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IRC Log for 2011-05-06

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  74. [04:37:51] <Russ> hmmm...getting a readable response from this mailing list does not bode well
  75. [04:37:56] <Russ> I got 7 out of office replies
  76. [04:40:31] <Russ> fancy, "He shall address your correspondence as soon as he is able."
  77. [04:40:36] <Russ> I didn't know the king was subscribed
  78. [04:41:38] <Russ> and my favorite "Out of Office" reply, "Dear sender I finished my career in [company name]".
  79. [04:41:59] <Russ> (actual name omitted to protect the guilt)
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  81. [04:43:13] <Russ> 15 bonus points, they didn't include anything about the mailing list in the headers
  82. [04:43:53] <_av500_> which ml?
  83. [04:44:42] <Russ> si-list (signal integrity)
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  104. [06:00:17] <hitlin37> i got this when compiling this glib on android..it says "C compiler cannot create executables "http://pastebin.com/G7bB7PbQ
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  107. [06:19:02] <hitlin37> ok i got it..in new version of ndk(r5) its arm-linux-androideabi-gcc
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  124. [07:23:26] <av500> http://www.geek.com/articles/games/game-developer-david-braben-creates-a-usb-stick-pc-for-25-2011055/
  125. [07:23:32] <av500> fruitboards arrive
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  127. [07:24:59] <dm8tbr> heh
  128. [07:25:02] <av500> gm
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  132. [07:25:05] * dm8tbr was about to paste that URL
  133. [07:25:11] <dm8tbr> gm
  134. [07:25:23] <av500> but I had the stronger coffee!
  135. [07:25:31] <dm8tbr> so it seems
  136. [07:25:49] <dm8tbr> what's the SoC used in that thing? It only says Arm11
  137. [07:26:04] * Guest832 is now known as lag
  138. [07:26:15] <av500> nobody knows
  139. [07:26:27] <av500> maybe a low end QC but that would be strange
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  141. [07:26:37] <av500> sansumg mabye?
  142. [07:27:48] <av500> dm8tbr: http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_t7_00-3915.php
  143. [07:30:03] <dm8tbr> nuhu, the picture looks like a n8
  144. [07:33:41] <av500> hmm, not QC, none has the hdmi out specs
  145. [07:35:38] <av500> Samsung S3C6410
  146. [07:36:38] <av500> but that does not do 1080p out
  147. [07:37:46] <av500> in fact the combination of arm11/700/128MB and 1080p is wierd
  148. [07:37:49] <av500> I call bogus
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  150. [07:38:27] <ds2> it didn't say anything about decoding media at 1080p
  151. [07:38:42] <ds2> maybe it just line doubles to generate a signal at 1080p?
  152. [07:38:44] <av500> ha
  153. [07:38:50] <av500> I know, its a rockchip
  154. [07:38:52] <av500> of course
  155. [07:38:56] <av500> makes total sense
  156. [07:39:10] <av500> 2918
  157. [07:39:13] <av500> 2919
  158. [07:39:20] <ds2> you can probally much do that with a gumstix so I don't see the excitement
  159. [07:39:43] <av500> ds2: 1080p is an issue for bandwidth alone, BB cant do it
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  161. [07:40:27] <ds2> av500: I mean the line doubling method
  162. [07:40:37] <av500> ds2: right
  163. [07:40:51] <av500> ds2: but who would desing such a hdmi block?
  164. [07:40:53] <av500> for what?
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  166. [07:41:12] <ds2> av500: you think they are providing real HDMI, not DVI on a HDMI connector?
  167. [07:41:26] <av500> same thing wrt bandwidth
  168. [07:41:52] <av500> ds2: in fact, you are right, one could use something like DSS to line double with less bandwidth
  169. [07:41:56] <ds2> memory or RF bandwidth?
  170. [07:42:08] <av500> ds2: as said, you are right
  171. [07:42:24] <av500> then all you need is a high enuf pixclock
  172. [07:42:29] * av500 glares at TI
  173. [07:42:41] <ds2> I was thinking of something even cruder
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  175. [07:43:09] <ds2> like a FPGA with 1 line of memory and have it line double into something like the TFP410
  176. [07:43:20] <av500> right
  177. [07:43:21] <ds2> processor won't even know anything about it
  178. [07:43:26] <av500> but not for $50
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  180. [07:43:31] <woglinde_> hi ant
  181. [07:43:50] <av500> ds2: for that bom its all in the SOC or it does not exist
  182. [07:44:11] <ds2> av500: prehaps it is one of the import SoC with wierd blocks in them?
  183. [07:44:36] <ds2> Telechip is one suspect but they don't seem that open with their offerings
  184. [07:44:51] <av500> ds2: as said, rockchip
  185. [07:45:23] <ds2> av500: *nod* many of those guys hiding under ever rock and boulder
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  188. [07:58:42] <koen> woglinde_: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/angstrom/systemd/beagleboot-5.txt
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  190. [07:59:22] <av500> koen: now add pulseaudio
  191. [07:59:34] <koen> :)
  192. [07:59:59] <av500> and don the body armour
  193. [08:00:58] <woglinde_> koen cool what was the problem with the tty's?
  194. [08:00:58] <koen> woglinde_: OK to commit the patch so you can fix up epoll later?
  195. [08:01:04] <koen> woglinde_: no udev :)
  196. [08:01:13] <woglinde_> udev died?
  197. [08:01:41] <woglinde_> koen its booting
  198. [08:01:45] <woglinde_> so commit it
  199. [08:01:54] <ant_work> koen: :P hello. I've seen you're fiddling with udev. Any fresh idea about the cache and /tmp RO?
  200. [08:01:57] <woglinde_> epsen will be glad too
  201. [08:02:02] <woglinde_> ups espen
  202. [08:02:55] <koen> woglinde_: udev didn't get started, the systemd files didn't get packagted
  203. [08:03:09] <koen> ant_work: /tmp should never be RO
  204. [08:03:21] <woglinde_> hm how long is the boot with busybox init
  205. [08:04:45] <ant_work> koen: even postponing the udev-cache initscript (now S36) did not help
  206. [08:05:18] <ant_work> I feel there is some other adjustment to pick from oe-core
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  210. [08:06:08] <ant_work> well, in fstab
  211. [08:10:26] <ant_work> none /tmp tmpfs defaults 0 0
  212. [08:10:52] <ant_work> (this is NOT in oe-core btw)
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  227. [09:03:56] <Mason> hello folkses!
  228. [09:04:07] <Mason> anybody here worked with PWM on the beagleboard?
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  230. [09:04:26] <av500> there was a gsoc project last year
  231. [09:04:42] <Mason> yes, i do know about that. have seen the page.
  232. [09:05:02] <Mason> have questions about the 'compiling your kernel' part
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  234. [09:08:19] <Mason> btw, how do we call an executable file from within a C program?
