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IRC Log for 2011-11-01

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  5. [00:37:49] <wmat> LetoThe2nd: can you try that edit to elinux.org that triggered the error again? I made some changes.
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  16. [01:30:20] <bobkatzz> well I dun it now - heh
  17. [01:31:37] <bobkatzz> changed the password on my new xM a couple of weeks ago and don't know where I saved (usually on other computer - but not heh)
  18. [01:31:56] <bobkatzz> any way to bypass the automatic login?
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  20. [01:43:04] <bobkatzz> single user mode?
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  22. [01:50:35] <jonpry> hrm. what to do now that the dsp works. phase vocoder?
  23. [01:54:12] <GPSFan> bobkatzz, the xM has no onboard flash, it's all on the uSD card. so put the card into a linux PC and edit the /etc/shadow and/or /etc/passwd file to remove/replace the "bad"password".
  24. [01:55:43] <bobkatzz> hey thanks GPSFan
  25. [01:56:26] <bobkatzz> yeah I only have my windows PC so i'm hosed there too but I did click the "automatic login" panel and it seems to be doing that.
  26. [01:56:59] <bobkatzz> although it's taking a while it hasn't come back with a login failure so that's optimistic
  27. [01:57:26] <bobkatzz> I think it took a while the first time as well
  28. [01:58:32] <bobkatzz> any way to read the UImage on a PC? - I think you would have to boot into it - it's a Linux kernal right?
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  30. [01:59:45] <bobkatzz> jonpry: - which DSP did you get working?
  31. [02:00:51] <jonpry> the IVA2 thing in dm3730
  32. [02:01:28] <jonpry> i can pipe an audio stream in and out of it. so many possibilities :p
  33. [02:02:45] <bobkatzz> you should check out what Software Defined Radio is doing with it - very kewl stuff
  34. [02:03:19] <GPSFan> bobkatzz, unless you have an ext2/3 driver for your windoze pc, you probably can't read/edit the mmc partition that has the rootfs on it.
  35. [02:03:40] <bobkatzz> angstrom comes with gnuradio support and Alsa sound drivers, JackD hamlib, fldigi (for decoding digital modes ) etc
  36. [02:03:50] <jonpry> osrp things?
  37. [02:04:02] <bobkatzz> GPSFan - you are right
  38. [02:04:48] <bobkatzz> I'm rebooting it now to see if it will sutologin
  39. [02:05:00] <bobkatzz> auto login that is :P
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  41. [02:07:09] <GPSFan> bobkatzz, now that http://www.vesperix.com/arm/fftw-arm/ (or http://www.fftw.org/index.html) has NEON support, someone should try re-compiling all the SDR stuff, it might use a bit less CPU..
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  43. [02:14:03] <GPSFan> oops
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  62. [04:18:25] <mcsteve> damn, guess I was wrong about kernel 3.1 solving all of my USB problems
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  72. [05:14:26] <hitlin37> hmmm....the awesomeness start at 89$!
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  75. [05:43:58] <_av500_> thats 3x the price of the strawberry pipe
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  77. [05:45:12] <w|zzy> wtf
  78. [05:46:52] <ka6sox> _av500_, hopefully not crack pipe.
  79. [05:47:09] <w|zzy> What are you talking about?>
  80. [05:47:26] <_av500_> the rhaspberry pi
  81. [05:47:52] <hitlin37> but straberry pipe won't be available easily...its for educational purposes
  82. [05:48:08] <ka6sox> Compleat with Broadcom Goodness....
  83. [05:48:08] <hitlin37> from what i read on blogs
  84. [05:49:05] <ka6sox> so be prepared to give your First Born to get any good info on that.
  85. [05:49:45] <_av500_> ok, then what about the $35 tablet of india?
  86. [05:49:47] <w|zzy> Ahhh...
  87. [05:49:56] <w|zzy> ka6sox: Ive got a family member who works at broadcom.
  88. [05:50:37] <w|zzy> whats the $89 one?
  89. [05:51:00] <_av500_> beaglebone
  90. [05:51:25] <w|zzy> Ahhh
  91. [05:52:28] <w|zzy> Hardly a bare bones beagle board as the name would suggest
  92. [05:53:15] <ka6sox> nope...
  93. [05:53:21] <hitlin37> 35$ tablet is sluggish but its good for at price point
  94. [05:53:39] <ka6sox> now I have to see how long it takes for Preempt_RT to have a 3.1 patch.
  95. [05:53:45] <ka6sox> (or do it)
  96. [05:53:47] <_av500_> beagleslug
  97. [05:54:13] <ka6sox> _av500_, sorry Slug is already taken...nslu2
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  99. [05:55:06] <ds2> beaglette
  100. [05:57:07] <_av500_> little beag horn
  101. [05:59:47] <ka6sox> okay time to download the ref manual and see how much different this is.
  102. [05:59:59] <ka6sox> and what I have to work with.
  103. [06:00:27] <hitlin37> in other unimportant news,i put the cynogen 6.1 image in to phone (spics i5700 ) and its stable to use...will move to 7.1 next
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  128. [08:20:19] <mazzanet> any reason why the ubuntu ports -omap kernels wouldn't boot?
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  132. [08:26:53] <tasslehoff> koen: thought I'd try to sort out my systemd issues. the aim is to rid myself of all "Breaking ordering cycle by deleting job"? don't you have the same issues with angstrom from oe-core on beagle?
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  136. [08:47:26] <koen> tasslehoff: no, it works :)
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  138. [08:49:16] <tasslehoff> koen: hum. that's disappointing in a good way :)
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  147. [09:40:08] <tasslehoff> koen: http://pastebin.com/vuGBDQdQ <- systemd output. any idea where to start? I suspect you've been fiddling a bit with systemd to get it up and running.
  148. [09:45:11] <koen> tasslehoff: starting doing 'ln -s /dev/null /lib/systemd/system/<foo>.service' one by one for every <foo> in /etc/init.d
  149. [09:45:23] <koen> that should point to the initscript that is broken
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  152. [09:52:21] <LetoThe2nd> koen: do you maybe have your dropbear systemd script somewhere nearby?
  153. [09:52:40] <av500> LetoThe2nd: uses the ssh one and sed
  154. [09:53:27] <LetoThe2nd> hm, the systemd installation i see here doesn't even provide a ssh one.
  155. [09:53:58] <koen> LetoThe2nd: https://github.com/openembedded/meta-oe/tree/master/meta-oe/recipes-core/dropbear/dropbear-systemd
  156. [09:54:25] <LetoThe2nd> koen: oh, thx.
  157. [09:54:45] <koen> LetoThe2nd: have a look at https://github.com/falconindy/systemd-arch-units as well
  158. [09:54:55] <koen> that's where I stole the ssh ones from to sed
  159. [09:55:13] <LetoThe2nd> koen: hehe, will do. i'm still trying to get my head around it a bit.
  160. [09:57:38] <LetoThe2nd> and one more basic question - how to define what gets started and what not?
  161. [10:00:21] <koen> systemctl enable foo.service
  162. [10:00:28] <koen> systemctl disable foo.service
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  164. [10:00:49] <koen> or ln -s the .service into /lib/systemd/systemd/multiuser.target/
  165. [10:00:57] <koen> (targets are like runlevels)
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  167. [10:03:06] <av500> koen: is there a gstreamer sink for systemd?
