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IRC Log for 2011-04-21

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  1. [00:00:00] <ds2> prpplague: nope. when the FPGA makers provide tools for the long term, then I'll consider them
  2. [00:00:28] <wmat> prpplague: the TPS2045 somehow got fried on my BB, so far as I can tell
  3. [00:00:35] <wmat> I'm getting:
  4. [00:00:38] <wmat> 70.268432] hub 2-2:1.0: over-current change on port 2
  5. [00:00:39] <wmat> [ 70.377838] hub 2-2:1.0: over-current change on port 3
  6. [00:00:39] <wmat> [ 70.495025] hub 2-2:1.0: over-current change on port 4
  7. [00:00:39] <wmat> [ 70.604248] hub 2-2:1.0: over-current change on port 5
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  9. [00:01:04] <ds2> stop pull too much current ;)
  10. [00:01:10] <prpplague> wmat: doh
  11. [00:01:12] <ds2> 0 can be way too much :D
  12. [00:01:16] <wmat> anyway, I'll RMA it, unless you know of some magic
  13. [00:01:27] * prpplague hands wmat a soldering iron
  14. [00:01:49] <wmat> ds2: I was using a 5V generic wall wart
  15. [00:02:14] <ds2> 5V wall wart feeding INTO the USB ports? :D
  16. [00:02:21] <ds2> or is that from your PC?
  17. [00:02:28] <wmat> prpplague: I'm to lazy for that presently
  18. [00:02:36] <prpplague> hehe
  19. [00:03:34] <wmat> ds2: no, 5V 2.5A power supply plugged into the power on the BB
  20. [00:03:48] <ds2> wmat: are you seeing the over-current errors on the PC or on the BB?
  21. [00:05:13] <wmat> on the serial console on my PC and on the monitor hooked up to the BB
  22. [00:05:36] <ds2> hmmm
  23. [00:05:40] <ds2> chuck it :D
  24. [00:06:05] <wmat> it's heading back to Texas tomorrow ;)
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  28. [00:22:43] <djlewis> hmm, i feel less than satisfied with a sandwich and some tater salad :(
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  30. [00:29:41] <djlewis> mmMmm, dingdong and milk :)
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  35. [00:58:32] <jkridner|fmcg> thanks for the shoutout ChrisGammell!
  36. [00:59:09] <prpplague> jkridner|fmcg: ??
  37. [00:59:22] <jkridner|fmcg> oopps, wrong channel.
  38. [00:59:26] <prpplague> hehe
  39. [00:59:32] <jkridner|fmcg> watching http://www.nymphs.org/Jeri/
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  45. [01:25:17] <djlewis> who'd a thought 555's still have a life ;)
  46. [01:26:09] <jkridner> me!
  47. [01:26:30] * djlewis has a half dozen in the project box
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  55. [01:38:51] <djlewis> good ol Dave
  56. [01:40:38] <prpplague> jkridner: why the heck didn't TI get involved in this?
  57. [01:41:17] <jkridner> I dunno. I donated BeagleBoards.
  58. [01:41:25] <jkridner> beagleboard.org is a sponsor.
  59. [01:41:34] <prpplague> ahh
  60. [01:41:56] <prpplague> i should have gotten tincantools involved
  61. [01:42:15] * jkridner can't be responsible for explaining why all particular contests are cool to TI marketing....
  62. [01:42:39] <jkridner> i'm happy to just get participation at maker faire
  63. [01:43:15] <prpplague> jkridner: hehe
  64. [01:43:30] * prpplague will pay more attention next time for tincantools
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  67. [01:52:31] <hurgood> anyone know of a good automated way to check for memory leaks on the beagle?
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  69. [01:54:50] <thurbad> been using valgrind on a linux box for most of the development, but I need to check a module that has neon code linked in
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  75. [02:17:17] <prpplague> jkridner: thanks for the link, i had forgotten the announcements were tonight
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  77. [02:19:05] <wmat> ditto
  78. [02:19:14] <djlewis> rather enjoyable
  79. [02:19:47] <prpplague> wmat: we need to think about something similiar for elinux
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  87. [02:39:31] <wmat> prpplague: sounds interesting
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  90. [02:47:53] <prpplague> wmat: fun fun fun
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  113. [04:48:15] <liujian> .
  114. [04:48:18] <_av500_> ..
  115. [04:48:24] <liujian> ...
  116. [04:49:10] <_av500_> wierd filesystem
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  134. [05:31:43] <hitlin37> av500..i need a recovery steps for 101..can u provide me the link....what im following is taking me nowhere
  135. [05:32:30] <av500> ??
  136. [05:32:38] <av500> boot into recovery
  137. [05:32:40] <jacekowski> google.com
  138. [05:34:17] <hitlin37> im following http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=930197
  139. [05:34:35] <av500> hitlin37: xda
  140. [05:34:40] <hitlin37> yup
  141. [05:34:54] <av500> i would not nothing about that
  142. [05:34:56] <av500> now
  143. [05:34:58] <av500> know
  144. [05:35:00] <av500> damn
  145. [05:35:02] <av500> need coffee
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  148. [05:58:15] <av500> hitlin37: so what does not work?
  149. [06:00:15] <hitlin37> the red line....go to /mnt/system/unionfs and remove the changes....this is what i need to do..but i can't do it from tab terminal
  150. [06:01:05] <av500> ah
  151. [06:01:10] <av500> no idea, never did that
  152. [06:01:39] <hitlin37> hmmm.....ok..me trying..most probably i will find a way
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  155. [06:08:58] <aarti> hi all , I want to change pulsewidth of a wave of servo driver using servodrive application, pls help me how can i do this?
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  169. [06:47:21] <NotTooDumb3> Hi av500, what is alwon clock? do i need to enable dsi pll if i opt for DSI1_PLL_FCLK? can i as well use DSS1_ALWON_FCLK in DSS_CONTROL as a clock source?
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  207. [09:32:02] <av500> wow, davinci to get a v4l2 output driver... maybe
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  211. [09:39:44] <NotTooDumb3> is v4l2 much more complex than that of fb driver?
  212. [09:40:09] <NotTooDumb3> sorry complicated
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  222. [10:18:08] <hitlin37> i was able to recover after selecting format option from recovery and then installed the development edition:)
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  224. [10:26:20] <av500> good
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  232. [10:55:32] <mru> greetings from lhr
  233. [10:55:44] <koen> hey mru
  234. [10:58:40] <av500> mru: whereto?
  235. [10:59:28] <mru> arn
  236. [11:01:14] <av500> happy easter egg hunting
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  240. [11:09:49] <NotTooDumb3> koen, exactly following the link of building angstrom image http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom did not work, only when i give bitbake virtual/kernel -c compile -f -D as you told, it started to work..why is it so? does following that link exactly work for others?
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  249. [11:34:23] <gidorah> hello, i want to build a system running ubuntu or angstr??m does face recognition with opencv. could anyone give me some advice for speed up the process?
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  254. [12:01:50] <NotTooDumb3> av500, Hi..busy? i could rule out no signal from my driver output possibilities as after the default big vertical lines of angstrom go off, i see small vertical lines and they vary according to i program tvac load enable or bypass tv out for testing...after not proper small verical lines, it goes to auto mode..what all can be the reasons? clocks?? thank you..
