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IRC Log for 2011-08-12

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  14. [01:10:35] <robtow> I'm trying to build Ubuntu for Beagleboard under Ubuntu 1.10, and rootstock hangs with 100% cpu while "setting up xrulrunner-1.9.2 (1.9.2.10+build1+nobinonly-0unbuntu1)"
  15. [01:11:14] <robtow> Any advice?
  16. [01:12:03] <prpplague> robtow: btw, i have given up on getting your stuff shipped via TI, i'm gonna try to get it the mail on monday and pay for it myself
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  18. [01:13:23] <robtow> prpplague - what was the failure mode for shipping?
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  20. [01:14:00] <ds2> item not arriving at destination? :D
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  22. [01:14:08] <prpplague> robtow: they want me to do a bunch of paperwork on country of manufacturer on some of the parts
  23. [01:15:12] <robtow> I am trying to ship a Blaze to one of our engineers in Finland, and am filling out similar docs. I just said it was manufactured by TI in USA.
  24. [01:15:32] <ds2> prpplague: just say everything is made in Tehran ;)
  25. [01:17:04] <robtow> prpplague - ever used rootstock?
  26. [01:17:41] <prpplague> robtow: look d00d, we don't do that kind druggie stuff in texas
  27. [01:17:55] <robtow> <rolls eyes>
  28. [01:17:59] <prpplague> robtow: hehe
  29. [01:18:02] <prpplague> robtow: sorry no
  30. [01:18:12] <prpplague> robtow: buildroot and OE
  31. [01:18:52] <robtow> I've done OE, for Angstrom... trying this other stuff, to get Ubuntu and DSP on Beagle.
  32. [01:18:59] <robtow> <sighs deeply>
  33. [01:19:16] <ds2> robtow: rcn is the guy you want to talk to
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  35. [01:21:31] <robtow> Oh?
  36. [01:21:46] <robtow> ping rcn
  37. [01:23:35] <robtow> OK
  38. [01:24:03] <ds2> he did the community port of Ubuntu
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  59. [04:33:04] <_av500_> ubuntu ported itself a community?
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  62. [04:58:27] <Jagan> Hello all, I got a question. There are demo images available in the angstrom distribution page. Does these work on all the beagle board xm revisions like rev B and rev C ??
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  64. [05:00:47] <vcs> I think RevC comes with stuff from the distribution page
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  101. [07:28:05] <woglinde> hi ant
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  103. [07:39:56] <ant_work> hello woglinde
  104. [07:51:35] <av500> woglinde: back from vacation?
  105. [07:52:20] <woglinde> which vacation?
  106. [07:52:43] <av500> if you was in germany, probably diving
  107. [07:53:09] <av500> with all that water
  108. [07:59:47] <woglinde> ah no vacation for me
  109. [08:00:51] <av500> all work and no play make woglinde a ...
  110. [08:02:01] <woglinde> uhm?
  111. [08:02:54] <koen> a shining example?
  112. [08:04:06] <av500> The Shining?
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  117. [08:54:48] <rsv> can we rn jpeg encoders in arm also? are there any performance measurements available for omap3
  118. [08:55:16] <av500> why should it not run?
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  120. [08:55:54] <rsv> it should run no dount
  121. [08:56:22] <rsv> i would like to know what inputs they take - yuv422/rgb565/raw
  122. [08:56:43] <av500> google will tell you
  123. [08:56:58] <rsv> av500: are you referring to libjpeg
  124. [08:57:17] <av500> libjpeg, libavcodec etc..
  125. [08:57:32] <av500> they all have not been written yesterday
  126. [08:57:38] <av500> examples and docs exist
  127. [08:58:49] <av500> this one has even "turbo" in the name: http://sourceforge.net/projects/libjpeg-turbo/
  128. [08:59:07] <rsv> yes i seen that
  129. [08:59:22] <rsv> some kind of fast encoding
  130. [08:59:38] <av500> decode too
  131. [08:59:54] <rsv> yes
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  133. [09:00:11] <av500> so, go and use it :)
  134. [09:03:51] <woglinde> turbo isnt for arm
  135. [09:05:20] <mru> eh?
