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IRC Log for 2011-06-24
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chirp, chirp
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- [04:39:12] <marcompile>
on gst-ti, can I use TIDmaiVideoSink for video sink? I get "Unable to initialize display"
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- [04:48:08] <marcompile>
I get "ti.sdo.dmai - [Dmai] Failed to open /sys/devices/platform/omapdss/display2/enabled for writing"
- [04:48:15] <marcompile>
I don't have display2 just display0 and display1
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- [04:51:59] <thurbad>
dunno, I don't use the dsp stuff
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- [05:09:39] <marcompile>
its working now with gst-launch videotestsrc ! TIDmaiVideoSink videoStd=VGA displayDevice=/dev/fb1 displayStd=fbdev videoOutput=dvi
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- [05:10:14] <marcompile>
but if I change the VGA to 720P_60 i get "tidmaivideosink0: Failed to put display buffer"
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- [08:46:49] <koen>
Crofton: still in .be?
- [08:47:17] <_av500_>
the place one wants to .be
- [08:47:32] <Crofton>
yeah
- [08:47:40] <Crofton>
until about 1430
- [08:47:47] <XorA>
to .be or !to .be
- [08:48:03] <koen>
wanna.be
- [08:48:14] <Crofton>
rofl
- [08:48:22] <koen>
it's friday!
- [08:48:32] <XorA>
its friday, I get to fly home tomorrow :-D
- [08:48:35] <_av500_>
Crofton: wave when you are in FRA :)
- [08:48:36] <Crofton>
apparently this conference will be in Brussels again next year
- [08:48:40] <Crofton>
Will do
- [08:48:41] <koen>
NOTE: package gtk+3-3.0.11-r0: task do_compile: Started
- [08:48:51] <_av500_>
and plan a proper stovover next time
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stop
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- [08:49:27] <koen>
hmmm
- [08:49:31] <koen>
[ ] Ban hohndel@infradead.org from ever subscribing to this mailing list
- [08:49:54] <Crofton>
you only get 60Mbytes at this hotel for free
- [08:49:57] <_av500_>
x
- [08:49:59] <koen>
doing that would end the free food
- [08:50:03] <Crofton>
then you need to change your mac address
- [08:50:11] <dm8tbr>
hohndel? that's the intel guy
- [08:52:02] <koen>
yes, hence the remark about free food :)
- [08:52:39] * _av500_ handled n9 yesterday
- [08:52:46] <_av500_>
it runs angry birds, I am sold
- [08:53:09] * XorA has no idea what angry birds is
- [08:53:50] <marcompile>
does anyone know what the best way to encode a h264 stream to play on omap3530 ? what is the resolution supported?
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- [08:54:46] <marcompile>
in this page there is the datasheet just for the h264 http://software-dl.ti.com/dsps/dsps_public_sw/codecs/OMAP35xx/index_FDS.html
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- [08:56:53] <_av500_>
SD
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- [09:01:55] <mariusko>
Hi, anyone here know the trick to get a camera working on the beagleboard xM
- [09:02:25] <mariusko>
I've loaded the corresponding kernel module installed from package but no /dev/video0...
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- [09:20:00] <dm8tbr>
_av500_: huh? where did you get to do that, you're not travelling in Finland are you? ;)
- [09:21:16] <_av500_>
i dont think .fi placed export restrictions on them
- [09:23:32] <dm8tbr>
no, but the n9 density is at its peak here in Tampere and in Helsinki :)
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- [09:42:38] <Darthy>
hi.
- [09:45:25] * mru reads arm abi docs and has a great idea
- [09:46:38] <koen>
have a pint for lunch and call it a day?
- [09:47:00] <Darthy>
Which compiler performs best on using neon-instructions? i read that the ds5 arm compiler is doing some nice optimizations and tries to find out the data alignment on the fly to use neon intrinsics without coding much platform dependent stuff.
- [09:47:04] <mru>
no, but a trivial way to interface the softfp sgx libs from hardfp code
- [09:47:17] <mru>
Darthy: no compiler does neon well
- [09:47:24] <mru>
ds5 is gcc
- [09:47:40] <Darthy>
oh ok.
- [09:47:43] * koen would just send a mail to prabu and say "hey prabu, can you send me that hf build you did last month?"
- [09:48:45] <Darthy>
which gcc should i use then? there are so many versions. im currently using the 2009-q1 as told in many howtos.
- [09:48:59] <dm8tbr>
we're currently making the Nokia SGX work (once again) on non-nokia hardware...