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  257. [12:10:04] <av500> gidorah: use simpler faces
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  259. [12:12:50] <gidorah> av500: i could use that. but i mean some customization on OS or killing some services or something like that.
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  262. [12:22:29] <hitlin37> happy good friday and happy weekend to all
  263. [12:22:58] <Matt_O> Thursday just started here
  264. [12:24:20] <av500> since I have a day off tomorrow, we can do friday now
  265. [12:24:50] <av500> gidorah: you can apply the same techniques as on any other computer/OS
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  311. [14:42:22] <Matt_O> good morning
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  313. [14:43:03] <av500> gm
  314. [14:48:14] <Matt_O> remember that prototype PCB I was talking about yesterday? It arrived last night :) http://my-cool-projects.blogspot.com/2011/04/prototype-pcb-has-arrived.html
  315. [14:48:15] <Matt_O> I'm excited
  316. [14:48:21] <Matt_O> now if only the xM would get here
  317. [14:48:54] <av500> it has ...... holes
  318. [14:49:54] <Matt_O> yep
  319. [14:50:07] <av500> arent you afraid the lil SMD parts will fall thru?
  320. [14:50:16] <Matt_O> what SMD parts?
  321. [14:50:34] <Matt_O> this is all thru-hole
  322. [14:50:47] <Matt_O> I can't solder SMD stuff by hand
  323. [14:50:54] <Matt_O> (at least.. I've never tried and I doubt I'd succeed)
  324. [14:51:04] <av500> it's fun
  325. [14:51:27] <Matt_O> I may need to start using some SMD stuff in the future though because I need to add a few more big connectors and I am running out of space
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  351. [16:04:22] <cbrake> prpplague: just finished verifying 50MHz cards on both MMC1/MMC2
  352. [16:05:04] <cbrake> prpplague: we are using a TXS02612 on MMC1 and TXS0206 on MMC2. TXS is close to OMAP, but traces from TXS to connector are probably 2-3 inches
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  354. [16:05:33] <cbrake> prpplague: the connectors are also on a different board than the TXS/OMAP
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  368. [16:36:07] <borillion> does anyone know what I need to copy from the rowboat build in order to get another flavor of gingerbread to work on the board?
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  370. [16:40:54] * jkridner takes a quick look at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~linaro-maintainers/linaro-image-tools/trunk/view/head:/linaro-media-create to understand if it is a replacement for mkcard.txt
  371. [16:45:26] <av500> quick?
  372. [16:46:03] <borillion> mebby he reads fast :P
  373. [16:46:11] <av500> yeah
  374. [16:46:22] <av500> or he has a builtin python filter...
  375. [16:47:32] <borillion> av500 you wouldn't know anything about cyanogenmod on the beagleboard xM would you :P
  376. [16:47:52] <av500> I know both words
  377. [16:48:15] <borillion> LOL
  378. [16:49:47] <borillion> I have been trying to figure out how to build cyanogenmod for the thing for the last month, I cant figure it out D: its way different than the TI source code instructions
  379. [16:51:09] <av500> cyanogen is mostly stock android
  380. [16:51:30] <borillion> something or another about needing a kernel config file from the rowboat source
  381. [16:51:37] <borillion> I know that :D
  382. [16:52:17] <borillion> just that TI uses make, and they use lunch like the rest of the android world :D
  383. [16:52:34] <av500> lunch?
  384. [16:52:46] <borillion> yea lol
  385. [16:53:34] <borillion> lunch generic for example, gives you a kernel-less build of android
  386. [16:53:55] <borillion> lunch passion, gives you the android build for the Nexus One
  387. [16:54:30] <borillion> dont ask me, lol its how stock android compiles according to google's instructions
  388. [16:54:47] <av500> see, you know more than me....
  389. [16:55:08] <borillion> lol
  390. [16:55:23] * borillion defeated by android
  391. [16:55:25] * av500 compiles android with "make" here....
  392. [16:55:39] <borillion> av500, just for ti boards right?
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  394. [16:58:35] <jkridner> well, the 'quick' look tells me it is too complicated.
  395. [16:58:45] <av500> +1
  396. [16:58:51] <borillion> LOL
  397. [16:59:02] <jkridner> borillion: did you check out #rowboat?
  398. [16:59:25] <borillion> oh OMG I didn't know there was one :D
  399. [16:59:30] <av500> jkridner: is rowboat also abandonware?
  400. [16:59:44] <jkridner> it is not, but the community outreach isn't the best.
  401. [16:59:56] <jkridner> it suffers from "real customers"
  402. [17:00:00] <borillion> LOL
  403. [17:00:16] <jkridner> (on both the Mentor and TI support teams)
  404. [17:00:23] <av500> mentor?
  405. [17:00:36] <jkridner> Mentor is a partner on the Rowboat project.
  406. [17:00:51] <av500> musb was not enough damage?
  407. [17:01:43] <av500> jkridner: well, #rowboat looks like a nat/ti sit-in :)
  408. [17:02:12] <jkridner> different team. all former Embedded Alley guys, pretty much.
  409. [17:02:46] <jkridner> you mean Nat Semi? didn't they have to take *our* name? :)
  410. [17:03:28] <av500> jkridner: no
  411. [17:03:41] <av500> ti guys show up in irc as "..../nat/ti/...
  412. [17:03:47] <av500> its your NAT
  413. [17:03:59] <av500> the network bridge
  414. [17:04:14] <av500> now one could say it stands for natsemi :)
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  416. [17:05:57] <av500> anyway, too many irc channels for me....
  417. [17:06:03] <av500> and 70% of the ppl are here anyway
  418. [17:08:37] <borillion> or maybe Ill just be happy with rowboat gingerbread :D
  419. [17:10:22] <prpplague> cbrake: nice
  420. [17:10:27] <prpplague> cbrake: thanks for the info
  421. [17:10:42] <av500> borillion: what is your goal?
  422. [17:10:47] <prpplague> cbrake: did you just leave the second channel unconnected?
  423. [17:11:12] <borillion> av500 using android
  424. [17:11:25] <av500> outrageous
  425. [17:11:41] <borillion> av500 and learning how to compile it over different devices
  426. [17:11:43] <borillion> :P
  427. [17:11:48] <borillion> I didnt finish
  428. [17:13:28] <borillion> I would like to add a GSM cell card and all sorts of goodies
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  433. [17:21:22] <jkridner> dm8tbr: any update? I hate to lose momentum.
  434. [17:25:29] <dm8tbr> jkridner: no update. ask tmw pls
  435. [17:26:16] <jkridner> I was looking for someone called tmw. :) I'll ask again tomorrow.
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  437. [17:30:07] <av500> damn, my HP ran out of juice
  438. [17:33:29] <borillion> why am I seeing this "make: *** No rule to make target `distclean'. Stop."
  439. [17:33:31] <borillion> ?
  440. [17:33:41] <borillion> I have everything installed
  441. [17:34:21] <koen> I would guess because there's no rule to make distclean
  442. [17:34:25] <Matt_O> if I have a DB25 female port designed to accept TTL voltage levels that will plug into an AVR microcontroller... is there a way I can protect the AVR from being damaged if someone tries to plug a serial port into that connection? (I won't have control over the cable so I can block pins on the connector)
  443. [17:35:52] <borillion> koen: yea thats obvious but how do u fix that
  444. [17:36:56] <koen> rm android -rf
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  446. [17:37:47] <av500> Matt_O: are there DB25 serial cables left in the world?