  136. [09:05:24] <mru> look sgain
  137. [09:05:38] <mru> -s+a
  138. [09:05:54] <woglinde> hm
  139. [09:06:00] <woglinde> they did something
  140. [09:06:13] <woglinde> its long time since I looked at it
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  150. [10:02:57] <NotTooDumb3> Hi all..when i try to reset dss or dispc, it is never getting reset..functional and interface clocks are enabled..any other settings which i must do?
  151. [10:05:32] <snyp3r> Does anyone know if it is possible to send two command bytes for an smbus block read when using i2c-dev in userspace? Documnettaion mentions it but I can't see how it is done.
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  154. [10:12:36] <koen> mru: I'll wait to libjpeg-nitro
  155. [10:12:39] <koen> s/to/for/
  156. [10:14:03] <av500> NotTooDumb3: always think: "what would dss2 do"
  157. [10:14:12] <woglinde> I am for ultra
  158. [10:14:33] <NotTooDumb3> av500, yes. thank you.
  159. [10:17:22] <koen> joelagnel: I asked marcel holtmann about using connman + nfsroot and he said that's not something they test
  160. [10:17:53] <av500> conman tricks you into what?
  161. [10:18:26] <mru> rogue wifi of course
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  163. [10:19:45] <av500> mru: "Free Public Wifi"
  164. [10:20:08] <koen> ah, the windows virus
  165. [10:20:09] <woglinde> hm my hotel at elce has free wifi
  166. [10:20:42] <mru> or was it wifi free
  167. [10:21:04] <Russ> hotel wifi is usually worse that 2400 baud dialup
  168. [10:21:18] <woglinde> russ no
  169. [10:21:20] <woglinde> depends
  170. [10:21:21] <Russ> and it has a stupid accept captive page once a day
  171. [10:22:00] <Russ> ok, so your employer may be willing to expense more than the government rate
  172. [10:22:01] * koen has ipass connect on his phone and work laptop
  173. [10:22:09] <koen> that takes care of the login
  174. [10:22:18] <woglinde> IpassAllHurdles
  175. [10:22:21] <koen> for 90% of the hotspots I encounter
  176. [10:22:31] <mru> the worst I've seen was at the tomo in sf
  177. [10:22:47] <koen> mru: that was with the passcode over phone?
  178. [10:22:56] <Russ> mru, tomo?
  179. [10:23:21] <koen> hotel tomo in japantown
  180. [10:23:29] <Russ> ah
  181. [10:23:53] <koen> connect to wifi, go to webpage, call number on phone, receive passcode, type it in
  182. [10:24:28] <woglinde> koen was there an human at the end?
  183. [10:24:32] <woglinde> of the phone
  184. [10:24:41] <woglinde> or computer voice
  185. [10:24:42] <av500> woglinde: japantown, it was a robot
  186. [10:24:48] <mru> 90% packet loss
  187. [10:24:49] <av500> or a replicant
  188. [10:25:13] <koen> "Do you know if Angstrom has one application library like Ubuntu?"
  189. [10:25:20] <Russ> I usually stayed at best western plus tuscann inn
  190. [10:25:21] <Russ> or
  191. [10:25:39] <av500> koen: ang get
  192. [10:26:44] <woglinde> koen from india?
  193. [10:27:14] <koen> woglinde: south of france, their website features french, easukara and catelan options
  194. [10:27:27] <av500> koen: Nice
  195. [10:27:32] <Russ> hotel fusion
  196. [10:27:34] * koen can only order food in catelan
  197. [10:28:03] <koen> !#*&@( barcelona natives refuse to speak spanish
  198. [10:28:07] * av500 can order food by pointing at it
  199. [10:28:14] <Russ> er, hotel union square
  200. [10:28:18] <Russ> don't know how I got the two confused
  201. [10:29:01] <siji> av500, a hardware related doubt
  202. [10:30:12] <av500> question
  203. [10:30:28] <siji> whether wifi hot-spot is feature which is built in wifi module ?