- [09:49:02] <mru>
no compiler, gcc or otherwise, will produce good neon code
- [09:49:08] <koen>
gcc uses numbers, not dates for versions
- [09:49:09] <mru>
if you need neon, write it by hand
- [09:49:28] <mru>
now about those sgx libs
- [09:49:49] <dm8tbr>
as nokia does have hf SGX for 121 and 125
- [09:49:52] <Darthy>
ok. thanx
- [09:50:05] <_av500_>
mru: pray tell
- [09:50:12] <mru>
if you simply declare all functions with float args/return variadic, it forces softfloat calls
- [09:50:25] <mru>
so just edit the headers and add ... at the end of the relevant prototypes
- [09:51:04] <mru>
it will of course allow some invalid calls in the source, but assuming the source is otherwise ok there's no damage
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- [09:54:32] <dm8tbr>
mru: mind if I quote you in https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17570
- [09:54:54] <_av500_>
dm8tbr: test it 1st
- [09:54:59] <mru>
I'm typing up an email to beagle list now
- [09:54:59] <_av500_>
instant fame
- [09:55:24] <mru>
and yes, do test it
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- [09:57:44] <dm8tbr>
mru: I'll just quote your email in that bug and let someone else do it. I'm not good at this stuff :)
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- [10:38:24] <mru>
there, email sent
- [10:38:41] <mru>
I love tearing apart someone's arguments line by line :)
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- [10:42:31] <koen>
mru: picking on meego people is way too easy
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- [10:44:24] <koen>
"The A9 and later indeed make the softfp calls less costly, reducing any
- [10:44:25] <koen>
advantage hardfp might have (which is already small in benchmarks on A8)."
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- [10:45:19] <_av500_>
koen: but n9 is 36xx :)
- [10:45:24] <_av500_>
thus a8
- [10:45:37] <_av500_>
and its the ONLY meego arm hardware ever
- [10:45:45] <_av500_>
and its not even meego
- [10:46:09] <koen>
well
- [10:46:29] <koen>
let's just say TI is invested in GENIVI, which prefers meego
- [10:46:45] <_av500_>
koen: yes, i heard that
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lot of arm meego automotive going on
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- [10:47:56] <koen>
I'm not into that, so I don't have details
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- [11:38:17] <hitlin37>
if the chip onboard is smsc3320...then how come musb driver comes into picture...i was searching for some smsc driver
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- [11:41:04] <_av500_>
phy
- [11:41:19] <_av500_>
its only the phy
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- [11:43:03] <marco_>
hey I installed the SGX drivers and libgles and the demos are working except xgles1test1
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- [11:43:33] <marco_>
that I think is for X. Do I need any more X configuration for that to work?
- [11:44:55] <hitlin37>
hmmmm
- [11:47:06] <jimmy_mike>
hi
- [11:48:26] <jimmy_mike>
When??I??play 720P??3730, usb gadget mass storage??repeat??adb open, adb release?
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- [12:04:03] <arc_mat>
jimmy_mike: what kernel version?
- [12:04:26] <jimmy_mike>
2.6.32
- [12:04:40] <hitlin37>
i saw this same question today somewhere else too
- [12:05:04] <jimmy_mike>
I think??the problem??is the system??memory??bandwidth?
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- [12:05:54] <jimmy_mike>
where?
- [12:05:56] <arc_mat>
jimmy_mike: I had the problem with a custom board and the 2.6.29 kernel
- [12:06:09] <arc_mat>
it went away upgrading to 2.6.35
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- [12:07:21] <jimmy_mike>
Our??products are now??using??2.6.32,??if you want to??upgrade,??a lot of work!
- [12:07:37] <woglinde1>
jimmy_mike with android?
- [12:07:55] <jimmy_mike>
ye
- [12:08:08] <woglinde1>
arc_mat the sgx works flawless on .35?
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- [12:09:09] <arc_mat>
woglinde1: it never does, in any kernel ;)
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- [12:09:27] <arc_mat>
woglinde1: what flaws are you talking about?
- [12:09:42] <jimmy_mike>
I??f_mass_storage.c fsg_main_thread??by playing??720P flag??do??sleep,??to solve??this problem?
- [12:09:43] <arc_mat>
jimmy_mike: I understand
- [12:09:48] <woglinde1>
arc_mat dont know
- [12:10:03] <arc_mat>
woglinde1: then, the answer is yes, and no?