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  169. [10:05:58] <koen> dunno
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  174. [10:23:40] <tasslehoff> koen: tried 'ln -s /dev/null mountnfs.sh.service', but /etc/init.d/mountnfs.sh is still called.
  175. [10:26:19] <koen> hmmm
  176. [10:26:22] <koen> try deleting it
  177. [10:26:37] <koen> or remove the .sh from the symlink
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  180. [10:45:58] <Crofton|work> mru, http://haxpath.squarespace.com/imported-20100930232226/2011/10/28/broadwayjs-h264-in-javascript.html
  181. [10:50:09] <av500> Crofton|work: my coworking ham complained about the lack of hard specs on the usrp radios
  182. [10:50:17] <av500> like SFDR and other details
  183. [10:51:41] <tasslehoff> koen: removing the .sh seems to have done it
  184. [11:03:08] <tasslehoff> koen: but, I think I must try to release a rootfs before I sort this out. how can I change back to sysvinit temporarily? I've tried putting this in my image http://pastebin.com/f7yKEVuP.
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  192. [12:20:19] <bharathi> how to debug a simple hello world application on Beagle board xM using Code Composer Tool
  193. [12:20:37] <av500> printf
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  195. [12:21:48] <bharathi> hi anyone please help me here. I struct here.
  196. [12:22:58] <av500> printf
  197. [12:24:50] <bharathi> hi, thanks for responding. I already written a simple hello world application. But I am unable to do debug it on Beagle board
  198. [12:28:59] <av500> use gdb
  199. [12:29:02] <av500> it works
  200. [12:30:03] <bharathi> I am using gdb
  201. [12:30:36] <bharathi> First I am running gdbserver on target
  202. [12:30:53] <bharathi> then I started debugging on ost PC
  203. [12:31:04] <bharathi> but it failing
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  205. [12:34:45] <LetoThe2nd> koen: seems to work fine now. only one observation: the first attempt to connect fails, because the key has to be generated first
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  212. [12:43:02] <kapu> hi fellas, do we have beaglebone schematics available somewhere?
  213. [12:43:44] <av500> not yet
  214. [12:43:51] * kapu could also wait some time to dust set down
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  216. [12:44:35] <jkridner> let me see if I can get Gerald to release them, since the hardware is final at this point.
  217. [12:53:20] <ka6sox> if the hardware is final what is the likelyhood we might see Mechanicals too for laying out Capes?
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  220. [12:59:19] <kapu> jkridner: schematics really would help
  221. [12:59:54] <kapu> about deciding to order b-bone or not
  222. [13:01:08] <jkridner> k, I'll try to get one up.
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  226. [13:07:50] <wmat> jkridner: beaglebone looks cool! Ordering one now.
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  228. [13:15:25] <kapu> I am not that brave yet
  229. [13:15:30] <kapu> :-)
  230. [13:15:59] <kapu> I want to look a bit schematics first and how to hook tincantools flyswatter into it
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  232. [13:18:33] <LetoThe2nd> wmat: BTW: wiki editing worked this morning!
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  235. [13:24:37] <av500> LetoThe2nd: so we get free pizza again?
  236. [13:24:57] <LetoThe2nd> av500: don't think so, unfortunately.
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  238. [13:29:39] <electronick> hi!!! when installing angstrom to sd, i want to "cd /mnt/sdc2" but it says no directory
  239. [13:30:58] <wmat> av500: i'll mail you a slice ;)
  240. [13:31:12] <wmat> LetoThe2nd: thx, I simply disabled AntiBot for now
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  244. [13:36:01] <xxiao> just pre-ordered _the_ bone
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  250. [13:40:57] <electronick> when installing angstrom to sd, i want to "cd /mnt/sdc2" but it says no directory
  251. [13:41:11] <electronick> anyone can help
  252. [13:41:29] <av500> cd to where it is mounted
  253. [13:43:04] <electronick> it is mounted at sdc2 says ubuntu's disk utility
  254. [13:43:52] <wmat> what does mount say?
  255. [13:44:19] <tasslehoff> electronick: is the sd in the beagle or in your pc?
  256. [13:44:43] <electronick> mount says /dev/sdc2 on /media/Angstrom type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks)
  257. [13:44:48] <electronick> sdcard in my pc
  258. [13:45:06] <wmat> electronick: so cd /media/Angstrom
  259. [13:45:11] <tasslehoff> what he said
  260. [13:45:23] <LetoThe2nd> oO( http://www.uvena.de/gigolo/index.html - when it comes to mounting. )
  261. [13:46:06] <av500> electronick: try to pattern match "/mnt/sdc2" in either "/dev/sdc2" or in "/media/Angstrom"
  262. [13:46:41] <electronick> i trieed /dev(sdc2 now i will try media/anstrom
  263. [13:50:24] <xxiao> av500: is there code somewhere for that video wall demo?
  264. [13:50:41] <xxiao> curious on how they stitched together via ffmpeg
  265. [13:50:57] <mru> it's magic
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  267. [13:56:02] <kapu> jkridner: what did Gerald say about releasing schematics?
  268. [13:56:18] <jkridner> he said yes and I'm uploading them now.
  269. [13:56:37] <jkridner> http://beagleboard.org/static/beaglebone/BEAGLEBONE_SCHEM_A3.pdf
  270. [13:56:49] <jkridner> oops, I need to rotate them.
  271. [13:57:50] <kapu> :)
  272. [13:58:43] <av500> wow, 16 SYSBOOT pins
  273. [13:59:19] <av500> cant it boot from THIN_AIR too?
  274. [13:59:40] <kapu> jkridner: thank you anyways. interesting evening scheduled for today :)
  275. [14:08:49] <kapu> jkridner: also, it would be nice to be able to copy text from schematic PDF. Just for convience, it would help to copy-and-paste to google from schematic
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  277. [14:10:18] <jkridner> PROCESSOR 2 OF 3
  278. [14:10:19] <av500> kapu: works for me
  279. [14:10:23] <jkridner> I can copy and paste from it.
  280. [14:10:31] <av500> BeagleBone Expansion Headers, SD/MMC.and LDO
  281. [14:10:48] <av500> kapu: use acroread :)
  282. [14:11:02] <jkridner> the version up there is rotated now.
  283. [14:12:33] <av500> jkridner: TRM?
  284. [14:12:48] <jkridner> soon.
  285. [14:12:53] <jkridner> by Friday.
  286. [14:13:05] <jkridner> er, do you mean SRM?
  287. [14:13:23] <jkridner> TRM should be up at http://www.ti.com/am335x
  288. [14:13:23] <av500> nope
  289. [14:13:41] <jkridner> http://www.ti.com/litv/pdf/spruh73
  290. [14:14:03] <av500> ah, good old spru
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  293. [14:16:59] <av500> wow, HD44780 type LCDs are supported
  294. [14:19:01] <kapu> I also can report copy&pasting works on rotated document (I am using evince)
  295. [14:19:51] <kapu> indeed very hight quality looking schematics
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  297. [14:21:04] <kapu> at least after last week, when I was studying amr9board.net and friendlyarm's schematics :)
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  302. [14:25:57] <emeb_mac> spruh73 is hilarious - 209 pg table of contents and no top-level block diagram.