  235. [09:08:34] <mru> exec()
  236. [09:08:41] <mru> usually fork() first
  237. [09:09:16] <Mason> i have written a shell script for accessing GPIOs, and I have changed permissions to executable using chmod, and I want to call it at some point in the program
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  239. [09:09:28] <Mason> mru: okay
  240. [09:09:36] <mru> aren't there better ways of doing that?
  241. [09:09:57] <Mason> mru: i'm not aware of those. such as?
  242. [09:10:47] <Mason> what do you suggest?
  243. [09:11:57] <woglinde_> using c directly for manipulating the gpios?
  244. [09:11:59] <av500> what does the shell script do?
  245. [09:12:09] <woglinde_> av500 poking around in /sys
  246. [09:12:11] <woglinde_> what else
  247. [09:12:25] <av500> woglinde_: that calls for python running in the cloud!!
  248. [09:12:55] <woglinde_> hm I think python has nice /sys/gpio support?
  249. [09:13:39] <Mason> http://bbfordummies.blogspot.com/2009/07/1.html
  250. [09:13:48] <Mason> this is what i was referring to
  251. [09:14:07] <woglinde_> as I said
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  254. [09:16:28] <av500> Mason: no need to call a shell script to use sysfs
  255. [09:16:46] <av500> int fd = open( "sys/foo/bar/...", ... );
  256. [09:16:52] <av500> write( fd, ....)
  257. [09:16:56] <av500> read( fd, .... )
  258. [09:17:02] <av500> its unix, everything is a file
  259. [09:17:08] <av500> even filey
  260. [09:17:10] <av500> even files
  261. [09:17:37] <Mason> ohkay
  262. [09:19:58] <Mason> hmm
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  266. [09:23:37] <Mason> that would be a better option
  267. [09:23:52] <Mason> i'm not really fond of writing scripts
  268. [09:24:10] <Mason> the problem was because i have call it from within a program
  269. [09:24:31] <mru> is there no ioctl interface to that stuff?
  270. [09:25:08] <Mason> i'm just trying to connect the GPIOs to a simple blink detection program, that when i blink, an LED would light up, just for testing.
  271. [09:25:13] <woglinde_> mru no?
  272. [09:25:52] <av500> maybe for a dev/gpio...
  273. [09:28:25] <Mason> woglinde: how do we directly access the GPIOs using a C program?
  274. [09:28:52] <Mason> PS: i'm bad at programming, hence the question. not coz i want a ready-made solution. :)
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  276. [09:29:41] <woglinde_> mason av500 already told you
  277. [09:29:54] <Mason> oh oh
  278. [09:30:25] <Mason> that way
  279. [09:30:38] <Mason> i thought you'd meant by coding for the ARM processor
  280. [09:30:46] <Mason> :)
  281. [09:30:47] <woglinde_> ?
  282. [09:30:59] <woglinde_> go write some code
  283. [09:31:09] <woglinde_> dont forget to close your filehandles
  284. [09:31:13] <av500> Mason: let the compiler write the arm code for you
  285. [09:31:29] <av500> woglinde_: every time you leak a file handle, god kills a kitten
  286. [09:32:26] <Mason> av500: okay. yep. got that.
  287. [09:32:44] <Mason> woglinde_: will take care of that too.
  288. [09:34:47] <Mason> btw, what is the max fps anyone has gotten using opencv video capturing?
  289. [09:35:10] <Mason> mine is really sticky...lot of lag...
  290. [09:36:00] <Mason> any way to get 30fps?
  291. [09:37:06] <mru> no
  292. [09:37:15] <mru> it's opencv, dude
  293. [09:37:59] <av500> Mason: using a webcam anbd v4l2?
  294. [09:38:21] <av500> try a standalone v4l2 capture example and check fps there
  295. [09:38:30] <av500> then you know whether to blame usb or opencv
  296. [09:38:45] <Mason> ohkay
  297. [09:38:54] <mru> try a _good_ example
  298. [09:38:59] <mru> not one littered with memcpy
  299. [09:39:21] * av500 seds memcpy to memmove
  300. [09:40:26] <Mason> i was hoping to develop a human-computer interaction system using opencv on the beagleboard, but this video frame rate thing is washing away all my plans of world domination.. :P
  301. [09:40:27] <mru> the only difference there is that memmove is guaranteed to shoot you in the head whereas memcpy has a choice of head or heart
  302. [09:40:36] <mru> it's murder either way
  303. [09:40:39] <Mason> coz those applications run perfectly on a laptop
  304. [09:40:43] <woglinde_> flash
  305. [09:40:59] <woglinde_> mason same card?
  306. [09:41:04] <woglinde_> ups cam
  307. [09:41:06] <woglinde_> args
  308. [09:41:52] <Mason> woglinde: same card?
  309. [09:42:04] <Mason> as in?
  310. [09:42:08] <av500> same cam
  311. [09:42:17] <av500> as in typo :)
  312. [09:42:22] <Mason> oh
  313. [09:42:23] <Mason> :)
  314. [09:42:24] <Mason> yeah
  315. [09:42:25] <Mason> same cam
  316. [09:42:39] <woglinde_> hm I guess its faulty musb
  317. [09:42:56] <av500> musb?
  318. [09:43:01] <av500> ehci rather
  319. [09:43:11] <woglinde_> hm
  320. [09:43:21] <Mason> apparently even the 5M cam from leopard gives 15fps only
  321. [09:43:42] <Mason> i thought that would be faster, seeing itz directly connected to the DM3730
  322. [09:43:50] <av500> 15fps at 5mp
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  324. [09:43:55] <av500> thats not so bad
  325. [09:43:56] <woglinde_> at which res?
  326. [09:44:05] <Mason> 640x480
  327. [09:44:20] <av500> Mason: bad driver prolly
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  329. [09:44:31] <av500> getting 720p@30fps into a dm3730 is no problem
  330. [09:44:50] <Mason> ohkay, so driver issues eh?
  331. [09:44:54] <Mason> alas. :(
  332. [09:45:53] <Mason> http://maxgalemin.blogspot.com/2011/04/li-5m03-camera-on-beagleboard-xm.html
  333. [09:46:06] <Mason> max's 2nd last comment says the same
  334. [09:47:23] <Mason> 10 days to my final project presentation. wish me luck folks! :)
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  336. [09:56:18] <woglinde_> hm
  337. [09:56:25] <woglinde_> he will need it
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  381. [11:55:51] <koen> woglinde_: any suggestion on how to split out the serial getty so that systemd isn't machine specific?
