that you need
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[13:23:30] <bilal> ok i will try
[13:23:37] <aholler> bilal: you could use network over usb to get network. ask google how
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[13:34:22] <woglinde> bilal do you have a sd-card?
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[14:52:53] <HokieTux> pong
[14:53:05] <HokieTux> I have no idea who pinged me
[14:53:09] <HokieTux> I was traveling for 4-5 days
[14:53:14] <HokieTux> but someone pinged me at some point, hah
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[14:58:53] <muriani> HokieTux: and by now the entry in your lastlog is loooooooong gone :P
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[14:59:31] <HokieTux> muriani: hahah, yup!
[14:59:47] <HokieTux> hopefully it wasn't important
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[15:22:08] <ynezz> koen: http://pastebin.com/R9EvUXGc look what an art :p
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[15:24:57] <ynezz> DISTRO = "angstrom-2011.3-maintenance"
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[15:25:07] <ynezz> "just 3 easy steps"
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[15:29:14] <koen> ynezz: how did you do that?
[15:30:05] <av500> do what?
[15:30:39] <koen> get that as distro value
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[15:50:23] <NotTooDumb3> koen, Hi..reg. loading 31 version on beagle board, I am getting confused what to do next..
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[15:54:19] <NotTooDumb2> ynezz, are you trying to bring up beagle board with angstrom demo image?
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[16:08:38] <koen> mru: diego says 0.7 is scheduled Real Soon(TM), but putting on asbestos underwear is taking too much time lately
[16:16:40] <cwillu_at_work> what's new and exciting?
[16:16:51] <Russ> onfi 3.0
[16:17:03] * cwillu_at_work googles
[16:17:38] * cwillu_at_work is unsatisfied
[16:17:48] <Russ> 400MT/s!
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[16:28:44] * koen resists responding with "yes, till I turn the lights on"
[16:30:51] <thomas___> hello, I have a problem with Angstrom on my beagleboard xm. I created a build using the online builder and the dvi output is not always working. When i manually add "setenv dvimode 640x480MR-16@60" it sometimes works but if I reboot the board and do exactly the same I doesn't. Is there an explanation ?
[16:34:26] <aholler> try without MR
[16:35:10] <thomas___> Ok, what does MR stand for ?
[16:35:28] <mru> my initials
[16:35:34] <mru> it only works after you buy me a beer
[16:35:40] <thomas___> :)
[16:37:05] <thomas___> ok this time it works. let's try again :)
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[16:41:52] <thomas___> Ok it works. 3 times out of 3 with different resolutions
[16:43:13] <woglinde> ?
[16:44:19] <aholler> hit those people who are sggesting MR ;)
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[16:44:43] <thomas___> but what is it ?
[16:45:23] <mru> R means reduced blanking
[16:45:24] <aholler> less /usr/src/linux/Documentation/arm/OMAP/DSS
[16:45:27] <mru> don't know what the M is
[16:45:37] <mru> reduced blanking tends not to work with TVs
[16:45:58] <mru> they need the blanking interval for the audio
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[16:46:36] <thomas___> an other question, is there a speed differents between 16 bits and 32 bits colors (for the cpu I mean) ?
[16:46:37] * mru wonders how long it'll be before the old crt terminology dies
[16:46:57] <mru> 32 bits needs twice as much memory
[16:47:05] <mru> and hence twice as much memory bandwidth
[16:47:24] <mru> it doesn't make a difference for the monitor
[16:48:42] <thomas___> is it worth it ? Or is 16 bits enought
[16:48:42] <thomas___> ?
[16:48:51] <mru> depends on your needs
[16:49:03] <av500> 16 bit is ugly for photos and videos
[16:49:03] <mru> for photo editing you absolutely need it
[16:49:14] <mru> av500: it doesn't matter for videos
[16:49:19] <mru> they use overlay anyway
[16:49:25] <av500> if they do :)
[16:49:34] <av500> mplayer -vo x11
[16:49:36] <av500> :)
[16:49:37] <mru> if they don't you have bigger problems
[16:49:47] <mru> as in s/video/slideshow/
[16:50:04] <av500> 15fps ftq
[16:50:07] <av500> ftw even
[16:50:25] <mru> old film was 18fps, no?
[16:50:44] <woglinde> av500 I do mplayer -vo vaapi
[16:50:52] <mru> woglinde: on beagle?
[16:50:58] <woglinde> *g*
[16:51:18] <woglinde> mru gsoc project wrapper of codecs to vaapi?
[16:51:24] <thomas___> ok so 24 is good enought for videos and eventualy pictures and still cheap on memory ?
[16:51:58] * woglinde builds .32 kernel now with gadet compostie
[16:52:03] <av500> thomas___: 2x
[16:52:08] <woglinde> buildin
[16:52:35] <mru> thomas___: 24 is 32
[16:52:48] <mru> go with 16 for normal desktop stuff
[16:53:03] <mru> 32 if photo quality matters
[16:53:12] <mru> 16 is fine for casual web browsing
[16:53:31] <mru> cheap LCDs are only 18-bit anyway
[16:53:32] * woglinde wonders who needs is beagle for web browsing
[16:54:03] <av500> mru: indeed
[16:54:16] <woglinde> ieehks 18-bit
[16:54:26] <av500> woglinde: all the 10" netbook ones
[16:54:29] <woglinde> how the hell this works
[16:54:39] <mru> I have a patch for omapfbplay somewhere to make it work with 18-bit displays wired to the wrong pins
[16:54:56] <av500> ah, that mistake
[16:55:00] <woglinde> wrong pins?
[16:55:03] <woglinde> uha
[16:55:06] <thomas___> I suppose I need to put the "setenv" argument in boot.scr and not in user.scr ?