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  304. [14:27:01] <nemik> i am so excited about the BeagleBone. so could OpenCV really work on it with attached webcam using the NEON instructions for graphics?
  305. [14:27:02] <av500> ah nice, it does BOOTP/TFTP out of the box
  306. [14:27:19] <koen> av500: even over rndis
  307. [14:28:18] <emeb_mac> heh "ice crusher"
  308. [14:28:24] <av500> koen: which 335x variant is it?
  309. [14:28:26] <tasslehoff> koen: is it not trivial to change from systemd to sysvinit?
  310. [14:28:36] <koen> av500: 9 or 8, I forget
  311. [14:28:45] <koen> tasslehoff: dunno, I never wanted to go back
  312. [14:30:20] <tasslehoff> koen: fair enough :)
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  315. [14:31:45] <kapu> av500: u-boot is doing that?
  316. [14:31:53] <jkridner> nemik: until people have tried it, they will be reluctant to comment. there shouldn't be any reason it won't work.
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  319. [14:32:25] <dm8tbr> so the AM335x is a OMAP3 on steroids or what?
  320. [14:32:30] * dm8tbr goes checking the URL
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  322. [14:32:58] <dm8tbr> ah, that sitara thing
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  324. [14:34:04] <kapu> I wonder, is OpenOCD going to work with beaglebone, out-of-the box, because of FT2232 (USB-JTAG-SERIAL)
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  326. [14:34:34] <koen> it's xds100v2 compatible
  327. [14:34:48] * koen will stay quiet on the jtag subject from now on
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  329. [14:36:46] <kapu> koen, from the sources of OpenOCD I found xds100v2.cfg, So I assume answer to my question is yes :-)
  330. [14:37:09] <koen> noone has really tried to use openocd on the bone yet AIUI
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  332. [14:38:21] <kapu> yup
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  342. [14:55:04] <av500> jkridner: >700MHz means 701?
  343. [14:55:51] <jkridner> 720
  344. [14:56:03] <jkridner> we might increase if char data shows we can do better.
  345. [14:56:04] <koen> bogomips says 718 over here
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  347. [14:57:24] <jkridner> dm8tbr: it is a lower-cost OMAP3-like with some extra integration and stuff that makes it easier to add more typical electronics to it.
  348. [14:57:39] <dm8tbr> *nod*
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  350. [14:58:09] <av500> dm8tbr: AM335x is McGuyver's OMAP3
  351. [14:58:26] * mranostay waves
  352. [14:58:41] <koen> hey mranostay
  353. [14:59:02] <koen> it's omap3 like in the sense that it has an cortex a8 and ball on the bottom of the package
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  355. [14:59:47] <dm8tbr> does it have the same SGX ip core? IVA? DSP?
  356. [14:59:54] <av500> sgx yes
  357. [14:59:56] <av500> no iva
  358. [14:59:57] <av500> no dsp
  359. [14:59:59] <av500> no dss
  360. [15:00:02] <av500> only a LCD controller
  361. [15:00:08] * dm8tbr didn't get jumped by one of the TI block diagrams on that page
  362. [15:00:13] <dm8tbr> else I wouldn't be asking
  363. [15:01:07] <koen> same lcdc as in am180x
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  365. [15:01:32] * koen is trying to coax it into 720p output
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  368. [15:04:00] <emeb> can't get 720p over coax w/o modulator. :P
  369. [15:04:10] <koen> :)
  370. [15:04:30] <av500> emeb: sure can, use component
  371. [15:05:01] * emeb meant 1 coax
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  373. [15:06:24] <emeb> Someone was telling me the PRUSS used Cortex M? processors. Dox suggest something else...
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  375. [15:08:01] <koen> AIUI it's custom
  376. [15:08:05] <koen> not even msp430
  377. [15:08:50] * mru is now known as _troll_
  378. [15:08:53] <emeb> yeah - when they describe the instruction set in the TRM instead of pointing to existing info that's a tell.
  379. [15:09:34] <koen> lots of people say we should use a M3/4 or msp :)
  380. [15:10:01] <emeb> Sheep. :)
  381. [15:10:09] <av500> but heck, you have that PRUSS team....
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  383. [15:11:33] <koen> yeah, the prussians
  384. [15:12:06] <av500> in prussia, PRU trolls you
  385. [15:12:20] * emeb eyerolls
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  387. [15:15:20] <jkridner> PRU is custom, but it has been around a while. It started as a network packet processing ISA and emerged into something for building out peripheral interfaces. Low-latency is its justification.
  388. [15:16:30] <jkridner> I'm sure there are other justifications, but when I tried to attack it to say an Mx would be better--more aligned with open tools, more similar architecture to Ax, etc.--where I got shot down was latency. Even the Mx pipeline is supposedly longer than this guy.
  389. [15:17:08] <emeb> Makes sense
  390. [15:17:36] <emeb> I suppose the PRU assembler will be freely available at some point.
  391. [15:17:39] <av500> emeb: its using neutrinos internally....
  392. [15:18:13] <emeb> av500: sweet! But only works between FR/CH & IT...
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  394. [15:19:19] <emeb> Woo - look at all those boot modes!
  395. [15:19:52] <av500> 32 only
  396. [15:20:02] <av500> the rest is further config bits
  397. [15:20:16] <emeb> yep - still 32 is a bunch.
  398. [15:20:44] <av500> emeb: it can even boot from the cloud
  399. [15:21:10] <koen> jkridner: I talked to jessica about cloud9
  400. [15:21:22] <_troll_> neutrinos, does it run qnx?
  401. [15:21:23] <jkridner> cool. how did that go?
  402. [15:21:24] <koen> jkridner: she's the yocto eclipse person
  403. [15:21:35] <koen> jkridner: she liked the idea, but needed to try it
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  405. [15:22:11] <av500> yoctocaclipse?
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  412. [15:32:23] <jkridner> koen: have you had a chance to clone http://github.com/jadonk/bonescript and try it out?
  413. [15:32:36] <jkridner> still very, very, very rought.
  414. [15:32:45] <jkridner> s/rought/rough/
  415. [15:32:57] <jkridner> still, you can git a tiny idea where it is headed.
  416. [15:33:03] <koen> no, still debugging the image
  417. [15:33:10] * koen changed too many things at once
  418. [15:33:18] <koen> and I have been dd'ing the wrong image for the past 3 hours
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  420. [15:34:36] <av500> jkridner: does it have fast fibonacci?
  421. [15:35:40] <jkridner> no, but we'll add threads as soon as node >= 0.5.2 is in OE.
  422. [15:35:52] <jkridner> node-fibers seems suitable.
  423. [15:36:29] * av500 hopes for a high thread count
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  425. [15:39:25] <koen> jkridner: bonescript is cloud9 safe?
  426. [15:40:12] <koen> jkridner: are we going with P8_foo or CONA_foo?
  427. [15:40:14] <jkridner> how do you mena?
  428. [15:40:19] <jkridner> CONA?
  429. [15:40:35] <koen> the docs talk about connector A, B, etc
  430. [15:40:42] <koen> the silkscreen has P8, P9, etc
  431. [15:40:55] <jkridner> Gotta go with the slikscreen.
  432. [15:41:05] <jkridner> too bad the slikscreen bites, but I'm not sending people to docs.