- [12:10:14] <woglinde1>
I only asked
- [12:10:38] <woglinde1>
updating to .35 and than sgx or dsp not working
- [12:10:39] <jimmy_mike>
My??English is not??good, sorry
- [12:10:41] <woglinde1>
gains nothing
- [12:12:11] <arc_mat>
woglinde1: there are some dependencies between dspbridge/syslink userspace and kernel, of course, just like for the SGX
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- [12:12:33] <arc_mat>
woglinde1: so upgrading the kernel most likely means you'll have to upgrade the SGX driver as well
- [12:12:37] <arc_mat>
userspace
- [12:12:48] <arc_mat>
jimmy_mike: I don't think you want that ;)
- [12:12:55] * koen has sgx working with .32, .35, .37, .38 and .39
- [12:13:01] <woglinde1>
koen ah
- [12:13:20] <koen>
arc_mat: with 'upgrading' you mean 'recompile against the new kernel', no?
- [12:13:20] <arc_mat>
woglinde1: see, it can be done ;)
- [12:13:27] <arc_mat>
koen: no
- [12:13:38] <koen>
well, that's what I do and it works
- [12:13:48] * koen just does 'bitbake omap3-sgx-modules'
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- [12:14:02] <arc_mat>
koen: I guess it depends on where you take your kernel from
- [12:14:04] <woglinde1>
koen I think he means newer egl and gles lib
- [12:14:41] <koen>
arc_mat: git.kernel.org for all, except .32, that is psp
- [12:14:51] <arc_mat>
koen: for android, we follow git.omapzoom.org kernels, and every other day they update the DDK revision and you need a kernel patch to go along with that upgrade
- [12:15:09] <koen>
woglinde1: the libs have nothing to do with the kernel version, they just need a matching module set
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- [12:15:20] <woglinde1>
hm okay
- [12:15:22] <koen>
arc_mat: yes for omapzoom || android all bets are off
- [12:15:30] <woglinde1>
*g*
- [12:15:40] <arc_mat>
koen: userspace apparently even checks the revision of the kernel driver and refuses to work if mismatch
- [12:16:11] <koen>
14:15 < koen> woglinde1: the libs have nothing to do with the kernel version, they just need a matching module set
- [12:16:17] <koen>
that's what I said, no?
- [12:16:41] <jimmy_mike>
I want to know??the problem with the??system bandwidth??has a relationship?
- [12:16:41] <arc_mat>
yes you did
- [12:16:46] <koen>
the external module source asp releases builds against .32, .35, .37, .38 and .39
- [12:17:18] <arc_mat>
well yes, but I'm not seeing the world through the oe glasses
- [12:17:19] <koen>
you don't get daily updates, but moving between kernels is easy
- [12:17:38] <koen>
arc_mat: no, you're seeing them thru WTBU glassed :)
- [12:17:47] <arc_mat>
koen: true, true :(
- [12:17:50] <arc_mat>
WTFBU
- [12:18:36] <woglinde1>
wtbu?
- [12:18:49] <woglinde1>
wirless ti division?
- [12:18:53] <koen>
yes
- [12:19:05] <koen>
wireless terminals to be exact
- [12:19:12] <jimmy_mike>
Play 720P, has been??called??omap resizer,??consume??a lot of??physical memory!
- [12:19:19] <woglinde1>
hihi nokia win7
- [12:19:21] <woglinde1>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M1wC0pS_No
- [12:19:35] <woglinde1>
jimmy_mike are you using the dsp?
- [12:20:19] <jimmy_mike>
yes
- [12:20:39] <jimmy_mike>
gstream
- [12:20:44] <woglinde1>
yes yes
- [12:23:12] <jimmy_mike>
I have no??other way,??if you want to??use??2.6.32,??only??mass_storage??increased??sleep,to reduce??the frequency of??communication!
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- [12:27:32] <jimmy_mike>
Do??you have any good??suggestions? Thanks
- [12:29:49] <_av500_>
jimmy_mike: vrfb in use?
- [12:29:55] <_av500_>
do you rotate the video?
- [12:30:26] <woglinde1>
jimmy_mike hm I fear you need to contact your ti sales person
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- [12:34:09] <jimmy_mike>
no
- [12:34:18] <jimmy_mike>
unuse vrfb
- [12:34:59] <jimmy_mike>
thank you woglinde1.
- [12:36:29] <_av500_>
jimmy_mike: these are the split codecs?
- [12:36:31] <_av500_>
for 720p?
- [12:37:07] <jimmy_mike>
yes
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- [12:38:47] <_av500_>
jimmy_mike: so, 720p with split codecs and 36xx is quite doable
- [12:38:56] <_av500_>
even with 35xx
- [12:42:44] <jimmy_mike>
I??understand, arogo??of??OMAP_03_06??and??rowboat??2.6.32??are based onomap_resizer??to accelerate.
- [12:44:16] <_av500_>
???