[16:55:08] <mru> low 6 instead of high 6
[16:55:23] <av500> mru: thats when you lose the ability to use the DSS ditherer :)
[16:55:42] <av500> or was it the other way round?
[16:55:45] <av500> i forgot
[16:56:20] <mru> I had to shift the yuv values to make the output rgb come out in the 6-bit range
[16:57:10] <av500> and for the GFX?
[16:57:13] <mru> yeah, shift right 2 and add 96
[16:57:38] <mru> I don't know what they did for that
[16:57:44] <woglinde> hm directfb has now vdpau support
[16:57:47] <mru> it was a special hack for a demo
[16:58:00] <av500> ah
[16:58:32] <mru> gregoire had to show video playing on a broken prototype
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[16:59:05] <av500> mru: there are actually 2 way to connect a 18bit lcd, one of them only allows to use the ditherer
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[16:59:34] <av500> of course our HW found out the hard way :)
[16:59:39] <mru> this was worse than not using the ditherer
[16:59:59] <mru> cutting off the top 2 bits of the pixel values isn't a good idea no matter how well you dither
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[17:00:49] <av500> mru: yeah
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[17:08:11] <woglinde> hm I should save my usb serial stuff for uboot too
[17:10:14] <av500> woglinde: we will roll 2 gsocs into one for you :)
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[17:24:53] <woglinde> av500 mabyee I can make 3
[17:25:01] <woglinde> tetra for crofton too
[17:29:03] <av500> right
[17:29:37] <woglinde> but first I need working dsp
[17:29:49] <woglinde> which can do more than the loop demo
[17:30:22] <av500> woglinde: funny, this year I am moving away from that dsp after 5ys :)
[17:30:32] <woglinde> hm
[17:30:41] <woglinde> and to what?
[17:31:13] <av500> ivahd
[17:31:34] * woglinde googles
[17:31:45] <av500> o4
[17:32:58] <woglinde> hm
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[17:33:02] * woglinde chuckles
[17:33:22] <woglinde> for .32 psp kernel I will propably need older ti codec stuff
[17:33:36] <woglinde> thats no fun at all
[17:35:31] <mru> programming the ivahd directly looks like it could be fun
[17:35:43] <woglinde> with ccs?
[17:35:46] <mru> if there weren't so many roadblocks in the way of actually doing it
[17:36:16] <woglinde> koen ping
[17:36:41] <mru> I don't know if ccs can generate code for those processors
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[17:37:03] <mru> but they look pretty awesome
[17:37:08] <woglinde> mru?
[17:37:14] <mru> the ivahd processors
[17:37:20] <woglinde> how ti can sell them than?
[17:37:29] <mru> they include codec binaries
[17:37:30] <woglinde> hiring you?
[17:37:32] <woglinde> *g*
[17:37:51] <woglinde> hm
[17:38:48] <mru> I'm talking about the ME units and such
[17:39:49] <Crofton> tetr?
[17:40:23] <woglinde> crofton ;)
[17:41:15] <koen> woglinde: pong
[17:41:43] <koen> mru: recent cgt has m3 support, not sure about ccs hooks
[17:41:50] <koen> I bet gcc would work as well
[17:41:50] <mru> m3 is just arm
[17:41:52] <aholler> how many feet or gallons have those ME units?
[17:42:22] <mru> koen: the iME, iLF and friends are not even close to ARM
[17:42:36] <mru> I can assure you no gnu tools know about them
[17:42:40] <woglinde> koen does the ti-codec stuff which is pinned for .37 kernel works with the .32 kernel?
[17:42:50] <koen> woglinde: yes
[17:42:53] <ynezz> koen: that DISTRO="angstrom-2011.3-maintenance" was some "victim" of your scripts asking for help on #oe ...
[17:42:54] <woglinde> okay
[17:42:56] <woglinde> fine
[17:43:10] <woglinde> thanks koen
[17:43:22] <koen> ynezz: I still don't see how the scripts could have put that into local.conf
[17:43:27] * woglinde needs to rebuild kernel modules
[17:43:41] <ynezz> he did it manualy and claimed it broken
[17:43:42] <woglinde> koen btw. for .37 I got only the loop dsplink example run
[17:43:44] <koen> woglinde: the newer versions add if LINUX_VERSION > 2,6,36 stuff
[17:43:50] <koen> woglinde: nice!
[17:44:10] <woglinde> no other dsplink example
[17:44:13] <koen> ynezz: that's what I thought, people are stupid
[17:44:17] <woglinde> and no codec engine
[17:44:31] <ynezz> you probably should rot15 that scripts :p
[17:45:06] <mru> rot15? are we doing cyrillic here?
[17:45:13] <mru> and that would be rot16
[17:45:34] <mru> assuming the russian variant
[17:45:41] <mru> and assuming my memory is accurate
[17:46:26] <ynezz> it's klingon actually
[17:48:15] <mru> klingon script has 30 chars?
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[17:52:04] <ynezz> koen: maybe something along these lines: test -z "$(git diff-index --name-only HEAD --)" || big_fat_warning "local modifications detected, you're on your own, don't ask for the support"
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[17:53:46] <woglinde> ynezz wont help
[17:58:26] <ynezz> [x] I agree, that I'll ask for support on #angstrom
[17:58:28] <ynezz> :)
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[17:59:23] <woglinde> hm
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[18:00:10] <woglinde> what was tty for console with gadet composite
[18:00:17] <mru> ynezz: make it more convoluted, like those "yes, I agree that $corp may not spam me, or not"
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[18:03:01] <ynezz> yes or yes?