  433. [15:41:09] <jkridner> the docs need to be fixed.
  434. [15:41:13] <koen> ok
  435. [15:41:27] <jkridner> what people actually have in their hands always rules.
  436. [15:42:08] <koen> jkridner: I'm unhappy with the blinkled poking the gpios directly, since we already have them as LED class
  437. [15:42:12] <jkridner> the slikscreen is tough to work with to reach the form-factor, but oh well.
  438. [15:42:44] <jkridner> I think people need to be able to control everything. I don't take LEDs out of the LED class.
  439. [15:43:05] <jkridner> the code doesn't force them to understand that they are in LED class.
  440. [15:43:12] <koen> // Perhaps we couldn't open it because it was allocated as an LED
  441. [15:43:26] <jkridner> then it tries to open it as an LED.
  442. [15:43:41] <koen> that was I was hoping for :)
  443. [15:44:05] <av500> you are putting the arduino spirit into linux
  444. [15:45:37] <jamuraa> the bone looks pretty awesome, congrats on the launch guys
  445. [15:45:50] <koen> jkridner: we have python 2.7 now in oe-core, so gateone should work
  446. [15:46:06] * koen needs to take the piggy to the vet now
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  449. [15:47:36] <jkridner> av500: we'll see if it sticks. the communities certainly have some different concepts around ease-of-use.
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  452. [15:48:01] <jkridner> ie, easy-to-learn vs. once-you-know-it-easy-to-get-a-lot-out-of-it.
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  458. [15:57:15] <xxiao> cloud9/nodejs on beagles, what's for
  459. [15:57:59] <xxiao> comparing to 'old' ways, say a httpd server with js/jquery clients
  460. [15:58:34] <xxiao> size-performance-resource-robustness?
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  462. [16:00:40] <jdeisenberg> Possible documentation problem on beaglebone demo files page http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beaglebone/
  463. [16:00:59] <jdeisenberg> The instructions say: "Download an img.gz file from above e.g. Angstrom-Cloud9-IDE-eglibc-ipk-v2011.10-core-beaglebone-r0.img.gz"
  464. [16:01:19] <jdeisenberg> ...but there are no img.gz files listed, nor any files beginning with the name Angstrom.
  465. [16:01:42] <jdeisenberg> where is a good place to report this?
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  471. [16:05:44] <jkridner> jdeisenberg: http://beagleboard.org/discuss
  472. [16:06:19] <jkridner> it seems the .img.gz files were removed.
  473. [16:06:54] <jkridner> I'm guessing it is because koen is in the process of updating it.
  474. [16:07:10] <jkridner> probably to avoid people running the wrong code on A3 boards.
  475. [16:07:35] <jkridner> you can still build the latest .img.gz file with 'bitbake cloud9-image'.
  476. [16:07:56] <jkridner> seems koen is on his way to the vet. :)
  477. [16:07:58] <ds2> Hmmmmm
  478. [16:08:08] <ds2> vet?
  479. [16:08:17] <jkridner> xxiao: simplicity.
  480. [16:08:23] <ds2> is that what EU health care has been reduced to?
  481. [16:08:37] <nemik> he's really a beagle
  482. [16:08:43] <nemik> on the internet, no one knows you're a dog
  483. [16:08:48] <jdeisenberg> jkridner: thank you. I'll check back in a day or three; it will probably be resolved by then.
  484. [16:09:13] <av500> ds2: yes, in the EU even the pets have health care
  485. [16:09:29] <wmat> jkridner: I trust my BBone A2 is in the mail ;)
  486. [16:09:36] <ds2> and only vets provide healthcare to be fair?
  487. [16:09:40] <jdeisenberg> Someone referenced beaglebone on the Freedombox mailing list, so I came over to check it.
  488. [16:09:43] <jkridner> xxiao: cloud9 allows you to edit code w/o installing an IDE on your host.
  489. [16:13:48] <jdeisenberg> Thanks much; bye for now.
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  491. [16:19:10] <ds2> is the datasheet for the SoC on the Bone posted yet?
  492. [16:19:27] <ds2> <-- on slow link right now
  493. [16:19:34] <av500> the TRM, yes
  494. [16:19:46] <av500> http://www.ti.com/litv/pdf/spruh73
  495. [16:22:17] <ds2> assuming the same terminology as others, TRM is SW data only, right?
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  497. [16:23:46] <nemik> so with only the one ethernet port, is it possible to still somehow separate (in linux) that into a WAN and multiple LAN interfaces by adding a switch?
  498. [16:23:56] <nemik> or hub?
  499. [16:24:03] <mru> you can do vlan tagging I presume
  500. [16:24:07] <ds2> anything is possible
  501. [16:24:14] <mru> and separate it in a smart switch
  502. [16:24:18] <ds2> VPN into a router as a expander
  503. [16:24:25] <ds2> dotQ into a switch
  504. [16:24:36] <ds2> or just overlay them and trust everything
  505. [16:24:53] <av500> ds2: even the government?
  506. [16:25:43] <nemik> i mean using just the device, say a beagle bone with its single eth port. so plugging in a switch or hub to 'expand' it. then assign one of those ports to act as a WAN and the others as LAN clients for DHCP
  507. [16:25:52] <nemik> so vlan tagging can accomplish that?
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  510. [16:26:27] <mru> with a smart enough switch, sure
  511. [16:27:00] <Zmurf> Stupid question, but what is the default content of base-feeds.conf?
  512. [16:27:11] <nemik> mru: thanks
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  516. [16:30:52] <ds2> any of those can do that
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  523. [16:52:18] * jkridner added Arrow to the links of BeagleBone distributors that include Digi-Key, Watterott and Mouser. Special Computing is also participating, but I'm waiting for their link to become live. Adafruit is not accepting pre-orders, but is registering interest.
  524. [16:53:01] <pugvader_> evening
  525. [16:54:29] <jkridner> Avnet has ULCD7 boards in stock.
  526. [16:55:09] <jkridner> ah, so does Digi-Key.
  527. [16:55:31] <jkridner> rcn-ee: was Levy going to get me an updated link?
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  530. [16:57:39] <wmat> jkridner: kit should include an altoids tin ;)
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  532. [16:57:52] <jkridner> :)
  533. [16:58:00] <rcn-ee> jkridner, checking. ;)
  534. [16:58:17] <jkridner> TI is actually planning on giving us some tins for the first 1500 or so boards.
  535. [16:58:53] <ds2> Hmmm
  536. [16:59:08] <ka6sox> nice
  537. [16:59:16] <ds2> jkridner: is there any power consumption numbers on the bone yet?
  538. [16:59:29] <ka6sox> many years ago I built a small transmitter on a tuna tin.
  539. [16:59:35] <wmat> jkridner: cool
  540. [17:00:37] <wmat> elinux.org pages are required as well
  541. [17:00:44] * wmat makes a note
  542. [17:00:52] <joelagnel> ds2, 32mA idle, that's all I measured so far, with ethernet active I know we've seen around 45mA
  543. [17:01:14] <ds2> whoa 32mA?!
  544. [17:01:23] <joelagnel> Sorry, 320mA and 450mA
  545. [17:01:25] <joelagnel> :D
  546. [17:01:28] <ka6sox> oh...