  204. [10:30:37] <siji> or it's a seperate hardware (router) ?
  205. [10:30:45] <av500> in what module?
  206. [10:31:06] <av500> it depends on the module
  207. [10:31:09] <siji> oh ok
  208. [10:31:15] <av500> some allow to be "access point"
  209. [10:31:18] <av500> others dont
  210. [10:31:20] <siji> ok
  211. [10:31:23] <av500> or need special drivers
  212. [10:31:31] <siji> ok
  213. [10:31:35] <siji> got it
  214. [10:31:36] <siji> thanks
  215. [10:31:40] <woglinde> special driver?
  216. [10:31:46] <woglinde> these times are a bit over
  217. [10:31:55] <siji> woglinde, means ?
  218. [10:32:24] <woglinde> nearly all new chips have mac802.11 support and ap point mode
  219. [10:32:31] <juhka> Hi, can somebody point out if i've done something wrong here: http://e2e.ti.com/support/embedded/f/509/p/128148/458702.aspx#458702
  220. [10:32:40] <siji> woglinde, ok
  221. [10:33:16] <woglinde> best chips today under linux are the athk9's
  222. [10:33:53] <siji> ok clear now
  223. [10:34:22] <siji> i was confused about this, by thinking that wifi hot spot is a seperate hardware
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  225. [10:35:07] <av500> juhka: this is the wrong place to ask I would say
  226. [10:35:21] <av500> we know very little about "http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/TI-Android-GingerBread-2.3-DevKit-1.0_DeveloperGuide"
  227. [10:35:43] <woglinde> juhka rather looks like you setting console wrong
  228. [10:35:49] <juhka> I thought i make it a shot if there's anyone that has ported android from source into the BB
  229. [10:36:04] <juhka> :)
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  231. [10:36:13] <juhka> woglinde, where? which commandline?
  232. [10:36:15] <av500> s/ported/compiled/
  233. [10:36:26] <av500> juhka: the kernel command line
  234. [10:36:32] <av500> pastebin full boot log
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  236. [10:37:07] <juhka> I dont get anything else but Starting Kernel......... Booting Kernel Done in the boot
  237. [10:39:32] <koen> ported android to beagle?
  238. [10:39:46] <koen> hasn't that been done a gazillion times already?
  239. [10:40:46] <woglinde> oh html5 is now offcial
  240. [10:40:50] <juhka> koen, yes of course, but most of the instructions points to up-to-date hardware like EVM / AM37X
  241. [10:41:05] <woglinde> where is the diffrent?
  242. [10:41:05] <av500> s/ported/copied/
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  244. [10:41:25] <woglinde> you need kernel with android dalvik foo
  245. [10:41:26] <woglinde> thats it
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  247. [10:42:23] <woglinde> but psssstttt
  248. [10:42:41] <woglinde> dont spread that the advice comes from me
  249. [10:43:27] <av500> HEADLINE: "woglinde admits that android is linux"
  250. [10:43:33] <juhka> the difference it that i cannot configure the kernel configuration to another hardware?