[18:03:45] <mru> the best ones come in pairs, one already ticked
[18:03:53] <mru> and you must toggle both to avoid the spam
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[18:07:48] <John_____> I connected my webcam (Logitech C200) to my BB C4 via a USB hub, I typed "lsusb" and it identifies Bus 001 Device 005: ID 046d:0802 Logitech, Inc.
[18:08:01] <mru> looks reasonable
[18:08:08] <John_____> but when I opened "cheese" and tried to take a photo with my webcam
[18:08:16] <John_____> it couldn't detect the hardware
[18:08:19] <woglinde_> hrms
[18:08:27] <muriani> is there support in the kernel for it?
[18:08:37] <muriani> or the required module for it loaded?
[18:08:51] <woglinde_> should be
[18:08:58] <John_____> I believe so, I went to logitech website and found that for kernal 2.6 26 or newer should have support
[18:09:01] <woglinde_> install ucbla
[18:09:01] <muriani> check lsmod?
[18:09:07] <John_____> my kernal is 2.26 35
[18:09:07] <woglinde_> no opkg list
[18:09:16] <woglinde_> john?
[18:09:19] <John_____> yes
[18:09:20] <John_____> ?
[18:09:40] <John_____> i am thinking that maybe I dont have the driver installed
[18:10:07] <John_____> is there anyone who can tell me how to install the driver?
[18:10:07] <woglinde_> kernel modul uvcvideo
[18:10:17] <woglinde_> opkg
[18:10:39] <woglinde_> read the manunal before using the washingmachine
[18:10:51] <GGuyZ> My beagle is so cute when he's sleeping :)
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[18:10:59] <woglinde_> he?
[18:11:24] <mnemoc> my beagle is female
[18:11:27] <GGuyZ> Yes, he's a male beagle
[18:11:45] <GGuyZ> Equipped with everything necessary!
[18:11:51] <John_____> i found some post on Beagleboard discussion and some people were suggesting using MPLAYER to take a picture
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[18:12:24] <John_____> can anyone tell me how to use "mplayer" to take a picture using a webcam?
[18:12:53] <John_____> i already installed mplayer
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[18:13:24] <GGuyZ> woglinde_: I do mean my real Beagle of course :P
[18:13:25] <GGuyZ> http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/163001_485421813448_758073448_5637222_5368922_n.jpg
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[18:14:02] <John_____> anyone please?
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[18:15:34] <John_____> woglinde, do you know how to use mplayer to take a picture?
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[18:16:57] <woglinde_> john X11drv something
[18:17:05] <woglinde_> hm
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[18:17:19] <woglinde_> /dev/ttygserial
[18:17:23] <John_____> X11drv??? what is that
[18:17:29] <woglinde_> capture
[18:17:38] <woglinde_> from display
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[18:17:55] <woglinde_> for your camera you proably need video4linux
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[18:18:17] <John_____> do i type "opkg install video4linux"?
[18:19:35] <John_____> unknown package 'video4linux'
[18:22:05] <woglinde_> no
[18:22:18] <woglinde_> mplayer with video4linux options
[18:23:17] <djlewis_> video4linux2
[18:26:34] <woglinde_> hm hm
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[18:28:17] <b7500af1> Question about using CMEM and was looking at the speed difference between cached and non-cached memory reads, using heap buffers. For the most part, I don't see a difference.
[18:28:31] <John_____> does anyone know any good software for testing a webcam on BB C4????
[18:28:37] <aholler> dmesg
[18:28:44] <John_____> Im using Angstrom kernal 2.26 36
[18:29:29] <John_____> 2.6 32
[18:29:37] <muriani> did you install video4linux2 ?
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[18:29:49] <John_____> no
[18:29:58] <John_____> could you tell me how to?
[18:30:07] <muriani> opkg install video4linux2
[18:30:26] <muriani> network connection required, of course, for it to download and install
[18:30:47] <John_____> i tried opkg install video4linux2 and its said "Unknown package 'video4linux2'"
[18:30:57] <John_____> i have network connect on my BB c4
[18:31:04] <John_____> connection
[18:31:13] <muriani> angstrom distribution?
[18:31:20] <John_____> yes
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[18:32:01] <muriani> it may be v4l or v4l2
[18:32:35] <John_____> i tried both and none of them exist
[18:32:54] <muriani> are you able to install anything with opkg?
[18:33:13] <koen> since when is mplayer v4l2 support a package?
[18:33:42] <muriani> ah
[18:33:44] <John_____> i tried opkg install mplayer and it said its installed in root is up to date
[18:33:50] <koen> or since when is 'video4linux2' a package?
[18:34:29] <muriani> no idea. I'm suggesting things to try while I'm searching for an answer.
[18:34:36] <John_____> I am new to Linux, so is there any way that I can install the driver for my webcam?
[18:35:01] <muriani> I've never had to install v4l support myself.
[18:35:06] <John_____> my webcam is a UVC cam
[18:35:10] <John_____> i see
[18:35:37] <woglinde_> opkg list | grep uvc
[18:35:44] <John_____> muriani, do you know any program that can test my webcam? such as taking a picture
[18:36:37] <muriani> mplayer was suggested earlier.
[18:36:43] <muriani> I've never needed to use a webcam in linux
[18:36:44] <woglinde_> there are plenty
[18:36:55] <woglinde_> even opencv can take pictures from video4linux
[18:37:05] <koen> mplayer tv:// ?
[18:38:13] <John_____> woglinde, i typed "opkg list | grep uvc" and it showed here "pastebin.com/yqABdsNE
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[18:39:38] <John_____> koen, i tired "mplayer tv://" and I got the following: pastebin.com/n2Wufxyt
[18:39:47] <John_____> tried
[18:41:44] <John_____> anyone?
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[18:48:05] <djlewis_> John_____: if google is up try mplayer webcam
[18:48:13] <djlewis_> gm all
[18:48:25] <woglinde_> opkg install kernel-module-uvcvideo?