  382. [11:56:26] * mru suggests putting lennart in an isolation cell
  383. [11:56:32] <koen> woglinde_: I was thinking of putting the getty file and symlink in a seperate package that gets RRECOMMENDED
  384. [11:57:00] <koen> mru: I'll bug him at LT
  385. [11:57:41] <woglinde_> koen hm sounds reasonable
  386. [11:58:17] <koen> right now systemd_armv7a.ipk in the feeds only gives you a serial getty if you're on ttyO2 :)
  387. [12:00:23] <koen> getting systemd to work was suprisingly easy
  388. [12:01:07] <koen> and other people have already created units for existing stuff: https://github.com/falconindy/systemd-arch-units
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  392. [12:02:40] <ant_work> koen: fwiw in 2 days Gentoo wil move to OpenRC
  393. [12:03:02] <Crofton> koen, http://twitpic.com/4u2s55
  394. [12:03:12] <ant_work> most script are in C
  395. [12:03:16] <Crofton> That is a "spectrum occupancy study"
  396. [12:03:18] <koen> jkridner: ping
  397. [12:03:58] <koen> Crofton: pyqt?
  398. [12:04:24] <Crofton> it is involved
  399. [12:04:28] <Crofton> pyqwt also
  400. [12:04:41] <Crofton> it annoys the crap out of me they are used
  401. [12:04:45] <Crofton> and the gles stuff
  402. [12:05:13] <Crofton> objective for oe-core is to build this image entirely in OE
  403. [12:05:52] <koen> in OE-core it will be easier
  404. [12:06:11] <koen> Crofton: you can start by adding license checksums to python-cheetah and friends
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  408. [12:15:27] <Crofton> heh, must publish hacked together qt based image, then regroup
  409. [12:16:18] <Crofton> but yes, when I get some more stuff to occupy customers, I can start puttin cyclies into kernel updates and oe-core
  410. [12:20:08] <koen> Crofton: or you could spend your cycles getting the last mail on every topic
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  412. [12:23:10] <Crofton> no
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  416. [12:30:35] <Crofton|work> although I may have today, by accident
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  418. [12:41:18] <mru> http://wondermark.com/tink8/
  419. [12:41:20] <mru> so true
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  433. [13:42:42] <Crofton|work> jkridner, do you know of any available material for doing a programming on beagle short course?
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  435. [13:43:15] <av500> with opnecv?
  436. [13:44:55] <Crofton|work> no
  437. [13:46:12] <Crofton|work> people do seem fascinated with opencv
  438. [13:46:33] <thurbad> don't even know what it is :P
  439. [13:46:33] * arun_ (~arun@i172010.upc-i.chello.nl) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
  440. [13:46:40] <mru> it's big and complex and impossible to use
  441. [13:46:42] <mru> and promises the world
  442. [13:46:44] <av500> thurbad: its cpuburn with a gui
  443. [13:47:41] <thurbad> sweet
  444. [13:47:59] <av500> mru: it can detect green and toggle a gio!
  445. [13:48:00] <thurbad> is there a make cool app button in it?
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  447. [13:50:37] <koen> Crofton|work: have you looked at the Yoder course?
  448. [13:50:53] <av500> koen: Crofton took a yodel course
  449. [13:51:24] <koen> Crofton|work: http://elinux.org/Category:ECE497
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  451. [13:53:26] <av500> yay: http://elinux.org/ECE497_Lab11_Using_the_Open_Sound_System_(OSS)
  452. [13:53:37] <av500> "Killing pulseaudio"
  453. [13:53:44] <av500> this course *rocks*
  454. [13:54:23] <koen> OSS, wtf?
  455. [13:54:34] <av500> koen: you pasted the link
  456. [13:54:46] * av500 goes to check the OSS4 status
  457. [13:55:19] <Crofton|work> koen, thanks
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  459. [13:58:19] <av500> Crofton|work: http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/OMAP???/DaVinci???_System_Integration_using_Linux_Workshop
  460. [13:58:24] <av500> no idea what that is worth
  461. [13:59:13] <av500> seems more dsp related..
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  465. [14:08:28] <Crofton|work> also, any opinions on the beagletouch?
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  468. [14:14:10] <Matt_O> anyone ever tried this? http://elinux.org/Mount_BeagleBoard_Root_Filesystem_over_NFS_via_USB Looks pretty cool
  469. [14:15:09] <av500> Matt_O: but you have an XM, it has ethernet
  470. [14:15:31] <av500> "...After re-booting the Linux host..."
  471. [14:15:34] <av500> wtf?
  472. [14:16:07] <Matt_O> av500, I haven't read this article fully... I am just exploring ways to have a faster root file system than this SD card which (apparently) has some pretty slow I/O :)
  473. [14:16:21] <av500> inspired by windows? "you have moved the mouse pointer, the system needs to be restarted for this to take effect..."
  474. [14:16:53] <Matt_O> if you know of a better article, I'd be interested for sure
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  476. [14:22:35] <dbed> the link is conrrupted, use the key words in your search browser: OMAP DAVINCI System Integration using Linux Workshop
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  478. [14:23:48] <av500> yes, its a link with spaces
  479. [14:23:56] <av500> some people have wierd ideas
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  481. [14:24:21] <av500> ah no
  482. [14:24:29] <av500> its the (tm)
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  484. [14:25:06] <koen> exportfs -ra?
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  520. [15:26:41] <jkridner> tharvey: have you been back to that release notes wiki page?
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  528. [15:58:06] <tharvey> jkridner, no - updates?
  529. [15:58:17] <jkridner> the download link was added.
  530. [15:58:24] <tharvey> whats the url again?
  531. [15:58:47] <jkridner> I requested that the team also announce availability of releases on the beagleboard mailing list.
  532. [15:59:08] <jkridner> http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/AM35x-OMAP35x-PSP_04.02.00.07_Release_Notes
  533. [15:59:27] <tharvey> good idea - the ti forums that they typically announce in get pretty swamped - would be nice to see an 'announcements' forum dedicated just for ti
  534. [15:59:44] <jkridner> I'm told that they baseline off of the pm branch and that is the reason the history isn't perfectly clean (ie., avoiding merge/reverts)
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  536. [16:00:34] <tharvey> hmmm... ISP-resizer driver not supported - that seems like a regression
  537. [16:00:35] <koen> heh
  538. [16:00:53] <av500> minor issue
  539. [16:00:54] <koen> keving kept the pm branch pretty clean, rebasing it every release
  540. [16:00:55] <Crofton> koen, that patch explains why we haven't been seeing the unpackaged files messages?
  541. [16:00:57] <av500> just a flesh wound
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  543. [16:01:01] <koen> Crofton: yes
  544. [16:01:06] <Crofton> I just acke it
  545. [16:01:12] <Crofton> I ahve been wondering what happened
  546. [16:01:23] <koen> Crofton: I sent the same patch to oe-core
  547. [16:01:33] <koen> well, I ported the oe-core one to .dev :)
  548. [16:01:38] <bioster> Hi there, could I get some help with compiling a kernel module for Angstrom on the beagleboard?