  547. [17:01:35] <ds2> uh... that is not any better
  548. [17:01:42] <ds2> was hopping for <3mA idle
  549. [17:01:52] <ds2> or 320uA
  550. [17:01:53] <ka6sox> I was going to stop using the MSP if it was only 45ma...
  551. [17:01:56] <jkridner> I don't think anyone as really idled it yet.
  552. [17:02:11] <ds2> is there a PM kernel for it yet?
  553. [17:02:20] <jkridner> no.
  554. [17:02:30] <ds2> oh. okay. fair enough
  555. [17:02:31] <jkridner> not expected until Feb. :'(
  556. [17:06:12] <ds2> hmmm wonder what a few days of PM hacking will bring the power down to....
  557. [17:06:59] <ka6sox> on the omap3's in the Pre's it was significant.
  558. [17:07:29] <ds2> yes but the O3 PM was not a few days of work... it was months if not years
  559. [17:09:05] <ka6sox> I'm sure someone has played with the AM ones too.
  560. [17:20:54] <av500> ds2: years
  561. [17:21:21] <av500> ds2: 3 frameworks aka 2 rewrites
  562. [17:21:27] <ds2> av500: heheh
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  564. [17:27:28] <radii> What does "openssl speed sha1" report on a beagleboard?
  565. [17:28:57] <mranostay> radii: is that a request?
  566. [17:30:12] <radii> mranostay: yeah, I don't have hardware but am trying to figure out if the performance a coworker is reporting is even remotely sane :)
  567. [17:30:48] <mranostay> radii: bbxm rev c close enough?
  568. [17:31:00] <radii> mranostay: sure! /proc/cpuinfo would be helpful too :)
  569. [17:31:16] <mranostay> http://pastebin.com/1Yh9zcmY
  570. [17:31:29] <radii> thanks!
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  572. [17:32:05] <radii> hmmm interesting, your numbers are more in the range I was expecting, so something is crazy here
  573. [17:32:28] * av500 (~av500@ip-92-50-84-149.unitymediagroup.de) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
  574. [17:33:14] <radii> mranostay: oh sorry, could I bother you for "openssl speed sha256" as well?
  575. [17:33:24] * __av500__ is now known as av500
  576. [17:34:41] <mranostay> http://pastebin.com/TZNWZG08
  577. [17:35:55] * av500 glares at the cable provider
  578. [17:36:13] <radii> mranostay: odd, sha1 gets a lot faster with bigger blocks but sha256 gets only a little bit faster. Your board is still 5x faster than my coworker's system though, so you've proven something is crazy. :) thanks again!
  579. [17:36:33] <av500> omap3 has some crypto in hardware
  580. [17:36:40] <av500> dunno if that is used though....
  581. [17:40:45] <radii> av500: afaik no, openssl is just using ARM assembly without using the hardware accelerator
  582. [17:45:42] <radii> av500: I suspect my coworker's OpenSSL was just compiled without the ARM assembly enabled, that would explain the terrible performance :)
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  586. [17:58:46] <koen> jkridner: yes, updated .imgs later today
  587. [17:58:49] * koen heads to food now
  588. [18:04:44] * djlewis_ has PIZZA ! ! ! :)
  589. [18:05:02] <mru> any beer?
  590. [18:05:15] <djlewis_> sadly, no. . .
  591. [18:06:17] <xxiao> what's gcc version requirement for angstrom oe-core? could not build read-edid
  592. [18:06:29] <mru> one that works
  593. [18:06:55] <xxiao> hmmm
  594. [18:08:35] <jkridner> xxiao: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/toolchains
  595. [18:09:05] <jkridner> though, as mru says, it isn't particular to a specific version to say what would work.
  596. [18:12:14] <xxiao> jkridner: thanks. will try that, hope it's not too new to break other stuff
  597. [18:12:30] <xxiao> s/break/make
  598. [18:13:10] <xxiao> just found out yocto does not even contain meta-oe, which means, many embedded utils are not there by default?
  599. [18:13:14] <xxiao> sharks
  600. [18:14:33] <ds2> doesn't OE build it?
  601. [18:14:45] <Crofton|work> this is the added value added by the OE community, besides direct contributions to oe-core
  602. [18:15:32] <xxiao> and the first thing i need change is from rpm to ipk, did not realize after a 12-hour build which is doing rpm
  603. [18:15:52] <koen> xxiao: use the angstrom setup scripts
  604. [18:16:28] <xxiao> koen: yeah i use it for TI stuff for sure, but there are some requests to support powerpc/mips and i was asked to check yocto
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  606. [18:16:47] <koen> xxiao: yocto is an umbrella project like freedesktop.org
  607. [18:16:59] <koen> xxiao: for the buildsystemd, use the angstrom setup scripts
  608. [18:17:12] <koen> xxiao: that will get you 'yocto', but actually working
  609. [18:17:24] <av500> koen: so yocto is an adjective?
  610. [18:17:35] * av500 is so yocto
  611. [18:17:42] <xxiao> does angstrom do parallel make / thread safe? is it recommended?
  612. [18:18:20] <xxiao> bought a i7 2600(quad core) last Friday basically for OE, which is why I am saying one reason for intel doing OE is to help selling its i7 machines
  613. [18:18:38] <Crofton|work> xxiao, agreed :)
  614. [18:18:58] <xxiao> i'm advised to use 8 threads, 12GB to cut the build time to about 100 minutes, on my core2duo/4G it took 12 hours
  615. [18:19:36] <av500> xxiao: intel saw in horror that canonical is building ubuntu arm native, so they invested in yocto to have more cross builds
  616. [18:19:58] <koen> xxiao: just use the setup scripts
  617. [18:20:40] <xxiao> koen: i use it for ti stuff, is it possible to add ppc to angstrom?
  618. [18:20:54] * av500 sets up a koenbot that says "just use the angstrom setup scripts" or "it works for me" every 15min
  619. [18:21:24] <xxiao> koen: also is it parallel make preferred? this is important too ;)
  620. [18:21:27] <ds2> but things just work
  621. [18:22:01] <koen> xxiao: just use the setupscripts
  622. [18:22:16] * koen changed whitespace a bit this time
  623. [18:22:31] <emeb> see, koen is a programmer.
  624. [18:23:03] <koen> xxiao: if it takes this much effort for you to use something unchanged I fear what happens when you actually do need to change something
  625. [18:23:10] <koen> so: just use the setup scriptss
  626. [18:23:18] <emeb> my precioussss
  627. [18:23:21] * koen introduced a typo this time
  628. [18:23:37] <av500> neutrino density in the netherlands is high today
  629. [18:23:44] <ds2> like that "rm -rf /" at the beginning of all the scripts? ;)
  630. [18:23:49] * koen gets tired of repeating himself
  631. [18:24:03] <av500> koen: pet repaired?
  632. [18:24:23] <emeb> laziness is the best inspiration for scripting/programming/etc
  633. [18:24:23] <jkridner> http://youtu.be/l6_LBi_dMEg
  634. [18:25:12] <koen> av500: no, wait a week, then go for xray/scan/etc if needed
  635. [18:25:35] <av500> wow, free usb cables
  636. [18:25:43] <jkridner> :)
  637. [18:26:17] <av500> why does the dvi cape have more parts than the actual bone?