  447. [17:37:59] <Matt_O> av500, sure
  448. [17:38:00] <av500> it could be a printer cable too :)
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  451. [17:38:11] <av500> or anything else that has a DB25
  452. [17:38:28] <borillion> lol koen you saying android is no good :P
  453. [17:39:02] <Matt_O> well the chances of someone trying a serial cable in this case are decent, the chances of other devices are low/nil
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  455. [17:39:05] <av500> it's utter crap
  456. [17:39:18] <ds2> yes, put in protection circuitry
  457. [17:39:20] <av500> Matt_O: then dont use DB25
  458. [17:39:28] <Matt_O> av500, not an option
  459. [17:39:33] <Matt_O> ds2, such as?
  460. [17:39:44] <av500> a sticker?
  461. [17:39:48] <Matt_O> hehe
  462. [17:39:51] <ds2> a schottky junction device
  463. [17:39:56] <Crofton|work> koen, my git describe error is realted to my srctree based recipes
  464. [17:39:57] <ds2> a PN junction device
  465. [17:39:57] <Matt_O> "YOU WILL REGRET THIS!"
  466. [17:39:58] <ds2> etc
  467. [17:40:07] <Matt_O> ds2, that's sounding good
  468. [17:40:14] <Crofton|work> schotytky is not pn junction?
  469. [17:40:30] <av500> schotytky is pnpnpn
  470. [17:40:30] * ds2 sends Crofton back to EE class
  471. [17:40:32] <ds2> :D
  472. [17:40:49] <Crofton|work> metal semi, not semi-semi
  473. [17:41:01] <ds2> =)
  474. [17:41:43] <av500> ti made a nat-semi junction recently
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  476. [17:46:21] <koen> Crofton|work: that's what I meant with 'AUTOREV somewhere?' :)
  477. [17:46:40] <Crofton|work> well, it does not check the rec
  478. [17:46:56] <Crofton|work> other than I think to hack up a PV
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  482. [18:05:32] <beagle2> hey guys...
  483. [18:05:49] <beagle2> stupid question: powering my beagle from a 6v battery would be a bad idea....right?
  484. [18:05:50] <Matt_O> beagle2|www_interface!
  485. [18:06:08] <beagle2> Matt_0: what does that mean?
  486. [18:06:18] <Matt_O> beagle2, it means you are chatting from a web browser as best as I can tell
  487. [18:06:20] <beagle2> Matt_O*
  488. [18:06:39] <beagle2> oh..ya i am!
  489. [18:06:42] <beagle2> is that a bad thing?
  490. [18:07:00] <Matt_O> nope
  491. [18:07:11] <beagle2> alright.
  492. [18:07:15] <Matt_O> it
  493. [18:07:17] <Matt_O> it's just fine
  494. [18:07:20] <beagle2> um, you can confirm my suspicions right?
  495. [18:07:32] <beagle2> it would be quite bad to power Beagle from 6v supply?
  496. [18:07:37] <av500> yes
  497. [18:07:42] <Matt_O> I can't confirm, but I don't see why you'd be trying to power it with 6V when it is clearly marked for 5V :)
  498. [18:07:50] <beagle2> hmmm, i wish our power regulator didn't blow out...
  499. [18:07:56] <av500> what?
  500. [18:08:00] <av500> get a new one
  501. [18:08:10] <ds2> it depends on how 6V is your 6V power supply
  502. [18:08:12] <av500> c'mon, its not friday!
  503. [18:08:32] <ds2> not all 6V batteries are 6V :(
  504. [18:08:36] <beagle2> av500: I hear ya, it is a matter that this thing is pretty definitively DUE, tomorrow...
  505. [18:08:47] <av500> well, the day is not over
  506. [18:08:50] <beagle2> ds2: also not all 12v batteries are 12v, as we are learning...
  507. [18:08:56] <beagle2> :'(
  508. [18:09:15] * av500 never learned about battteries in EE
  509. [18:09:48] <beagle2> same here, it is an optional class :)
  510. [18:10:03] <av500> batteriology?
  511. [18:10:15] <cbrake> prpplague: on the SDIO Mux? We had the 2nd channel going to a wifi chip
  512. [18:10:17] <ds2> "12V" tend to be LA which goes up to about 13.8
  513. [18:10:29] <cbrake> prpplague: we've since changed the design to use MMC3 for the wifi chip
  514. [18:10:42] <ds2> '6V' can range from 4.8V up to 6.9V depending on the chemistry
  515. [18:11:12] <prpplague> cbrake: ahh ok
  516. [18:11:18] <ds2> and if you are stuck, a 4.3V zener, plus a 2N3055 sitting around can work as a quick and dirty regulator
  517. [18:11:20] <prpplague> cbrake: so you left the traces?
  518. [18:11:25] <prpplague> cbrake: just unconnected?
  519. [18:11:38] <cbrake> prpplague: no, the design I tested still has the wifi attached
  520. [18:11:39] <ds2> cbrake: why MMC for wifi?
  521. [18:11:41] <av500> beagle2: Fry's is still open
  522. [18:11:46] <prpplague> cbrake: ahh ok
  523. [18:12:10] <av500> ds2: sdio
  524. [18:12:12] <av500> same pins
  525. [18:12:12] <cbrake> prpplague: the next rev will switch to the TXS0206 on both channels
  526. [18:12:20] <cbrake> ds2: MMC == SDIO in this case
  527. [18:12:22] <prpplague> cbrake: ahh ok
  528. [18:12:32] <prpplague> cbrake: i've been cap'n the second channel to ground
  529. [18:12:33] <ds2> cbrake: I know MMC == SDIO, but why did you choose to use that?
  530. [18:12:37] <cbrake> ds2: the kernel and the OMAP use the term "MMC" to refer to these interfaces
  531. [18:12:38] <ds2> performance?
  532. [18:12:47] <ds2> or was there some other reason?
  533. [18:13:54] <cbrake> ds2: for our system, we used the WL1271, which has a SDIO interface
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  535. [18:13:59] <cbrake> ds2: is that your question?
  536. [18:14:27] <ds2> cbrake: no... most chips, including the WL1271 also has a SPI port which is easier to level shift...hence the reason I am wondering why you went with the SDIO route
  537. [18:15:02] <cbrake> ds2: ahh, performance, and I assume driver support is more mature with the SDIO mode as that is what most people use
  538. [18:15:09] <cbrake> ds2: but 2nd part is an assumption
  539. [18:15:28] <ds2> cbrake: IIRC, that driver started out as SPI.
  540. [18:15:35] <ds2> 'k, just wondering
  541. [18:15:35] <av500> sdio is faster, no?
  542. [18:15:48] <ds2> sdio can be faster if you using all the pins AND the driver supports it
  543. [18:15:55] <cbrake> ds2: also, WL1271 and OMAP are both 1.8V interfaces (MMC3), so no level shifter is needed
  544. [18:16:05] <cbrake> ds2: we only need the level shifter for the user slots
  545. [18:17:04] <cbrake> ds2: I did not realize SPI was a viable option from a driver standpoint, good to konw
  546. [18:19:14] <ds2> cbrake: gotcha. I have always been curious why everyone seem to want to fight SDIO when there are easier ways
  547. [18:19:24] <cbrake> ds2: nod, good point!