  251. [10:43:36] <juhka> http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/TI-Android-GingerBread-2.3.4-DevKit-2.1_DeveloperGuide
  252. [10:43:53] <juhka> check here, and you'll see that the directions points to something that would not work on a beagle C4
  253. [10:44:11] * av500 will not read the TI AGBDKDG
  254. [10:44:22] <juhka> and i'm not sure if i picked the correct configurations, which i'm stating in the e2e.TI forum
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  257. [10:44:52] <woglinde> gles maybee
  258. [10:45:56] <juhka> make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-eabi- omap3_beagle_android_defconfig
  259. [10:46:12] <juhka> like im not sure if this is the correct config
  260. [10:46:17] <juhka> it aint stated anywhere
  261. [10:46:20] <woglinde> hm and no N9 in germany
  262. [10:46:48] <woglinde> juhka you should check if you have the right kernel sources
  263. [10:47:13] <juhka> it should be, they are taken from the TI homepage for Gingerbread rowboat-android
  264. [10:47:52] <juhka> http://software-dl.ti.com/dsps/dsps_public_sw/sdo_tii/TI_Android_DevKit/TI_Android_GingerBread_2_3_4_DevKit_2_1/index_FDS.html
  265. [10:48:01] <juhka> the source files displayed further down this page
  266. [10:48:15] <woglinde> that all should work
  267. [10:48:18] <woglinde> ups than
  268. [10:49:09] <woglinde> lol more bada phones then windowsphones are selled
  269. [10:49:10] <juhka> indeed, but then i've followed the developers guide at TI for building the kernel and filesystems. It compiles and builds wihtout errors, but it wont boot
  270. [10:49:40] <av500> [12:36:32] <av500> pastebin a full boot log
  271. [10:50:48] <juhka> av500, how can i get more boot info? it only gives me the classic "starting kernel....... Booting Kernel Done" and nothing lese
  272. [10:51:07] <juhka> and i've configured serial port as TTYS2
  273. [10:51:15] <juhka> Kernel 2.6.32
  274. [10:52:05] <woglinde> ttyS or TTY
  275. [10:52:12] <woglinde> casesensitive
  276. [10:52:26] <juhka> ttyS :)
  277. [10:52:28] <juhka> sry
  278. [10:53:28] <juhka> read something about enabling CONFIG_DEBUG_LL ... Never done it before, where can it be enabled?
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  288. [11:44:57] <juhka> av500, just managed to get the boot log displaying fully
  289. [11:45:04] <juhka> I'll paste it when the error occures
  290. [11:48:03] <juhka> it tries to find media which i didn't integrate into the filesystem "request suspend state: wake-up (0->) at "long digit number" (19700101) init: cannot find '/system/bin/mediaserver' , disabling 'media'
  291. [11:48:22] <juhka> and there's alot of different "long digit number"
  292. [11:49:27] <mru> reminds me of guru meditation number
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  294. [11:49:56] <av500> long digit number is a time stamp
  295. [11:50:37] <mru> from the beginning of time
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  297. [11:51:37] <juhka> it seems like there's a huge amount of media that android think should be installed. I left it chewing for 30 minutes last time
  298. [11:52:21] <av500> initial dex run
  299. [11:52:29] <av500> makes sense on 1st boot
  300. [11:53:48] <juhka> ok i'll start it over with that command
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  302. [11:55:19] <juhka> unknown command initial
  303. [11:55:20] <juhka> wtf
  304. [11:56:38] <av500> ???
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  306. [11:59:27] <juhka> I should give the command at the OMAP3BEAGLEBOARD.org # prompt right?
  307. [11:59:35] <juhka> never done it before
  308. [12:02:07] <juhka> Oh, i think i got it, sry, tired...
  309. [12:02:15] <juhka> :)
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  311. [12:02:39] <koen> jkridner: ping
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  322. [12:17:40] <Crofton|work> jkridner, has lost his mind
  323. [12:18:34] <av500> has he?
  324. [12:19:51] <mru> can't lose what you don't have :)
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  327. [12:22:45] <mdp> heh
  328. [12:23:57] <av500> its friday after all
  329. [12:24:24] <koen> Crofton|work: what did he do now?
  330. [12:24:44] <av500> koen: ported angstrom to bionic, I told you so
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  332. [12:25:02] <koen> av500: nice, I hope he sends patches
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  334. [12:30:09] <mdp> sounds super useful
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  336. [12:30:46] <mdp> I tried to get him to rewrite the kernel in c++
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  338. [12:31:32] <koen> mdp: I bet he cheated and did in in nodejs
  339. [12:31:43] <av500> kernel is getting SIMD now
  340. [12:31:54] <av500> --fffast-vectorize-ultra
  341. [12:32:00] <koen> single idiot, multiple defects?