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[19:08:34] <John_____> djlewis, how do I test my webcam using mplayer?
[19:08:49] <John_____> i have mplayer installed already
[19:09:00] <John_____> i tried "CHEESE" and it couldn't detect the device
[19:09:15] <djlewis_> does the device exist?
[19:09:19] <John_____> yes
[19:09:25] <John_____> i tried lsusb
[19:09:31] <John_____> it shows
[19:09:54] <thurbad> did you install the driver like woglinde_ suggested?
[19:10:01] <djlewis_> do you have a /dev/video0 or similar?
[19:10:01] <John_____> Bus 001 Device 005: ID 046d:0802 Logitech, Inc.
[19:10:52] <John_____> i tried "mplayer tv://" and I got the following: www.pastebin.com/n2Wufxyt
[19:11:23] <djlewis_> that is a uncomplete command line
[19:11:25] <thurbad> John_____ : <woglinde_> opkg install kernel-module-uvcvideo?
[19:11:43] <djlewis_> John_____: you are supposed to look into it and fill in the rest
[19:12:37] <djlewis_> John_____: you didnt google did you...
[19:12:46] <John_____> I did....
[19:13:15] <John_____> i want to install driver of my webcam on BB C4
[19:14:05] <djlewis_> thurbad: you may have to go to his home and type it in for him.
[19:14:17] <John_____> thurbad, djlewis: I typed "opkg install kernel-module-uvcvideo' and the installation is complete
[19:14:34] <thurbad> is the module loaded?
[19:14:47] <thurbad> test with: lsmod
[19:14:51] <djlewis_> and did you cheeck if you have /dev/video0 or similar?
[19:15:34] <John_____> i see video0
[19:16:40] <John_____> i have the driver installed
[19:16:42] <John_____> djlewis
[19:16:50] <koen> jkridner|work: http://git.angstrom-distribution.org/cgi-bin/cgit.cgi/testlab/commit/?h=next&id=a4cf1fa6ae7e650b99e351be6d8f5b089b92070a <- better?
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[19:18:21] <John_____> do you know any program that can test the functionality of my webcam?
[19:21:33] <djlewis_> mplayer
[19:21:43] <jkridner> spell checker?
[19:22:05] <jkridner> must be in gedit.
[19:22:25] <John_____> mplayer
[19:22:41] <djlewis_> John_____: it looks like all thepieces are in place for you.
[19:23:07] <jkridner> koen: I'm just publishing BeagleCast in the next few minutes then I'll get to the kernel patch.... though I suspect the one you already have for 2.6.37 could well apply.
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[19:23:51] <John_____> djlewis, I am running "Cheese", it detects the existence of the webcam but the output is a black screen
[19:24:00] <jkridner> koen: is nodejs cross-building now?
[19:24:16] <John_____> djlewis, you said that I can use mplayer to test my webcam
[19:24:22] <djlewis_> yep
[19:24:23] <John_____> do I use "mplayer -vo"?
[19:24:41] <djlewis_> seems I learned this stuff by having to read
[19:24:49] <djlewis_> no offense
[19:25:27] <djlewis_> personally i dont like sounding dumb by asking so many questions. I study.
[19:26:06] <aholler_> you must be an alien or dinosaur if you read documentation ;)
[19:26:17] <jkridner> koen: do these build images show up somewhere?
[19:28:32] <djlewis_> the latter :)
[19:28:49] <djlewis_> i turned 58 last month :)
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[19:31:39] <djlewis_> John_____: were you using a different username before spring break?
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[19:32:52] <John_____> no
[19:33:35] <John_____> im just trying to figure out why the output from my webcam is just a black screen\
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[19:37:03] * djlewis_ assumes lehigh has a course using beagleboards now?
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[19:38:34] <John_____> no, just I am using it
[19:38:50] <djlewis_> and another from before spring break :)
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[19:40:07] <John_____> that was me....
[19:40:16] <djlewis_> I figured
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[19:45:48] <John_____> i did "mplayer tv://" and a Mplayer screen popped up displaying a green screen
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[19:50:42] <djlewis_> John_____: if you wont read the google results then try man mplayer and do it the hard way
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[20:04:11] <John_____> djlewis, I found your post on how to get USB camera working
[20:04:16] <John_____> however
[20:04:52] <John_____> i tried, mplayer tv:// -tv driver=v4l2:width=320:height=240:noaudio:device=/dev/ video0 -fps 15 -vo xv
[20:05:28] <John_____> djlewis, I got a Mplayer screen pop-up and displaying a green screen
[20:05:49] <John_____> i got the following message in the terminal
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[20:07:52] <John_____> www.pastebin.com/3B6d9ewY
[20:09:44] <John_____> djlewis, could you please take a look at it?
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[20:17:22] <djlewis_> John_____: look through this, something might take: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
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[20:24:08] <John_____> that helped
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[20:24:50] <John_____> djlewis: i found some people saying that if I plug in my web cam directly to USB Host not via USB hub, it would work
[20:24:54] <John_____> i tried and it worked
[20:25:07] <John_____> i can do video streaming now
[20:26:45] <djlewis_> cool but odd
[20:27:13] <John_____> i need to know how to use mplayer for taking pictures now
[20:27:18] <John_____> then move on to opencv
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[20:33:24] <thurbad> is your hub powered?