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- [12:45:35] <panto>
howdy
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- [12:45:46] <panto_>
e
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im looking for clue on USB PHY's via ULPI
- [13:04:49] <arc_mat>
it works, with the right phy ;)
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- [13:21:37] <hitlin37>
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/24/zinio-brings-tegra-hardware-acceleration-to-honeycomb-tablets/
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- [13:27:46] <woglinde1>
hitnlin hehe
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- [13:52:10] <koen>
av500: http://www.archos.com/products/gen9/feat_storage.html?country=us&lang=en
- [13:52:35] <koen>
av500: there are 80 bluray cases behind the tablet, so 1/2 hours per bluray?
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- [13:55:27] <dm8tbr>
koen: that's an strategically placed unit, in reality there is just nothing behind the unit so it's way less movies. mktg 101
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- [13:56:53] <koen>
dm8tbr: "it a photoshop, I can see it from the pixels"
- [13:57:36] <dm8tbr>
and I have seen many photoshops in my day :)
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- [13:57:45] <koen>
exactly!
- [14:02:55] <_av500_>
koen: would you believe i have not seen our website for gen9 yet
- [14:03:33] <dm8tbr>
_av500_: why would you want to even, you've had the hw on your desk for months :)
- [14:03:35] <woglinde1>
hihi
- [14:03:53] <_av500_>
i dont have time for that
- [14:05:02] <dm8tbr>
btw: nice concept with that WWAN stick
- [14:05:18] <_av500_>
its disruptive
- [14:05:24] <dm8tbr>
I hope this will fly as I like it
- [14:05:41] <dm8tbr>
you said the D word! Elop just killed another kitten!
- [14:05:56] <koen>
the 8"/hdd versions looks nice
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- [14:06:19] * koen discovered that the archos 5g doesn't charge in rescue mode
- [14:06:46] <koen>
kids, if you need rescuemode, charge it fully first
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- [14:24:15] * emeb wants to see the 8" FDD version
- [14:25:38] <woglinde1>
fdd?
- [14:27:10] <_av500_>
floppy
- [14:27:21] <_av500_>
emeb: woglinde1 is a kid....
- [14:27:27] <emeb>
heh
- [14:27:41] <emeb>
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/88/Floppy_Disk_Drive_8_inch.jpg
- [14:27:42] <dm8tbr>
fold floppy in half to insert...
- [14:27:48] <mru>
those things really did flop
- [14:28:36] <woglinde1>
av500 he I told you I disposed my 5 1/4
- [14:28:39] <woglinde1>
last week
- [14:28:43] <emeb>
insert apocryphal story about sticking floppy disks to cabinets with magnets <here>
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- [14:29:06] <Ceriand|work>
when I started working at my student job in '04 at the chem dept of my uni, they were still selling 8" floppies in the dept storeroom
- [14:29:19] <woglinde>
ceriand wohoho
- [14:29:21] * emeb spotted a few 5-1/4" floppy drives in a box in his garage a few days ago
- [14:29:50] <woglinde>
emeb I rescued the 4 floppy with dr dos 5.0
- [14:30:07] <Ceriand|work>
they were used for an ancient NMR machine that they had just upgraded a couple of years before
- [14:30:08] <emeb>
copied to SD?
- [14:30:13] <woglinde>
no
- [14:30:18] <woglinde>
still original
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- [14:38:10] <koen>
the mystery of the stm32 board has been solved
- [14:38:28] <koen>
apparently if your name is koen and you live in enschede arrow will send your order to me
- [14:38:41] * koen just met the other koen who lives in enschede
- [14:39:17] <_av500_>
haha
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- [14:40:24] <_av500_>
enschede is full of crazy people
- [14:43:36] <koen>
yes
- [14:44:15] <koen>
I did try to tell him to use stellaris in the future
- [14:44:39] <emeb>
both koens are into embedded computing...
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- [14:48:31] <_av500_>
koen: did you also trade guinea pig stories?
- [14:49:21] <koen>
heh, no
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- [15:32:30] <snafoo>
anyone have an idea what the best android OS is to run? and importantly wher eto get it
- [15:33:34] <woglinde>
3.1 is the best version I guess
- [15:33:44] <woglinde>
but I dont think you can get it
- [15:33:52] <snafoo>
is that angstrom stuff?
- [15:33:58] <woglinde>
?
- [15:34:04] <woglinde>
android is not angstrom
- [15:34:26] <snafoo>
okay
- [15:34:38] <snafoo>
so where would i got the best available android?