  342. [12:32:41] <mdp> koen, well, that's what he told me???he only knows nodejs so he'll get a subcontractor that can do the c++ work
  343. [12:32:45] * koen is reading up on jquery for the narcissus2 rewrite
  344. [12:33:26] <mdp> ???ffast-and-furious
  345. [12:33:53] <koen> gcc -noatime
  346. [12:34:12] * koen ponders calling narcissus2 Amorphophallus
  347. [12:34:27] <koen> sadly I'm not a 12 year old anymore
  348. [12:34:34] <mdp> nice, then I can refer to it as "That A thing"
  349. [12:35:21] <koen> "Due to its odor, which is reminiscent of the smell of a decomposing mammal [..]"
  350. [12:35:30] <koen> so it's not dead, it just smells that way
  351. [12:35:33] <koen> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amorphophallus_titanum
  352. [12:35:37] <koen> (it's a plant)
  353. [12:35:38] <av500> koen: like hurd?
  354. [12:36:05] <Crofton_> koen, something easier to spell
  355. [12:36:06] <mdp> nice
  356. [12:36:31] <mdp> yes, and if you call it Hurd then we have convenient derogatory rhymes for it
  357. [12:37:12] <koen> Crofton_: the common term for amorpho... is penisplant
  358. [12:38:00] <mdp> aha, then I fully back this name change
  359. [12:38:03] <Crofton_> I have a photo of one somewhere .....
  360. [12:38:13] <koen> Crofton_: for people like you I could name it "jonquil" and have it accept confederate dollars
  361. [12:38:28] <Crofton_> According to twitter, jkridner is going to jump out of an airplane
  362. [12:39:30] <av500> koen: its a good name, narcissus completes image builds as often as that thing flowers
  363. [12:40:05] <av500> koen: you can out a webcam: "watch that plant, when it blooms, the build is done"
  364. [12:40:08] <av500> out->put
  365. [12:41:06] <koen> The next time I'm going to make references to the classics I'm going to include the backstory in the page itself
  366. [12:41:50] <koen> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissus_(mythology) <- that's where it's from
  367. [12:41:55] <av500> i know
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  378. [13:16:06] <juhka> av500, this is basically what i get: http://pastebin.com/Q4jYvq7C
  379. [13:16:12] <juhka> and it goes on... and on... and on
  380. [13:17:38] <av500> juhka: something is wrong
  381. [13:18:13] <juhka> av500: yeah, i figured THAT out ;)
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  383. [13:20:11] <hitlin37> what happens,if you comment out mediaserver thing in init.rc ,are you able to get past it
  384. [13:20:45] <juhka> i'll try it
  385. [13:22:16] <hitlin37> happy friday evening !!!
  386. [13:23:07] <juhka> you too, thanks for the help hitlin37, really appreciated
  387. [13:24:48] <tomba> arf. I got a 4460 upgrade for my blaze board, but the chip is HS. I hate those.
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  389. [13:25:00] <av500> tomba: not EMU?
  390. [13:25:49] <tomba> no, HS. I don't know why they sent me that.
  391. [13:26:04] <tomba> I'll mail back and say I accept only GPs
  392. [13:26:13] <av500> send it to me pls
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  394. [13:26:49] <tomba> oh, I wouldn't want to send the HS even to my worst enemy
  395. [13:26:56] <av500> :)
  396. [13:27:09] <tomba> luckily the 4460 panda was GP
  397. [13:27:11] <av500> we have worked with them before
  398. [13:27:22] <tomba> (I don't know if they even make EMU/HS pandas)
  399. [13:27:35] <av500> tomba: selling HS panda to the "community" would have been fun
  400. [13:27:44] <av500> wait 4w for the board, and 14 for the NDA :)
  401. [13:28:02] <tomba> and then you can use the TI provided bootloader and kernel binaries =)
  402. [13:28:18] <av500> boot is enough
  403. [13:34:09] <juhka> Now it gives me Request_suspend_state wakeup (0->0), but it doesnt point at anything (like it did with media)
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  405. [13:36:40] <av500> juhka: something is still wrong
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  407. [13:44:26] <mdp> cbrake, unless you are loading a warm reset script into the pmic, I can't explain how the nand is getting power cycled on that warm reset to allow the RBL to do its business.