  549. [16:03:15] <bioster> The module source needs the kernel source, and I've pointed it at the source I found in build/tmp/deploy/glibc/sources/GPLv2/linux, but the module I built had an invalid module format
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  551. [16:03:35] <bioster> I see a ton of patches in the linux-omap-psp directory, do those need to be applied?
  552. [16:03:37] <koen> bioster: write a recipe that has 'inherit module' in it
  553. [16:04:03] <tharvey> so they 'officially' released this PSP based off 2.6.37 last week - how long before we should expect to see a DVSDK that supports it? (containing the out-of-tree drivers needed for DSP)
  554. [16:04:39] <av500> tharvey: cmon', compiling dsplink is a walk in the park :)
  555. [16:04:47] <bioster> koen: is there some documentation that I could browse without bothering you about this?
  556. [16:04:54] <av500> oe docs
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  558. [16:05:10] <chrisw957> Now I need a tutorial on media controller... I can just use v4l2src defaults for /dev/video0 in gstreamer anymore.
  559. [16:05:25] <tharvey> av500, what about the other drivers - can't recall... think there were three of them needed: dsplink, lpm, ?
  560. [16:05:27] <chrisw957> I mean that I can't.
  561. [16:06:06] <av500> bioster: http://www.kunen.org/uC/beagle/oe_kmod.html
  562. [16:06:23] <av500> tharvey: lpm and cmem
  563. [16:06:32] <tharvey> koen, you usually drive the omap kernel recipes in OE - are you working on a linux-omap-psp-2.6.37 recipe?
  564. [16:06:36] <bioster> av500: thanks! I'll take a look at that
  565. [16:06:45] <av500> bioster: thank google
  566. [16:06:59] <tharvey> av500, none of those are in mainline yet right? how well do they port up?
  567. [16:07:04] <bioster> my search fu is often weak :(
  568. [16:07:26] <av500> tharvey: in the past, easily
  569. [16:07:34] <av500> dunno about current, im out of the dsplink game
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  572. [16:08:42] <koen> tharvey: no, it's just not worth the anguish to get that working well on beagle
  573. [16:08:57] <tharvey> that bad huh?
  574. [16:09:01] <koen> tharvey: time is better spent fixing the .37 recipe or working on a .39rc one
  575. [16:09:27] <tharvey> you mean mainline, avoiding the psp kernel recipe?
  576. [16:09:51] <koen> yes
  577. [16:10:03] <tharvey> seems like it would be easy to take the PSP patches and apply them to a recipe - I'm guessing thats all you did to start off the linux-omap-psp-2.6.32 recipe (think that was your handy work)
  578. [16:10:18] <tharvey> are you saying that there would be a lot of breakage from patches that are not included?
  579. [16:10:46] <av500> pspatches
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  583. [16:17:10] <tharvey> so if I put together a linux-omap-psp_2.6.37 recipe, I would expect it to break with most the recipes in ti subtree or just ti-local-power-manager, ti-dsplink, ti-linuxutils (cmem)?
  584. [16:19:28] <koen> I have no idea
  585. [16:19:40] <koen> well, gst-ti doesn't work with .37 anyway
  586. [16:20:07] <koen> (actually dmai doesn't, but that affects gst-ti severely)
  587. [16:20:27] <koen> if you want to work on camera stuff, use .39rc
  588. [16:20:32] <koen> everything else is a deadend
  589. [16:20:37] <tharvey> that was going to be my next question - if there was any hope that gst-ti would work with anything other than 2.6.32
  590. [16:21:10] <tharvey> .39c with gst-ti?
  591. [16:21:29] <koen> updating dmai shouldn't be that hard, there is a branch for .37 with a different codec
  592. [16:21:33] <koen> but someone needs to do it
  593. [16:24:00] <tharvey> so your using .39rc on beagle now or working towards it?
  594. [16:24:45] <tharvey> with the omapisp driver that got merged in that is
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  599. [16:31:48] <koen> I'm using .32 and .37 on my beagles
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  601. [16:39:18] <tharvey> are you using dsp codecs?
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  612. [16:58:32] <tharvey> koen, got dropped - you said you were using .32 and .37 for your beagles - are you using camera ISP and DSP codecs?
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  614. [17:01:25] <Jing> Hi, I have a question about create the kernel Image for BB-xM. I got the linux-2.6.35.12 source code, configure it using "omap3_beagle_defconfig" and compile it. I can boot it up with both Anstrom and Ubuntu. However I can't see GUI on the monitor. Then I got a beagle kernel from "https://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation/linux/trees/beagleboardXM", did the same thing and it can also boot up and see GUI. I follow the configuration of
  615. [17:03:26] <Jing> of the linux-2.6.35.12 source code but still no GUI. It stucks on "Uncompress......" So my question is: is there anybody can provide me a configuretion file so I can reconfigure the linux-2.6.35 and make it work by seeing the GUI? Sorry my question is too long but thank you sooooo much!
  616. [17:04:56] <_av500_> since you use angstrom, why not use the angstrom kernel?
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  619. [17:07:35] <Jing> my final goal is to use ubuntu so it's better to create a linux kernel for my work
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  621. [17:08:13] <_av500_> then why not use the ubuntu kernel???
  622. [17:08:36] <Jing> I just want to find a linux source which i can add and delete drivers as I wish so i can get full control of them instead of using existing kernel
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  624. [17:08:49] <Jing> yes it is also linux kernel
  625. [17:09:10] <_av500_> so use the ubuntu kernel
  626. [17:09:19] <_av500_> there is also source code for it
  627. [17:10:02] <Jing> but don't use the linux-source code?
  628. [17:10:14] <_av500_> its all limnux
  629. [17:10:17] <_av500_> linux
  630. [17:10:46] <_av500_> but each distro has its own patched kernel
  631. [17:10:53] <Jing> yes i know. i just think if i configure the source code right it can also boot up on both ubuntu and anstrom
  632. [17:11:01] <_av500_> since you want to run utbutntu, why not use their kernel?
  633. [17:11:11] <_av500_> Jing: maybe, maybe not
  634. [17:11:49] <_av500_> still, use eitherthe angstrom or ubuntu kernel and not a random one
  635. [17:12:16] <Jing> because i get the beagle-kernel from "https://gitorious.org/beagleboard-validation/linux/trees/beagleboardXM" and it can both boot up Anstrom and ubuntu, I guess I just miss configuring sth on my current linux source
  636. [17:12:33] <Jing> if i can configure it correctly I can also make it work
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  638. [17:13:52] <ds2> just pick and choose what patches you want
  639. [17:15:42] <Jing> so I can get the Ubuntu patch if I wanna work on Ubuntu right?