  548. [18:20:21] <ds2> cbrake: I even get the sales guys pushing SDIO for some reason
  549. [18:23:30] <ds2> wasn't there a Y**** mod to b1tbake for muxing? ;)
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  554. [18:30:55] <meek_boy> hey, any idea how to get the ethernet to work on BB xM with ubuntu 10.10 running on it?
  555. [18:32:33] <Matt_O> hmm this question has come up before :)
  556. [18:32:41] <Matt_O> I don't think anyone answered
  557. [18:33:01] <meek_boy> oh
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  567. [18:53:06] <thurbad> meek_boy have you tried: sudo ifup usb0
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  569. [18:54:27] <cwillu> meek_boy, try #ubuntu-arm
  570. [18:54:36] <cwillu> although I'm pretty sure it should just work out of the box
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  572. [18:57:48] <thurbad> the trick to getting it up on the xM is that it is a usbX rather than ethX
  573. [18:58:41] <woglinde> because its on the usbhub
  574. [18:58:47] <thurbad> yup
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  576. [18:59:09] <Matt_O> woglinde, greetings, didn't see you come in
  577. [18:59:40] <woglinde> hm
  578. [18:59:45] <woglinde> nice weather
  579. [18:59:45] <thurbad> although I have a USB-ethernet adapter that shows up up as eth0 ~.~
  580. [18:59:48] <woglinde> here
  581. [19:00:08] <_av500_> here too
  582. [19:00:13] <woglinde> thurbad on the bug 2.0 its eth too
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  584. [19:02:31] <woglinde> her av5????
  585. [19:02:35] <woglinde> ups
  586. [19:02:42] <woglinde> he av500
  587. [19:02:47] <_av500_> ho
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  589. [19:03:13] <_av500_> woglinde: you wouldnt have a patch to add eventfd to uclib, would you?
  590. [19:03:50] <woglinde> av500 ask khem or blindvt
  591. [19:03:58] <woglinde> hm whats eventfd about?
  592. [19:04:05] <_av500_> woglinde: i just syscall()ed id :)
  593. [19:04:07] <_av500_> it
  594. [19:04:08] <woglinde> isnt it a kernel thingie?
  595. [19:04:12] <_av500_> woglinde: yeah
  596. [19:04:38] <woglinde> av500 btw. which uclibc version you are using
  597. [19:04:44] <_av500_> er
  598. [19:04:47] <_av500_> lemme check
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  600. [19:07:37] <_av500_> 0.9.30 or so
  601. [19:07:54] <_av500_> 0.9.30.1
  602. [19:09:11] <woglinde> hm wasnt that a bit oild
  603. [19:10:13] <_av500_> yo
  604. [19:10:40] <thurbad> is there any memoryleask checking software for angstrom or even omap3 sources?
  605. [19:10:54] <thurbad> *memory leak
  606. [19:11:28] <woglinde> there is valgrind
  607. [19:11:41] <woglinde> for x86 with a bit arm support
  608. [19:11:42] <Matt_O> thurbad, you suspect memory leaks in your own code?
  609. [19:11:53] <woglinde> dont know if we have a recipe in oe
  610. [19:11:57] <thurbad> I looked at valgrind, it says x86 oonly sources
  611. [19:12:02] <_av500_> thurbad: valgrind on the host
  612. [19:12:31] <Matt_O> new allocate memory anymore without wrapping it in boost::shared_ptr or boost::shared_array these days.. but if you're using C that won't help you
  613. [19:12:35] <_av500_> if you are only after leaks there is also dmalloc
  614. [19:12:51] <woglinde> hm dmalloc
  615. [19:12:54] <woglinde> whats this
  616. [19:12:56] <Matt_O> dangit that was supposed to say "I never allocate memory anymore..."
  617. [19:12:57] <woglinde> google
  618. [19:13:04] <thurbad> I've checked the code on my host, the module needing checking is partly neon based
  619. [19:13:25] <_av500_> you dont malloc in neon, do you?
  620. [19:13:54] <woglinde> av500 try 32rc3
  621. [19:13:56] <thurbad> no, but there is some dynamic memory allocation in the module
  622. [19:14:02] <woglinde> or git version
  623. [19:14:22] <woglinde> so you have nptl
  624. [19:15:02] <thurbad> basically I took omapfbplay and added audio to it
  625. [19:17:41] <_av500_> thurbad: ofpb run fine on x86
  626. [19:20:24] <thurbad> hmm, ok
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  628. [19:21:31] <thurbad> how do you configure the framebuffer driver for x86?
  629. [19:21:40] <_av500_> xv
  630. [19:21:43] <woglinde> lol
  631. [19:21:47] <thurbad> normally I do export OMAPFB=y
  632. [19:21:56] <woglinde> read the framebuffer doku in kernel
  633. [19:21:56] <thurbad> ah.. good to know thanks
  634. [19:22:26] <_av500_> thurbad: XV=y
  635. [19:22:47] <thurbad> and obviously leave arm unset :)
  636. [19:23:53] <thurbad> that'll work, and I can take out part of the codebase that runs in the linux pc version
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  638. [19:26:44] <_av500_> thurbad: i test 95% of my code on the pc
  639. [19:27:17] <woglinde> av500 dsp too?
  640. [19:27:20] <thurbad> so do I, it's just the video portion remaining
  641. [19:28:00] <thurbad> even have a windows version for the boss to review ~.~
  642. [19:28:24] <thurbad> completely different video subsystem there though
  643. [19:28:40] <_av500_> yep
  644. [19:28:45] <thurbad> the windows version use lilbvlc
  645. [19:28:46] <_av500_> woglinde: that the 5%
  646. [19:28:46] <woglinde> thurbad good luck
  647. [19:28:53] <_av500_> thurbad: libav here
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  657. [19:46:17] <woglinde> lumdidum
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  663. [19:57:27] <djlewis> boodilly... boodilly ...
  664. [19:58:09] <woglinde> what?
  665. [20:00:52] <djlewis> the second chorus
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  668. [20:06:28] <Matt_O> djlewis, greetings
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  670. [20:12:32] <djlewis> Matt_O: good aft
  671. [20:12:47] <Matt_O> ah yes... afternoon indeed
  672. [20:14:39] <Matt_O> djlewis, how are things in the middle of the country?
  673. [20:14:45] <djlewis> rainey
  674. [20:14:51] <Matt_O> here too
  675. [20:15:10] <djlewis> it's like monsoon season
  676. [20:15:39] <woglinde> sunny here
  677. [20:15:44] <woglinde> next days too
  678. [20:15:57] <H1N1_> 46 C here
  679. [20:16:03] <Matt_O> serously?
  680. [20:16:06] <Matt_O> that sounds really hot
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  682. [20:17:31] <Matt_O> well my prototype PCB arrived yesterday. http://my-cool-projects.blogspot.com/2011/04/prototype-pcb-has-arrived.html
  683. [20:17:39] <Matt_O> I'm prety excited
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  685. [20:24:14] <djlewis> I like big ic's
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  687. [20:24:47] <djlewis> looks like your own arduino of sorts :)
  688. [20:27:18] <Matt_O> you could look at it that way :)
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  690. [20:29:46] <xxiao> under my /etc/pokg, i have opkg.conf, arch.conf, mach-feed.conf,noarch-feed.conf, and 20 conf.sample files
  691. [20:29:56] <xxiao> .