  638. [18:26:28] <koen> jkridner: not wearing footwear?
  639. [18:26:40] <jkridner> lol. thanks to working from home, no. :)
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  641. [18:27:15] * koen put on socks for the vet today
  642. [18:27:17] <av500> koen: he stands up for stallman
  643. [18:28:02] * Russ enters the conversation at a very confusing time
  644. [18:28:33] <emeb> so last week I got a notice of UPS shipment from Circuitco. Is it a BeagleBone, or the newest FPGA board prototypes?
  645. [18:28:48] <ds2> clarification needed... did koen goto the vet for himself or for a critter?
  646. [18:28:55] <emeb> Will I have to wait until tomorrow to find out?
  647. [18:29:01] <koen> ds2: for the piggy
  648. [18:29:07] <av500> ds2: critter
  649. [18:29:10] <ds2> emeb: will it be a molten pile of plastic by tomorrow
  650. [18:29:26] <emeb> ds2: prolly not - we're in for a cold snap.
  651. [18:29:27] <ds2> av500: got it. thought things were really bad in the EU
  652. [18:29:39] <emeb> ds2: temps only in the low 80s.
  653. [18:29:39] <av500> ds2: as I said, them critters have health care
  654. [18:30:12] <ds2> av500: yes but I took that to mean they have standardized on using vets for everything
  655. [18:30:19] <av500> no
  656. [18:31:00] <mdp> koen, correction, I tried and failed with openocd on Bone Rev A1???for the amount of time I was willing to spend on it
  657. [18:31:10] <mru> av500: https://plus.google.com/105872806106213007611/posts/GBBzbbTpVvn <-- search comments for archos
  658. [18:32:10] <av500> mru: yes, and?
  659. [18:32:28] <mru> > the Archos stuff is probably not "good"
  660. [18:32:36] <jkridner> looks like we made the cover of engadget.
  661. [18:32:38] <mdp> emeb, you've been though http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Programmable_Realtime_Unit_Software_Development ?
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  663. [18:33:05] <av500> mru: "..but good enough.."
  664. [18:33:57] <emeb> mdp: no, but thanks for the linky
  665. [18:34:06] <Russ> who's in the picture
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  667. [18:34:33] <mdp> emeb, should answer your earlier concern, hopefully
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  670. [18:35:34] <emeb> mdp: indeed - looks like an interesting architecture.
  671. [18:35:55] <mdp> mm
  672. [18:35:58] <mdp> "interesting"
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  674. [18:36:11] <panto> hehe
  675. [18:36:27] <panto> 'real programmers' need apply
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  677. [18:36:52] <emeb> good catch-all. Until one has experience, everything is "interesting". Then it sorts into "ugh" and "yay"
  678. [18:37:03] <mdp> :)
  679. [18:37:22] <mdp> maybe even a "wtf?"
  680. [18:37:31] <emeb> forgot that one.
  681. [18:38:29] <emeb> So - inquiring minds want to know where to get pasm. And maybe the possibility of a pru-gcc? ;)
  682. [18:39:07] <mru> just use hexedit
  683. [18:39:07] <mdp> I think you can forget about pru-gcc from TI..just IMHO..not speaking for TI and all that
  684. [18:40:01] <mdp> emeb, there's a link to getting the tools that takes you to the usual ti.com s/w folder to grab the linux or windows blob of pasm
  685. [18:40:09] <av500> spasm?
  686. [18:40:37] <mdp> emeb, http://www.ti.com/tool/sprc940
  687. [18:40:50] <emeb> mdp: thx - didn't look closely enough.
  688. [18:41:07] <mdp> it's carefully hidden to discourage experimentation :)
  689. [18:41:18] <emeb> lol
  690. [18:41:26] <mdp> again, IMHO
  691. [18:41:34] <av500> visual diff: http://www.esky-sh.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?p=1852#p1852
  692. [18:42:09] <mdp> you might want to look at the old threads about the aborted attempt to get the PRU driver into staging if you find the PRU "interesting"
  693. [18:42:33] <av500> maybe if it can do realtime wakelocks....
  694. [18:42:44] <mdp> heh
  695. [18:43:05] <mdp> I only wanted realtime espresso
  696. [18:43:50] * av500 has 10s espresso, deems that RT enough
  697. [18:44:12] <mdp> that's got to be using systemd
  698. [18:44:31] <emeb> linus - "ONOZ - too much churn in the ARM arch!"
  699. [18:45:25] <mranostay> av500: seeing white lights yet?
  700. [18:45:36] <mranostay> that is first sign of a caffeine overdose
  701. [18:45:38] <av500> emeb: soon to be replaced with "ONOZ - too much churn in the device tree"
  702. [18:45:51] <av500> mranostay: the voices agree
  703. [18:46:13] <emeb> av500: doubtless. The price you pay for being a grownup OS.
  704. [18:46:25] <av500> emeb: I think we should petition SOC vendors to simply make fewer chips and HW manufs to make fewer phones
  705. [18:46:40] <emeb> av500: It's 'Green'!
  706. [18:47:03] <av500> everbody pls dont buy stuffz for ~5ys, kernel needs to stabilize, thxbai!
  707. [18:47:47] * av500 decides to not buy a new phone today, nor a TV
  708. [18:48:06] <mru> av500: did you buy a database yet?
  709. [18:48:36] <av500> mru: still undecided whether I need enterprise or cloud scale....
  710. [18:49:36] * emeb saves $BIGBUX not buying stuff.
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  712. [18:51:39] <av500> there, hp makes beagles into servers: http://h17007.www1.hp.com/us/en/iss/110111.aspx
  713. [18:54:34] <av500> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/01/hp_redstone_calxeda_servers/
  714. [18:55:43] * djlewis_ is purchase challenged
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  717. [18:59:26] <koen> jkridner: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/demo/beaglebone/ has been updated
  718. [18:59:32] <jkridner> thanks!
  719. [19:00:07] <koen> I cheated by uploading it while I was testing it
  720. [19:00:11] <koen> but it seems to work ok
  721. [19:00:26] <jkridner> why not say 'bitbake cloud9-image'?
  722. [19:00:59] <koen> because oebb.sh will update git repos as well :)
  723. [19:01:17] <jkridner> I mean, instead of systemd-image
  724. [19:01:23] <koen> ah
  725. [19:01:33] <koen> mainly due to fstab issues
  726. [19:01:55] <koen> jkridner: I wish someone would write a tiny C app that cats loop files together so we don't need losetup
  727. [19:01:56] <jkridner> k
  728. [19:02:26] <jkridner> hmmm.... to avoid losetup only?
  729. [19:02:34] <jkridner> cat can probably do that w/o a C file.
  730. [19:02:40] <jkridner> dd + cat.
  731. [19:02:47] <jkridner> or just dd.
  732. [19:03:14] <jkridner> if losetup is our only problem.
  733. [19:03:37] <koen> well, mkfs.vfat doesn't support taking a dir as input
  734. [19:03:37] <jkridner> I guess using losetup gives us a tiny bit of error checking, but not much.
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  736. [19:03:52] <Russ> makefatboot
  737. [19:04:12] <Russ> er
  738. [19:04:14] <ds2> you want something like what the cramfs tools does?
  739. [19:04:14] <Russ> makebootfat
  740. [19:04:19] <ds2> right?