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  410. [13:49:54] <juhka> av500, the question of interest is, what is wrong
  411. [13:49:58] <juhka> :)
  412. [13:51:23] <av500> as said, this is the wrong place
  413. [13:52:14] <juhka> i'll try to check it out on rowboat, but that place is fairly populated, if im lucky i'll may get an answer
  414. [13:52:48] <av500> juhka: sorry, but not many android inclined people here
  415. [13:53:24] <juhka> any other advice where to state this question?
  416. [13:53:39] <av500> not really
  417. [13:53:56] <av500> rowboat mailing list
  418. [13:54:12] <juhka> BUT
  419. [13:54:12] <juhka> i'll try
  420. [13:54:30] <juhka> that's the grief of next week, time to disable my brain of til' then ;)
  421. [13:54:41] <av500> you could also look into the code
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  423. [13:55:28] <juhka> I think i need to make a new build, use as much prebuilt as possible, it's maybe stupid trying to build everything from source
  424. [13:56:14] <juhka> cause i only need modified kernel
  425. [13:56:41] <juhka> i'll be back on monday if something new is up. Thanks for the help and happy weekend!
  426. [13:57:00] <av500> np
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  445. [14:46:33] <joelagnel> koen, thanks. nfsroot works fine for me now with the new image. I just had to do a clean rebuild to account for the new PACKAGE_ARCH variable changes in OE
  446. [14:46:44] <joelagnel> -core
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  448. [14:52:46] <chrisw957_> humm, how is my mmcblk0p3 getting automagically mounted to /media/mmcblk0p3? It's not defined in fstab anywhere.
  449. [14:55:52] <joelagnel> maybe some init script
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  451. [14:58:03] <av500> or magic
  452. [14:58:50] <chrisw957_> I blew away a mountall.sh in /etc/init.d with no luck. Maybe udev?
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  454. [15:03:52] <joelagnel> chrisw957_, /media/* is usually auto mounted by a program called udisks-daemon
  455. [15:14:39] <woglinde_> hi joelagnel
  456. [15:15:08] <joelagnel> woglinde_, hi :-)
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  459. [15:23:22] <chrisw957_> It seems to have been udev. You can add /dev/mmcblk0p3 to /etc/udev/mount.blacklist to keep it from getting mounted.
  460. [15:25:58] <prpplague> jkridner: i'll have you a white moddded board on monday
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  462. [15:27:44] <av500> molded?
  463. [15:31:46] <djlewis> modern?
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  469. [16:04:22] <NotTooDumb3> why do we need to use linux's function clock_enable()? why can't i just do register settings directly by writing a bit 1 to enable that particular register?
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  501. [17:54:38] <nab> hi
  502. [17:55:07] <nab> help required
  503. [17:55:33] <nab> in beagle board is it possible to connect ultrasonic sensors
  504. [17:55:37] <nab> ?
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  520. [18:34:04] <damjan> nab: generaly yes, but you should see what interface your sensors has
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  523. [18:50:02] <jkridner|work> took a skydive this morning (first time). wow that was fun!
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  525. [18:50:52] <prpplague> jkridner|work: hehe
  526. [18:51:25] <prpplague> jkridner|work: try doing it at night with a 65lbs pack
  527. [18:53:04] <mranostay> prpplague: ex-army?
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  529. [18:53:25] <prpplague> mranostay: yea
  530. [18:54:14] <mranostay> jkridner|work: tandem jump i assume?
  531. [18:58:34] <jkridner|work> yeah, tandem.
  532. [18:59:50] <ds2> heh, good to hear, there wasn't a big scraper and bucket =)
  533. [19:00:38] <jkridner|work> I'm sure that would have generated some interesting talk here. :)
  534. [19:02:17] <ds2> this is why you need to have one of those pressure sensor thingies hooked up to a beagle to plot the journey down
  535. [19:02:25] <ds2> prehaps on an xM so you can also take videos
  536. [19:02:41] <jkridner|work> that would have been cool. a 3d model of the action.
  537. [19:02:58] <jkridner|work> If I'd known about it before yesterday!