  692. [20:30:02] <xxiao> ?
  693. [20:30:23] <xxiao> .
  694. [20:30:46] <xxiao> ?
  695. [20:30:53] <xxiao> this is strange
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  698. [20:31:12] <xxiao> test
  699. [20:32:38] <xxiao> under /etc/opkg there are opkg.conf,mach-feed.conf,arch.conf,etc, how does opkg pick them up, in what order?
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  701. [20:33:00] <xxiao> i'm tring to set up a local repo
  702. [20:34:48] <jconnolly> just add a conf to /etc/opkg with your repo url and give it a unique name, like src/gz myrepo http://path/to/my/repo
  703. [20:35:53] <jconnolly> it parses /etc/opkg/*.conf for feed urls, determines dependencies, preferred providers, etc, and picks the package with the most recent version or is preferred, or has the highest PR
  704. [20:36:03] <jconnolly> I use a local feed frequently for testing
  705. [20:36:57] <xxiao> jconnolly: thanks. but it's annoying that it's complaining some http(not my local one) are not reachable
  706. [20:37:15] <xxiao> jconnolly: maybe i should remove all those and just keep a few that is valid
  707. [20:37:34] <jconnolly> well, don't remove the ones defining arch
  708. [20:37:38] <xxiao> jconnolly: i assume opkg will check any files under /etc/opkg that is *.conf
  709. [20:37:52] <jconnolly> and if you have a pastebin with the specific output of opkg update I may be able to help
  710. [20:38:08] <xxiao> jconnolly: not right now, thanks though
  711. [20:38:59] <jconnolly> ok. definitely don't delte arch.conf though
  712. [20:39:23] <jconnolly> but yes, to start, maybe mv *.conf out of /etc/opkg and just use your own local feeds
  713. [20:40:12] <xxiao> basically i just want to copy deploy/glibc/ipk to /ipk on my nfsroot so i can install locally
  714. [20:40:30] <xxiao> under ipk i saw all, armv7a, dm816x-evm three directories
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  716. [20:42:25] <xxiao> i wonder how opkg can figure that out, as all Packages.* is length 0 under ipk directory, they're not zero in ipk/all, ipk/armv7a though
  717. [20:42:45] * xxiao is puzzled on how opkg parse the directories in deploy/ipkg
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  719. [20:43:56] <jconnolly> hmm, I thought more that you had something like lighttpd running on your build machine, you symlinked /var/www/myrepo to /path/to/tmp/deploy/glibc/ipk and had http://my-ip/myrepo as a url in an /etc/opkg/myrepo.conf
  720. [20:44:31] <jconnolly> which is what I do...
  721. [20:45:30] * woglinde too
  722. [20:45:39] <H1N1_> djlewis:
  723. [20:46:11] <H1N1_> djlewis: i can't run opencv program.
  724. [20:46:18] <H1N1_> on SAKOMAN
  725. [20:46:43] <woglinde> good nite
  726. [20:46:44] <koen> you mean angstrom?
  727. [20:46:54] <H1N1_> djlewis:- 1. http://pastebin.com/ddahejGu 2. http://pastebin.com/suyPRiwc
  728. [20:47:07] <H1N1_> yes Angstrom with Gnome
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  730. [20:48:39] <beagle2> does anyone know why my beagleboard doesn't feel like booting up anymore...?
  731. [20:48:56] * jconnolly smells a troll, backs away
  732. [20:49:02] <beagle2> theoretically, could i have bricked it by doing a poor soldering job on one of the expansion header pins...?
  733. [20:49:03] <woglinde> cannot find -lopencv_highgui
  734. [20:49:16] <H1N1_> yes
  735. [20:49:16] <woglinde> install the bloddy lib
  736. [20:49:17] <djlewis> beagle2: give it some doggie bisquits
  737. [20:49:38] <woglinde> hm seems an opencv-dev meta package is needed
  738. [20:49:57] <H1N1_> i hav done opkg update opkg install opencv opkg install libopencv-imgproc-dev
  739. [20:49:59] <woglinde> for people which cannt understand linking
  740. [20:50:01] <djlewis> H1N1_: type pkg-config opencv --cflags --libs
  741. [20:50:09] <djlewis> H1N1_: see if all is in place
  742. [20:50:17] <woglinde> libopencv-imgproc-dev is highgui?
  743. [20:50:23] <woglinde> geez
  744. [20:50:28] <djlewis> woglinde: no
  745. [20:50:33] <H1N1_> root@omap3-multi:/program# pkg-config opencv --cflags --libs -I/usr/include/opencv -lopencv_core -lopencv_imgproc -lopencv_highgui -lopencv_ml -lopencv_video -lopencv_features2d -lopencv_calib3d -lopencv_objdetect -lopencv_contrib -lopencv_legacy
  746. [20:50:50] <djlewis> shows it is installed
  747. [20:50:59] <H1N1_> yes
  748. [20:51:28] <djlewis> I suspect the link is missing
  749. [20:51:53] <woglinde> opkg install libopencv-highgui-dev?
  750. [20:52:12] <djlewis> might work, so much has changed
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  752. [20:52:39] <H1N1_> i m trying "opkg install libopencv-highgui-dev"
  753. [20:53:16] <djlewis> the lib links have been screwed since several months now
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  756. [20:53:51] <woglinde> ?
  757. [20:54:05] <woglinde> meta package
  758. [20:54:43] <H1N1_> hey
  759. [20:55:16] <djlewis> hey what
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  761. [20:55:47] <H1N1_> /usr/lib/gcc/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/4.3.3/../../../../arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/bin/ld: cannot find -lopencv_ml collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
  762. [20:55:55] <H1N1_> new Error
  763. [20:56:13] <woglinde> opkg install libopencv-ml?
  764. [20:56:47] <H1N1_> K
  765. [20:56:51] <djlewis> strange as all that didnt used to be necessary
  766. [20:57:20] <djlewis> I simply installed the basics, the lib links were missing, I manually made them and it works.
  767. [20:58:35] <H1N1_> it seems i hav to install all missing libraries from "opkg install libopencv-xxx-dev"
  768. [20:58:54] <djlewis> might help, koen did suggest it
  769. [20:59:06] <woglinde> o.O
  770. [20:59:18] <woglinde> when libs are missing
  771. [20:59:31] <djlewis> they arent missing.
  772. [20:59:36] <woglinde> how else they will come to the device?
  773. [21:00:02] <djlewis> i suspect if he did ls -al /usr/lib/*opencv* they are there
  774. [21:00:26] <woglinde> runtime?
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  778. [21:00:38] <woglinde> or to compile against?
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  781. [21:01:45] <djlewis> http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/4a6cac8fe52361f1
  782. [21:02:02] <djlewis> opencv ^^^^
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  790. [21:10:17] <H1N1_> m installing libs manullay ..