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  641. [17:22:25] <bob__> Hello, i have been searching for some time and can't seem to find out when the next iteration of the beagleboard will be released, if there will be one released at all, do any of you have some information on this?
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  645. [17:35:20] <dm8tbr> bob__: http://animalboard.org/ - chose one
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  647. [17:46:38] <bioster> I'm starting to get frustrated with compiling this kernel module, but it needs to get done. Would someone be willing to write a recipe, compile it, and give me the results? I can pay a modest amount.
  648. [17:49:40] <Ceriand|work> bioster: see page 23 http://lwn.net/images/pdf/LDD3/ch02.pdf
  649. [17:50:32] <ds2> just build it w/o the damn recipes
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  651. [17:50:56] * Ceriand|work agrees with ds2
  652. [17:51:13] <bioster> It needs me to point it at the kernel source
  653. [17:51:31] <bioster> I can build it for my local machine just fine, but I have no clue where the kernel source is in my OE setup
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  655. [17:54:12] <ds2> RTFM
  656. [17:54:31] <ds2> the kernel source is exactly where it normally is at relative to your local.conf
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  658. [18:02:55] <koen> woglinde_: http://pastebin.com/G2ce5UrB
  659. [18:05:03] <woglinde_> hm
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  661. [18:05:35] <woglinde_> *g*
  662. [18:05:40] <woglinde_> lunch now
  663. [18:06:29] <_av500_> bioster: build the kernel with oe and do NOT inherit rm_work
  664. [18:06:45] <_av500_> then you will find the unpacked and configured kernel
  665. [18:07:12] <woglinde_> koen I will try later to compile it for uclibc
  666. [18:07:23] <woglinde_> so the evening is settled for it
  667. [18:08:28] <koen> _av500_: why disable rm_work?
  668. [18:08:51] <koen> bitbake virtual/kernel -c configure will give you an unpacked and configured kernel as well
  669. [18:08:53] <_av500_> koen: remember the "do not like bit"
  670. [18:09:03] <_av500_> :)
  671. [18:09:03] <koen> woglinde_: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/angstrom/systemd/beagle-systemd-analyze.svg
  672. [18:09:25] <_av500_> koen: I dont even use oe
  673. [18:11:21] <ds2> I wonder how much of a slow down OE incurs when one uses rm_work
  674. [18:11:46] <_av500_> bioster: so do bitbake virtual/kernel -c configure :)
  675. [18:12:17] <koen> ds2: depends on your disk and fs
  676. [18:12:44] <ds2> koen: say, stock ext3 with defaults a single PATA drive
  677. [18:13:01] <_av500_> pata?
  678. [18:13:13] <ds2> koen: I know tweaks in this area can give a 10000x improvement; just haven't seen downside numbers
  679. [18:13:14] <_av500_> mfm or rll?
  680. [18:13:22] <djlewis> hey! some of still live with pata
  681. [18:13:30] <ds2> I don't care how the magnetic domains are encoded :P
  682. [18:13:48] <_av500_> quantum flux drives ftw
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  684. [18:14:31] <bioster> Thanks _av500_ and koen, I'll try that
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  688. [18:24:04] <tharvey> has anyone worked with gst-dsp? never noticed it before and wondering how it compares with gst-ti
  689. [18:24:26] <matt_o> djlewis, I tried out sakoman yesterday. It booted up GDM but none of my USB devices seemed to be powered. (I also tried ubuntu natty and USB devices seem to worok fine). did you runa cross this problem? I wasn't able to test the GLES2 demos due to not being able to log in :o
  690. [18:25:08] <djlewis> matt_o: no, but I am running a version about three months old.
  691. [18:25:39] <matt_o> the demos all segfault for me on yesterday's narsissus, ubuntu natty, and pretty much everything else I've tried except the demo image that came with my xM which I no loner have but am trying to redownload from circuitco.com right now..
  692. [18:25:47] <matt_o> djlewis, dangit... looks like it's been broken recently then for everyone
  693. [18:26:07] <matt_o> and apparently using gles2 isn't something most people do :)
  694. [18:26:07] <djlewis> matt_o: did you find that posted?
  695. [18:26:15] <matt_o> http://circuitco.com/support/index.php?title=Main_Page
  696. [18:26:29] <matt_o> they have two of them here.. I tried 4_25 and it didn't have any demos installed at all so I am trying the other one now
  697. [18:26:46] <djlewis> no, did you find a post that something is broken on some version of something?
  698. [18:26:56] <matt_o> no... I did not find a post
  699. [18:27:13] <matt_o> I suppose I could've fried my hardware somehow
  700. [18:27:17] <matt_o> that's always a possibility
  701. [18:27:25] <matt_o> but I know it worked on that demo image for me
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  703. [18:27:32] <djlewis> not if it works in some scenerio
  704. [18:28:06] <koen> tharvey: gst-dsp is not done by ti
  705. [18:28:40] <djlewis> bbl
  706. [18:31:18] * prpplague (~danders@nat/ti/x-lszellewlhivumrf) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
  707. [18:33:37] <tharvey> koen, right, but neither is gst-ti right? Just wondering what state its in
  708. [18:34:05] <_av500_> it is
  709. [18:34:11] <_av500_> gst_ti is from ti
  710. [18:34:18] <_av500_> that state is limbo
  711. [18:34:29] <_av500_> gsp-dsp is done by felipe
  712. [18:34:36] <_av500_> and uses bridge
  713. [18:34:45] <_av500_> the ti thing uses dmai and ce and link
  714. [18:35:58] * mrc3 (~ddiaz@189.157.108.191) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
  715. [18:37:33] <tharvey> ah... ok, I thought gst-ti was originated by TI but they no longer contribute to it - it does seem to be in a bad state - I've had to move on to ddompe's branch for useful decode and I don't think that will ever get merged upstream
  716. [18:38:42] <koen> Crofton|work: first you get the last mail, now you get the last signed-off-by, you're on a roll today!
  717. [18:38:55] <_av500_> tharvey: i called it abandonware
  718. [18:41:27] <Crofton|work> rofl
  719. [18:42:36] * djlewis thinks texas is a good state :)
  720. [18:46:33] <koen> it has bbq and buritos
  721. [18:47:22] * _av500_ likes the full metal jacket quote about it
  722. [18:48:34] <djlewis> yum, bbq and burritos .. now my BK burgers are less appetizing.
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  724. [18:48:54] <_av500_> no pizza?
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  726. [18:49:19] <djlewis> _av500_: everyone knows thats a tuesday and weekend thing for me ;)
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  728. [18:52:18] <tharvey> looking over gst-dsp I see nothing that would make it kernel version dependent as long as you have the tidspbridge, which is in .39rc - so I assume people have gst-dsp working on .39rc?