- [15:35:23] <koen>
google.com
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- [15:35:34] <koen>
(that works on so many levels)
- [15:35:57] <emeb>
koen is so meta today
- [15:36:05] <snafoo>
i was already working the google angle
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- [15:36:35] <snafoo>
may of found something... but who can tell
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- [15:37:16] <snafoo>
just question anyone no anything about oxdroid?
- [15:38:28] <joelagnel>
speaking of Android, /me is going patch the AIOS kernel today for -xMC, then show it off :)
- [15:39:00] <joelagnel>
I know they have their own OE tree, but I wonder if their patches are going to be merged into OE-dev at some point
- [15:39:32] <snafoo>
just so none wastes any time i found rowboat, and feel stupid for having to ask around for that...
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- [15:41:21] <joelagnel>
hi jayabharath
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- [15:41:37] <jayabharath>
joelagnel: hello!
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- [15:51:21] * djlewis reads a healthy discussion on the list this morning :)
- [15:51:34] <djlewis>
Don't understand all of it but still good reading ...
- [15:51:42] <joelagnel>
djlewis, topic?
- [15:52:35] * joelagnel likes healthy discussion
- [15:52:50] <djlewis>
looking, already closed it
- [15:53:03] <koen>
the float one?
- [15:53:12] <djlewis>
yes
- [15:55:22] <djlewis>
joelagnel: http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/b10cb261c82975a4
- [15:56:03] <joelagnel>
djlewis, thanks
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- [16:21:34] * emeb saw some talk about hardfp on engadget yesterday wrt genesis / freescale / etc.
- [16:21:54] <emeb>
haven't quite figured out how this affects Beagle / Angstrom though.
- [16:24:12] <_av500_>
not at all
- [16:24:22] <emeb>
kinda what I figured.
- [16:24:23] <_av500_>
debian upgraded from arm9 to cortex a8
- [16:24:42] <emeb>
aha & they're coming from an emulated fp environment
- [16:24:55] <emeb>
so using vfp/neon is all "woah" for them.
- [16:26:58] <_av500_>
yes
- [16:27:24] <khem>
debian was using armv4
- [16:27:33] <_av500_>
but xplain that to the engadget crowd
- [16:27:34] <khem>
so contrast is even bigger
- [16:27:41] <emeb>
and we're all, like, "yesterday's news, dude" ;)
- [16:27:58] <khem>
but if you compared armv7+softfloat and armv7+hardfloat
- [16:28:05] <khem>
then difference is not that drastic
- [16:30:01] <khem>
and most of media apps do not use floats
- [16:30:13] <Russ>
and modern softfp is pretty darn good
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- [16:30:34] <khem>
plus gcc can vectorize
- [16:30:49] <khem>
so it still it using the neon or vfp unit
- [16:30:53] <khem>
targetted
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- [16:31:21] <khem>
but when you compare armv4 even my mom would run faster
- [16:31:51] * koen built the toolchain that bootstrapped the armel port
- [16:32:05] <koen>
so debian/arm is angstrom based
- [16:32:21] <woglinde>
yo khem
- [16:32:37] <koen>
whoah!
- [16:32:39] <koen>
a khem here
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- [16:32:55] <woglinde>
why not?
- [16:32:59] <koen>
hey khem
- [16:33:42] <koen>
joelagnel: did you see my mail on gpio_free and gpio_export?
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- [16:38:14] <joelagnel>
koen, yes. I deferred my reply because I wanted to prepare it well. :) Basically, I am able to do the same thing with the sysfs class/gpio/export node
- [16:38:42] <joelagnel>
I am just not sure if I echo'ed the right GPIO
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- [16:40:55] <woglinde>
ciao djlewis
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- [16:41:26] <joelagnel>
koen, thanks though
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- [16:48:25] <koen>
joelagnel: I still think we should try to hook it up to the usb pm stuff in the long run
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- [16:50:30] <joelagnel>
koen, I am sure that will be a good thing to do. Currently I am working on my little side project for automating the testing of a kernel. So I was just looking for a way quick way to control USB power
- [16:52:28] <ds2>
machette and wirenuts...quick and simple USB power control :D
- [16:53:37] <joelagnel>
koen, tftpboot working reliably for you?
- [16:53:47] <joelagnel>
ds2, :)
- [16:53:50] <emeb>
ds2: it's the MacGyver way...
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- [17:13:14] <koen>
joelagnel: yes, but I don't actually use it that much
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- [17:33:24] <aarti>
hi all, i am using beagletouch , but after sometime i m getting cpanel suspeneded and display is going to in idle mode, is there any way to wake up the display?
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it doesn't wake up when you touch the screen?