  538. [19:03:05] <ds2> =)
  539. [19:03:10] <jkridner|work> well, that does it. I'll just have to go again! :-D
  540. [19:03:26] <jkridner|work> (during the day, without a 65lbs pack)
  541. [19:03:37] <ds2> I would be willing to donate a sensor board + software for that ;)
  542. [19:03:46] <ds2> gyros, accels, compass, etc
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  544. [19:04:15] <ds2> combine that with a 3d scan off a kinect.. you can have yourself diving in google earth virtually ;)
  545. [19:04:54] <ds2> finally... I found my DXF files for my sd card holder
  546. [19:05:23] * jkridner|work wishes he had AutoCad again
  547. [19:05:40] <jkridner|work> I don't think I could even draw anymore.
  548. [19:05:46] * jkridner|work used to be a draftsman.
  549. [19:05:50] <ds2> get DoubleCAD. it is a free clone
  550. [19:05:53] <mIKEjONES> ds2: you mean an IMU?
  551. [19:05:59] <jkridner|work> ds2: thanks for the tip!
  552. [19:06:09] <ds2> mIKEjONES: no, my board is affordable unlike most IMU's but same idea
  553. [19:06:22] <ds2> jkridner|work: you learned on autocad?!
  554. [19:06:58] <ds2> <-- learned drafting on a table with T squares and triangles.
  555. [19:07:39] <mIKEjONES> ds2: how much?
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  559. [19:07:54] <mIKEjONES> ds2: some IMUs cost about $12
  560. [19:08:17] <mIKEjONES> single laser wafer trimmed 6 dof IMUs
  561. [19:08:23] <ds2> mIKEjONES: $12?! who makes one at that range? the ones I looked at goes for like $500+
  562. [19:08:53] <joelagnel> jkridner|work, good to hear about your adventure :) a much needed break I guess :) :)
  563. [19:09:39] <mIKEjONES> ds2: lol... wtf?
  564. [19:09:50] <mIKEjONES> ds2: gimme a sec
  565. [19:09:53] * joelagnel installs CCS 5.1 to give xds100vt a spin. darn its huge at a 6GB install
  566. [19:09:58] <mIKEjONES> ds2: http://invensense.com/mems/gyro/mpu6000.html
  567. [19:10:52] <jkridner|work> joelagnel: not sure if it was deserved, but definitely much needed. just feel great today.
  568. [19:11:05] <mIKEjONES> ds2: http://www.cdiweb.com/ProductDetail/MPU6050/422200/
  569. [19:11:09] <joelagnel> :)
  570. [19:11:11] <mIKEjONES> sorry, $15
  571. [19:11:32] <jkridner|work> joelagnel: I'm looking through a couple of presentations, then I'll get to the u-boot patch pings.
  572. [19:12:11] <joelagnel> jkridner|work, sure no problem, :) thanks
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  574. [19:13:25] <ds2> mIKEjONES: that's just the chip... add power supply, etc
  575. [19:14:14] <mIKEjONES> $2 LDO, $3 LPC175x
  576. [19:14:17] <ds2> mIKEjONES: when it gets done, I will have a board with those things along with a prototyping area
  577. [19:14:27] <mIKEjONES> ds2: got a project homepage?
  578. [19:14:29] <ds2> now add the PCB
  579. [19:14:41] <ds2> mIKEjONES: not yet... it isn't 'released' yet
  580. [19:15:07] <ds2> aim is a credit card sized board with a few nice surprises
  581. [19:15:42] <ds2> to do a barebones version with that chip, you're looking at about $30-$40
  582. [19:15:54] <ds2> still a nice price compared to the $500 units though ;)
  583. [19:16:39] <ds2> whoa... MCX files
  584. [19:16:43] <mIKEjONES> yea, 2 years ago you could only find 3 axis gyros for $500 from analog, now you got this
  585. [19:17:07] <mIKEjONES> MCX files?
  586. [19:17:17] <ds2> MasterCAM X
  587. [19:17:24] <ds2> that was an old USB stick
  588. [19:17:30] <mIKEjONES> ah
  589. [19:17:42] <mIKEjONES> I thought MasterCAM was a CNC programmer
  590. [19:17:58] <ds2> it is
  591. [19:18:30] <ds2> did something happen in asian in the last 3-4 days? spam from APNIC addresses went up 2000%
  592. [19:20:20] <mIKEjONES> are you manufacturing materials for this?