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  732. [18:55:52] <LED1> i have done :- [1]cd /sys/class/gpio [2]echo 183 > export [3]cd /sys/class/gpio/gpio183 [4] echo "low" > direction. i m using GPIO 23 & 28(GND).LED is alway ON .i hav tried to off by echo "low" > direction but its not working...
  733. [18:57:47] <woglinde_> av500 felipe is searching a new emplyoeer
  734. [18:58:57] * florian (~fuchs@Maemo/community/contributor/florian) has joined #beagle
  735. [18:59:29] <woglinde_> he florian
  736. [18:59:39] <florian> re
  737. [19:03:11] <LED1> [1]cd /sys/class/gpio [2]echo 183 > export [3]cd /sys/class/gpio/gpio183 [4] echo "low" > direction. i m using GPIO 23 & 28(GND).LED is alway ON .i hav tried to off by echo "low" > direction but its not working...
  738. [19:03:50] <woglinde_> led1 some gpio may protected by the kernel
  739. [19:05:04] <bioster> ok, so I'm trying to use: tmp/work/beagleboard-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/linux-omap-psp-2.6.31-r(bigversion)/git for my source directory
  740. [19:05:10] <bioster> does that sound right?
  741. [19:05:25] <woglinde_> .31?
  742. [19:05:40] <bioster> sorry, it's .32 actually
  743. [19:05:44] <koen> bioster: write a recipe, that way you don't need to know the path
  744. [19:05:45] <LED1> woglinde_: echo "low" > direction command is running , but can't get expected output
  745. [19:06:12] <bioster> koen: I tried to write a recipe but it's not working and I haven't the foggiest why
  746. [19:06:14] <koen> LED1: 'in' and 'out' are valid directions, 'low' isn't
  747. [19:07:47] <LED1> i have tried 1.echo "in" > direction & 2. echo "out" > direction , but still can't get any change on LED
  748. [19:08:15] <koen> well, direction doesn't toggle the bit
  749. [19:08:25] <koen> it just says if is an input or output
  750. [19:08:36] <LED1> so how can i toggle?
  751. [19:08:48] <woglinde_> .o(0 or 1)
  752. [19:09:00] <koen> LED1: prolly echo 1 > value
  753. [19:10:04] <bioster> koen: in the recipe I wrote (stolen from http://www.kunen.org/uC/beagle/oe_kmod.html) it complains that it can't compile a .o file I never asked it to compile that I know of.
  754. [19:10:41] <koen> h
  755. [19:10:43] <koen> ah
  756. [19:10:49] <koen> that guide has a do_compile
  757. [19:10:55] <bioster> yes
  758. [19:10:58] <koen> the module.bbclass does that already
  759. [19:11:04] <LED1> koen: after echo "out" > direction , i hav tried echo 1 > value & also echo 0 > value , but still problem ...
  760. [19:11:09] <koen> you only need SRC_URI and S
  761. [19:12:03] <bioster> So I can just delete the do_compile()?
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  763. [19:12:28] <woglinde> oh my god
  764. [19:12:41] <woglinde> this is such a bad example
  765. [19:12:59] <matt_o> woohoo, gles2 works on the circuitco image (3_30.zip) *phew*
  766. [19:13:09] <woglinde> on what?
  767. [19:13:21] <woglinde> we have the android case now?
  768. [19:14:00] <LED1> after echo "out" > direction , i hav tried echo 1 > value & also echo 0 > value , but still problem ..
  769. [19:15:18] <koen> woglinde: http://dominion.thruhere.net/koen/angstrom/systemd/new.svg
  770. [19:15:28] <woglinde> later
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  772. [19:17:36] <LED1> anyone,...
  773. [19:17:59] <bioster> how important are these bluez-lib warnings I'm getting?
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  775. [19:18:17] <woglinde> led1 please read linux/Documentation/gpio.txt
  776. [19:18:35] <LED1> k
  777. [19:19:46] <LED1> 1 last que.->after cat /sys/class/gpio/gpio23/value , its giving me 0
  778. [19:20:20] <woglinde> and the led is on?
  779. [19:20:26] <LED1> yes
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  781. [19:20:34] <woglinde> wron gpio?
  782. [19:20:57] <djlewis> inverse logic
  783. [19:21:17] <woglinde> djlewis that would be awfull
  784. [19:21:17] <LED1> ?
  785. [19:26:09] <woglinde> koen btw. systemd needs some headers clean up in some cases
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  788. [19:29:09] <LED1> by default intensity of LED is very very low ...
  789. [19:31:55] <LED1> yes . its is working on GPIO 20 bur not on 23....
  790. [19:32:13] <LED1> *but
  791. [19:32:19] <woglinde> wrong gpio
  792. [19:34:39] <LED1> how can i know that?
  793. [19:35:34] <woglinde> look at your schematics?
  794. [19:39:53] <chrisw957> Why would the media controller implementation be different from .37psp and that in the mainline? Compare these two:
  795. [19:39:55] <chrisw957> http://arago-project.org/git/projects/?p=linux-omap3.git;a=blob;f=include/linux/media.h;h=944629bff13bfdea19ef3176ced461d9226dad7c;hb=HEAD
  796. [19:40:01] <chrisw957> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=blob;f=include/linux/media.h;h=0ef883327de217784a80fc510fb2d213115905e3;hb=HEAD
  797. [19:40:33] <chrisw957> Its preventing me from compiling laurent's media-ctl application.
  798. [19:42:02] <woglinde> chrisw why differs the android tegra tree and the chromeos tegra tree?
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  800. [19:56:11] <LED1> woglinde: i have read schematics for GPIO , accroding to it, pin23 can be use for GPIO . i tried pin 23 with pin28..
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  802. [19:57:53] <djlewis> LED1: i believe he was suggesting you start from the omap and see which gpio is on that pin.
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  804. [19:58:24] <djlewis> but there is a handy chart / header pinout in the SRM
  805. [20:08:51] <LED1> djlewis: i know all that thing like GPIO 183 on pin23. i have GPIO chart..
  806. [20:09:26] <_av500_> woglinde: yes, i know
  807. [20:09:47] <_av500_> tharvey: dont assume many people use gst-dsp
  808. [20:10:00] <_av500_> id guess mostly one the n900
  809. [20:10:16] <_av500_> and i have no idea where that crowd is kernelwise
  810. [20:10:18] <tharvey> I'm sure your right... there is very little info about it
  811. [20:10:42] <tharvey> it sure seems like a better beast than gst-ti though... going to give it a run as soon as I have a chance
  812. [20:10:55] <_av500_> tharvey: its both gst
  813. [20:11:14] <_av500_> -ETOOMANYWRAPPERS
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  816. [20:12:00] <tharvey> heh... I love gst for network streaming
  817. [20:12:36] <_av500_> yes, i can imagine your use cases :)
  818. [20:13:18] <woglinde> hrms
  819. [20:13:34] <woglinde> no luck with systemd and uclibc
  820. [20:13:40] <dbr> Is there a way to communicate over serial with the a BeagleBoardXM after just installing ubuntu on it? I don't have a USB Keyboard.