- [17:53:56] <aarti>
thurgood, no
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- [18:34:46] <joelagnel>
Hi, I can't seem to get my 5MP camera (Leopard Imaging) to start streaming (with the .39 kernel (from OE dev) and the mt9p031 drivers
- [18:35:07] <joelagnel>
This is my cmdline:
- [18:35:10] <joelagnel>
yavta -f SGRBG8 -s 320x240 -n 4 --capture=10 --skip 3 -F `media-ctl -e "OMAP3 ISP CCDC output"`
- [18:35:23] <joelagnel>
strace:
- [18:35:27] <joelagnel>
ioctl(3, VIDIOC_STREAMON, 0xbe841584) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument)
- [18:35:27] <joelagnel>
write(1, "Unable to start streaming: 22.\n", 31Unable to start streaming: 22.
- [18:36:03] <joelagnel>
Any suggestions?
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- [18:39:47] <djlewis>
joelagnel: is it working ok for live video otherwise?
- [18:40:35] <joelagnel>
djlewis, did you mean using gstreamer? It doesn't work either because dmai is broken
- [18:40:51] <djlewis>
so mplayer wont work either?
- [18:41:14] <joelagnel>
djlewis, doesn't.
- [18:41:16] <joelagnel>
does it for you?
- [18:41:36] <djlewis>
i am using a usb webcam and they all work other than your launch line.
- [18:41:44] <djlewis>
I haven't seen that.
- [18:41:54] <joelagnel>
oh I see :)
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- [18:42:38] <djlewis>
joelagnel: sorry i wasn't helpful, just trying to eliminate the streaming part.
- [18:43:32] <joelagnel>
hey np, sorry for the delay in my response
- [18:43:40] <joelagnel>
I was following this recent thread to get it to work:
- [18:43:43] <joelagnel>
http://groups.google.com/group/beagleboard/browse_thread/thread/c39f24f098977009/727e7132a09e8e11
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- [18:45:36] <djlewis>
i wanted one of those cameras but I have not seen a lot of success stories yet :(
- [18:46:37] <joelagnel>
djlewis, koen seems to have gotten it to work from that thread
- [18:47:17] <djlewis>
well, naturally he is the one success story ;)
- [18:47:40] <joelagnel>
:D
- [18:48:15] <joelagnel>
he should take a screencast of everything he does and put it up somewhere :D
- [18:48:22] <koen>
joelagnel: did get get dmai fbdev display working already?
- [18:48:28] <djlewis>
no pictures, never happened ?
- [18:49:13] <koen>
joelagnel: did you read http://download.open-technology.de/BeagleBoard_xM-MT9P031/BBxM-MT9P031.txt ?
- [18:49:26] <Hawker>
I am sory for desturbing bu I am new to beagleboard and I wanted to compile my program directly on the poard but I am getting gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1': execvp: No such file or directory
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- [18:50:06] <djlewis>
Hawker: you didnt install task.native-sdk?
- [18:50:12] <djlewis>
task-
- [18:50:21] <Hawker>
no?
- [18:50:24] <djlewis>
do it
- [18:50:27] <joelagnel>
koen, I have got v4l2 display working with dmai
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- [18:50:39] <Hawker>
thanks I'll try
- [18:50:46] <djlewis>
that's your toolchain
- [18:50:47] <koen>
joelagnel: yes, but we never used v4l2, only fbdev
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- [18:51:56] <joelagnel>
koen, how are the 2 related? Sorry I have no idea about any of this. Apparently v4l2 is what is detected by the dmai code
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- [18:52:19] <koen>
in .32 v4l2 output was disabled in the kernel, so we used the fb overlays
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- [18:53:01] <joelagnel>
disabled in mainline?
- [18:54:22] * joelagnel needs to add few more things to his reading list :)
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- [18:55:14] * koen guesses we weren't clear on the dmai work :)
- [18:56:24] <joelagnel>
koen, I just went with getting the examples working and fixing what broke with the .39 kernel
- [18:57:33] <koen>
right, the fbdev stuff broke as well :)
- [18:57:43] <koen>
joelagnel: did you already post patches for your fixes?
- [18:57:58] <koen>
joelagnel: does dmai check the v4l name to find omap_vout automatically?