  791. [21:10:33] <woglinde> o.O
  792. [21:10:44] <woglinde> what else
  793. [21:10:48] <djlewis> it only takes what I listed in the link if the lib links are fixed
  794. [21:11:12] <woglinde> good nite
  795. [21:11:15] * woglinde (~woglinde@p5B1764AB.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Quit: zapp)
  796. [21:11:32] <djlewis> H1N1_: but is is good you try this way as it too needs to be verified :)
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  798. [21:12:29] <H1N1_> right
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  800. [21:14:56] <H1N1_> djlewis: http://pastebin.com/8V7Tvq8e
  801. [21:15:45] <H1N1_> i think its working now ,may be i can see output on HDMI .what do u think??
  802. [21:15:53] <djlewis> H1N1_: cool
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  804. [21:16:51] <H1N1_> can i see output on HDMI now?
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  808. [21:19:37] <djlewis> dang shame all the -dev's have to be installed
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  810. [21:19:54] <H1N1_> yes
  811. [21:20:04] <H1N1_> so its working . right??
  812. [21:20:12] <djlewis> you tell us
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  814. [21:20:21] <H1N1_> i m asking
  815. [21:20:29] <H1N1_> just watch
  816. [21:20:30] <H1N1_> http://pastebin.com/8V7Tvq8e
  817. [21:20:42] <djlewis> if your progs build and execute then yes.
  818. [21:21:12] <H1N1_> yea program is running but can't see output Display .
  819. [21:21:16] <djlewis> did you install the gtk libs and devs?
  820. [21:21:49] <H1N1_> root@omap3-multi:/program# opkg install gtk+
  821. [21:21:50] <H1N1_> Package gtk+ (2.20.1-r10.4.6) installed in root is up to date.
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  823. [21:22:27] <H1N1_> root@omap3-multi:/program# opkg install libgtk2.0-dev Unknown package 'libgtk2.0-dev'.
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  826. [21:23:03] <djlewis> okkg list gtk2*
  827. [21:23:06] <djlewis> opkg
  828. [21:23:37] <H1N1_> no
  829. [21:23:46] <H1N1_> root@omap3-multi:/program# opkg list gtk2 root@omap3-multi:/program#
  830. [21:23:55] <H1N1_> it seems not installed
  831. [21:24:47] <djlewis> H1N1_: opencv libs have simple windowing functions
  832. [21:25:59] <H1N1_> but what to do for install GTk lib & include? i hav tried opkg install gtk+ libgtk2.0-dev for that as u know
  833. [21:26:16] <H1N1_> anything that i m missing?
  834. [21:29:14] <H1N1_> djlewis: if i connect HDMI port to LCD , will it display or no?
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  836. [21:29:41] <djlewis> I use a Samsung 17" DVI monitor with my BB hemi
  837. [21:29:45] <djlewis> hdmi
  838. [21:30:27] <djlewis> depends on your monitor and beagleboard video settings
  839. [21:30:54] <djlewis> H1N1_: try building the sample: camshiftdemo.c
  840. [21:31:13] <H1N1_> of course it is running . i m asking abt my program output
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  842. [21:31:30] <H1N1_> in which i m getting error "Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:"
  843. [21:31:30] <djlewis> H1 if your monitor is working then you will have a normal gui screen with the sakoman full build.
  844. [21:32:10] <djlewis> H1N1_: try building the sample: camshiftdemo.c
  845. [21:32:22] <H1N1_> where is "camshiftdemo.c"?
  846. [21:32:24] <H1N1_> dir
  847. [21:32:25] <H1N1_> ?
  848. [21:32:32] <djlewis> came with the opencv-samples
  849. [21:33:08] <H1N1_> not installed opencv-sample
  850. [21:33:44] <H1N1_> i m doing opkg install opencv-samples
  851. [21:33:46] <H1N1_> wait...
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  853. [21:34:01] <H1N1_> process going on..
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  856. [21:35:44] <H1N1_> djlewis: opencv-samples r installed
  857. [21:36:19] <H1N1_> can u tell me PATH for sample?
  858. [21:36:27] <H1N1_> directory..
  859. [21:37:08] <djlewis> you can use opkg to tell you
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  862. [21:38:08] <H1N1_> but its now giving path
  863. [21:38:10] <H1N1_> root@omap3-multi:~# opkg list opencv-samples opencv-samples - 2.1.0+svnr3217-r0.6 - Opencv : The Open Computer Vision Library
  864. [21:39:16] <djlewis> wrong argument
  865. [21:39:57] <H1N1_> djlewis: just wait for 5 min. i m taking from my PC.
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  868. [21:43:30] <_av500_> back
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  870. [21:46:16] <H1N1__> dilewis: camshiftdemo.c is running without error.
  871. [21:46:44] <H1N1__> but not getting any display window.
  872. [21:47:10] <djlewis> H1N1__: you are in a gui on your Beableboard doing this?
  873. [21:47:21] <djlewis> as in at the desktop?
  874. [21:47:29] <H1N1__> on BB-xm
  875. [21:47:44] <djlewis> so you have a green leafy screen?
  876. [21:47:52] <H1N1__> no
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  878. [21:48:44] <H1N1__> but currrently i don't have any LCD TV or using X-server.
  879. [21:48:57] <djlewis> what are you expecting it to open on?
  880. [21:49:31] <H1N1__> image window.
  881. [21:49:39] <djlewis> on what display?
  882. [21:49:50] <djlewis> somebody help me here, I am lost
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  884. [21:50:12] <H1N1__> djlewis: cool just listen whole things..
  885. [21:50:41] * _av500_ hands djlewis a map op Iowa
  886. [21:52:02] <djlewis> i don't think anyone needs a map for iowa ;)
  887. [21:52:14] <djlewis> very flat iirc
  888. [21:54:00] <H1N1__> djlewis: we r running edge.cpp (sample program).so it will give output image.but currently in my console it give GTK-warning. i think it will display output image(after run edge program) when i test on HDMI . so i was asking am i right?? will it give Display on HDMI?? i can't test now bcoz i don't have LCD TV or Ethernet cable ..GOT IT?
  889. [21:55:17] <H1N1__> *sorry 4 bad language ..
  890. [21:55:58] <_av500_> H1N1__: it does not work like that
  891. [21:56:17] <_av500_> unless you run an X server you will get nothing on hdmi
  892. [21:56:53] <djlewis> _av500_: will it give a GTK-warning when built?
  893. [21:57:04] <_av500_> no ideq
  894. [21:57:07] <_av500_> idea
  895. [21:57:09] <djlewis> me either
  896. [21:57:38] <_av500_> but running sw that wants to open an x window on the console will not work
  897. [22:01:23] <H1N1__> sorry nothing getting . .
  898. [22:02:52] <djlewis> H1N1__: it is just a warning so it may work fine with your screen.
  899. [22:03:04] <H1N1__> K
  900. [22:03:33] <H1N1__> now i m getting everything..
  901. [22:03:36] <djlewis> H1N1__: the sample i listed uses opencv lib windows, so no gtk error
  902. [22:05:53] <H1N1__> & if i want to run proram with GTk, then what to do??
  903. [22:06:36] <djlewis> make sure gtk-dev2.xxxx is installed. May require more
  904. [22:06:47] <djlewis> like the dev's
  905. [22:07:53] <H1N1__> after that , to run program ,any change in gcc `pkg-config opencv --cflags --libs` test.cpp -o test?