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[20:44:24] * koen stabs opencv again
[20:44:51] <koen> parallel make is broken
[20:44:55] <koen> and it's a c++ project
[20:45:34] <koen> and it's using svn
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[20:45:47] <koen> and cmake
[20:46:20] <koen> you would actually get better karma for making a pully killing robot
[20:46:27] <koen> puppy*
[20:47:09] <mnemoc> doh :p
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[21:01:19] <jkridner> http://beagleboard.blogspot.com/2011/03/beaglecast-2011-03-14-beagleboard-xm.html
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[21:04:40] <woglinde> hi jkridner
[21:04:47] <jkridner> hi woglinde
[21:05:17] <woglinde> jkridner I have my beagle with broken serial going again, thanks to sakomans u-boot usb serial driver
[21:05:45] <jkridner> is it out-of-tree?
[21:06:07] <woglinde> hm was only hard to find out what to set in the include file
[21:06:18] <jkridner> why so many u-boot usb serial drivers? can't we get down mainline to work?
[21:06:31] <woglinde> overriding env from nand and so on
[21:06:33] <jkridner> do you have a patch?
[21:06:39] <woglinde> no
[21:06:40] <jkridner> ah.
[21:06:52] <jkridner> steps to take? could probably change the default environment.
[21:06:55] <woglinde> but after findind all out isnt that hard
[21:07:06] <jkridner> does it require code changes?
[21:07:18] <jkridner> or just environment hacking...
[21:07:28] <woglinde> hm probably only in the include file
[21:07:29] <jkridner> I know we had it only requiring environment hacking at one point.
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[21:08:01] <jkridner> well, if you end the mystery, I'll try to at least submit an Angstrom patch.
[21:08:09] * woglinde didnt find out what how to set serialout in errror to normalserial and usbtty
[21:08:12] <jkridner> ...if not an upstream u-boot patch.
[21:08:34] <woglinde> so I made it in the boardfile via setenv
[21:08:38] <jkridner> so, it is either or?
[21:08:42] <woglinde> no
[21:08:59] <woglinde> they are working at the same time
[21:09:45] <woglinde> I maybee will write a blog post
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[21:10:03] <Pinar> hello..
[21:10:13] <woglinde> or changing sakomans site about it on beagleboard.org
[21:10:37] <woglinde> and I am using now the usb_composite driver
[21:10:48] <woglinde> gives me console and net over usb
[21:11:01] <woglinde> only stuff its not working is boot messages
[21:11:05] <jkridner> hi Pinar
[21:11:09] <woglinde> hi pinar
[21:11:19] <Pinar> would someone please tell me where to find cxcore.lib and cv.lib on linux?
[21:11:27] <jkridner> woglinde: a blog post would be *very* welcome.
[21:12:04] <jkridner> Pinar: if you are using OpenCV, please look up file locations and install instructions on a per-distro basis.
[21:12:09] <Pinar> i am following the steps for gsoc-opencv-acceleration on dsp
[21:12:18] <woglinde> pinar uh hm
[21:12:30] <woglinde> dont know how much koen now integrated
[21:12:38] <woglinde> so maybee its only packaging installing
[21:12:43] <Pinar> undefined symbol for _cvCopy and first referenced in file cvCopy /home/nurp/stuff/BASE_DIR/angstrom-angstrom-setup-scripts/opencv-dsp-acceleration/dsp_opencv/beagle/c6accel_1_00_00_04_async/soc/packages/ti/c6accel/lib/C6Accel.l64P<c6accel_c64p_release.o64P>
[21:13:08] <Pinar> i have been trying to solve it for 2 weeks and i am about to cry now
[21:13:21] <woglinde> so next task is trying dsp stuff under .32
[21:13:44] <tasslehoff> Should it be possible to get power managagement (standby/wake) working with linux-omap-psp 2.6.32 from OE?
[21:14:10] <jkridner> Pinar: this might have been due to a bug in OpenCV that Koen has more recently worked around as OpenCV had some moronic #ifdef stuff based on ARM related to Android.
[21:14:37] <woglinde> jkridner doubt it
[21:14:40] <Pinar> but jkridner, if i want to compile it for beagleboard, i should use cross compiler , shouldn't i?
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[21:15:20] <Pinar> would someone send me just cxcore.lib?
[21:15:49] <djlewis_> Pinar: got all your header files in place?
[21:16:16] <woglinde> djlewis header?
[21:16:21] <woglinde> thats a linker problem
[21:16:24] <Pinar> I did everything succesfully
[21:16:28] <djlewis_> undefined symbol for _cvCop
[21:16:38] <djlewis_> oh
[21:17:01] <Pinar> it says in tutorial that I should comment the line with CX_CORE if I don't have it.
[21:17:22] <jkridner> tasslehoff: I can't say for sure about all the features, but the PSP kernel does have quite a few power management features. You can look at the git tree for it at http://arago-project.org/git/projects/?p=linux-omap3.git
[21:17:24] <Pinar> I commented it because I don't have those files. but now it doesn't know what cvCopy is
[21:17:53] <Pinar> or _cvCvtColor, _cvIntegral and some others
[21:17:53] <djlewis_> so a library
[21:18:31] <jkridner> tasslehoff: you'd likely want all of those OE patches to make it work better with your BeagleBoard.
[21:20:55] <tasslehoff> jkridner: I compile my own rootfs with OE, so I think I have most patches.
[21:21:02] <Pinar> how do I set up my development machine now
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[21:21:42] <djlewis_> Pinar: are you using: http://code.google.com/p/opencv-dsp-acceleration/wiki/Instruction_For_Building_Examples
[21:21:48] <Pinar> yes
[21:21:52] <djlewis_> hmm
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[21:22:10] <tasslehoff> jkridner: I pulled in a twl4030_poweroff driver from a TI android kernel, and added some power scripts from an archos kernel, and that got my power button working. currently I'm trying to get standby to work.
[21:22:11] <Pinar> someone had same error also
[21:22:19] <Pinar> Comment by Percoct...@gmail.com, Oct 24..