- [18:58:14] <joelagnel>
koen, not yet, I haven't yet gotten the capture stuff to work so
- [18:59:34] <joelagnel>
koen, no dmai doesn't yet do that automatically
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- [19:01:07] <joelagnel>
koen, I think the problem is I get overwhelmed by all these pieces. Like I have no idea what fbdev does, and vaguely know what v4l is. It is a bit scary. :\ Like I wish I was given a week to read up on all this stuff, like a vacation or something. and then I could do a better job
- [19:01:09] <koen>
joelagnel: the capture side of dmai is not so important for beagle
- [19:01:48] <koen>
dmai is a collection of hacks to make crappy mvista userspace work with crappy mvista kernels
- [19:02:06] <koen>
and somehow people though it would be a good idea to keep it after getting rid of mvista completely
- [19:03:27] <koen>
joelagnel: so don't feel bad that dmai overwhelms you :)
- [19:05:15] <joelagnel>
:)
- [19:05:17] <joelagnel>
koen, is there a dmai test app that exercises fbdev so that I can see what breaks?
- [19:07:27] <koen>
not sure
- [19:07:38] <koen>
I tested it with omapdmaifbsink
- [19:08:19] <koen>
_av500_: I finally read http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-media/msg34470.html
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- [19:11:21] <koen>
djlewis: this one might interest you: http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-media/msg34545.html
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- [19:14:26] <djlewis>
interesting :)
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- [19:14:42] <joelagnel>
koen, will try fbdev with the display app.
- [19:14:43] <joelagnel>
thanks
- [19:14:52] <_av500_>
koen: \\\ooo///
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- [19:15:55] <koen>
NishanthMenon: welcome!
- [19:17:04] <NishanthMenon>
koen: hi
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- [19:21:17] <joelagnel>
koen, fbdev works with the dmai display app
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- [19:22:41] <joelagnel>
will build some patches and post to OE-dev
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- [19:51:20] <mariusko>
The trick was "setenv camera lbcm5m03" in u-boot
- [19:51:55] <mariusko>
Not logical camera name according to leopard and the other camera names, but found it in a patch
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- [20:00:12] * koen downloads http://mac.github.com/
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- [20:05:15] <_av500_>
joelagnel: good
- [20:05:56] <woglinde>
av500 reads oe-dev?
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- [20:07:49] <_av500_>
no
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- [20:17:15] <woglinde>
re arc_mat
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- [20:26:07] <arc_mat_>
flaky mobile network
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- [20:46:41] <_av500_>
arc_mat_: thats what screen/irssi sessions are for
- [20:46:54] <arc_mat_>
yup, I know
- [20:52:58] <dm8tbr>
arc_mat_: want an account on LGF? ;)
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- [21:02:56] <xxiao>
does i2cset/i2cget handle multiple bytes?
- [21:03:06] <xxiao>
seems can only do one word which is 2 bytes
- [21:03:21] <xxiao>
i have a i2c device that needs to write 4 bytes at once
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- [21:07:33] <djlewis>
loop
- [21:07:42] <djlewis>
or write a simple c prog
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or script
- [21:09:26] <koen>
isn't there a word mode?
- [21:11:10] <djlewis>
mode param
- [21:11:21] <xxiao>
djlewis: mode handles word
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- [21:11:46] <xxiao>
some chips require more bytes in series, yes i'm checking if i missed something before i do the c progr
- [21:12:04] <djlewis>
16 bit I think
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djlewis: yes word in i2c means 16bit
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Hi guys. I just got a Beagleboard XM Rev C today, and I can't get the DVI-D working. Is it supposed to work out-of-the-box with the included uSD card contents?
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I can see the bootloader running and the shell starting over RS232 (and log in as root), but my monitor just sits there displaying the "NO SIGNAL" banner.
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philpem what is your requested display size, and is it supported by your monitor
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- [22:24:16] <philpem>
philpem, I'm just booting it off the memory card which comes with it... how do you set the display size?
- [22:24:41] <philpem>
native for my monitor is 1920x1080; I'm connecting the xM via a HDMI cable then a HDMI to DisplayPort adapter.
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- [22:37:36] <philpem>
... ah. turns out a DisplayPort adapter only works to connect a DisplayPort source to a HDMI sink. rats.
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- [22:40:46] <philpem>
looks like I need a HDMI to DVI cable and possibly a DVI switch box :-/
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- [22:44:00] <_av500_>
yes, hdmi cannot be converted to DP passively
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- [22:53:31] <philpem>
last time I ever trust a manufacturer datasheet!
- [22:54:20] <philpem>
copied from the PDF: "Passively converting HDMI to Display Port for use of HDMI Sources with DP Displays or Vice Versa"
- [22:54:42] * philpem groans... nobody nearby stocks DVI-to-HDMI cables for less than a king's ransom
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- [22:59:18] <wmat>
philpem: ebay?
- [22:59:37] <philpem>
kinda ruins my weekend project though :)
- [22:59:48] <wmat>
ah
- [23:00:01] <philpem>
I could order a bunch of them from CCL, but it'll be the tail end of next week before they arrive... with ebay possibly longer.