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  907. [22:08:47] <djlewis> sorry, I dont recall
  908. [22:12:20] <H1N1__> to run opencv program i m doing :-1.gcc `pkg-config opencv --cflags --libs` test.cpp -o test? 2. ./test now after install gtk(all necessory lib & include files), To run program(opencv with gtk) what r changes in previous step???
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  910. [22:12:41] <H1N1__> *test?->test
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  912. [22:15:16] <H1N1__> djlewis:to run opencv program i m doing :-1.gcc `pkg-config opencv --cflags --libs` test.cpp -o test 2 ./test now after install gtk(all necessory lib & include files), To run program(opencv with gtk) what r changes in previous step???
  913. [22:16:42] <djlewis> H1N1__: (05:08:48 PM) djlewis: sorry, I dont recall
  914. [22:17:47] <H1N1__> K i will try it
  915. [22:18:51] <djlewis> H1N1__: when i get home later i'll shar my notes with you.
  916. [22:18:58] <djlewis> s/shar/share
  917. [22:19:20] <H1N1__> k thanx
  918. [22:20:17] <djlewis> H1N1__: you in India?
  919. [22:21:02] <H1N1__> now-a-days in india
  920. [22:21:28] <H1N1__> in cousin home.. IIT Gandhinagar
  921. [22:22:22] <H1N1__> where r u from??
  922. [22:22:27] <djlewis> H1N1__: it will be a 2 to 3 hours before I am home and on line.
  923. [22:22:36] <djlewis> Central Arkansas, USA
  924. [22:22:40] <djlewis> Little Rock
  925. [22:23:08] <H1N1__> hey can you send mail to me??
  926. [22:23:32] <H1N1__> here time is 3:53 AM
  927. [22:23:55] <djlewis> H1N1__: you are up early. I prefer to keep it on this irc.
  928. [22:24:21] <djlewis> H1N1__: yes I can
  929. [22:24:22] <H1N1__> K sure i will be there
  930. [22:24:31] <H1N1__> what ? mail?
  931. [22:24:38] <djlewis> yes
  932. [22:24:50] <H1N1__> johnicx@gmail.com
  933. [22:25:10] <H1N1__> can u mail on that without fail?
  934. [22:25:21] <_av500_> failmail
  935. [22:25:31] <djlewis> make me a money offer :)
  936. [22:26:14] <H1N1__> :p
  937. [22:27:22] <H1N1__> k i will come here after 3 hr
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  939. [22:31:50] <H1N1__> djlewis: do u have ur blog??
  940. [22:32:38] * djlewis does not keep no stinkin blog
  941. [22:32:40] <djlewis> :)
  942. [22:35:04] <H1N1__> djlewis: ll u available after 3 hr for ur notes?
  943. [22:36:36] <djlewis> H1, I should be, ping me.
  944. [22:38:24] <H1N1__> K bye
  945. [22:38:25] <H1N1__> cya
  946. [22:38:35] <djlewis> later.
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  948. [22:39:54] <beagle2> hmmm, so my user lights aren't even turning on on my beagleboard...
  949. [22:40:15] <beagle2> I am thinking i shorted something when i did my botched solder job...?
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  951. [22:40:41] <beagle2> the only small area i touched is near pin 23 of the expansion header, btw
  952. [22:41:11] <djlewis> beagle2: did you look and see what pins are neighbors?
  953. [22:41:40] <beagle2> i assume you are referring to their functions...?
  954. [22:41:46] <beagle2> like, in the SRM?
  955. [22:43:12] <beagle2> am i the only one that thinks it is odd for the expansion pins to be configured to something vital in the out-of-box version of the board though?
  956. [22:46:08] <ds2> hmmmm
  957. [22:48:04] <beagle2> ds2: was that in regards to my issue?
  958. [22:48:45] <ds2> prehaps, prehaps not
  959. [22:50:19] <beagle2> :'(
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  961. [22:53:20] <beagle2> djlewis: it looks like all pins are suppose to be in 'safe mode' during power-up...
  962. [22:53:21] <djlewis> beagle2: i thought you said you would get someone with soldering experience to solder it.
  963. [22:53:29] <beagle2> is that just a fancy phrase for floating?
  964. [22:53:44] <beagle2> djlewis: they were taking too long...
  965. [22:53:49] <beagle2> and i thought i was being careful...
  966. [22:54:14] <beagle2> isn't low 400's a safe temp to be running the solder at?
  967. [22:54:41] <beagle2> (in fahrenheit, i think)
  968. [22:55:14] <ds2> depends on type of solder ;)
  969. [22:55:22] <beagle2> mmm
  970. [22:55:32] <beagle2> i mean in terms of freaking melting the board though...
  971. [22:55:43] <ds2> again, it depends on type of solder
  972. [22:55:53] <beagle2> ...?
  973. [22:56:02] <ds2> the folks over on the other side of the pond wants to make life difficult and insist on using higher temp solder
  974. [22:56:04] <beagle2> oh, cause it conducts the heat, duh
  975. [22:56:12] <ds2> one that grow nice conductive whiskers over time
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  977. [22:57:36] <djlewis> beagle2: with power unplugged from BB using a DVM look for resistance shorts from pin 23 to neighbors on all sides
  978. [22:57:37] <_av500_> melting the board?
  979. [22:57:43] <_av500_> wow
  980. [22:58:27] <ds2> _av500_: probally a new RoHS thing requiring thermally degradable PCBs :D
  981. [22:58:48] <_av500_> yeah, pencil traces on cardboard
  982. [22:58:55] <_av500_> what else is needed...
  983. [22:59:23] <_av500_> makes rework easy too
  984. [23:00:27] <beagle2> 'RoHS'?
  985. [23:00:35] <_av500_> google
  986. [23:00:35] <beagle2> djlewis: good idea, i'm on it
  987. [23:00:56] <ds2> A greek highschool? 'Ro' HS? :D
  988. [23:01:48] <_av500_> ds2: its the Read only version of the omap3 HD
  989. [23:01:52] <_av500_> HS
  990. [23:02:02] <ds2> ah, my bad
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  992. [23:03:30] <beagle2> djlewis: all 27 other pins check out in relation to pin 23; no shorts.
  993. [23:03:52] <djlewis> hmmm.
  994. [23:04:20] <djlewis> i was kinda suspecting pin 25 shorted to 23
  995. [23:04:39] <beagle2> ya, 25 sounds scary on the SRM...
  996. [23:04:57] <_av500_> what is 25 and 23?
  997. [23:04:59] <ds2> wtf is 25?
  998. [23:05:10] <_av500_> 100V
  999. [23:05:14] <djlewis> nUSB-DC_EN
  1000. [23:05:17] <beagle2> pin 26 would reset my board when i tried to measure it with the DVM btw, is that normal?
  1001. [23:05:33] <djlewis> I said with power unplugged dude
  1002. [23:05:40] <beagle2> yaya, i did, relax
  1003. [23:05:40] <ds2> djlewis: what connector????
  1004. [23:05:45] <beagle2> i'm saying BEFORE
  1005. [23:05:49] <beagle2> when it was working...:)
  1006. [23:05:50] <djlewis> Exp header
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  1008. [23:06:04] <djlewis> 14x2
  1009. [23:06:06] <beagle2> i can follow instructions, don't worry...
  1010. [23:06:07] <ds2> there is a nUSB-DC_EN signal????