[21:22:21] <djlewis_> did you go over that part?
[21:22:48] <Pinar> bitbake doesn't install same versions as mentioned in tutorial
[21:23:00] <Pinar> should I make sure same versions are installed?
[21:23:16] <Pinar> like I installed cgtools 6.1.17 instead of 6.1.9
[21:24:00] <Pinar> My computer is 64 bit and I installed 64 bit Ubuntu. Was that mistake?
[21:24:11] <Pinar> 32 bit Ubuntu doesn't install on my machine
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[21:27:22] <woglinde> args
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[21:27:38] <woglinde> there is something work with dsplink examples under .32 too
[21:30:40] <woglinde> did someone lately tested the dsplink examples?
[21:35:10] <tasslehoff> I wonder why .32 is the latest psp kernel in oe
[21:35:26] <woglinde> ask koen
[21:35:36] <woglinde> or maybee jkrinder knows
[21:36:55] <tasslehoff> or maybe jkridner ;)
[21:38:06] <woglinde> sigh why this guy dont help us at oe
[21:38:08] <woglinde> http://bradfordembedded.blogspot.com/2011/03/toolchain-check-kernel-check.html
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[21:42:17] <tasslehoff> bedtime soon, so I'll bug koen about it tomorrow. I suspect someone knows if what I try can even work with the .32 kernel from OE, and it would be nice to know if my kernel even gives me a chance to succeed.
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[21:43:15] <woglinde> tasslehoff dont know your problem
[21:43:19] <Flipo> Hello, I have a Beagleboard xm and just installed Angstrom, is there a way to play video files without installing a gui ?
[21:43:39] <woglinde> flipo mplayer
[21:43:49] <woglinde> or gstreamer
[21:44:04] <Flipo> woglinde: and that would play through the hdmi port ?
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[21:44:57] <thurbad> mplayer with the framebuffer works ok
[21:45:35] <ds2> omapfbplayer
[21:46:04] <Flipo> currently my hdmi port outputs the CLI, I assume I would need to change something in order to get video ?
[21:46:06] <thurbad> omapfbplayer is great, but the standard source is video only
[21:46:13] <tasslehoff> woglinde: putting my board to sleep, and having it wake up on an interrupt from the tps.
[21:47:04] <woglinde> and I want only working dsp examples
[21:47:25] <thurbad> Flipo, no that's the framebuffer.. you can output video to it as well
[21:48:07] <Flipo> cool trying omapfbplay
[21:48:12] <Flipo> is any of that accelerated ?
[21:48:19] <woglinde> gstreamer-ti is
[21:48:28] <woglinde> other stuff is gsoc
[21:48:37] <woglinde> hm
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[21:48:44] <thurbad> omapfbplay uses neon only
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[21:49:00] <thurbad> so it is accelerated somewhat, but not fully
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[21:49:43] <woglinde> thurbad its acceled by mru
[21:49:45] <woglinde> *g*
[21:49:48] <thurbad> heh
[21:50:19] <mru> omapfbplay uses ivahd on omap4 :)
[21:50:24] <thurbad> I've got a version of it that I added sound to, does exactly what I need it to =)
[21:51:17] <woglinde> mru hehe
[21:51:34] <Flipo> nice omapfbplay works out of the box
[21:51:55] <Flipo> oh I need a special version for sound ?
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[21:54:55] <thurbad> yeah, I can probably post patches if you're interested.. I need to clean some stuff up in it to make it more user friendly
[21:55:33] <Flipo> yes could be nice. my goal is to have an installation for a museum where people press buttons and the videos play in fullscreen, what option would be the best ?
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[21:56:00] <thurbad> what resolution are you using?
[21:56:22] <woglinde> userbutton?
[21:56:38] <Flipo> 720p would be fine
[21:57:02] <Flipo> for the buttons I could just hack a keyboard or use gpio
[21:58:59] <jkridner> tasslehoff: PSP kernel only supported dm3730 with 2.6.32, except for perhaps very recently.
[21:59:36] <jkridner> PSP team has been sitting on an old kernel for some time now. :(
[21:59:38] <woglinde> Flipo try gstreamer
[21:59:43] <woglinde> gstreamer-ti
[21:59:56] <thurbad> if you need 720p you probably need to go with gstreamer
[22:00:09] <tasslehoff> jkridner: you mean at all? so it's the OE patches that make it work for 3530?
[22:01:25] * jkridner looks at http://arago-project.org/git/?p=arago.git;a=tree;f=recipes/linux;h=58c4f6fa9535dcaff7c996c28e8913840a54a330;hb=HEAD
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[22:01:43] <woglinde> jkrinder where can I bug report codec-engine errors?
[22:02:08] <jkridner> woglinde: e2e.ti.com
[22:02:34] <woglinde> phys_start=0x85000000 phys_end=0x86000000
[22:02:37] <woglinde> dont works
[22:02:41] <woglinde> for cmemk
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[22:03:21] <woglinde> CMEMK Error: CMEM phys_start (0x85000000) overlaps kernel (0x80000000 -> 0x86300000)
[22:04:10] <jkridner> tasslehoff: my understanding was that the PSP release for omap3530/dm3730 was still just on a 2.6.32 kernel, but looking at the recipes in Arago, it seems like something may have been there and just not pushed to OE/Angstrom.
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[22:05:04] <denix> jkridner: heh, something arago is good at? not always crap? :) :)
[22:05:14] <woglinde> denix *g*
[22:05:44] <jkridner> hehe....... I'm not on the Arago is crap bus..... but I am on the "Why are Arago and OE different" bus.