- [23:00:05] <wmat>
splice a hdmi and dvi cable together ;)
- [23:00:15] <philpem>
heh
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- [23:00:46] <philpem>
the local box-shifter just upped his HDMI cable prices. used to be ?9 for a 2-metre one, now he wants ?35.
- [23:01:03] <philpem>
or exactly what the audiophool shops are selling them for...
- [23:02:30] <wmat>
can one make their own?
- [23:02:56] <wmat>
given that the signal is digital, the quality of the cable doesn't matter
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- [23:04:45] <philpem>
wmat: the issue is getting the impedance matching right...
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- [23:05:00] <philpem>
splicing cables used for LVDS links seems a bit hairy to me.
- [23:06:50] <wmat>
philpem: google it, i bet someone has already figured it out
- [23:06:52] <ds2>
actually it does
- [23:08:03] <ds2>
try mismatching pairs of the LVDS lines ;)
- [23:10:14] <_av500_>
hdmi to dvi converter plugs are like 2.5 euro here
- [23:10:27] <_av500_>
i rodered a bunch in all combinations
- [23:10:35] <_av500_>
ordered too
- [23:11:28] <wmat>
av500: did your experimenter board arrive yet?
- [23:11:35] <_av500_>
no
- [23:11:47] <wmat>
mine arrived on Monday
- [23:11:57] <_av500_>
yes, but i am in germany
- [23:12:06] <wmat>
oh right, i knew that
- [23:12:08] <_av500_>
so the boat must cross the pond 1st
- [23:12:22] <_av500_>
avoid icebergs and such
- [23:12:26] <wmat>
heh
- [23:12:48] <wmat>
i suppose i should open the courier package soon
- [23:12:53] <ds2>
the unsinkable?
- [23:13:11] <_av500_>
ups-inkable
- [23:13:46] <_av500_>
as long as tom hanks is not on board, it should be fine...
- [23:14:02] <wmat>
or leonardo dicaprio
- [23:14:32] <_av500_>
or michael bay
- [23:14:37] <wmat>
prpplague: i should move to Texas. I'm in my garage, drinking a Busch beer, listening to classic rock radio.
- [23:15:40] <ds2>
but then you'd have to make elinux.org bigger, much bigger
- [23:15:51] <prpplague>
wmat: hehe
- [23:16:09] <wmat>
prpplague: and please apologize to Rusty for me, as the day following his shipment to me, our postal service went on strike
- [23:16:26] <wmat>
ds2: that's happenning regardless
- [23:17:02] <prpplague>
wmat: hehe
- [23:17:06] <prpplague>
wmat: understoof
- [23:17:36] <wmat>
prpplague: our gov't is currently in the midst of a 38 hour filibuster to force the postal service back to work
- [23:17:51] <ds2>
does this mean your bills are no longer due?
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- [23:19:21] <wmat>
ds2: unfortunately not
- [23:20:34] <ds2>
wmat: aren't you guys technically still subjects of her majesty? couldn't she just make a royal decree to put things back in order?
- [23:21:03] <wmat>
ds2: heh, no, we're not anymore
- [23:21:28] <ds2>
wmat: then what's with things like the QEW?
- [23:21:54] <wmat>
ds2: it was named way before we completely went independent
- [23:22:23] <ds2>
I see
- [23:23:26] <wmat>
we're still very much historically tied to the monarchy though
- [23:23:43] <wmat>
the queen is still on all of our money
- [23:24:10] <ds2>
always thought you guys were technically her subjects but she's largely a figure head
- [23:24:33] <wmat>
yep
- [23:24:57] <wmat>
we still have national holidays like Victoria Day
- [23:25:19] <ds2>
is there a QVW somewhere?
- [23:25:26] <thurbad>
she's largely a figurehead in most of great britain, isn't she?
- [23:25:53] <wmat>
no QVW that I know of
- [23:25:58] <wmat>
ds2: where are you located?
- [23:26:08] <ds2>
wmat: SJC
- [23:26:31] <wmat>
ah
- [23:26:48] <wmat>
by job, or originally?
- [23:27:21] <wmat>
i assume SJC==San Jose, CA
- [23:28:17] <ds2>
by job
- [23:28:26] <ds2>
yes, that is the right San Jose City
- [23:28:56] <wmat>
i only just learned that SJC is more populated than SFO
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- [23:30:00] <thurbad>
san francisco is actually fairly small geographically
- [23:30:18] * wmat had no idea
- [23:30:33] <ds2>
it is a pennisula...
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