  1011. [23:06:16] <beagle2> if someone had said "don't solder to the beagle'
  1012. [23:06:20] <beagle2> i would've listen,
  1013. [23:06:21] <djlewis> 25 nUSB_DC_EN
  1014. [23:06:22] <beagle2> probably...
  1015. [23:06:27] <_av500_> there was a guy who killed his panda by shorting 5V and 1.8V
  1016. [23:06:58] <beagle2> av500: should that theoretically be possible in the vicinity of the expansion header?
  1017. [23:07:04] * djlewis is referencing BBSRM rev C3.1
  1018. [23:07:18] <_av500_> beagle2: you can read the SRM as much as i can
  1019. [23:07:22] <djlewis> time to head home guys...
  1020. [23:07:44] * _av500_ heads to bad
  1021. [23:07:45] <ds2> shorting 5V to 1.8V is trival
  1022. [23:07:50] <_av500_> bed even
  1023. [23:07:52] <ds2> a jumper header will do tha tnicely
  1024. [23:08:22] <beagle2> my SRm says it is version 0.0...does that make sense?
  1025. [23:09:36] <beagle2> setting the OMAP's memory for the pinMux shouldn't screw things up, right?
  1026. [23:09:49] <beagle2> considering i am doing that part the same as always, on my new board now...
  1027. [23:09:53] <ds2> depends.
  1028. [23:09:57] <beagle2> i really think it was the soldering.
  1029. [23:10:15] <beagle2> ds2: i do it in user-space, via a call to devmem2 in the terminal
  1030. [23:10:36] <beagle2> and it resets every time i power down the board, so i think it's fine on bootup...?
  1031. [23:10:37] <ds2> using devmem2 is generally a bad idea unless you completely understand what you are doing
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  1033. [23:10:53] <beagle2> oh...Ceriand told me to. :(
  1034. [23:10:55] <_av500_> soldering while powered???
  1035. [23:11:09] <beagle2> av500: i'm a newb not an idiot, alright?
  1036. [23:11:19] <beagle2> :)
  1037. [23:11:26] <_av500_> calm
  1038. [23:11:31] <ds2> no worse then working on live high voltage lines :D
  1039. [23:11:43] <_av500_> beagle2: so what did u solder?
  1040. [23:11:57] * _av500_ cant think of more than soldering pin header
  1041. [23:11:59] * _av500_ cant think of more than soldering pin headers
  1042. [23:12:25] <beagle2> av500: i was (attempting to) solder a single lead to pin 23 of the expansion header
  1043. [23:12:30] <_av500_> ds2: in fact, those guys dont have mains powered solder irons
  1044. [23:12:45] <_av500_> beagle2: a lead? you solder a pin header
  1045. [23:12:56] <_av500_> and then use a matching connector...
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  1047. [23:13:05] <beagle2> um, oops...
  1048. [23:13:21] <_av500_> but even soldering a single lead should be ok
  1049. [23:13:24] <beagle2> is it just a better mating to the board, is that the motivation?
  1050. [23:13:44] <beagle2> aye, i know it wasn't 'correct', but it was all i had handy at the moment ^^
  1051. [23:14:00] <beagle2> if i needed like a lot of pins and such, i would've used headers
  1052. [23:14:30] <beagle2> but ya, this soldering thing was after i had tested out that pin's voltage, via DVM,
  1053. [23:14:47] <beagle2> and figured out how to set it to GPIO, and control it within my C code...
  1054. [23:15:00] <ds2> are you sure your DVM is safe?
  1055. [23:15:01] <_av500_> beagle2: anyway, its dead, so move on
  1056. [23:15:15] <_av500_> a DMZ should be safe....
  1057. [23:15:19] <ds2> i.e. it doesn't apply 200000V's in the continuity check function
  1058. [23:15:20] <beagle2> something that bothers me: the pin isn't set at the VERY start of power-on, during boot up,
  1059. [23:15:28] <_av500_> and?
  1060. [23:15:32] <beagle2> it is set after OS loads, via a startup script
  1061. [23:15:37] <_av500_> and?
  1062. [23:15:46] <_av500_> what is connected to that mystery pin?
  1063. [23:15:52] <beagle2> so like, it is some other signal prior to that, possibly a dangerous input signal...?
  1064. [23:15:58] <beagle2> oh, ummm...
  1065. [23:16:01] <beagle2> *SRM...
  1066. [23:16:08] <ds2> self destruct enable? :D
  1067. [23:16:29] <_av500_> beagle2: chip designers are not idiots either :)
  1068. [23:16:32] <beagle2> I2C2_SDA is pin 23
  1069. [23:16:43] <ds2> _av500_: uh...errr...
  1070. [23:16:50] <beagle2> i regretably do not know what that does...
  1071. [23:16:56] <beagle2> 'something important?
  1072. [23:16:56] <_av500_> ds2: for certain amount of ....
  1073. [23:17:17] <beagle2> i think it is another type of output i could refer to, if i understand it...?
  1074. [23:17:34] <beagle2> you know what REALLY gets me thought:
  1075. [23:17:49] <beagle2> i had the thing working, with the lead soldered on the board,
  1076. [23:17:58] <beagle2> and then roughly 24 hours later it died,
  1077. [23:18:20] <ds2> "this solder joint will self destruct in 24 hours."
  1078. [23:18:30] <beagle2> and I relized that the lead wasn't quite secure in the hole, and was spinning a bit, bearing away at the bore...
  1079. [23:18:43] <beagle2> hey, i'm just telling you what happened.
  1080. [23:18:53] <_av500_> beagle2: make a note to yourself: dont solder any more
  1081. [23:18:58] <beagle2> i think i just stressed the crud outa that pin and the general region...
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  1083. [23:19:14] <beagle2> *updates major to CSE...
  1084. [23:19:22] <_av500_> ds2: you see now what i keep demanding screw terminals?
  1085. [23:19:27] <_av500_> why
  1086. [23:19:37] <ds2> _av500_: nope. then I'd be very bored.
  1087. [23:19:51] <_av500_> you can have an adaptor board for you
  1088. [23:19:56] <_av500_> screw mount to smt
  1089. [23:20:12] <_av500_> a screw-on micro via
  1090. [23:20:19] <beagle2> av500: that'd take the place of soldering, i am assuming? :)
  1091. [23:20:43] <_av500_> you could link libraries together from the safety of your pc....
  1092. [23:20:45] <ds2> _av500_: if you ask for spring terminals, I might go along with that
  1093. [23:20:52] <_av500_> deal
  1094. [23:21:00] <_av500_> gn
  1095. [23:21:10] <ds2> =)
  1096. [23:21:17] <beagle2> so...final diagnosis is a dead patient here?
  1097. [23:22:12] <ds2> I think it is more of a disagreement on your statement 'i am a newb not an idiot'... the reverse seems to be the case ;)
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  1099. [23:26:11] <beagle2> i consider 3 months of 'actual' EE work to be newbish
  1100. [23:26:24] <beagle2> and i've been relatively careful with my toys so far
  1101. [23:26:31] <beagle2> besides that one fire i started...
  1102. [23:26:51] <beagle2> i am just locked in as a software guy...any hardware i touch dies instantaneously.
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  1106. [23:46:35] <beagle2> alright, see ya guys
  1107. [23:46:42] <beagle2> thanks for humoring this newb/idiot :)
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