[22:06:31] <woglinde> hm
[22:06:40] <Flipo> opkg install gstreamer-ti should work ? I get fatal errors
[22:06:52] <jkridner> I need to look at the release notes to see if all of the linux-omap3-psp recipes support OMAP3530 and DM3730.... I'm not sure if they do
[22:07:04] <denix> jkridner: beats me, as you know. I'm just a man between a rock and a hard place...
[22:07:24] * jkridner looks for dynamite. ;)
[22:07:44] <tasslehoff> I'll have to compare those recipes tomorrow and figure out which kernel to use. thanks for the info.
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[22:08:10] <denix> jkridner: afaik, PSP 4.x is still in beta...
[22:08:15] <woglinde> hm seems
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[22:08:22] <woglinde> I need to lower the mem some more
[22:08:29] <woglinde> for kernel
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[22:08:54] <jkridner> it looks like 8 weeks ago there was an OMAPPSP release that is on 2.6.37-r7, but I think koen just chose to pick his own patches. not sure if that recipe ever got into OE.
[22:09:36] * jkridner doesn't even feel like looking.
[22:09:38] <woglinde> or just edit the mem region in the script
[22:10:04] <woglinde> now lets see if one of the codec-engine-examples works
[22:10:40] <woglinde> app: error: can't open engine scale
[22:10:42] <woglinde> hms
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[22:11:25] <woglinde> why is that so complicated
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[22:37:30] <denix> woglinde: "why is that so complicated" - by design :) sorry, couldn't resist :)
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[22:39:36] <Crofton|work> a decent interface for linux between the dsp and arm is still missing it seems
[22:39:51] <Crofton|work> maybe it is just a hard p[roblem
[22:40:00] <denix> it is quite...
[22:40:41] <denix> RTSC was supposed to solve it, but only made it more complicated... IMHO
[22:41:34] <ds2> Crofton|work: since you responded about the picture from scalex9 with the OE booth... http://www.hy-research.com/scalex9-volunteer.html
[22:41:43] <mru> Crofton|work: it wouldn't need to be that complicated
[22:41:55] <mru> but someone wanted to make it look more like java
[22:41:59] <mru> so they invented xdc
[22:43:38] <aholler_> there are too much people who can't think simple. e.g. those who need a "framework" even for the simpliest stuff
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[22:45:49] <mru> new HelloFactoryFactory.getImpl().createFactory().getInstance().createThread(new WorldFactoryImpl().getInstance().invokeHello())
[22:46:04] <Crofton|work> rofl
[22:46:18] <Crofton|work> I need a dsp person to talk to
[22:46:20] <DaveDavenport> lol
[22:46:30] <Ceriand|work> lol
[22:46:36] <Crofton|work> the one I know locally is getting mixed up in some bad dieas :)
[22:46:42] <Crofton|work> career wise
[22:47:14] <mru> Crofton|work: you could try becoming one
[22:47:17] <mru> that's what I'd do
[22:47:35] <Crofton|work> yeah
[22:47:42] <Crofton|work> that is what I fear
[22:48:10] <Crofton|work> right now I am compiling verilog and tomorrow I am looking at pyqt, qwt, and pyqwt
[22:48:20] <Crofton|work> and the day after that I become a dsp guy
[22:48:48] <DaveDavenport> sounds like a plan
[22:49:05] <woglinde> crofton pyqt?
[22:49:10] <woglinde> I gave that up
[22:49:22] <woglinde> better look at pyside
[22:49:24] <Crofton|work> may have to try a native build
[22:49:40] <Crofton|work> the problem is I have existing stuff that uses pyqt
[22:50:10] <woglinde> hm yeah
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[22:50:23] <woglinde> I got a recent release compiled
[22:50:32] <woglinde> but it didnt worked
[22:50:32] <Crofton|work> of pyside?
[22:50:36] <woglinde> no pyqt
[22:50:37] <Crofton|work> bummer
[22:50:58] <woglinde> same as dsp stuff
[22:51:21] <woglinde> at least I learned how usb serial works with uboot
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[22:53:22] <woglinde> good nite
[22:53:28] <woglinde> tomorrow java again
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[23:00:37] <mru> Crofton|work: implementing pyqt in an fpga?
[23:01:00] <DaveDavenport> why not
[23:01:51] <mru> well, I'm not so sure compiling qt for an fpga is such an easy task
[23:02:32] <mru> reminds me of a quote I saw about someone struggling with a verilog error: of course that doesn't work, you're trying to do a bubble-sort in one cycle
[23:02:47] <denix> mru: with rtsc/xdc should be piece of cake! :)
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[23:04:11] <ds2> bubble sort in one cycle... nice
[23:04:28] <ds2> what is the max clock rate? 20Hz?
[23:04:31] <spikebike> heh
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[23:04:58] <spikebike> well you could with an fpga, I suspect the maximum array size would be on the 10s though
[23:04:59] <mru> of course sorting _can_ be done in one cycle with a deep enough tree of comparators
[23:05:10] <mru> propagation time might be a bit ugly though
[23:05:11] <spikebike> s/on/in/
[23:05:23] <ds2> it only impacts the max clock rate
[23:06:00] <spikebike> but doing anything serial and complex (like qt) seems insane unless you just mean implement a general purpose cpu and then compile to it as a target
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[23:06:14] <spikebike> and run 1% as fast as a normal cpu
[23:06:26] <mru> you can put cortex-m3 or so in an fpga
[23:06:32] <mru> or m4 even
[23:06:34] <spikebike> sure
[23:06:46] <spikebike> and run at what a few 100 MHz?
[23:06:46] <regomodo> Anybody know of a good guide to x-compile Qt?
[23:06:49] <mru> I have one here, runs a whopping 50MHz
[23:07:08] <ds2> m3? who's offering the M3 IP ?
[23:07:09] <spikebike> mru: how much power @ 50 Mhz?