  741. [19:04:39] <Russ> before I found makebootfat, I used mcopy -i <image> <file[s]> ::
  742. [19:04:41] <koen> ds2: what any fs tool does :)
  743. [19:04:46] <ds2> koen: for vfat, mtools
  744. [19:04:55] <jkridner> http://advancemame.sourceforge.net/boot-readme.html ?
  745. [19:05:22] <Russ> ya, just click the manpage
  746. [19:11:30] <koen> jkridner: a3@720MHz: 900ms kernel + 3000ms userspace = 3900ms boot
  747. [19:11:46] <koen> so we have ??6 seconds for uboot to be stupid
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  754. [19:19:13] <koen> http://www.flickr.com/photos/koenkooi/6303545872/in/photostream
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  756. [19:20:06] <jkridner> I need to figure out where our uenv.txt is so that I can add 'loadaddr=0x80007fc00'
  757. [19:20:16] <jkridner> that should save 1-2s.
  758. [19:20:39] <jkridner> moving more to modules (and building more modules) will also help. not sure if you've been doing that.
  759. [19:21:25] <jkridner> your photos still have "All Rights Reserved".
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  763. [19:24:11] <koen> jkridner: I'd rather patch uboot
  764. [19:24:30] <koen> I'm against using uenv.txt to work around crappy code when we can fix it
  765. [19:24:56] <jkridner> why is it crappy? just seems different to me.
  766. [19:25:12] <koen> if we fix uboot all subartic stuff benefits
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  768. [19:25:23] <jkridner> oh, btw, I meant 'loadaddr=0x80007fc0'.
  769. [19:25:52] <jkridner> I raised it to Tom and I thought the conclusion was that it was bone specific, w/o a lot of lift for other devices....
  770. [19:26:04] <koen> lift?
  771. [19:26:16] <jkridner> and that we could just as easily fix the kernel to work where it is loaded by default.
  772. [19:26:26] <jkridner> lift == help, speed, etc.
  773. [19:26:47] <jkridner> his concern was that if the kernel was too large, then it could run into other code....
  774. [19:26:53] <jkridner> our kernel just happens to be small enough.
  775. [19:26:58] <koen> right
  776. [19:27:12] * koen wouldn't call 3.2MB small, but I catch your drift
  777. [19:27:12] <jkridner> so, when customers start getting the u-boot, they might get into trouble if they don't relocate the kernel...
  778. [19:27:20] <jkridner> so, he wanted to have it be in as safe a place as possible.
  779. [19:27:30] <koen> so we fix the kernel, no?
  780. [19:27:48] <jkridner> therefore, uenv.txt setting....
  781. [19:27:51] <jkridner> either way....
  782. [19:27:54] <jkridner> or patch u-boot....
  783. [19:28:04] <jkridner> but, the idea is that the change wouldn't go upstream...
  784. [19:28:19] <jkridner> we'd carry it, because we've tested that this loadaddr works for our kernel.
  785. [19:28:23] <koen> why wouldn't it go upstream?
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  787. [19:28:30] <koen> is wolfgang against it?
  788. [19:28:44] <jkridner> I guess it could, but the concern is that customers building kernels might overwrite u-boot, etc.
  789. [19:28:55] <jkridner> nothing stopping us from submitting it upstream....
  790. [19:29:05] <jkridner> and having PSP u-boot have a "safer" location patch.
  791. [19:29:27] * koen is annoyed with us not even trying and using uenv.txt as unbreak me
  792. [19:29:32] <jkridner> I just thought having it in uenv.txt was fast and safe-for-us, in case someone changed u-boot.
  793. [19:30:23] <koen> in general users (and hence customers) do not get uenv.txt
  794. [19:30:50] <koen> and if someone changes u-boot, uenv.txt might start failing
  795. [19:31:18] <jkridner> where are you going to put it in?
  796. [19:31:25] <jkridner> OE?
  797. [19:31:30] <koen> I don't care
  798. [19:31:32] <koen> I want it fixed
  799. [19:32:20] <jkridner> what does it mean to have it fixed?
  800. [19:32:39] <jkridner> I mean, it is an optimization and there are many places where we can apply it.
  801. [19:32:43] <koen> no extra relocations with fussing with uenv.txt
  802. [19:32:53] <koen> without*
  803. [19:33:01] <koen> kernel, uboot, mlo, whatever
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  805. [19:33:30] <jkridner> fixing u-boot is easiest for me, if not in uenv.txt
  806. [19:33:43] <jkridner> I'd just change the default loadaddr to 0x80007fc0.
  807. [19:33:52] <jkridner> in the default environment.
  808. [19:34:07] <woglinde> hi jkridner
  809. [19:34:14] <woglinde> saw your bone video
  810. [19:34:28] <jkridner> as soon as I can catch up on communications and shipping stuff, and testing and ... (lost in the myriad of tasks)
  811. [19:34:53] <koen> Tartarus: that zreladdr Kconfig option, would that help?
  812. [19:34:54] <jkridner> Google Reader just changed functionality. :(
  813. [19:35:15] <koen> jkridner: I read the outbreak of anger on g+ out greader
  814. [19:35:37] <koen> about*
  815. [19:36:08] <jkridner> I know all those stupid Facebook hate messages that come out when they change the interface are a waste of time, but they actually removed **FEATURES**.
  816. [19:36:30] <koen> that's what google gets for hiring away all those gnome developers
  817. [19:36:49] <emeb> heh
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  820. [19:39:06] <Tartarus> koen: maybe, haven't tried
  821. [19:39:06] <woglinde> hi rcn-ee
  822. [19:39:09] <Tartarus> jkridner: ha
  823. [19:39:26] <Tartarus> And yeah, I'm most annoyed at the screen space they stole for the "SUBSCRIBE" button and other crap in that row
  824. [19:39:46] * Tartarus now just has to share all his stupid crap to the wife via G+, carefully
  825. [19:40:14] <jkridner> The lack of a shared RSS feed destroys BeagleBoard.org's RSS feed. :(
  826. [19:40:23] <jkridner> which, was just a GReader shared feed.
  827. [19:40:29] <jkridner> :'(
  828. [19:40:56] <rcn-ee> hi woglinde, how's it going..
  829. [19:41:06] <rcn-ee> jkridner, site finally went live.. ;)
  830. [19:41:17] <jkridner> I already updated the link.
  831. [19:41:23] <rcn-ee> awesome!
  832. [19:41:24] <jkridner> #tab-4
  833. [19:42:19] <woglinde> rcn-ee which side?
  834. [19:43:13] <jkridner> woglinde: see http://beagleboard.org/buy and look for Digi-Key.
  835. [19:44:13] <woglinde> hm hehe watterot has zero
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  837. [19:44:43] <koen> everyone has zero
  838. [19:44:48] <koen> well, except my desk
  839. [19:44:49] <woglinde> *g*
  840. [19:45:38] <ds2> A3?
  841. [19:46:03] <_av500_> am355x
  842. [19:46:55] <woglinde> hiho av500
  843. [19:47:07] <ds2> ah, not cortex-a3
  844. [19:47:58] * ghoti is now known as world
  845. [19:48:01] <koen> ds2: is that the debian one without neon and vfp?