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  594. [19:34:41] <ds2> for what?
  595. [19:38:34] <_av500_> for it
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  622. [21:07:08] <niro> hi, does anyone here know of any channels for embedded dev?
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  625. [21:15:14] <arcanescu> anyone tried using the TVP5146?
  626. [21:15:47] <arcanescu> djlewis: coffee /espresso shots
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  628. [21:19:13] <niro> hi, is there a beagleboard emulator available?
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  630. [21:34:16] <_av500_> no
  631. [21:36:04] <niro> so the only way to do developme for it is to buy one?
  632. [21:36:12] <niro> *development
  633. [21:36:35] <_av500_> its cheap
  634. [21:38:00] <niro> agreed, but i dont have that money right now
  635. [21:38:01] <niro> lol
  636. [21:38:13] <_av500_> then develop on your pc
  637. [21:38:26] <niro> how do you mean
  638. [21:38:27] <niro> ?
  639. [21:38:38] <_av500_> your pc runs linux
  640. [21:38:40] <_av500_> as does the bb
  641. [21:38:53] <_av500_> you can write 90 of you app on the pc
  642. [21:38:56] <_av500_> 90%
  643. [21:39:11] <niro> ahaa, i see what you mean.
  644. [21:39:30] <niro> the thing is, im applying for a job with a company that develops embedded systems based on this
  645. [21:39:38] <niro> and I need to get up to scratch as much as possible
  646. [21:40:00] <arcanescu> whats teh best way to get around this : Failed to set input 0 on device /dev/video0 if i dont connect the camera i get this.... however it still outputs a stream.... and when i plug the camera back in I get the green screen with the video....
  647. [21:41:49] <_av500_> niro: well, dont know your timeframe
  648. [21:42:14] <_av500_> and what you expect to learn
  649. [21:43:35] <_av500_> you could read 3ys worth of this channel logs :)
  650. [21:44:00] <niro> haha, it's quite versatile then?
  651. [21:44:00] <niro> :D
  652. [21:44:40] <_av500_> buy a BB, if you dont get the job, sell it
  653. [21:44:54] <_av500_> or keep it :)
  654. [21:47:08] <niro> i should buy a bb and a webcam, and setup a remote testing service
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  657. [21:50:21] <mdp> if you can test some patches for me, I will pay you in really poor pieces of advice
  658. [21:51:08] <jonpry> that sounds like a deal. where do i sign up?
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  665. [22:09:37] <jkridner|work> koen: did you ever try visualizations with Processing on the BeagleBoard?
  666. [22:15:41] <joelagnel> jkridner|work, did you copied on the RFCs for the 13 U-boot "config" patches? Just for my information
  667. [22:15:55] <joelagnel> *get copied
  668. [22:16:05] <jkridner|work> yeah, i saw them.
  669. [22:16:19] <joelagnel> ok, sadly the lpr list bounced as I wasn't subscribed back then
  670. [22:16:25] <joelagnel> should I resend them ? there are 13
  671. [22:16:31] <ds2> anyone by chance uses the MSP430's and have long traces on /RESET (i.e for a button)?
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  673. [22:19:30] <djlewis> ds2: what is "long"?
  674. [22:20:00] * djlewis hangs solid phone line off his in lengths
  675. [22:20:24] <joelagnel> jkridner, Will resend the 13 to the lpr again then without copying anyone else this time, just don't want to flood people again
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  680. [22:30:34] <djlewis> later ...
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  702. [23:56:30] <thurbad> can someone here give some hints on setting up a remote gdb server on a linux host and a beagle like environment?
  703. [23:56:50] <thurbad> not sure where to start really
  704. [23:58:26] <robtow> "beagle like" ?
  705. [23:59:23] <robtow> Do you mean Angstrom?
  706. [23:59:35] <thurbad> it's an omap3530 based board running angstrom, custom board

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