[23:07:14] <ds2> most folks only do M1's
[23:07:14] <mru> ds2: M4
[23:07:25] <mru> it's an ARM dev kit
[23:07:29] <ds2> mru: is the M4 a simplified core like the M1?
[23:07:36] <mru> no, it'a complified
[23:07:51] <ds2> hmmm I assume arm sell that?
[23:07:57] <mru> M3 + armv6 simd
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[23:08:16] <mru> ds2: http://ge-research.de/arm_microcontroller.html
[23:08:24] <mru> that's the one
[23:09:06] <ds2> oh nice
[23:09:22] <ds2> I been seeing the M1's all over the place
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[23:09:54] <mru> the M1 is a low gate-count core
[23:10:18] <mru> which is probably what you want if you're going to use it for production
[23:10:38] <mru> this thing is meant for prototyping only
[23:10:53] <ds2> *nod*
[23:11:10] <ds2> now if they only offered an A8 in FPGA form
[23:11:17] <regomodo> No one has done embedded qt then?
[23:11:19] <ds2> be nifty to see how they do the DDR interface
[23:11:37] <mru> the A8 is way too big for an fpga
[23:12:14] <spikebike> mru use 32 of them and bitsplice them together ;-)
[23:12:37] <aholler_> regomodo: just read the qt documentation
[23:12:57] <spikebike> with a sufficiently low clock rate it's easy to spread CPUs across multiple chips
[23:13:05] <Ceriand|work> regomodo: are you using the X11 Qt or the QWT version?
[23:13:17] <mru> spikebike: of course, that's how _all_ cpus were made in the 60s
[23:13:21] <regomodo> spikebike: just say rtfm
[23:13:29] <aholler_> qt is very easy to cross-compile.
[23:13:37] <spikebike> mru: my dad designed the PERQ cpu
[23:13:45] <mru> aholler_: compiling qt easily makes me crosss
[23:13:47] <regomodo> i've tried all sorts. In scratchbox, messing with mkspecs
[23:14:06] <regomodo> Ceriand|work: x11
[23:14:16] <Ceriand|work> regomodo: can't help you there, I use QWT
[23:14:22] <Ceriand|work> err QWS
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[23:14:45] <Ceriand|work> regomodo: have you tried buildroot?
[23:14:51] <regomodo> Oh wiat, are you talking about using the Bramebuffer directly?
[23:14:57] <Ceriand|work> yes
[23:14:57] <regomodo> *framebuffer
[23:15:06] <regomodo> righto, that's what i'm after
[23:16:03] <Ceriand|work> I just get the qt tarball off the qt site and use this for the configure step: configure -confirm-license -opensource -nomake demos -nomake examples -nomake docs -no-webkit -no-javascript-jit -no-accessibility -no-qt3support -no-script -no-scripttools -embedded arm -qt-kbd-linuxinput -qt-mouse-linuxinput
[23:16:07] <regomodo> Ceriand|work: not yet, i suppose I should check out another build tool
[23:16:27] <Ceriand|work> the cross toolchain has to be in your path
[23:16:40] <mru> don't cross the paths
[23:17:13] <regomodo> Is it ok to use the codesourcery toolchain?
[23:17:38] <Ceriand|work> you don't need the "-no"s, but it helps speed the compilation if you're not using those components
[23:17:55] <Ceriand|work> regomodo: dunno, I use buildroot
[23:18:21] <regomodo> I might need webkit but all the others i can do without
[23:18:38] <Ceriand|work> the nomake demos and examples helps a lot with build time
[23:18:44] <regomodo> but for now i'll leave it out as it trakes forever to build
[23:20:25] <regomodo> It sort of configured but it's asking for an endian switch
[23:21:35] <Ceriand|work> I built my toolchain as LE only, so you'll probably need that if the CS toolchain goes both ways
[23:23:17] <regomodo> That's what i thought but I think my PATH may be wrong anyway
[23:23:59] <Ceriand|work> the toolchain has to have the prefix arm-linux- IIRC
[23:24:14] <Ceriand|work> eg: arm-linux-gcc, arm-linux-strip, etc
[23:24:19] <regomodo> yep, it's crapped out. Looking for arm-linux-g++. I have arm-none-linux-gnueabi in m PATH
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[23:29:20] <regomodo> Going to play with buildroot 1st. Looks quite simple
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[23:43:24] <aholler_> regomodo: just change the stuff in mkspecs
[23:44:52] <Ceriand|work> or symlink the toolchain binaries to the arm-linux- prefix
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[23:50:29] <regomodo> Ceriand|work: that's a real ballache to do unless i can find out which tools the configure needs exactly
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[23:51:18] <mru> there's only a handful of them
[23:52:03] <Ceriand|work> it looks to only use g++, objcopy, strip, and ar
[23:52:12] <Ceriand|work> and gcc
[23:52:44] <Ceriand|work> either way a bash for loop and cut should be able to do it in no time
[23:52:52] <regomodo> is that from the mkspecs file?
[23:53:32] <mru> in bash: for f in arm-foo-blah-*; do ln -s $f ${f/foo-blah-/linux}; done
[23:53:40] <regomodo> can you use a negative field in cut? like -1 for the last item?
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[23:55:02] <aholler_> changing the one file in mkspecs is easier
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[23:55:41] <regomodo> aholler_: that's armcc.conf right?
[23:56:06] <SPow> Hi, I think my UART2 is on ttyS1 because I get junk when I cat it, but nothing shows up in minicom when I set the correct baudrate, so where can I directly the baudrate for the ttyS1 ?
[23:56:19] <SPow> +modify
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[23:57:39] <aholler_> regomodo: I would have to look at.
[23:58:48] <aholler_> just grep for arm-linux-gcc

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