  821. [20:14:20] <ogra_> by default only with the headless image
  822. [20:14:49] <_av500_> codename chicken
  823. [20:14:57] <woglinde> to many stuff missing
  824. [20:15:08] <ogra_> no, that would be archname in our naming scheme :)
  825. [20:15:32] <matt_o> dbr, I just installed it and I think it accepts logins from the serial port by default
  826. [20:15:39] <ogra_> if TI ever builds a chicken board ...
  827. [20:16:04] <dbr> Did you install Maverick or Natty?
  828. [20:16:07] <matt_o> natty
  829. [20:16:17] <dbr> Ok, I will try that.
  830. [20:16:42] <woglinde> ubuntu image has the link for upstart to make a getty on ttyO2?
  831. [20:16:54] <ogra_> the headless one, yep
  832. [20:17:12] <ogra_> not only getty, it also runs the installer on serial
  833. [20:17:38] <woglinde> ieehks
  834. [20:17:46] <ogra_> ?
  835. [20:18:25] <woglinde> to much overhead
  836. [20:18:42] <ogra_> you need to create a user and set timezone etc
  837. [20:19:07] <ogra_> thats all the installer does and configure the network, nothing fancy
  838. [20:19:22] <_av500_> and choose a printer driver
  839. [20:19:30] <ogra_> lol, no :)
  840. [20:19:52] <_av500_> ogra_: damn, then i downloaded floppy #12 in vain
  841. [20:20:04] <ogra_> hahaha
  842. [20:20:47] <matt_o> I was pretty impressed with the whole ubuntu install myself
  843. [20:21:18] <matt_o> everything worked perfectly... except the one thing I wanted to try on it: GLES2 ... hehehe.. *clenches fists*
  844. [20:22:27] <_av500_> thats ogra_'s evil scheme to get you on paid support....
  845. [20:22:36] <_av500_> ogra_: you at LT?
  846. [20:22:56] <ogra_> would have loved to, no, i'm at UDS ... budapest
  847. [20:23:05] <matt_o> ogra_, you offer paid support? :)
  848. [20:23:21] <_av500_> matt_o: one day they want to make money....
  849. [20:23:22] <ogra_> matt_o, canonical does, though i dont know if for arm :)
  850. [20:24:31] <ogra_> matt_o, there is also #ubuntu-arm with many knowledgeable people ;)
  851. [20:24:41] <matt_o> yeah I just joined
  852. [20:25:10] <matt_o> I've been googling/reading and trying images all day
  853. [20:26:50] <matt_o> ok I just tossed out my question there
  854. [20:27:16] <matt_o> I'd pay for someone to get me a stable image I can develop GLES2 apps on... paid support sounds nice right about now
  855. [20:27:33] <woglinde> matt_o o.O
  856. [20:28:21] <ds2> getting an image with working GLES2 is pretty easy
  857. [20:28:43] <matt_o> ds2, I'm glad to hear that... I've been trying for the past two days with no success
  858. [20:28:52] <matt_o> except for the one I just pulled from circuitco
  859. [20:29:31] <ds2> matt_o: the key is understand what you need to do not throw darts and hope for an image that has all the work done for you
  860. [20:29:32] <matt_o> fresh narcissus image and fresh ubuntu/natty both just segfault when I try to do gles2 schtuff with it
  861. [20:30:30] <matt_o> ds2, ok fair enough... I _have_ been googling for anything relevant also, but not finding much
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  863. [20:31:50] <ds2> what is there to google? just do it
  864. [20:32:22] <matt_o> you said the key is to understand what I need to do... I don't understand that currently so I can't "just do it"
  865. [20:32:38] <ds2> so dive in and start understanding
  866. [20:32:48] <ds2> sitting here typing away isn't going to change that
  867. [20:33:06] * djlewis see's ds2: sitting on a mountain top today ;)
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  869. [20:33:25] <ds2> djlewis: lots of fog
  870. [20:33:33] <djlewis> hehee
  871. [20:36:15] <matt_o> ds2, that's what I'm trying to do
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  873. [20:37:47] <woglinde_> ds2 hm his problem is to develop gles ups
  874. [20:37:52] <woglinde_> not to run them
  875. [20:38:04] <woglinde_> matt_o get familar with oe for building apps
  876. [20:38:35] <matt_o> woglinde_, thanks
  877. [20:40:32] <_av500_> matt_o: the issue is: if stock angstrom does not work, it means nobody really uses it
  878. [20:40:42] <_av500_> gles in angstrom i mean
  879. [20:40:52] <_av500_> it used to work, i am sure
  880. [20:40:58] <woglinde_> av500 hm wouldnt say that
  881. [20:41:02] <woglinde_> but perhaps
  882. [20:41:21] <_av500_> well, i always just blame koen
  883. [20:41:45] <_av500_> matt_o: but a segfault means gdb could help
  884. [20:42:09] <ds2> tried removing all those *((char *)NULL) = 0; lines?
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  887. [20:43:26] <_av500_> ds2: most of the time they use a variable to hold NULL
  888. [20:43:33] <_av500_> and assign it at random times
  889. [20:43:41] <_av500_> seems to be a new paradigm
  890. [20:43:51] <ds2> pesky CS classes
  891. [20:44:35] <_av500_> ds2: if i write NULL directly into the code, will the GC collect that piece of code too?
  892. [20:45:05] <ds2> it would depend on your GC quality
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  894. [20:45:58] <_av500_> ds2: a GC that just deletes all java code would have a high quality...
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  900. [20:58:05] <thurbad> and.. I have mmc working without a tps965... whatever it is \o/
  901. [20:58:42] <thurbad> and no regulator ~.~
  902. [20:58:45] <matt_o> av500, yeah that's what I'm guessing... (that none of the mainteners use it much).. which is fine
  903. [20:59:06] <matt_o> strace was pretty helpful.. gdb not so much
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  908. [21:07:04] <_av500_> thurbad: \o/
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  910. [21:11:12] <thurbad> no card detect support due to the way it was wired though
  911. [21:11:56] <thurbad> so I had to fake the signal with gpio
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  913. [21:15:18] <bill_> having trouble running 2.6.37 from nand, anyone have similar issues? i get thousands of ECC errors. tried both writing FS with kernel and uboot
  914. [21:15:42] <djlewis> bill_: more details?
  915. [21:16:03] <bill_> runs fine from the mmc card. i have seen some posts about a kernel prefetch flag...