  846. [19:48:05] * world is now known as ghoti
  847. [19:51:34] <ds2> thought debian has the iwmmx andn nfe? :)
  848. [19:53:06] <woglinde> ?
  849. [19:53:12] <koen> iwmmxt is newer than armv4t, so no
  850. [19:55:24] <ds2> ah right, xcale is v5
  851. [19:55:32] <koen> yes
  852. [19:56:12] <kapu> omgz
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  854. [19:57:36] <ds2> I wonder if TI has a jlink flavor
  855. [19:58:45] <koen> I bet TI has an abstraction layer for it
  856. [20:09:19] <koen> jkridner: NOTE: package linux-3.0.8-r109a: task do_patch: Started
  857. [20:09:25] <ds2> no, it is a vendor locked jtag thing made by segger
  858. [20:09:43] <ds2> very annoying when you can get a ftdi based board for like $30 or less
  859. [20:10:08] <koen> flyswatter2 was free at ELC-E ;)
  860. [20:10:15] <kapu> hmmm
  861. [20:10:21] <mranostay> koen: yeah saw the photo
  862. [20:10:28] <woglinde> yeah
  863. [20:10:38] <woglinde> only some wiki hacking
  864. [20:10:41] <mranostay> free stuff is always nice
  865. [20:11:13] <koen> yes
  866. [20:11:23] * koen also has a few extra baconboards now
  867. [20:11:25] <kapu> I have flyswatter1 lying around useless
  868. [20:11:38] <ds2> hehe
  869. [20:11:45] <koen> av500 incited the mob to shout "bacon! bacon! bacon!"
  870. [20:11:59] <ds2> engineer things right and avoid having to deal with debuggers
  871. [20:12:18] <kapu> just waiting some details emerge how to debug boner using JTAG
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  873. [20:12:50] <woglinde> haha
  874. [20:12:52] <woglinde> https://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/kay/libabc.git;a=blob_plain;f=README
  875. [20:12:55] <ds2> what are you doing that needs JTAG debugging?
  876. [20:13:00] <woglinde> lennard strikes again
  877. [20:13:25] <kapu> ds2: boot loader, if its possible
  878. [20:13:42] <ds2> writing a new one?
  879. [20:13:54] <kapu> possibly maybe
  880. [20:15:03] <ds2> should be doable w/o jtag
  881. [20:15:32] <kapu> who wants to do that? load some binaries to SD card and cycle between PC and the board?
  882. [20:15:46] <kapu> drivers one crazy
  883. [20:23:07] <kapu> "some guy" said here, FT2232 on beaglebone is xds100v2 compatible (Now I'm going to google what is this xds100v2...)
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  885. [20:29:13] <mru> build a dual-port sd card
  886. [20:32:45] <ds2> electrically, they make low density versions of dual port flash
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  903. [20:46:15] <xxiao> angstrom does not even have read-edid, normally it sits beside i2c-tools
  904. [20:46:19] <koen> angstrom has whatever oe-core + meta-oe has
  905. [20:46:19] <koen> so read-edid missing it not due to angstrom
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  909. [20:50:36] <ds2> heheh
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  911. [20:51:02] <ds2> meta-betteridiot is needed
  912. [20:51:02] <ds2> ;)
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  914. [20:52:43] <koen> $ dpkg-deb -c ipk/armv7a/i2c-tools_3.0.3-r0_armv7a.ipk | grep edid
  915. [20:52:44] <koen> -rwxr-xr-x root/root 6104 2011-10-24 21:19 ./usr/bin/decode-edid
  916. [20:52:56] <koen> i2c-tools has decode-edid buitin
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  923. [21:03:36] <ynezz> hm, you guys are nuts, producing new boards and stuff, but the weekend in 2011 still does have just 48 hours :(
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  925. [21:03:38] <xxiao> koen: yes i have decode-edid, parse-edid, no get-edid due to its x86 dependency, the bb should disable that build if it's cross-compiling
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  928. [21:04:09] <xxiao> anyway i will just copy parse-edid for now, probably no need for the get-edid
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  933. [21:20:23] <jayabharath> Has anyone tried Linux Kernel 3.1 on BeagleBoard-xM ?? Any known issues or does it boot and work fine????
  934. [21:20:41] * jayabharath does not have a beagle-xm but needs to answer a question to a customer??? plz advice
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  936. [21:22:22] <xxiao> jayabharath: unless the board is officially supported by the kernel, then you will need port some patches to 3.1 i think
  937. [21:22:48] <jkridner> xxiao: it is, under omap2plus_defconfig.
  938. [21:22:58] <jayabharath> xxiao: Board support should be there..
  939. [21:23:27] <jayabharath> jkridner: Any idea whether 3.1 works on latest -xM hardware?
  940. [21:23:48] * jayabharath finds that http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard#Linux_kernel needs an update to kernel 3.x and beyond
  941. [21:23:48] <xxiao> i probably should give it shot, if i have time, sigh
  942. [21:23:56] <mru> jayabharath: 3.0 works fine at least
  943. [21:24:00] * xxiao did not use xm for a long while, it's collecting dust
  944. [21:24:05] <jayabharath> mru: I see
  945. [21:24:09] <mru> I assume 3.1 will work too
  946. [21:24:14] * koen is running 3.0.8 on his xm
  947. [21:24:40] <joelagnel> Isn't 3.1 what meta-ti pulls today for MACHINE=beagleboard ?
  948. [21:25:00] <koen> no
  949. [21:25:05] <koen> 3.0.7 today
  950. [21:25:08] <koen> and 3.0.8 tomorrow
  951. [21:25:28] <joelagnel> oh yeah, k cool
  952. [21:25:59] <joelagnel> jayabharath, I guess the answer is try and see then :P
  953. [21:26:15] <jayabharath> joelagnel: he he.. I wish I had the HW ;)
  954. [21:26:24] <xxiao> is there any web-based UI for openembedded in general?
  955. [21:26:35] <xxiao> not something PDA/gnome/x11 window
  956. [21:26:55] <koen> xxiao: openembedded is a buildsystem
  957. [21:27:13] <koen> if you want a webui for it, narcissus is the closest thing
  958. [21:27:21] <xxiao> openwrt has luci/x-wrt/dd-wrt/netshe/gargolye...
  959. [21:27:40] <xxiao> forgot one more, tomato
  960. [21:27:57] <xxiao> narcissus is a build UI?
  961. [21:28:13] <mru> in a manner of speaking
  962. [21:28:22] <mru> it builds a system from pre-built packages
  963. [21:28:22] <xxiao> koen: i'm thinking porting a powerpc-luci to openembedded, but no webui found yet
  964. [21:28:41] <xxiao> and...openwrt's webui is tied to uci, not portble per se
  965. [21:30:04] <xxiao> probably it's a bad idea, OE for portables/multi-media devices. openwrt for network, period
  966. [21:31:01] <jayabharath> thx guys
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  981. [21:56:12] <mikey_w> Is this channel going to cover beaglebone developments?
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  983. [21:57:44] <joelagnel> mikey_w, sure
  984. [21:59:16] <mikey_w> Fun.
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  1001. [22:50:19] <nemik> hmm porting openWRT for the beaglebone would be pretty awesome
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  1005. [23:10:33] <woglinde> why?
  1006. [23:10:46] <woglinde> wrt has to few packages
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