  916. [21:16:09] <djlewis> or did I miss them...
  917. [21:17:13] <bill_> mtd->read(0x690 bytes from 0xe846970) returned ECC error --- this could go on for hours. i got the latest openembedded, built the console image
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  919. [21:17:25] <djlewis> bill_: which beagle?
  920. [21:17:25] <_av500_> hmm
  921. [21:17:35] <bill_> c4
  922. [21:17:38] <_av500_> djlewis: one that has nand I hope
  923. [21:17:38] <djlewis> oh
  924. [21:17:55] <djlewis> that's where I was going _av500_
  925. [21:18:46] <bill_> any ideas? it is driving me nuts. i need the mmc slot and so really need to boot from flash
  926. [21:19:14] <woglinde_> bill .32 is to old for you?
  927. [21:19:15] <djlewis> what is that nand clear arg, havent used it in a long while
  928. [21:19:21] <djlewis> erase 260000 20000
  929. [21:20:04] <bill_> i could probably live with .32 for now, but i am going to have to move to 37 or 38
  930. [21:20:47] <bill_> i followed the instructions from the wiki verbatim, perhaps i missed something, but i have tried it a few times now...
  931. [21:20:56] <woglinde_> hm yeah try to clean the nand before flashing
  932. [21:21:03] <woglinde_> bill_ or use sd-card booting
  933. [21:23:08] <bill_> what is at 260000? i used flash_eraseall (mtd 1.4.4) from the kernel as per the wiki. is that a bad idea?
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  935. [21:25:48] <bill_> does this help...
  936. [21:25:51] <bill_> [ 5.436187] mtd->read(0x1fea8 bytes from 0xcce0158) returned ECC error [ 5.591156] mtd->read(0x16c4 bytes from 0xe6de13c) returned ECC error [ 5.603149] mtd->read(0xa14 bytes from 0xe81edec) returned ECC error [ 5.622589] mtd->read(0x35e8 bytes from 0xe8bc218) returned ECC error [ 5.632629] mtd->read(0x31c8 bytes from 0xe8dc638) returned ECC error [ 5.642272] mtd->read(0x2a90 byt
  937. [21:26:00] <woglinde_> args
  938. [21:26:05] <woglinde_> ~pastebin
  939. [21:26:09] <koen> woglinde_: there's #systemd if you want to talk about that
  940. [21:26:13] * koen zzz now
  941. [21:26:16] <bill_> i guess not, since it only takes a couple of lines
  942. [21:26:17] <woglinde_> koen no
  943. [21:26:23] <woglinde_> its uclibc specific
  944. [21:26:30] <woglinde_> good nite koen
  945. [21:26:35] <_av500_> woglinde_: how much is missing?
  946. [21:26:45] <woglinde_> whole CPU_bla stuff
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  948. [21:27:07] <woglinde_> CPU_ALLOC_SIZE for instance
  949. [21:27:25] <djlewis> bill_: the one I gave erases environment variables
  950. [21:27:37] <bill_> not that much... here is the bit without the errors
  951. [21:27:39] <bill_> [ 5.900207] JFFS2 notice: (1) jffs2_build_xattr_subsystem: complete building xattr subsystem, 0 of xdatum (0 unchecked, 0 orphan) and 0 of xref (0 dead, 0 or phan) found. [ 5.967712] VFS: Mounted root (jffs2 filesystem) on device 31:4. [ 6.194152] devtmpfs: mounted [ 6.197326] Freeing init memory:
  952. [21:27:49] <woglinde_> hm connector and rj-11 jack than I could finish my isdn fax machine
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  954. [21:29:42] <bill_> i have seen posts about MTD_NAND_OMAP_PREFETCH_DMA which seem similar and this flag is suspiciously missing from later kernels
  955. [21:29:43] <_av500_> bill_: pastebin please
  956. [21:30:10] <bill_> sorry, not sure how to do that... but willing to learn
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  958. [21:31:54] <_av500_> pastebin.com
  959. [21:32:01] <_av500_> paste and post the url
  960. [21:34:29] <bill_> http://pastebin.com/qJYCB5Ex
  961. [21:34:49] <bill_> that one is pretty short, i could get a longer one if that would help...
  962. [21:35:23] <_av500_> its ok
  963. [21:35:32] <_av500_> but sorry, no idea
  964. [21:35:39] <_av500_> most ppl here run from sdcard
  965. [21:36:17] <bill_> does that help? seems like it has to be a kernel configuration problem...
  966. [21:37:08] <bill_> oddly, when i extract the tar.bz2 to the flash (mounted at /dev/nand as per the wiki) i can read and execute from it...
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  969. [21:39:55] <matt_o> dbr!
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  972. [21:54:26] <djlewis> bill_: you tried any other images like narcissus or demo?
  973. [21:55:57] <bill_> they all seem to run from the mmc, but havent tried them with flash
  974. [21:56:14] <djlewis> this one rund from mmc?
  975. [21:56:19] <djlewis> runs
  976. [21:56:57] <bill_> runs from mmc fine
  977. [21:57:29] <bill_> i am recompiling the kernel now with CONFIG_MTD_NAND_OMAP_PREFETCH=y removed, then i will try 2.6.38 if that doesnt work
  978. [21:57:45] <djlewis> sounds like a plan
  979. [21:58:10] <bill_> not ideal, but a plan
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  981. [21:59:28] <bill_> thanks for your help djlewis
  982. [21:59:45] <djlewis> yeah, but not so healpful this go round
  983. [21:59:59] <bill_> you gave it a go, thats all anyone can ask for
  984. [22:00:17] <djlewis> i was googling it and see all kinds o possibilities.
  985. [22:00:32] <bill_> let me know if you see one that looks promising
  986. [22:00:51] <djlewis> uboot, uImage, kernel all closely related
  987. [22:00:58] <_av500_> bill_: did you try nand with a stock angstrom image?
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  989. [22:01:31] <bill_> not yet. if it is a kernel config thing, that wont be very helpful...
  990. [22:01:52] <bill_> i have tried it in the past i.e. a year ago...
  991. [22:01:52] <_av500_> bill_: it will be helpfull to know if stock angstrom works
  992. [22:04:04] <bill_> i will try that if i get a chance
  993. [22:05:38] <bill_> for what its worth if someone is reading this i was using linux-omap-2.6.37-r101d+gitrfa3b4e23ec20cfc944db7cc2b30b0d82c20e4472
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  1008. [22:57:31] <matt_o> for anyone who cares, it appears that the segfault I was experiencing relating to GLES2 is related to the powervr kernel module not being in sync with the kernel
  1009. [22:58:10] <matt_o> I finally got it working in ubuntu natty with some help
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  1013. [23:00:03] <djlewis> matt_o: is back to getting things done :)
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  1015. [23:01:56] <djlewis> later...
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